I would suggest not to have anything drone related on your mobile devices, keep them on a paper copy in your flight bag, as once you have handed your device to the officer you have given him permission to search that device, so always keep your mobile device to yourself, as it's surprising how much information people have on them that the police are not privy to. One other thing if the officer is aggressive in any way or form ask them if it is a consensual conversation, if you feel it's not then you do not have to speak to them, as anything you say can and will be used against you, if he asks to see operating number and pilots licence do show them but not from your device, my motto is with handling police is say nothing, fear nothing. So the least said the least trouble for yourself. Unless they can categorically say you have broken any laws regarding drone flight keep quiet and let your solicitor do the talking not you even if you feel you have to tell your side of the story DON'T.. and if you are arrested don't rely on their duty solicitors as they work for them. PS You are not required to incriminate yourself whatsoever, so the less said, the job of investigation is down to them as your not obligated to do it for them.
Hey Jane. Thanks for taking the time to comment. I do actually use a second phone and tablet for the drone but mainly to keep the cache clear and so urgent calls can still reach me. It is a great point about having it clear of other information though. Thanks.
Have held a PfCO since early 2015. So have lots of experience being questioned by police and security officers whilst flying legally. Never had any issues after talking to them and showing respect. One situation led me to work closely with South Yorkshire Police which was very rewarding to know I could help to educate officers.
Hey Sky Captain Aerial Imaging! Thanks for taking the time to share your experience on this subject, I really appreciate it. The comments sections of videos like this are just as important as the content as hobbyists will read through and learn from other experiences etc.
Thanks Sean, useful. I have put together a small folder with my flyer/operator ID's, drone code and some CAA CAPS (2003-2008/2012). Since passing my A2 CofC, I have also purchased a card from Drone User mag, which is a credit card sized copy of my cert. Stay safe and keep up the great work.
Excellent Steve Cooke! That is almost exactly what I have with me when flying. It will possibly confuse some officers/public but it shows we are organised and legal!
Hey Big Matt! Great to see you sir! Yes, it seems a lot police are more interested in the tech! But similar to the police who pull over supercars to have a look! 😂😂. Hope you are well.
Yeah police and government drones so they can spy on, control and harass you even more for not wearing 6 masks in your shower or social distancimg from your wife in bed or whatever. Half the reason they're pushing all these crazy new drone laws on civilians. They see their potential for control and want it for themselves, and don't want you impeding on it. Same as why they stripped you of all your firearms and weapons, effectively outlawing citizens right to self defense. Especially against them wjen they cross the line.
Only ever had one interaction with a police officer whilst flying. Didn't ask any questions regarding the law, was just interested in the drone itself and seemed pretty impressed with it.
That's awesome Urbexy! We like interested people in the hobby! Good to hear your experience of meeting police whilst flying, thank you for taking the time to share!
Thanks for this. Legal drone flying brings so much more to photography and creators. Like others here, when we're actually doing nothing wrong, I agree that some people are hostile to cameras and drones, thinking they know it all and more than the CAA does. 'Karens' and 'Herberts'. Speaking (writing?) as a very 'senior' newbie to drones with a first purchase bargain Mavic Mini on the way, your videos are really useful. Apparently I'll have to do courses and a Flying ID or something, and I'll get it all done asap before flying. Also apparently, the Mavic Mini may be less restricted than others which might provide a bit more freedom. Even so, it's probably best to stay far away from humans, built-up areas, and homes.
You only need ops lic £9 yearly, Read up on drone flying rules stay safe, If you want a flyers ID take test score over 30 out of 40 No charge valid for 5 yes.
Thankyou for keeping us U.S flyers in mind when making these videos as it causes confusion when UK flyers don’t specify what regulations they are talking about.
Well done Sean 👍👍I’ve had a few encounters with the police. One cop actually left wanting to buy a drone. Like you said, every situation is different so you must wait for the police officers initial statement before speaking. How you approach the conversation will make a difference in the outcome.
Lack of knowledge by the police is obviously a problem. I realise drones are certainly not going to be top of their list of priorities. Maybe if they had a drone liaison officer or similar many situations could be avoided. Great channel by the way!!!
Years ago, some friends and I used to kite buggy on an out-of-town council owned playing field. We were often visited by a council employee in a van threatening us to leave or he'd call the Police. Knowing we were doing nothing wrong, we asked him to call them. Two officers duly arrived and asked us two questions: 1. Did we pay council tax? Yes. 2. Are we doing any damage? No. That ascertained, the Police said as council tax payers doing no damage or harm to anyone, we were free to carry on. Not before we got a pic of uniformed Police sat in kite buggies :-) Unfortunately, the council won in the end by eventually planting random goalposts and trees all over the field to keep us out and make the land useless.
Hey John! Important question but hobbyists in the UK are not obliged under law to know who owns the land. They are advised under the drone code to check for signs stating byelaws etc. Thanks for taking the time to comment, I really appreciate it!
Most police forces in the UK either have a drone unit or work with drone pilots, so the levels of knowledge by ordinary officers are improving. Making the situation safe finding out what the officer (or a member of the public) thinks you are doing wrong and addressing that in a non-confrontational way is the best way to avoid wasting everyone’s time. YT is full of people proving points with the police, it’s never a positive experience. It is however a great way to get anti- drone bylaws passed so the next time you fly there you will be in trouble. 😖
Well said Steve Fuller! We are working with one of drone units to bring an interview to the channel soon. As you state, they are helping to improve knowledge within the forces as a whole. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and experience!
Bravo Sir, you handled the situation very professionally and in a calm manner. The offers is like " this is pretty good, I should get one of these myself" lol
Plenty of them are just regular guys trying to do their jobs but just as many are aggro wankers out to pick a fight with someone. My last formal altercation with the police was 7 years or so when a pair of coppers jumped out at me from nowhere shining torches in my face and aggressively asking “WHO WERE YOU JUST TALKING TO?” This made no sense because I was on my own literally just stepping into the entrance of a park from a main road, trying to put an empty packet of crisps in a bin, not longer after sunset. They still insisted that there was someone hiding near me. Who was the last person you were talking to? “My mate Fionbharr”. And where is he now? “Northern Ireland”. Don’t be giving me any lip, boy. Do you want to come down the station? For fuck’s sake, you just asked me who I was most recently speaking to and that was my mate on the phone in Belfast, I’m trying to dispose of a packet of crisps and I’ve just come back from the pharmacy with gut medication (which I showed them) and I really want to go home. Are we done yet? They managed to drag this out to 25 minutes including the whole PNC check, and forensically searching the bin wearing white gloves, and determining that there was in fact a recently deposited pack of ready salted Walkers Crisps. They were absolutely desperate to find an excuse to search me for drugs of some kind, but as I pointed out to them they had no probable cause (and we got the “we can do this the hard way if you think you’re clever” chat), and basically unless you’re detaining me I’m going home to do a massive poo. On leaving I briefly stopped just to ask what was the reason they were going to put on their form and they said “suspicious use of a bin”, so I said does that mean you are formally advising me not to use bins after dark because it’s “suspicious” and sufficient grounds for a stop&search? And after brief pause they said “yes”. So apparently that’s official advice from Hampshire police force. Don’t dispose of rubbish at night or we’ll stop you to ask asinine questions and threaten you for half an hour. Granted most of them aren’t like that, but plenty are. I don’t suppose looking vaguely foreign does me any favours.
Quite possibly the best video you have produced Sean - thanks. Good practice is to wear a bodycam yourself if flying alone. I've been threatened to be shot with a shotgun by a lunatic local when flying within an FRZ - with full Airport Tower permission. The Police, typically have absolutely no idea what the rules are - and really don't like being filmed, especially live streamed. However, if you do attend a protest environment and are positive you can fly there - then always seek out the Inspector on the ground and 'inform' them where you will be flying, and what you will and won't be doing with the drone. Chances are you won't be bothered at all after that, well - most of the time anyway.
Hey Phantom Video! Thank you so much for the kind words and for taking the time to comment and share your thoughts, it will help others too. Hope you are well.
brian forward Policeman, truncheon in hand, chased by a drone, back and forward with added farm animals and washing off the line is the storyboard for that scene!
Another really useful video . Having not yet been stopped but as I have a Mini2 can’t wait to try to explain that whilst the I have an operators ID that I don’t need a flyer ID even though I have both .
