Daniil Trifonov - Sonata in B minor, Op. 58 (third stage, 2010)

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  • @davidhertzberg
    @davidhertzberg 2 года назад +170

    No matter how many times I hear the fourth movement, I get shivers up and down my spine. Surely this is one of the pinnacles of Chopin's musical achievements.

    • @T-J-S
      @T-J-S Год назад +8

      Same here. Pure genius

    • @dka5631
      @dka5631 Год назад +5

      i get it too, but only from Trifonov interpretation

    • @dka5631
      @dka5631 Год назад +3

      ​@@davidhertzberg thank you. I enjoy many recordings, but for 4th mvt. only Trifonov gets me chills. For my taste I think most pianists neglect 'agitato' and have it sound more casual/straightforward. Trifonov introduces triplets, then does accelerando second phrase - really underlining a demonic character. And in the octave form plays heavy russian style
      But! Trifonov mvt1 im not particularly fan of 🙂

    • @РиммаСкороходова-п3ч
    • @Ирина-е8ф2й
      @Ирина-е8ф2й 9 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@davidhertzbergРедко встречается музыкальная вовлеченность равная той,которой обладает Даниил Трифонов.

  • @BWV846
    @BWV846 2 года назад +34

    Don't need a long word.. Just listen to this legendary performance.

  • @1212hjb
    @1212hjb 2 года назад +54

    I always find myself coming back to Daniil's rendition of this piece. So hauntingly beautiful and captivating.

  • @Thiago-px9ev
    @Thiago-px9ev 3 года назад +84

    Absolutely SUPERB! Now that's a pianist whose playing cannot be described as "boring". Thats what makes classical music alive.

  • @L4AH4N1889
    @L4AH4N1889 4 года назад +184

    1st mov 00:00 - 09:08 Allegro maestoso (B minor → B major).
    2nd mov 09:08 - 11:45 Scherzo: Molto vivace (E-flat major → B major → E-flat major).
    3rd mov 11:45 - 20:49 Largo (B major → E major → B major).
    4th mov 20:49 - 25:41 Finale: Presto non tanto (B minor → B major).

  • @zygmuntlubomirski5345
    @zygmuntlubomirski5345 Год назад +18

    I believe this music came to us from heaven via Fryderyk Chopin. No matter how many times I hear it I can not be bored. Daniil is an excelent performer. I wish I could play like him.

  • @gustavogutierrez5482
    @gustavogutierrez5482 3 года назад +54

    Perfect performance, and the piano sounds beautiful.

  • @dawidwalega4726
    @dawidwalega4726 2 года назад +15

    My piano teachers favourite pianist! No wonder that my teacher recommended this performance to me. This interpretation has inspired me to study this piece in the future. Thank you Chopin Institute for sharing. Dawid

  • @cculwell1
    @cculwell1 2 года назад +20

    I don't know how anyone can actually perform that final movement, much less make it art. This guy is incredible.

    • @danielbaggins7341
      @danielbaggins7341 9 месяцев назад

      Why? Is it difficult? Sorry for stupid question, never touched a piano lol.

    • @rivonthecliff
      @rivonthecliff 8 месяцев назад +2

      it is utterly insane to attempt this sonata on a live stage

    • @dora9103
      @dora9103 3 месяца назад +1

      @@danielbaggins7341 this is a competition and only a few or maybe no one except DT (I'm not sure about this tho) is confident enough to bring such emotionally and techincally difficult piece into a competition. But of course for DT it's a chance to play this brilliantly on the third stage (basically passing the third stage 😏).

  • @alexbrk1157
    @alexbrk1157 4 года назад +72

    His performance of the third mouvement (Largo) is very unique and special. His personal choice of voicing the upper note on the right hand rather than emphasizing the lower notes on the left hand is executed quite exquisitely. Excellent 👌🏻

  • @gliddyglupgloopy
    @gliddyglupgloopy 4 года назад +117

    As a student in my last year at University, I performed this work. I was not nearly as polished and mature of a player as Trifonov is now, but I still fell in love with this piece with all its incredible melodies, inner voicings and its exciting arpeggiated & scalar passages, especially in the Finale. Trifonov plays this from a deep spiritual place, in my opinion. I can even see the love that he expresses in his physical technique and in his body language and facial expressions. I am thinking of revisiting this work after almost 40 years, as he has really inspired me. I love your playing of this work Daniil!!