Hey Chris Kendall! Thanks for taking the time to comment, I really appreciate it! Yes, the need for Operator ID and not Flyer ID creates a little confusion although I wonder if most officers will accept the 'registration' number on the drone and be happy. It will be interesting to hear the feedback from people who are stopped and checked this year.
@@Geeksvana police officer here. After talking with a drone hobbyist I now have my own (Mini 2). Laws are slightly confusing at first but soon make sense. Most police won't know the law, but they should be ablecto check easily enough and most forces even have their own drone teams. Excellent kit for policing. Be patient and polite with police and they should be patient and polite with you.
@@barrieshepherd7694 It shouldn't be too suorising. There are tens of thousands of laws, regulations and offences in the UK. Police can only be trained in a finite amount, usually those that are most common or which are currentky topical. They will have additional knowledge based on their specialism. Drones are not something that the average police officer will encounter that often and is not something routinely trained. Most forces have a drone team - who certainly will know the law - who can be asked for advice if required, or it can be looked up on their data pads.
@@pinkyperky3506 Your point has some merit BUT almost all police forces have issued "Drone Policy" documents and given the active press I would have expected that officers would at least have been pointed to reading that policy document. So while not knowing chapter and verse of UK Drone Law/Regulations, they should at least recognise that there is a policy and that it is not a case of 'making it up as they go along' .
thank you we are getting a drone for you tube can you tell me Iam getting dji2 to learn how to use first question(.1) what phone is best to use with the dji ( 2." i have a google 7a
Avoiding arrest is always best. Unfortunately, many police "interactions" don't go that way. Prepare for arrest. Prepare to have everything you brought with you taken into evidence. Prepare to be questioned by someone trained to interrogate you with the intention of charging you with...er...something. Prepare to be held for an uncomfortable amount of time while being made uncertain if anyone is aware of your location while in custody. Prepare to be charged with...er...something. Prepare to be left wondering if you will ever see your expensive drone and all your other neat and expensive gear that the police took from you ever again. Prepare to have to pay an attorney to defend you in local district court. Prepare to get no sympathy from any other working adult that you will encounter along this magical journey. Ah, the drone experience...
Hey John of Drones! Well said. Unfortunately, no amount of preparation will avoid arrest if the officer has that in mind. Recent events show that as you state, they will simply pick a charge, any charge.
@@Geeksvana I'm someone who has both security and civil disobedience training as well. My point above is droners should give a thought not to bring anything in your kit or your car that may further complicate a situation that has devolved into an arrest. Many of my commenters kid me for wearing a Hi-Ref vest and lanyard with my ID when I fly in public. I can attest that it avoids many confrontations as well as nosey annoyances.
Absolutely! I strongly believe that. We are about to add a jacket to our merch to try and get more UK flyers to do the same. Excellent advice, thank you!
Totally with you on that. As I said somewhere up the thread, my last serious interaction with the police was where they jumped out at me from nowhere in a park, and spent half an hour absolutely desperately trying to find a way they could arrest me for putting a packet of crisps in the bin. I know my rights and that I don’t even have to give them any of my details if they have no probable cause but this was met with all the usual “want to spend the night in the station sonny, don’t you lie to us” threats, etc. i eventually left free but profoundly unsettled by the experience for some time. It was amazing the lengths they went to to try to find an excuse to fully search me for drugs (after the PNC guys told them “no trace” on the radio), including forensically examining a dustbin, and generally wasting mine and their own time for half an hour, while I was simply trying to get home and take the medication I’d just bought for my gut problems. They saw me walk into the park, followed me in, and yet seemed obsessed with an imaginary person only they could see who had “just run away”. I wish I never had to say this but yes, I’d really recommend filming them too, and don’t use your primary phone as controller.
People have been flying rc aircraft for years and they were a great deal less accurate to fly than modern drones. Strange that these regulations only come into force when an aircraft has a camera attached to it! 🤔
Try and keep away from them wherever possible. Like Del Boy once said; “There’s never a copper about when you need one, but they’re always there when you don’t need em!”
@@Geeksvana You’re welcome. Check my videos out and subscribe. I got my drone at the end of September 2020. The first upload was from 01/Oct/2020, and I carelessly called my drone a JDI Mavia Air 2!
I just got a Dji mini 2 and alredy registered as operator but despite I dont need a flyer ID for this kind of drone also I did the test on line for flyer A1/A3 and print it out and place a copy of it in my mini2 bag just to be 200% on the side of the law, also I was thinking to print the information where it say where and when you can fly a drone under 250 gr. By the way I did my firts fly today but it was a bit windy so I made I few footage with the cam on 4K then stop and wait for another day with better weather coonditions.
Thanks for sharing your routine and experience with us Jorge! I really appreciate it. Great idea to wait for better conditions, the wind can really impact the Mini 2.
Yeah bedford council said i cannot fly "in, above, through" any council land. They think they have authority over the airspace above their land.. Then they published a document saying we could fly in parks with CAA registration, I emailed them, and they responded back that they don't allow anyone to fly drones in parks. God help us.
Hey Matt! Yes, local authorities need to assess their publicly published rules in the light of CAP 722C. They should understand they do not control the airspace! Thanks for taking the time to comment, I really appreciate it!
I can not run the risk of getting arrested by the police as I have one of those faces that look guilty even when I haven't done anything. I get nervous and say inappropriate things and joke about and always seem to unintentionally offend. I have had my Mavic Mini since December but it hasn't been outside yet due to lack of places to fly locally and the Coronavirus lock down but the mere thought of being challenged by a police officer who may not know the rules is enough to keep the drone in the box. I have registered as operator and flyer and have insurance but I am afraid that the CAA along with local councils have killed all the pleasure of drone flying for me and so I will now offer my Mavic Mini with fly more combo on eBay auction starting at 99p.
Hey G Wal! That's a real shame sir! Where are you located? If in the South East you are welcome to come fly at our club field to gain confidence etc. I know what you mean about making inappropriate jokes and offending. I have had to curtail what I see as humour a lot in recent years!
Hey Andrew! Thanks for the kind feedback. That is actually a good friend of mine who is an actor. He often appears on many UK shows as a paramedic or police officer and they tend to own their own uniforms.
As an ex officer listen to this gent stay in control calmly State your case nothing to hide nothing to fear,all else fails run for it “last part is a joke” 👍
thank you for the informative video. I will be traveling soon to the UK. Need some advice? Do I need some documentation? I will be bringing my Protek35 FPV drone and a 1s tiny whoop together with the battery and accessories. Thank you in advance.
Thanks, for the video! I might also suggest that you wear a brightly colored vest that has "Licensed Drone Pilot. Please, do not disturb" printed on it. And, if you have authorization to operate in that air space, be prepared to provide that documentation, along with your license and drone registration information. You might also show the officer your flight and maintenance logs to establish that you are experienced and knowledgeable about the laws concerning drones.
This is brilliant. Very informative. Can I ask you I'm a hobbiest and want to fly the mavic mini 2 what will I need to do? Also will I need a flyer ID? I find the new rules confusing maybe it's just me.
Ops lic only £9 yearly, If you want to take test score over 30 out of 40 valid for 5 yes no charge, I scored 33 out of 40 and only read part of manual the main parts good luck.
@@tonyrobinson362 I see, thanks so much, not bad for 9 yearly, at least you know you can fly safe, better to be safe then sotty, thanks again, really appreciate it :)
Hey Borga! Thanks for taking the time to comment! I woild take it for sure. Just make sure you stick to the drone code and send it! I have flown there before myself and know many others who fly the Lake District regularly.
The simple fact of the matter is people, don't buy a drone. Don't read the rules, don't waste your money, and don't waste your time. The CAA change the rules to suit. And the costs of being a commercially competent pilot has soared beyond belief. Stick to greenbowls or crochet. Just make sure no one see's you do it.
I have witnessed operator launching drones next to a crowd of people , when a place away from people having been available a short distance away . I was shocked , new cruise ship Iona arriving at Southampton for first time , next to crowds of people at Hythe Marina. Kind of thinking . I spoke to the operator, he said he had permission. But permission or but he was flying a drone from a launch site within 50 m of people , many people.
Many parts of the current system are comical for example keeping or having your flying ID on you ...when unlike every single other "license" I pay and register for they do not even provide a printable and recognisable license ,having to go through smart phone to show officers you are entitled is a poorly thought out idea and those Police I have dealt with were not willing to accept it UNTIL they queried with another officer. Also the poor wording of the act makes many including Kelly Tolhurst MP (under secretary of state) that the rules do not apply to any sub 250g drone . I queried this through my MP when asking why it was illegal for me to fly a 25g whoop in my back garden FPV (without spotter) and received a letter in response stating that the regulations and registration apply to all drones between 250g and 20kg ,as this was a direct response to my query on sub 250g uav it is hard to take it as anything other than a statement that sub 250g are not covered by current regulations.. The change to EASA reg's are still due in the new year ,but without education of Police officers problems will still occur If you PM me I will send a copy of the ministerial response to my direct query .