    • @deliatorresaryan6532
      @deliatorresaryan6532 3 года назад +3

      David Sprool ¡ qué hermoso tu comentario ! Me siento tu alma gemela porque comparto cada una de tus palabras sobre Trifonof !!! En la próxima reencarnación lo escuchamos juntos jajaja

    • @thorstentopp3824
      @thorstentopp3824 3 года назад +3

      @@deliatorresaryan6532 Trifonov is a player who´s unique in our century. Nobody today plays like him. He´s comparable only to the great masters like Richter, or Arrau. He is not the new Arrau but he cares about the fire.

    • @zavierarthur1589
      @zavierarthur1589 3 года назад

      instaBlaster...

    • @themoroccanpianist8953
      @themoroccanpianist8953 3 года назад +2

      @@thorstentopp3824 what about Eric liu , kate lu , or seong Cho ?

    • @sebastianciarfella3061
      @sebastianciarfella3061 2 года назад +1

      @@themoroccanpianist8953 seong-jin cho is probably the only out the ones you mentioned that comes close to him. It's just that trifonov's accuracy, voicing, tone and momentum while playing is just something that hasn't been seen in years/has been replicated nowdays by the amount of pianists you can count with the fingers in your hand.

  • @claudiamilano9010
    @claudiamilano9010 Год назад +6

    Che meraviglia, le mani volano!

  • @woodworth82
    @woodworth82 8 лет назад +92

    Wonderfully exhilarating performance! Filled with poetry and excitement. Bravo!

  • @teamsuperbeesilverbush5137
    @teamsuperbeesilverbush5137 Год назад +3

    A truly remarkable performance with pristine video and audio. And, oh, that final movement!!!

  • @JohannesC-c9k
    @JohannesC-c9k 8 месяцев назад +11

    To play like this is genius. 88 keys, 10 fingers, genius mind and genius composer. What magical sounds Chopin brought from the piano. Brilliants pianist you are Daniil.

  • @SPEARFISHER
    @SPEARFISHER 7 лет назад +61

    Absolutely stunning performance! So creative with phrasing and inner melodies and yet so sincere and genuine. Thank you

  • @kaorik4182
    @kaorik4182 7 лет назад +151

    i absolutely love his style of playing.

  • @artje123
    @artje123 6 лет назад +46

    Pity that in a world with so many talented people, no one is dedicated to actually creating new classical music that is accessible and appreciated by a big audience like this music, just because it would be considered imitation or an out of date style. There must be someone around capable of composing music in the style of Chopin or other classical masters that may not be original in style but more enjoyable to the general public than most contemporary classical (ie seemingly random notes and cacophony)...

    • @jorianvannee9590
      @jorianvannee9590 6 лет назад +9

      Yes, agreed :) With 7 billion people there must be enough quality to equal or even improve the kind of music we love the most. I think we shouldnt per se try to imitate old masters, but let them influence us in our writing, so that everybody creates there own identity with all the things they love the most about music. I feel like modern classical music lacks a bit of that inspiration and influence, most of it seems to want to be a completely 'new' and 'unique' thing, but music has always been building further on things that already existed, just like science, we didnt immediately start with wifi and ipads. Making a complete new musical thing just seems so rubbish, I think it would be great if people arent afraid to get heavily influenced by composers they love, and with that theyll make there own thing.

    • @ianloco100000
      @ianloco100000 5 лет назад +4

      Edoartto brotto does...he has a RUclips channel and his music is really great

    • @jorianvannee9590
      @jorianvannee9590 5 лет назад +3

      @@ianloco100000 yes, its great, happy to hear!

    • @Johannes_Brahms65
      @Johannes_Brahms65 4 года назад +5

      Personally I don't think anybody is capable. Like nobody can paint like Da Vinci, or Rembrandt.

    • @jjmcnamara5236
      @jjmcnamara5236 4 года назад +6

      I understand, but technically classical music never died, it just evolved. As baroque went to classical ,classical to romantic,romantic to contemporary, it would be like rachmaninoff to write a 4th piano concerto but it sounds like Bach lol, it just wouldn’t make sense.but yes I agree that this is the best classical music stylistically and it’s gone very downhill with a lot of the works of today lol

  • @charlottelablatiniere145
    @charlottelablatiniere145 3 года назад +11

    Je ne peux pas m'empêcher de pleurer à chaque fois que je le vois jouer... Performance d'une telle expression et d'un jeu si clair et prenant ! Argh, quel plaisir

    • @deliatorresaryan6532
      @deliatorresaryan6532 3 года назад +3

      Cómo te entiendo !!! D T es tan poderoso y como un niño parece no sentir la ternura que produce, se parece a mis nietos ⭐️

  • @TheAnalysis2
    @TheAnalysis2 7 лет назад +44

    He played 2:54 - 3:07 & 7:57 - 8:08 these parts in my favorite way.
    Breathtakingly beautiful

  • @toflisbonne
    @toflisbonne Год назад +6

    Exceptionnel. De très loin, la meilleure interprétation de cette sonate.

  • @smb123211
    @smb123211 7 лет назад +71

    Incredible performance - lots of nuance, fire and the most important part, the ability to bring out all those inner melodies. The technique is off the charts and the interpretation gets an A+

  • @rinacravero
    @rinacravero 5 лет назад +15

    Dulce y poderoso al mismo tiempo, este es un pianista superior, ninguno como él. Magnífica interpretación de Chopin. Gracias Daniil❤️🎹🎼🎵
    Sweet and powerful at the same time, this is a superior pianist, none like him. Magnificent interpretation of Chopin. Thanks Daniil❤️🎼🎵🎹👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @ЛюдмилаЛагута-ы1к
    @ЛюдмилаЛагута-ы1к 8 лет назад +11

    Такое проникновенное исполнение!!! Благодаря Даниилу я полюбила эту сонату и теперь готова слушать ее бесконечно!) Спасибо!

  • @1noowy
    @1noowy 2 месяца назад +3

    Chopin's musical testament: Sonata in B minor and Polonaise Fantasy in A flat major, so beautifully performed by Danil Trifonov! P.S. why am I crying?

  • @ChanceyWigglesworth
    @ChanceyWigglesworth 3 года назад +7

    The largo is so agonizingly gorgeous. I get the same way with this piece as I do with the last minute or so of the Adagio to Mahler's 10th. Eyes clenched, practically begging for the beauty to stop.

  • @ВикторияМингалеева-п8з

    Замечательный пианист. Браво!!!

  • @itzeldunn427
    @itzeldunn427 6 лет назад +12

    The lead up to the coda in movement 4 is about the greatest climactic section in any Chopin work. Amazing

    • @ruyfaco
      @ruyfaco 5 лет назад +2

      RIGHT

    • @ruyfaco
      @ruyfaco 5 лет назад +2

      By now, I was really beginning to think as me being the only one who felt that in that way haha...

    • @erezsolomon3838
      @erezsolomon3838 3 года назад +1

      By the time we get there, It can't fail to excite. That feeling! 😆

  • @emmanuelmartin04
    @emmanuelmartin04 7 лет назад +35

    Absolutely breath-taking... at a loss of words...

  • @jimc1466
    @jimc1466 11 месяцев назад +2

    Brilliant performance by an exceptional musician

  • @rachgodf03
    @rachgodf03 24 дня назад

    1:23 One of the most beautiful melodies Chopin wrote. Daniil plays it so beautifully

  • @anosmianAcrimony
    @anosmianAcrimony 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is both an inspired and original interpretation, and played to a brilliant and highly disciplined standard - really well done!

  • @composer-philippsen
    @composer-philippsen 2 года назад +4

    Das ist ein wahres "Allegro maestoso" , bravo....

  • @Michelle6998832
    @Michelle6998832 Год назад +3

    My God, what a sound! Great talent, great piano, amazing sonata, master composer 🙏🏻 🤲🏻 🕍 What else can one want. (peace, love, health, and true friendships along this brief journey).
    Stay good and safe, everyone!

  • @kenyang687
    @kenyang687 7 лет назад +41

    A brilliant interpretation and exhibition of a wonderful piece of art. I have never heard any other interpretation for the part starting at 1:23. So much control over the change between colors as well as dynamics on a very bright piano, completely brings out the subtleties and the emotions. Genius.