Hey Evilroco! Thank you for taking the time to comment and for sharing that information. I would like to see the letter for sure! Feel free to email at sean@geeksvana.com. Thanks for sharing your experience.
@@Geeksvana I've sent a copy and will try and get copy of my query for you too . Thanks for aiding us all in navigating current and future regulations.
Great video. Just subscribed. Do you have any tips or techniques on how to deal with (self entitled) public individuals that think they know the law who approach you and tell you to stop?
Thanks for the kind feedback! We do actually have a video to help avoid confrontation that includes some free downloads to print, ready to handout to anyone who approaches - ruclips.net/video/AOw6h3CE9Z4/видео.html
I assume that cop was an actor! Also no offence but if I am flying my drone legally, safely and within the regulations, no police officer would make me pack up and leave.
Hi Geeksvana, i have a DJI Mini Mavic 1, 249g and i do have also the Operator ID and Flyer ID (i live in UK) as well as the licence to fly a A1 and A3 drones. If I stay away from "crowds" and 5km away from airport and respecting the 120m high, would I have problems with police while recording and flying at a park or a beach (not crowded)? Thanks so much for your videos, You are an inspiration for me!
Hey Phillip! Thank you sir! Really appreciate all your support. I would say I hope you aren't working too hard but I think I know the answer already!! 😂
Superior technology to remote ID is auto drone separation from other aircraft above 400feet , TFRs , restricted and controlled airspace. More legal freedoms to fly in clouds, fly as high as drone pilots want and beyond VLOS if the drone has auto return to home if the drone looses transmission contact with the controller
Hey MrStella1976! I definitely missed a couple of comedy moments 😂. One suggestion in the comments I liked was a 'Benny Hill' style chase at the end 🤣.
On a completely different matter could you confirm what the mavic air at 480g falls into on the new rules, is it C1? Would you need a Acofc to fly it as a hobbyist? Like the channel keep the good work up.
Hey Mick! We have a series of video coming up on the channel to explain this type of thing very soon! The Air 2 will be a legacy drone as it does not have a CE classification. However, holders of an A2 CofC would be able to fly them in the A2 airspace for two years! Thanks for the comment, appreciate it!
Greetings from Cyprus! Great content Sean. Here in Cyprus the local Cyprus CAA insist on registration of your drone (free via an online portal), but they issue no registration number or even a confirmation email that you are actually registered. Considering that in December 31st 2020, Cyprus will have to comply with the new EASA regulations it will be interesting how compliance will be administered. I seriously doubt that any local police officer has any idea about the regulations. I attended a course here, and have an Open Category Recreational Flyer certification (which I always carry when flying), but have recently completed my A2 Certificate of Competency (CofC) with UAVHub in the UK to comply with the new EASA regulations. It will be interesting if the Cyprus CAA will recognise my UK A2 CofC certification when you new EASA regulations become law at the end of 2020. I doubt it actually, but we will see! Cheers
Hey David! Great to see you. Thanks for taking the time to comment and share your experience! Yes, it will be an interesting period next year to see which countries stick to the new EASA regs and which ones take time to roll out. We are hoping for an announcement from the CAA very soon which might be useful in terms of using a UK A2 cert in the EU. Watch this space!
Absolutely! With covid and Brexit the drone regs across the EU are in flux. Hopefully we will get some clarity before the end of the year. Then we can unleash the power of the Mini!!
pretty sure there are no "Laws" even in the UK about flying model airplanes with a Pulsejet. which means if there are no regulations, you cant break them by doing it
I have never had an officer approach me, (tempting fate here) but have had a few just go past. I would like to think staying calm would be easy but I'm sure in practice its a bit more of a panic :D
Hye Mia! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts! The first time I was approached I did panic a bit. My flight was perfectly legal but it still threw me. I ended up having the conversation with the officer with the drone hovering, which I regret now.
Maybe its just the part of the uk I stay in, but if you say "give me a minute" they drag you into the back of the van the procede to kick you in the head to your severe injury.
Having to bring a copy of the drone regulations to teach the law to the police, fancy that. It's utterly ridiculous that we have to prove our innocence. I will be carrying a copy of the regulations in case any halfwit wants to enforce laws they know nothing about. They have refused to respond when I ask if I'm being detained. The police are completely unreasonable. Good video I've been thinking about this scenario a lot.
Hey John Hickson! Thank you for taking the time to comment and welcome to the hobby! You can complete the DMARES (Drone and Model Aircraft Registration and Education Scheme) here: register-drones.caa.co.uk/ This will give you the Flyer ID and Operator ID required.
I was flying my drone at an Event last night I also saw videos from the event from other people flying to is there ever any chance they could crash? notice more in the sky at the same time latley
So fly below the radar? Is that contributing to puplic education or just adding to the problem. How would you raise awareness, which is the only way to find a long term resolution.
Thankfully I live in the UK where even if your house is getting broken into a burgled. The police *might* show up… in 3 days time. So a drone flyer would have got their footage and be long gone. Even if they could work out where you were flying from
Very interesting and helpful video, thank you! Please could i get your thoughts about a nearby private (farm) airstrip, without an ATZ of course and no manned control whatsoever, it also doesn't show on NATS Drone Assist app, would it be legal for me to fly near that (as i want to video an area of interest nearby)? Thanks in advance. P.S I also have an air band scanner which would allow me to hear any radio calls made by nearby pilots.
Hey Simon! Thanks for taking the time to comment and for your kind words, much appreciated! In terms of airfields, there is a map available to show each field's individual FRZ, which you can access via this link: dronesafe.uk/restrictions/. If it does not show on there, I would suggest approaching either the CAA drone team on 0330 022 1908 or the airfield operator. As each field is unique it is hard to advise more specifically. Which field is it? Feel free to email me the details if not comfortable placing it in a public comment, (sean@geeksvana.com).
Great video and information Sean as always sean can you tell me is ok to keep a body camera running when being talked to by the police and of course making them aware that it is recording? Just for my safety and there’s to in case you end with the scenario he said I said cheers
Hey Rodpiker! Great to see you, thanks for the kind words! Yes, in the UK it is fine to record the police. In fact some people make very popular RUclips channels doing just that! I tend to find they are even more happy if you tell them it was already running. Hope this helps.
Did the police officer have a flyer ID, if not he was in contravention of the drone code, which states that "you must pass the CAA's official theory test to get a flyer ID before flying a drone or model aircraft covered by the regulations" 😉 Great video
Hey Martin Reading! Thank you for the kind feedback! I really appreciate it! Chris, (police actor), was a good sport for the filming of this and we had a lot of fun. Reminds me of more socially mixing times!
@@Geeksvana , yeah hopefully more sociable times will return, I've only just started flying with a mini 2, other hobbies include cycling and haven't ridden with my cycling buddies since about may last year
Officially, you can tell them to "pack sand" unless they accuse you of a crime. no need to show them any licences, or registrations, or even answer any questions
That's not quite the situation for drone flight. The 2021 Unmanned Traffic Act has given police more powers, including to demand your drone is landed and to gain your Op ID.
That's a timely video. I have a question... assuming that policeman was having a try of your Mavic Mini, were there any attachments taking it's take-off mass to 250 grams or more, and if so, had he a registered Flyer ID? If not, this would be a video for CrimeBodge (not that I subscribe to that channel, Officer). Entrapment???
Hey Lindsay Heyes! That would be an interesting one. Perhaps we could setup a roadside sign, 'free drone flights for police officers`. The policeman in the video was an actor, his bio is in description. We actually decided not to fly the drone whilst filming him for safety reasons. I love the idea though! Thanks for taking the time to comment, I really appreciate it!