    • @AndrewWilde7227
      @AndrewWilde7227 5 лет назад +1

      Ken Yang Well said. Did you hear Dinu Lipatti in this part? It’s so beautiful I sometimes imagine Chopin himself would play like that.

  • @erlinhld8745
    @erlinhld8745 5 лет назад +8

    Herrlich. Für jemanden der Chopins Musik liebt und versteht ist dies ein absoluter und letztlich unübertrefflicher Genuss.

  • @hannastaszak1684
    @hannastaszak1684 3 года назад +5

    Cudowna muzyka genialnego Chopina, boskie wykonanie. Dziękuję.

  • @МарианнаЮматова
    @МарианнаЮматова 6 лет назад +15

    Замечательное исполнение, нежное, проникновенное, Даниил донес всю глубину и красоту музыки Ф.Шопена, отличное понимание композиторского замысла..Браво!!! 🌷🎹❤👏👏👏

  • @Sifsif__ma
    @Sifsif__ma 4 года назад +13

    I just realized this is the best rendition of this sonata

  • @connypiano5038
    @connypiano5038 7 лет назад +91

    This is absolutely outstanding

  • @D.Oktipu
    @D.Oktipu 2 года назад +4

    This was the best finale I ever heard

    • @dawidwalega4726
      @dawidwalega4726 2 года назад +1

      Finale is my favourite movement of this sonata.too.

  • @KillaGandhi
    @KillaGandhi 10 месяцев назад +7

    The spirits are fully channeling in this performance.

  • @sulimabarba2935
    @sulimabarba2935 4 года назад +14

    Me encanta este pianista. Espero poder escucharlo en vivo algún día. Es puro talento y sentimiento. 🌹🌷❤

    • @rinacravero
      @rinacravero Год назад +2

      Yo también estuve soñando con escucharlo en vivo hasta que gracias a Dios tuve la suerte de estar en Montreal cuando fue a dar un concierto allí, fue magnífico y muy emocionante.

  • @buckylove6918
    @buckylove6918 6 лет назад +41

    recently discovered fantasy op 49 and reminded me of this piece. It has some similar elements but perfected here. No wonder he wrote this 3 years after. I think this piece kind of goes beyond our reality a bit. Sometimes i think Mozart didn't compose, but discovered, like It already existed. For Chopin, I think he went there, and the score is a tangent point to it. The score is evidence of it like footprints in the snow. I don't know if its real or not.

    • @thegreenpianist7683
      @thegreenpianist7683 6 лет назад +6

      Bucky Love I love your description, I can totally relate to what you want to express

  • @deliatorresaryan6532
    @deliatorresaryan6532 3 года назад +2

    Te amo Dani pones belleza y eliminas la soledad de mi vida. Te sé creciendo y amando en NY y comparto tu vis, tu potencia creativa. Te deseo lo mejor siempre, gracias por tanto

  • @rinacravero
    @rinacravero 2 года назад +4

    Bravo Daniil, eres maravilloso!!!

  • @УманськаНаталія
    @УманськаНаталія Год назад +5

    Трогательное нежное исполнение сонаты Шопена! Пробивает на чувства и поплакать над собой!!

    • @Ирина-е8ф2й
      @Ирина-е8ф2й Год назад +1

      Очень схожие ощущения.До слез ,до боли хорошо.
      Петербург.

    • @Ирина-е8ф2й
      @Ирина-е8ф2й Год назад +1

      Невероятный музыкант, просто гений не земного уровня. Иногда даже становится страшно за него.Удвчи,здоровья Вам,Данечка!
      Петербург.

  • @evrenozelpiano
    @evrenozelpiano 5 лет назад +8

    Simply masterful.

  • @dora9103
    @dora9103 3 месяца назад +2

    22:00 One of the best transition

  • @themoroccanpianist8953
    @themoroccanpianist8953 3 года назад +2

    For sure, this is one of the best largos I have ever heard

  • @gerardbedecarter
    @gerardbedecarter 5 лет назад +8

    A wonderful performance.

  • @ziegunerweiser
    @ziegunerweiser 2 года назад +3

    12:12 floating on the wings of an angel
    nearly 13 years later I feel there is something truly magical going on here
    even though I have have the cd if this video goes away my heart will be so broken

  • @robertgirard4862
    @robertgirard4862 4 месяца назад +1

    Sweet Master Daniil ! ... M-A-J-E-S-T-I-C ! ... ❤❤❤

  • @silencedogood7297
    @silencedogood7297 4 года назад +6

    We all award you first place ! Thank you for making this available online. wow

  • @chanhnguyen2215
    @chanhnguyen2215 2 года назад +2

    Good performance and good luck Daniil.