@@Geeksvana There's a lot on RUclips about "Oi, get off moi land" and so on, so I've been tracking down farmers where I can and asking their permission - in case I have to leave a public right of way in some emergency, or to get VLOS for a desired shot. I give my contact details and tell them when I will be around, and nobody has objected in any way. Some say "call me", others say "any time". Today, the news is of crime in the countryside. While out with my drone in the last month, I have come across poachers, wild campers (why were they not using the public access land 50 metres away?) and unauthorised detectorists (well, thieves). It's not surprising that any unfamiliar activity can be a trigger for a farmer to call the police or at least want to check a flyer out. Your recommended approach is spot on for them too. We all think, when in wilderness, that we are the only ones to be there. But filming in a beauty spot is like gunning my motorbike on a quiet road... I may not encounter any other vehicle for miles, but the guy who tends his garden by those bends where I love to get the pegs down can hear the next biker coming before I am out of sight, and might have several hundred bikes roar past every Sunday. Let's just be considerate, and ambassadors for drone flight. It costs nothing. Like the idea of the hi-viz flyers vest, BTW. XXL for me.
Extremely well said! Thank you! The comments sections of my videos are just as informative as the videos themselves because of viewers like you. Such an awesome community!
Hey Edward! Thanks for the kind feedback, I really appreciate it! Are you in the UK? If so, I woild wholeheartedly recommend the Drone Assist app. If you search on Geeksvana channel there is a video showing you how to use it and find places to fly. Hope this helps.
@@Geeksvana thank you for your response, I am in the UK and have been looking for an app like this for a while 😃 I have a question relating to quite a specific issue: What should you do/aren’t required to do when confronted by private security near racecourses (or on private land) I’ve recently had an experience of it and wasn’t sure of my rights. Once again, any advice is greatly appreciated for a newbie pilot
Hey Edward, you are welcome. Very hard for me to comment on individual circumstances as it depends on so many factors and any answer would be filled with a million caveats!
Can I ask a question about the altitude please: If I'm in, say the lake district on a deserted hill, at sunrise or sunset, at a height of 500m, and I want to capture the vista in front me on a photo or a video, can I use a drone such as a DJI 2Pro or a Parrot Anafi? Or is that case that by already being at 500m I'm above the flight ceiling anyway?
Hey Gurinder Punn! Thanks for taking the time to comment. You must keep your drone within 400ft of the closest surface of the earth. So if you are stood on a 500m mountain then you can fly 400ft up from where you are stood. However, if there is undulating surface you must adjust the drone. There is an excellent graphic to describe this on the CAA UK drone registration website. Hope this helps.
Just a quick comment. For some reason "all" of the audio on your videos is different than most others. I listen through headphones and it's like there is a massive increase in bass and an equal amount of reduction in the treble. It's very difficult to hear what you're saying. I have jumped back and forth between your videos and many others to make sure that I'm not complaining about something that I should adjust on my devices. I have found that you videos just sound like they're muffled by bass. If I'm the only one, then I'm sorry for wasting your time here. I do enjoy your content and knowledge on drones, and I'm obviously not in the minority there! Thank you.
Hey domelite! Thank you so much for taking the time to reach out. Audio was always an issue for me, mainly due to lack of knowledge lol. More recently, I think it has improved a lot because I try to get it working at source rather than needing treating. I have just replaced all the mics we use, so fingers crossed it improves a lot 🤞. Again, appreciate you reaching out. This kind of feedback is very important to me.
As a matter of curiosity, is there any FAA - CAA/UK reciprocity for traveling drone flyers/photographers/videographers, or is life going to be complicated, and are we going to be limited to sub-250 gram drones when finally able to travel in a post C-19 World ?
Hi Leonard Oglesby! Thanks for taking the time to comment, I really appreciate it! Any travelling drone flyer would need to register and pass relevant tests between the UKCAA and FAA. Although once the new EASA regulations are in place over the EU, flyers on the continent will be able to fly across border under the same rules and registration!
@@Geeksvana I'm very well Sean, I hope you are too! I took advantage of the Geeksvana 20% discount at UAVHub and scored 100% just like you. Keep up the good work!
This video also works as a way to handle the police coming upto you in pretty much any situation, not just drone flying
Tip 6) Practice saying, "You'll never take me alive, copper!"
Hey matt smith! An essential tip!! Thanks for taking the time to comment, I really appreciate it!
@@Geeksvana Obviously tongue in cheek!
Watched a few of your vids now. Informative, thanks.
Thank you!
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Whahahahahaaaa!
I would suggest not to have anything drone related on your mobile devices, keep them on a paper copy in your flight bag, as once you have handed your device to the officer you have given him permission to search that device, so always keep your mobile device to yourself, as it's surprising how much information people have on them that the police are not privy to.
One other thing if the officer is aggressive in any way or form ask them if it is a consensual conversation, if you feel it's not then you do not have to speak to them, as anything you say can and will be used against you, if he asks to see operating number and pilots licence do show them but not from your device, my motto is with handling police is say nothing, fear nothing. So the least said the least trouble for yourself.
Unless they can categorically say you have broken any laws regarding drone flight keep quiet and let your solicitor do the talking not you even if you feel you have to tell your side of the story DON'T.. and if you are arrested don't rely on their duty solicitors as they work for them.
PS You are not required to incriminate yourself whatsoever, so the less said, the job of investigation is down to them as your not obligated to do it for them.
Hey Jane. Thanks for taking the time to comment. I do actually use a second phone and tablet for the drone but mainly to keep the cache clear and so urgent calls can still reach me. It is a great point about having it clear of other information though. Thanks.
I’ve been thinking of getting an iPad mini for this precise reason.
For this reason I started using a separate mobile device only for drone control
Have held a PfCO since early 2015. So have lots of experience being questioned by police and security officers whilst flying legally. Never had any issues after talking to them and showing respect. One situation led me to work closely with South Yorkshire Police which was very rewarding to know I could help to educate officers.
Hey Sky Captain Aerial Imaging! Thanks for taking the time to share your experience on this subject, I really appreciate it. The comments sections of videos like this are just as important as the content as hobbyists will read through and learn from other experiences etc.
Thanks Sean, useful. I have put together a small folder with my flyer/operator ID's, drone code and some CAA CAPS (2003-2008/2012). Since passing my A2 CofC, I have also purchased a card from Drone User mag, which is a credit card sized copy of my cert. Stay safe and keep up the great work.
Excellent Steve Cooke! That is almost exactly what I have with me when flying. It will possibly confuse some officers/public but it shows we are organised and legal!
Most cops after an interaction say that same thing that they want to get a drone.
Hey Big Matt! Great to see you sir! Yes, it seems a lot police are more interested in the tech! But similar to the police who pull over supercars to have a look! 😂😂. Hope you are well.
Yeah police and government drones so they can spy on, control and harass you even more for not wearing 6 masks in your shower or social distancimg from your wife in bed or whatever.
Half the reason they're pushing all these crazy new drone laws on civilians.
They see their potential for control and want it for themselves, and don't want you impeding on it.
Same as why they stripped you of all your firearms and weapons, effectively outlawing citizens right to self defense. Especially against them wjen they cross the line.
Only ever had one interaction with a police officer whilst flying. Didn't ask any questions regarding the law, was just interested in the drone itself and seemed pretty impressed with it.
That's awesome Urbexy! We like interested people in the hobby! Good to hear your experience of meeting police whilst flying, thank you for taking the time to share!
Thank you, very useful. I think that the best rule it can be "don't stay in the middle of the field or on the road when flying..."
Hey Jsi Dev! Thanks for your kind feedback, I really appreciate it!
Thanks for this. Legal drone flying brings so much more to photography and creators. Like others here, when we're actually doing nothing wrong, I agree that some people are hostile to cameras and drones, thinking they know it all and more than the CAA does. 'Karens' and 'Herberts'. Speaking (writing?) as a very 'senior' newbie to drones with a first purchase bargain Mavic Mini on the way, your videos are really useful. Apparently I'll have to do courses and a Flying ID or something, and I'll get it all done asap before flying. Also apparently, the Mavic Mini may be less restricted than others which might provide a bit more freedom. Even so, it's probably best to stay far away from humans, built-up areas, and homes.
You only need ops lic £9 yearly, Read up on drone flying rules stay safe, If you want a flyers ID take test score over 30 out of 40 No charge valid for 5 yes.
@@tonyrobinson362 Thanks Tony 👍
Thankyou for keeping us U.S flyers in mind when making these videos as it causes confusion when UK flyers don’t specify what regulations they are talking about.
Well done Sean 👍👍I’ve had a few encounters with the police. One cop actually left wanting to buy a drone. Like you said, every situation is different so you must wait for the police officers initial statement before speaking. How you approach the conversation will make a difference in the outcome.
Hey CaptureLifeConnection! Great to see you! Very well said sir! Approach is key! Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Lack of knowledge by the police is obviously a problem. I realise drones are certainly not going to be top of their list of priorities.