  • @gustavol_
    @gustavol_ 4 месяца назад +1

    While Martha is said to have delivered the best version and I can probably agree, forth movement here can't get any better. Diabolic feel. I love this man.

  • @annazully2680
    @annazully2680 Год назад +4

    insane playing, deciding a finalist must have been so difficult for that year

  • @hauca03
    @hauca03 3 года назад +4

    my favourite interpretation!

  • @adolfofranciscomallea8502
    @adolfofranciscomallea8502 2 года назад +5

    Una interpretación maravillosa!

  • @gustavol_
    @gustavol_ Год назад +5

    The way he pushes forward on the final movement is incredible. Makes you hold until the end. Besides the music I couldn't like this version more.

  • @memorosales1952
    @memorosales1952 6 лет назад +25

    His phrasing is very natural, easy to listen to.

  • @paulgreen6921
    @paulgreen6921 Год назад +5

    Wonderful! Crystalline delineation really makes for a beautiful, comprehensive rendition. This pianist is a distinguished artist of the first order. “But now we notice that the force of THE GOOD has taken refuge in a alliance with the nature of the beautiful; for measure and proportion manifest themselves in all areas as beauty and virtue.” -Plato. PWG RADIANT!

  • @ziegunerweiser
    @ziegunerweiser 7 лет назад +224

    9:08 11:45 20:49

  • @benjaminsmith2287
    @benjaminsmith2287 6 лет назад +17

    Love it. Possessed performance, the best kind.

  • @BrianPaick
    @BrianPaick 7 лет назад +172

    I'm glad Fazioli is getting some love.

    • @catkeys6911
      @catkeys6911 6 лет назад +21

      Sounds as good as any Steinway, really, if not better- beautiful, clear tone. As a semiretired piano tuner, I have a pretty good idea of what makes a great piano great, and this piano certainly has that sound.

    • @benjaminsmith2287
      @benjaminsmith2287 6 лет назад +3

      I like the Steinway least in this competition. At least this particular Hamburg. With pianos, it's very individual.

    • @Sunny-we7uv
      @Sunny-we7uv 6 лет назад +13

      To be honest I wanna see bosendoffer (However you spell it) That one is as good as a Fazioli. I was happy that a Fazioli was chosen since it sounds more louder and clearer.

    • @benjaminsmith2287
      @benjaminsmith2287 6 лет назад +14

      You probably won't see Bosendorfer and Yamaha at the same competition, since Yamaha owns Bosendorfer. Bosendorfer's are rarely at competitions.

    • @angelob.1089
      @angelob.1089 6 лет назад +4

      Faziolis are gorgeous pianos. A lot pricier than Steinways and Yamahas tho.

  • @giuseppep5796
    @giuseppep5796 5 лет назад +5

    Great performance!

  • @stefaniavallonchini1902
    @stefaniavallonchini1902 Год назад +3

    Semplicemente FANTASTICO WOW WOW 🔝🔝❤❤❤❤️❤️👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🤩🤩🤩

  • @eva_pax7923
    @eva_pax7923 3 года назад +4

    Я его просто обожаю, восторг💕👏💐💐💐

  • @myboibill
    @myboibill 6 лет назад +6

    We are The winners!a little performed Chopin gem in the skill ful hands and heart of a true talent

  • @fantassimo1
    @fantassimo1 6 лет назад +7

    I'm crying.

  • @willyj3321
    @willyj3321 5 лет назад +14

    Love the voicing in the left hand at 6:12.

  • @mauriziom9422
    @mauriziom9422 Год назад +1

    Wow super performance on super piano . Congratulations

  • @markstar5366
    @markstar5366 2 года назад +3

    1:23 mi parte favorita, grande chopin un genio

  • @blypiano
    @blypiano 4 года назад +5

    Played with such artistry and originality, which are the most precious nowadays. And what a gorgeous Fazioli instrument. It makes his playing even better like pure gold.