Maybe if they had a drone liaison officer or similar many situations could be avoided.
Great channel by the way!!!
Years ago, some friends and I used to kite buggy on an out-of-town council owned playing field. We were often visited by a council employee in a van threatening us to leave or he'd call the Police. Knowing we were doing nothing wrong, we asked him to call them. Two officers duly arrived and asked us two questions: 1. Did we pay council tax? Yes. 2. Are we doing any damage? No. That ascertained, the Police said as council tax payers doing no damage or harm to anyone, we were free to carry on. Not before we got a pic of uniformed Police sat in kite buggies :-) Unfortunately, the council won in the end by eventually planting random goalposts and trees all over the field to keep us out and make the land useless.
5 great tips and a bonus. I feel prepared now. Thank you, Sean.
Hey Sunrise Water Media! Really great to see you! Hope you are keeping well. Thank you for the comment and support! Means a lot.
What about the most important question of “do you have the owners permission to fly from this land?
Hey John! Important question but hobbyists in the UK are not obliged under law to know who owns the land. They are advised under the drone code to check for signs stating byelaws etc. Thanks for taking the time to comment, I really appreciate it!
If it's public and got no restrictions like
by-laws you have the freedom to do so.
Most police forces in the UK either have a drone unit or work with drone pilots, so the levels of knowledge by ordinary officers are improving. Making the situation safe finding out what the officer (or a member of the public) thinks you are doing wrong and addressing that in a non-confrontational way is the best way to avoid wasting everyone’s time.
YT is full of people proving points with the police, it’s never a positive experience. It is however a great way to get anti- drone bylaws passed so the next time you fly there you will be in trouble. 😖
Now that is out, another great vid, informative and done with incomparable Geeksvana humour
Well said Steve Fuller! We are working with one of drone units to bring an interview to the channel soon. As you state, they are helping to improve knowledge within the forces as a whole. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and experience!
Thank you for the kind words!!
yeah I agree. Seeing way too many youtube "auditors" apparently deliberately trying to create confrontations with police. Absolute idiots.
Bravo Sir, you handled the situation very professionally and in a calm manner. The offers is like " this is pretty good, I should get one of these myself" lol
The police are ALWAYS “ Looking for an opportunity to make a point ‘
Tip number 6 .... ALWAYS film the police 👍🏽
Plenty of them are just regular guys trying to do their jobs but just as many are aggro wankers out to pick a fight with someone. My last formal altercation with the police was 7 years or so when a pair of coppers jumped out at me from nowhere shining torches in my face and aggressively asking “WHO WERE YOU JUST TALKING TO?” This made no sense because I was on my own literally just stepping into the entrance of a park from a main road, trying to put an empty packet of crisps in a bin, not longer after sunset. They still insisted that there was someone hiding near me. Who was the last person you were talking to? “My mate Fionbharr”. And where is he now? “Northern Ireland”. Don’t be giving me any lip, boy. Do you want to come down the station? For fuck’s sake, you just asked me who I was most recently speaking to and that was my mate on the phone in Belfast, I’m trying to dispose of a packet of crisps and I’ve just come back from the pharmacy with gut medication (which I showed them) and I really want to go home. Are we done yet? They managed to drag this out to 25 minutes including the whole PNC check, and forensically searching the bin wearing white gloves, and determining that there was in fact a recently deposited pack of ready salted Walkers Crisps. They were absolutely desperate to find an excuse to search me for drugs of some kind, but as I pointed out to them they had no probable cause (and we got the “we can do this the hard way if you think you’re clever” chat), and basically unless you’re detaining me I’m going home to do a massive poo.
On leaving I briefly stopped just to ask what was the reason they were going to put on their form and they said “suspicious use of a bin”, so I said does that mean you are formally advising me not to use bins after dark because it’s “suspicious” and sufficient grounds for a stop&search? And after brief pause they said “yes”. So apparently that’s official advice from Hampshire police force. Don’t dispose of rubbish at night or we’ll stop you to ask asinine questions and threaten you for half an hour.
Granted most of them aren’t like that, but plenty are. I don’t suppose looking vaguely foreign does me any favours.
Quite possibly the best video you have produced Sean - thanks.
Good practice is to wear a bodycam yourself if flying alone. I've been threatened to be shot with a shotgun by a lunatic local when flying within an FRZ - with full Airport Tower permission.
The Police, typically have absolutely no idea what the rules are - and really don't like being filmed, especially live streamed. However, if you do attend a protest environment and are positive you can fly there - then always seek out the Inspector on the ground and 'inform' them where you will be flying, and what you will and won't be doing with the drone.
Chances are you won't be bothered at all after that, well - most of the time anyway.
Hey Phantom Video! Thank you so much for the kind words and for taking the time to comment and share your thoughts, it will help others too. Hope you are well.
No police chase a BENY HILL CASE WOULD BE BRILLIANT
That would be hilarious! Great idea!
brian forward Policeman, truncheon in hand, chased by a drone, back and forward with added farm animals and washing off the line is the storyboard for that scene!
@@stevefuller2933 hahahahhahaha your imagination is as vivid as mine.... BRILLIANT
Thanks for the info again. Can only imagine this will be more than likely.
Thank you for the kind feedback Bert! It was a lot of fun to make and makes me miss the days of socially close filming!
Another really useful video . Having not yet been stopped but as I have a Mini2 can’t wait to try to explain that whilst the I have an operators ID that I don’t need a flyer ID even though I have both .
Hey Chris Kendall! Thanks for taking the time to comment, I really appreciate it! Yes, the need for Operator ID and not Flyer ID creates a little confusion although I wonder if most officers will accept the 'registration' number on the drone and be happy. It will be interesting to hear the feedback from people who are stopped and checked this year.
@@Geeksvana police officer here. After talking with a drone hobbyist I now have my own (Mini 2). Laws are slightly confusing at first but soon make sense. Most police won't know the law, but they should be ablecto check easily enough and most forces even have their own drone teams. Excellent kit for policing. Be patient and polite with police and they should be patient and polite with you.
@@pinkyperky3506 " Most police won't know the law, ...." coming from a police person this comment made me smile and confirmed my worst fears 😂
@@barrieshepherd7694 It shouldn't be too suorising. There are tens of thousands of laws, regulations and offences in the UK. Police can only be trained in a finite amount, usually those that are most common or which are currentky topical. They will have additional knowledge based on their specialism. Drones are not something that the average police officer will encounter that often and is not something routinely trained. Most forces have a drone team - who certainly will know the law - who can be asked for advice if required, or it can be looked up on their data pads.
@@pinkyperky3506 Your point has some merit BUT almost all police forces have issued "Drone Policy" documents and given the active press I would have expected that officers would at least have been pointed to reading that policy document. So while not knowing chapter and verse of UK Drone Law/Regulations, they should at least recognise that there is a policy and that it is not a case of 'making it up as they go along' .
My dyslexic brain read HOW TO GET ARRESTED FLYING YOUR DRONE 😂
Hey Whosthatguy! The thumbnail of me being fake arrested wouldn't have helped!! 😂. Thanks for the comment, appreciate it!
You more than likely will eventually flying a drone in the UK. So not a million miles away from the truth 👍
thank you we are getting a drone for you tube can you tell me Iam getting dji2 to learn how to use first question(.1) what phone is best to use with the dji ( 2." i have a google 7a
Avoiding arrest is always best. Unfortunately, many police "interactions" don't go that way. Prepare for arrest. Prepare to have everything you brought with you taken into evidence. Prepare to be questioned by someone trained to interrogate you with the intention of charging you with...er...something. Prepare to be held for an uncomfortable amount of time while being made uncertain if anyone is aware of your location while in custody. Prepare to be charged with...er...something. Prepare to be left wondering if you will ever see your expensive drone and all your other neat and expensive gear that the police took from you ever again. Prepare to have to pay an attorney to defend you in local district court. Prepare to get no sympathy from any other working adult that you will encounter along this magical journey. Ah, the drone experience...
Hey John of Drones! Well said. Unfortunately, no amount of preparation will avoid arrest if the officer has that in mind. Recent events show that as you state, they will simply pick a charge, any charge.
@@Geeksvana I'm someone who has both security and civil disobedience training as well. My point above is droners should give a thought not to bring anything in your kit or your car that may further complicate a situation that has devolved into an arrest.
Many of my commenters kid me for wearing a Hi-Ref vest and lanyard with my ID when I fly in public. I can attest that it avoids many confrontations as well as nosey annoyances.
Absolutely! I strongly believe that. We are about to add a jacket to our merch to try and get more UK flyers to do the same. Excellent advice, thank you!
Totally with you on that. As I said somewhere up the thread, my last serious interaction with the police was where they jumped out at me from nowhere in a park, and spent half an hour absolutely desperately trying to find a way they could arrest me for putting a packet of crisps in the bin. I know my rights and that I don’t even have to give them any of my details if they have no probable cause but this was met with all the usual “want to spend the night in the station sonny, don’t you lie to us” threats, etc. i eventually left free but profoundly unsettled by the experience for some time. It was amazing the lengths they went to to try to find an excuse to fully search me for drugs (after the PNC guys told them “no trace” on the radio), including forensically examining a dustbin, and generally wasting mine and their own time for half an hour, while I was simply trying to get home and take the medication I’d just bought for my gut problems. They saw me walk into the park, followed me in, and yet seemed obsessed with an imaginary person only they could see who had “just run away”. I wish I never had to say this but yes, I’d really recommend filming them too, and don’t use your primary phone as controller.
@@dogstar7 Although the majority of my work will be rural, I’m tempted to get a high-vis jacket, just to ward off eejits, like you suggest.
People have been flying rc aircraft for years and they were a great deal less accurate to fly than modern drones. Strange that these regulations only come into force when an aircraft has a camera attached to it! 🤔
Hey Clive Stephenson! Thanks for taking the time to comment! Yes indeed! Also when their was an opportunity to monetise the sub 400ft airspace!
Try and keep away from them wherever possible. Like Del Boy once said; “There’s never a copper about when you need one, but they’re always there when you don’t need em!”
Hey Nigel! Thanks for taking the time to comment, that should be the next tip!
@@Geeksvana You’re welcome. Check my videos out and subscribe. I got my drone at the end of September 2020. The first upload was from 01/Oct/2020, and I carelessly called my drone a JDI Mavia Air 2!
I just got a Dji mini 2 and alredy registered as operator but despite I dont need a flyer ID for this kind of drone also I did the test on line for flyer A1/A3 and print it out and place a copy of it in my mini2 bag
just to be 200% on the side of the law, also I was thinking to print the information where it say where and when you can fly a drone under 250 gr.
By the way I did my firts fly today but it was a bit windy so I made I few footage with the cam on 4K then stop and wait for another day with better weather coonditions.
Thanks for sharing your routine and experience with us Jorge! I really appreciate it. Great idea to wait for better conditions, the wind can really impact the Mini 2.
Yeah bedford council said i cannot fly "in, above, through" any council land. They think they have authority over the airspace above their land.. Then they published a document saying we could fly in parks with CAA registration, I emailed them, and they responded back that they don't allow anyone to fly drones in parks. God help us.
Hey Matt! Yes, local authorities need to assess their publicly published rules in the light of CAP 722C. They should understand they do not control the airspace! Thanks for taking the time to comment, I really appreciate it!
You're a remarkable chap.
Thank you for taking the time to give sound advice.
Brother did that cop come from that bush back there LOL 😂 Love this
I can not run the risk of getting arrested by the police as I have one of those faces that look guilty even when I haven't done anything. I get nervous and say inappropriate things and joke about and always seem to unintentionally offend. I have had my Mavic Mini since December but it hasn't been outside yet due to lack of places to fly locally and the Coronavirus lock down but the mere thought of being challenged by a police officer who may not know the rules is enough to keep the drone in the box. I have registered as operator and flyer and have insurance but I am afraid that the CAA along with local councils have killed all the pleasure of drone flying for me and so I will now offer my Mavic Mini with fly more combo on eBay auction starting at 99p.
Hey G Wal! That's a real shame sir! Where are you located? If in the South East you are welcome to come fly at our club field to gain confidence etc.
I know what you mean about making inappropriate jokes and offending. I have had to curtail what I see as humour a lot in recent years!
Nice job Sean. Is that a tame copper from your local constabulary? Seems like a game bobby.
Hey Andrew! Thanks for the kind feedback. That is actually a good friend of mine who is an actor. He often appears on many UK shows as a paramedic or police officer and they tend to own their own uniforms.
@@Geeksvana great gig for him, seems the part.
He is a little too convincing, stayed in character the whole shoot 😂
As an ex officer listen to this gent stay in control calmly State your case nothing to hide nothing to fear,all else fails run for it “last part is a joke” 👍
thank you for the informative video. I will be traveling soon to the UK. Need some advice? Do I need some documentation? I will be bringing my Protek35 FPV drone and a 1s tiny whoop together with the battery and accessories. Thank you in advance.
Thanks, for the video!
I might also suggest that you wear a brightly colored vest that has "Licensed Drone Pilot. Please, do not disturb" printed on it. And, if you have authorization to operate in that air space, be prepared to provide that documentation, along with your license and drone registration information. You might also show the officer your flight and maintenance logs to establish that you are experienced and knowledgeable about the laws concerning drones.
No need for that. Drive outside of big city. Take the drone out of your trunk. Set it up fly. No registrations needed nothing. Simple.
Great idea for a video. I watch a lot of drone videos (can’t afford one, so I live my ‘hobby’ vicariously) and I haven’t seen this topic before.
This is brilliant. Very informative. Can I ask you I'm a hobbiest and want to fly the mavic mini 2 what will I need to do? Also will I need a flyer ID? I find the new rules confusing maybe it's just me.
Ops lic only £9 yearly, If you want to take test score over 30 out of 40 valid for 5 yes no charge, I scored 33 out of 40 and only read part of manual the main parts good luck.
@@tonyrobinson362 I see, thanks so much, not bad for 9 yearly, at least you know you can fly safe, better to be safe then sotty, thanks again, really appreciate it :)
@@westyorkshiretraveller No problem happy to help.
@@tonyrobinson362 Awesome, thanks again :)
Fab intro. Absolutely hilarious outro. Almost choked on my kebab!
Thanks Andy! We were very lucky to have Chris and all his expertise! Enjoy your kebab!
I’m gonna go to Lake District this weekend. Shall I take my drone with me; wondering if I can fly it?
Hey Borga! Thanks for taking the time to comment! I woild take it for sure. Just make sure you stick to the drone code and send it! I have flown there before myself and know many others who fly the Lake District regularly.
@@Geeksvana cool will give it a go, thanks
I hope that copper has a flyer ID ;-)
Hey CalmBiker! Thanks for taking the time to comment, I really appreciate it! Perhaps we should report him 😏
The simple fact of the matter is people, don't buy a drone. Don't read the rules, don't waste your money, and don't waste your time. The CAA change the rules to suit. And the costs of being a commercially competent pilot has soared beyond belief. Stick to greenbowls or crochet. Just make sure no one see's you do it.
I have witnessed operator launching drones next to a crowd of people , when a place away from people having been available a short distance away . I was shocked , new cruise ship Iona arriving at Southampton for first time , next to crowds of people at Hythe Marina. Kind of thinking . I spoke to the operator, he said he had permission.
But permission or but he was flying a drone from a launch site within 50 m of people , many people.
Many parts of the current system are comical for example keeping or having your flying ID on you ...when unlike every single other "license" I pay and register for they do not even provide a printable and recognisable license ,having to go through smart phone to show officers you are entitled is a poorly thought out idea and those Police I have dealt with were not willing to accept it UNTIL they queried with another officer.
Also the poor wording of the act makes many including Kelly Tolhurst MP (under secretary of state) that the rules do not apply to any sub 250g drone . I queried this through my MP when asking why it was illegal for me to fly a 25g whoop in my back garden FPV (without spotter)
and received a letter in response stating that the regulations and registration apply to all drones between 250g and 20kg ,as this was a direct response to my query on sub 250g uav it is hard to take it as anything other than a statement that sub 250g are not covered by current regulations..
The change to EASA reg's are still due in the new year ,but without education of Police officers problems will still occur
If you PM me I will send a copy of the ministerial response to my direct query .
Hey Evilroco! Thank you for taking the time to comment and for sharing that information. I would like to see the letter for sure! Feel free to email at sean@geeksvana.com. Thanks for sharing your experience.
@@Geeksvana I've sent a copy and will try and get copy of my query for you too .
Thanks for aiding us all in navigating current and future regulations.
Great video. Just subscribed. Do you have any tips or techniques on how to deal with (self entitled) public individuals that think they know the law who approach you and tell you to stop?