    • @dawidwalega4726
      @dawidwalega4726 2 года назад +1

      Fazioli grandpiano . Is my dream to try on someday. Unbelivable performance of this wonderfull sonata.

  • @JohannesC-c9k
    @JohannesC-c9k 5 месяцев назад +1

    It is amazing a human being can play than never mind compose it.

  • @irenenaselli2429
    @irenenaselli2429 3 года назад +4

    Chopin por Trifonov es el sonido hecho poesía

  • @djpitns
    @djpitns 7 лет назад +6

    mesmerising

  • @rinacravero
    @rinacravero 6 лет назад +7

    Hay momentos en que pareciera que va a explotar de la emoción... Mi pianista favorito ultrasensible, lo amo. ❣️

  • @christinahan8632
    @christinahan8632 4 года назад +9

    Absolutely brilliant !

  • @RepertoireSharer
    @RepertoireSharer 7 лет назад +22

    Astounding. Fantastic interpretation.

  • @Eugen_969b
    @Eugen_969b 7 лет назад +6

    Невероятно! Изумительный Шопен! Браво, Даниил!

  • @ludix711
    @ludix711 Год назад +2

    That was amazing!!

  • @michaajdukiewicz5925
    @michaajdukiewicz5925 4 года назад +20

    Kocham dotyk klawiszy Daniela Trifonowa. Istne misterium.

  • @Alraundelberin
    @Alraundelberin 6 лет назад +4

    Wow wow wow amazing performance, I loved the 3rd movement!! Brilliant.

  • @hassankawa2872
    @hassankawa2872 5 лет назад +2

    ممتاز جدا جدا عزف منفرد رائع أحياء لروح شوبان العظيم وإشجانه الرائعة

  • @rinacravero
    @rinacravero 5 лет назад +4

    El mejor pianista! Bravoo!

  • @juanferrequetglas4444
    @juanferrequetglas4444 3 года назад +1

    Favourite interpretation

  • @S.Lander
    @S.Lander 8 месяцев назад +1

    THANK YOU.

  • @rinacravero
    @rinacravero 7 лет назад +5

    Este joven talentoso virtuoso excepcional, toca Chopin divinamente, en realidad toda la música tocada por el se oye más linda.
    Bravoooooo Daniil! !!!

  • @구구-p5j
    @구구-p5j 3 года назад +3

    아 좋다.
    다니엘 감성 넘 좋아요

  • @ЛеонидПаршин-с1й
    @ЛеонидПаршин-с1й 4 года назад +10

    Гениальное исполнеие! Более совершенного и проникновенного исполнеия этого гениального произведения даже невозможно представить!

    • @ОльгаАбросимова-з3у
      @ОльгаАбросимова-з3у 4 года назад +2

      Одно из самых гениальнейших.

    • @ИринаИтенова
      @ИринаИтенова Год назад

      Послушайте,Алексея Султанова!

    • @БорисШалагінов
      @БорисШалагінов Год назад +1

      Мне очень импонирует, что лирические эпизоды (в 1-й части) уравновешены с целым. Многие играют, например, побочную партию прямо как отдельное самостоятельное произведение. У Трифонова же полная гармония!

  • @testaccount1140
    @testaccount1140 6 лет назад +4

    Thank you for this marvelous performance.

  • @kawanmimon3081
    @kawanmimon3081 5 лет назад +3

    Wunderbar sehr schön

  • @balladechopin5956
    @balladechopin5956 3 года назад +1

    I wish I could like this video as much as I want

  • @aspibillimoria3382
    @aspibillimoria3382 7 лет назад +16

    Absolutely superb!!

  • @MrFrapado
    @MrFrapado 6 лет назад +14

    Bravissimo Daniil! 🌟🌟🌟🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏

  • @JosephWeidinger
    @JosephWeidinger 2 года назад +1

    The intensity of his hands blows me away -- look at the tremors of his fingers when they stop suddenly like at the very end or 11:40. Idk how he can even control them so perfectly when they vibrate that much lol

  • @axelpierrard5729
    @axelpierrard5729 11 месяцев назад +1

    Sublime ......

  • @bongaz3547
    @bongaz3547 6 лет назад +12

    Pure magic!

  • @GUSTAVOMARZANO
    @GUSTAVOMARZANO 4 года назад +2

    Mil gracias