Thanks for the kind feedback! We do actually have a video to help avoid confrontation that includes some free downloads to print, ready to handout to anyone who approaches - ruclips.net/video/AOw6h3CE9Z4/видео.html
@@Geeksvana thanks, will check it out
I assume that cop was an actor! Also no offence but if I am flying my drone legally, safely and within the regulations, no police officer would make me pack up and leave.
WELL DONE SEAN, WELL DONE !
Hey Hold Short Runway 27! (love the name), thanks for taking the call and for the kind words! I really appreciate it!
Hi Geeksvana, i have a DJI Mini Mavic 1, 249g and i do have also the Operator ID and Flyer ID (i live in UK) as well as the licence to fly a A1 and A3 drones. If I stay away from "crowds" and 5km away from airport and respecting the 120m high, would I have problems with police while recording and flying at a park or a beach (not crowded)?
Thanks so much for your videos, You are an inspiration for me!
Great tips Sean even for us in the states. Funny intro!!
Hey Phillip! Thank you sir! Really appreciate all your support. I would say I hope you aren't working too hard but I think I know the answer already!! 😂
I'm a tad suspicious of the copper Coming out the BUSHES.......
Hey Brian! Great to see you sir! Yes, randomly appearing in a field is a tad suspicious isn't it 😂😂. That was our first take too...
@@Geeksvana well at least you didn't come out with the imortal line
IS THAT A TRUNCHEON IN YOUR POCKET OR ARE YOU JUST GLAD TO SEE ME
That's in the outtakes haha!!!
Great advice Sean, I would do exactly the same at the end, let the officer have a play lol :)
Hey BigG RC and video! Great to see you! Thanks for taking the time to comment! It is only fair to share our toys 😂😎
Great video. But I was waiting for the chase lmao. Sean we appreciate you and your channel...
Hey Lawrence thank you sir! The chase is in the outtakes haha!! 😂
Superior technology to remote ID is auto drone separation from other aircraft above 400feet , TFRs , restricted and controlled airspace. More legal freedoms to fly in clouds, fly as high as drone pilots want and beyond VLOS if the drone has auto return to home if the drone looses transmission contact with the controller
Very helpful, Sean. Thank you. And great to see you on TNL last week. Now a subscriber.
- Robert
Hey Robert! Thank you! Really appreciate your support and for taking the time to comment! Means a lot!
Ask the copper at the end where’s his flyer ID 😂
Hey MrStella1976! I definitely missed a couple of comedy moments 😂. One suggestion in the comments I liked was a 'Benny Hill' style chase at the end 🤣.
On a completely different matter could you confirm what the mavic air at 480g falls into on the new rules, is it C1? Would you need a Acofc to fly it as a hobbyist? Like the channel keep the good work up.
Hey Mick! We have a series of video coming up on the channel to explain this type of thing very soon! The Air 2 will be a legacy drone as it does not have a CE classification. However, holders of an A2 CofC would be able to fly them in the A2 airspace for two years! Thanks for the comment, appreciate it!
@@Geeksvana thanks for that look forward to seeing the up and coming videos.
Greetings from Cyprus! Great content Sean. Here in Cyprus the local Cyprus CAA insist on registration of your drone (free via an online portal), but they issue no registration number or even a confirmation email that you are actually registered. Considering that in December 31st 2020, Cyprus will have to comply with the new EASA regulations it will be interesting how compliance will be administered. I seriously doubt that any local police officer has any idea about the regulations. I attended a course here, and have an Open Category Recreational Flyer certification (which I always carry when flying), but have recently completed my A2 Certificate of Competency (CofC) with UAVHub in the UK to comply with the new EASA regulations. It will be interesting if the Cyprus CAA will recognise my UK A2 CofC certification when you new EASA regulations become law at the end of 2020. I doubt it actually, but we will see! Cheers
Hey David! Great to see you. Thanks for taking the time to comment and share your experience! Yes, it will be an interesting period next year to see which countries stick to the new EASA regs and which ones take time to roll out.
We are hoping for an announcement from the CAA very soon which might be useful in terms of using a UK A2 cert in the EU. Watch this space!
Absolutely! With covid and Brexit the drone regs across the EU are in flux. Hopefully we will get some clarity before the end of the year. Then we can unleash the power of the Mini!!
Sir... Even smaller drone need to get the permit example the weight of drone is 0.185 grams meaning I need to get ID or permit to fly the drone
Good information. Thanks for this vid.
Hey David Evans! Thanks for taking the time to comment and for your kind feedback, I really appreciate it!
Thanks
pretty sure there are no "Laws" even in the UK about flying model airplanes with a Pulsejet. which means if there are no regulations, you cant break them by doing it
I have never had an officer approach me, (tempting fate here) but have had a few just go past. I would like to think staying calm would be easy but I'm sure in practice its a bit more of a panic :D
Hye Mia! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts! The first time I was approached I did panic a bit. My flight was perfectly legal but it still threw me. I ended up having the conversation with the officer with the drone hovering, which I regret now.
Very good Sean, Mrs Miggins out with her dog are the awkward ones.
Hey Dave Jones! I sometimes wonder if Mrs Miggins is the CAA/FAA secret agent! Thanks for taking the time to comment, I really appreciate it!
@@Geeksvana Ah, secret agents....those will be the husbands of Mrs Miggins ;)
use of bodycam suggested to record the encounter
Maybe its just the part of the uk I stay in, but if you say "give me a minute" they drag you into the back of the van the procede to kick you in the head to your severe injury.
Having to bring a copy of the drone regulations to teach the law to the police, fancy that. It's utterly ridiculous that we have to prove our innocence. I will be carrying a copy of the regulations in case any halfwit wants to enforce laws they know nothing about.
They have refused to respond when I ask if I'm being detained.
The police are completely unreasonable.
Good video I've been thinking about this scenario a lot.
Hey Shawn! Professional, informative and important video! I just subscribed. Flurgens from Lars in Sweden.
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I just purchased a drone. what are these device id and flyer id what’s the difference and how do you get one
Hey John Hickson! Thank you for taking the time to comment and welcome to the hobby! You can complete the DMARES (Drone and Model Aircraft Registration and Education Scheme) here: register-drones.caa.co.uk/
This will give you the Flyer ID and Operator ID required.
I was flying my drone at an Event last night I also saw videos from the event from other people flying to is there ever any chance they could crash? notice more in the sky at the same time latley
Well ? flying too low in a park gets the attention of a uniform sometimes LOL .
So fly below the radar? Is that contributing to puplic education or just adding to the problem.
How would you raise awareness, which is the only way to find a long term resolution.
Your comment clearly has an agenda. Which I will leave with you.
Thanks!
Thankfully I live in the UK where even if your house is getting broken into a burgled. The police *might* show up… in 3 days time.
So a drone flyer would have got their footage and be long gone. Even if they could work out where you were flying from
on my bebop 2 i have both on each side off my battrey of my flyer and oporator ID
Hey runnerbean1980! Great to see you, hope you are well. That is a great idea! No question who's drone it is!
Geeksvana thank u Sean and agen thanks for a nother vid and for taking the time not just for me but all your subscribing reviewers stay safe out ther
Nice one Sean thank you very much.👍👌
Hey graham All by Drone! Thank you! Really appreciate you taking the time to comment!
Great video and tips thanks a lot
Hey Bartek Koch! Thanks for taking the time to comment and for your kind feedback! I really appreciate it!
Thanks for the great tips and video Sean!!!
Hey Darrell Hickman! Thanks for the kind words, means a lot! Hope you are well.
Very interesting and helpful video, thank you! Please could i get your thoughts about a nearby private (farm) airstrip, without an ATZ of course and no manned control whatsoever, it also doesn't show on NATS Drone Assist app, would it be legal for me to fly near that (as i want to video an area of interest nearby)? Thanks in advance. P.S I also have an air band scanner which would allow me to hear any radio calls made by nearby pilots.
Hey Simon! Thanks for taking the time to comment and for your kind words, much appreciated! In terms of airfields, there is a map available to show each field's individual FRZ, which you can access via this link: dronesafe.uk/restrictions/. If it does not show on there, I would suggest approaching either the CAA drone team on 0330 022 1908 or the airfield operator. As each field is unique it is hard to advise more specifically. Which field is it? Feel free to email me the details if not comfortable placing it in a public comment, (sean@geeksvana.com).
@@Geeksvana Thanks very much Sean, that's really helpful, i have sent you further details in an email. Thanks!
Can you do a video on how to deal with 'Karens' I've never had to deal with the police but I've had to deals with Karen's loads of times 😂
Hey Ben Thatcher! The ultimate 'Karen' guide! That would be a video to help everyone's lives!! 😂😂. Thanks for the comment, I really appreciate it!
Great video and information Sean as always sean can you tell me is ok to keep a body camera running when being talked to by the police and of course making them aware that it is recording? Just for my safety and there’s to in case you end with the scenario he said I said cheers
Hey Rodpiker! Great to see you, thanks for the kind words! Yes, in the UK it is fine to record the police. In fact some people make very popular RUclips channels doing just that!
I tend to find they are even more happy if you tell them it was already running. Hope this helps.
Geeksvana cheers
Thumbs up ere' Sean, great tips on flying your drone and not getting arrested. Many thanks for sharing the info :)
Hey Shaun! Thanks for taking the time to comment, always appreciate it! Hope. You are keeping well.
I've seen Lock Stock, I know how to deal with this; you yell 'COZZERS!', throw your gear into the suitcase and leg it.
Did the police officer have a flyer ID, if not he was in contravention of the drone code, which states that "you must pass the CAA's official theory test to get a flyer ID before flying a drone or model aircraft covered by the regulations" 😉
Great video
Hey Martin Reading! Thank you for the kind feedback! I really appreciate it! Chris, (police actor), was a good sport for the filming of this and we had a lot of fun. Reminds me of more socially mixing times!
@@Geeksvana , yeah hopefully more sociable times will return, I've only just started flying with a mini 2, other hobbies include cycling and haven't ridden with my cycling buddies since about may last year
Officially, you can tell them to "pack sand" unless they accuse you of a crime. no need to show them any licences, or registrations, or even answer any questions
That's not quite the situation for drone flight. The 2021 Unmanned Traffic Act has given police more powers, including to demand your drone is landed and to gain your Op ID.
I have a ryze tello and I can fly it anywhere people think it’s a toy because of its size 😃😃
Very Well Done Sean.... Important Information ....
Thank you Paul! Really appreciate your support sir! Hope you are feeling well.
Brilliant 😎👏👍
Thanks for the info.
Hey Simon Everett! Thanks for taking the time to comment, I appreciate it!
Run Sean, RUN 🏃♂️🤣. Great vid man. Edit was 👌🏽👍🏽
Thanks Maxair420! Really appreciate your kind words! To be fair, it was a warm day and nobody needs to see me run hahah!! 😂😂
@@Geeksvana 🤣🤣. Yeah been toasty in the states too. Cool down today. Tropical storm gave us some rain 👍🏽
Hope it isn't hitting you too hard!! We always complain about weather in the UK but we rarely get anything like you guys experience!!
Thanks Sean all very good tips
Hey Rick Halbur! Hope you are well sir! Really appreciate your support!
That's a timely video. I have a question... assuming that policeman was having a try of your Mavic Mini, were there any attachments taking it's take-off mass to 250 grams or more, and if so, had he a registered Flyer ID? If not, this would be a video for CrimeBodge (not that I subscribe to that channel, Officer). Entrapment???
Hey Lindsay Heyes! That would be an interesting one. Perhaps we could setup a roadside sign, 'free drone flights for police officers`.
The policeman in the video was an actor, his bio is in description. We actually decided not to fly the drone whilst filming him for safety reasons.
I love the idea though! Thanks for taking the time to comment, I really appreciate it!
@@Geeksvana There's a lot on RUclips about "Oi, get off moi land" and so on, so I've been tracking down farmers where I can and asking their permission - in case I have to leave a public right of way in some emergency, or to get VLOS for a desired shot. I give my contact details and tell them when I will be around, and nobody has objected in any way. Some say "call me", others say "any time".
Today, the news is of crime in the countryside. While out with my drone in the last month, I have come across poachers, wild campers (why were they not using the public access land 50 metres away?) and unauthorised detectorists (well, thieves). It's not surprising that any unfamiliar activity can be a trigger for a farmer to call the police or at least want to check a flyer out. Your recommended approach is spot on for them too.
We all think, when in wilderness, that we are the only ones to be there. But filming in a beauty spot is like gunning my motorbike on a quiet road... I may not encounter any other vehicle for miles, but the guy who tends his garden by those bends where I love to get the pegs down can hear the next biker coming before I am out of sight, and might have several hundred bikes roar past every Sunday.
Let's just be considerate, and ambassadors for drone flight. It costs nothing.
Like the idea of the hi-viz flyers vest, BTW. XXL for me.
Extremely well said! Thank you! The comments sections of my videos are just as informative as the videos themselves because of viewers like you. Such an awesome community!
Hi, great video. Good for the new pilots out there. Is there a map out there that shows you where the safe zones are? 🙏
Hey Edward! Thanks for the kind feedback, I really appreciate it! Are you in the UK? If so, I woild wholeheartedly recommend the Drone Assist app. If you search on Geeksvana channel there is a video showing you how to use it and find places to fly. Hope this helps.
@@Geeksvana thank you for your response, I am in the UK and have been looking for an app like this for a while 😃
I have a question relating to quite a specific issue: What should you do/aren’t required to do when confronted by private security near racecourses (or on private land) I’ve recently had an experience of it and wasn’t sure of my rights. Once again, any advice is greatly appreciated for a newbie pilot
Hey Edward, you are welcome. Very hard for me to comment on individual circumstances as it depends on so many factors and any answer would be filled with a million caveats!
@@Geeksvana no worries, I shall take a look at the app. Thanks for your help
Can I ask a question about the altitude please: If I'm in, say the lake district on a deserted hill, at sunrise or sunset, at a height of 500m, and I want to capture the vista in front me on a photo or a video, can I use a drone such as a DJI 2Pro or a Parrot Anafi? Or is that case that by already being at 500m I'm above the flight ceiling anyway?
Hey Gurinder Punn! Thanks for taking the time to comment. You must keep your drone within 400ft of the closest surface of the earth. So if you are stood on a 500m mountain then you can fly 400ft up from where you are stood. However, if there is undulating surface you must adjust the drone. There is an excellent graphic to describe this on the CAA UK drone registration website. Hope this helps.
@@Geeksvana yes, thanks. I found something in the CAP722 document as well.
excellent thank you
Hey steve logitech! Thanks for taking the time to comment and for your kind words!
Great info thank you.
Hey KILLERKERNOW TV! Thanks for taking the time to comment, I really appreciate it!
Im just about to get my first drone and the info in your content Is priceless
Just a quick comment. For some reason "all" of the audio on your videos is different than most others. I listen through headphones and it's like there is a massive increase in bass and an equal amount of reduction in the treble. It's very difficult to hear what you're saying. I have jumped back and forth between your videos and many others to make sure that I'm not complaining about something that I should adjust on my devices. I have found that you videos just sound like they're muffled by bass. If I'm the only one, then I'm sorry for wasting your time here. I do enjoy your content and knowledge on drones, and I'm obviously not in the minority there! Thank you.
Hey domelite! Thank you so much for taking the time to reach out. Audio was always an issue for me, mainly due to lack of knowledge lol. More recently, I think it has improved a lot because I try to get it working at source rather than needing treating. I have just replaced all the mics we use, so fingers crossed it improves a lot 🤞.
Again, appreciate you reaching out. This kind of feedback is very important to me.
As a matter of curiosity, is there any FAA - CAA/UK reciprocity for traveling drone flyers/photographers/videographers, or is life going to be complicated, and are we going to be limited to sub-250 gram drones when finally able to travel in a post C-19 World ?
Hi Leonard Oglesby! Thanks for taking the time to comment, I really appreciate it!
Any travelling drone flyer would need to register and pass relevant tests between the UKCAA and FAA. Although once the new EASA regulations are in place over the EU, flyers on the continent will be able to fly across border under the same rules and registration!
Can officers track your location if the drone is 2 miles away?
Hey Jonerri juseppi! Existing drone detection systems can identify drone and operator position from around 20 miles away. Hope this helps.
gGat tips which can get a lot of hot headed people flying drones stay out of trouble.
Hey Chasbro Chas! Thanks for the comment, I really appreciate it! Absolutely, a calm head is key!
Sound advice Sean!
Hey Ian Kelly! Thank you so much for taking the time to comment, I really appreciate it! Hope you are well.
@@Geeksvana I'm very well Sean, I hope you are too!
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Keep up the good work!
That's amazing! Good job sir!! I am very good thank you!