The entire time I was watching the tutorial, I thought "Oh, this is not preparing him at all for what is about to come". Also, here before the next meta: Day9 leveling curve.
I understand why they don't keep it up to date, but it is kind of hilarious that 90% of the minions in the tutorial are still in the game mode and haven't been for years lol.
53:00 Day9: If I don't upgrade people are going to throw up. Me watching the VOD: SELL THE COIN AND UPGRADE YOUR TAVERN! Also Me: Oh... he was talking about me...
I got a bunch of nostalgia from the tutorial, original battlegrounds was flawed, but it was honestly one of the most fun betas of a game I've ever played
That Hearthstone stream showed how much an abomination that game has become. Super happy I sold my f2p account for a hefty amount of irl money lol@@justBri123
Worst thing about learning battlegrounds is trying to read everything while the rope's burning, I definitely remember that pain. It gets a lot more fun after learning the cards.
@@3takoyakis i alwways get the pass, the only game i spend money on. wow etc is all from ingame gold. and those 15 bucks for hearthstone are not much anyway
Nice to see you again on hearthstone. For me the best time in hearthstone was your streams with Ben Brode like the first dungeon run... This was entertainment.
Ignoring all the backseaters, as someone who only plays battlegrounds since it came out, outside of a few random games or modes to finish a quest or something, it's really interesting to see the process of someone learning how each interaction works, what cards are permanent versus only in combat, things like that.
He went into it comparing it to other things, talking over the tutorial, looking away, manage to make himself annoyed by comparing it to stuff. He didnt go into this to honestly try the mode, he had already made up his mind about this. If you are in a tutorial, and decide how things work beforehand, assuming the entire intention is marketing and not gameplay, you setting yourself up for failure/ a massively slowed learning curve, as that info will be hammered into the user lmao
I really liked seeing him just as confused as I was when I first came back around when battlegrounds came out, and even now, anytime I play anything but battlegrounds. Something he said has kinda changed the way I explain games to people though funnily enough, when someone tried to explain how a location is like an artifact, that doesn't actually help it hinders. You CAN explain it like that, but you have to understand both games at a basic level, and the person you are explaining it to ALSO has to know them at a basic level, and you have to explain interactions, not comparisons. @@LilyMrrgglton
@@the_jestyr583 Ok? I was pointing out how he was the one making the comparisons, instead of going into it, seeing it as its own thing, hence hindering his learning curve cuz he kept projecting irrelevant data, like marketing which he kept making a point of earlier in the video atleast, claiming stuff was like it was only because of IP, when in actuality it had actual different mechanics, which if viewed as different, would let one use intuition to find features. Example; Claiming gold is just mana - and getting visually annoyed with it, referring to his earlier marketing statement - when if he just saw it as gold, he could have assumed through intuition "ok so with gold I buy, that mean I can sell too?" etc.
That first game impressed the hell out of me, people can whine about misplays all they want, but for someone with ZERO knowledge of the game or card effects he pulled together a really solid build and won against a person running the same tribe!
@@Nastyn1nja808 Certainly none were smurfing. They were all playing terribly. Day 9 managed to cobble together a strategy, but it as well was not good. He repeatedly ignored when the game gave him cards he should have gone crazy for, kept not understanding to have the deathrattle-buff cards at the front, etc etc. I'm not criticising him for it. It was his first game after all, and he did fine given that. But to win while playing that sub-optimally did just mean that his opponents were playing on similar levels.
the thing is, he also makes very bad decisions within the limited info he already has. He can learn to play better with practice obviously but this is an indication he is not a talent and won't be 'great' a factor is of course is his primary job here is to make funny content, he probably would do much better if alone and 100% focussed
@@Blackadder75 Reynor, one of the top professional starcraft 2 players started and lost games in bronze. If you've ever watched a pro level player learn a new game, you'd know no one is good off the bat. Particularly in a game which Daynine doesn't take seriously at all, it's just battlegrounds lol. He's never going to touch it again.
Day9 almost got the spicy pretzel mustard achievement on his very first game… the only match he lost is when he intentionally griefed himself by leaving that deathrattle minion on his board to spite that guy in chat lol
2:27:49 The damage is equal to the sum of the tiers of your tavern and your surviving minions. (That’s why you see stars appear on the minions after the battle, then fly to the hero to increase their attack.)
Been watching all your welcome back vids, and just like many years ago… I’m almost entirely NOT playing the game and solely watching you play. I feel like with the way you play and comment on the game I’m playing in soul with you 😂 I LOVE your vids and have been watching since omg idk…. Since a 5 mana 4/5 draw a card with +1 spell damage and had a minion type was INSANE 😂 Edit: out of all the pencil pushers I’ve seen you got the best pen twirl I’ve ever seen. 35:15
For me least played are BG (only when forced by event quest -.-) and arena Bg is 'who has bigger dudes' mode, and its unfun to make them as big as possible in timelimit. I like to think about my turns a bit and the way bg changed overtime its just imposible. Also kinda boring to watch, the reason is above, just repeat every turn of every game. Same reason i found autoches boring be4 HS made their own version
Don't know much about Day9s brood war history except that him and tasteless were playing at a high level very early on, tasteless tells a story about something, whether he was just getting home or doing something else but he just hears day9 yelling at the game like Arty does because he had just ran into 3 bbs's in a row
Is it strange that the best thing about this video is the nostalgia for those old minions, all of which (bar the micromachine) have been patched out over the years? It really takes me back. Edit: On a side not, I've litterally been fed those day9 hearthstone compilation videos which include that dominant hand insult. Love it!
It is SO stressful (in the best way) to watch as someone else makes moves you think are the wrong ones, or watch them miss obvious 'good' moves... Unironically, though, you did really well. I can't imagine it's easy to have a thousand backseaters trying to micromanage your gameplay while learning a new game.
I accidentally clicked on the BG tutorial but I didn't have time for it so I had to disconnect. I lost access to the tutorial since. I was trying to find the tutorial after watching a little bit of Kripp. Glad this one came up. Now I have a better understanding of BG
You do have sort of 2 (3 even) dimensional positioning in Battlegrounds, it's in the form of having the various kinds of shields, reborn and invisibility combined with normal minions. Visually they aren't in multiple rows, but logically they are.
Haven't played Hearthstone for a long time, haven't followed Day9 for a long time. But somehow, watching Day9 play HS again just makes me feel a little fuzzy inside.
Not sure i get that joke about his relationship with his mother... From what i remember she was a big supporter of his and his brother's careers in the early days...
I didnt see this stream but when i saw the first video i thought to myself "he should at least try a COUPLE games of bgs, right?" And im glad hes given it the chance. Even if he never returns to it
I dunno wy, but i was conviced Sean played BG before. When he said he didnt play HS since 2018 i was so confused because i was sure i watched some Day9 Battlegrounds Videos. Maybe my Brain mixed him up with RegisKilbin ^^
I've only played Battlegrounds for the last couple years, because I don't need to sort through 100s of cards and 1,000s of mechanics to craft a relevant deck that will only remain relevant for a couple months. In Battlegrounds,it's not pay to win.
The thing about the difficulty of RTS in general is that every millisecond unspent at powering, scouting, harassing, expanding, is detrimental to your overall strength in the game. You could easily point at games that have have more complexity than Starcraft from various point of view, but none of them that aren't RTS can compete with the execution difficulty of a game that requires 100% of your attention and action at all time for 20+ min without interruption. You don't get the death cam or round resets of shooters to think, you don't get the walk from base back to your lane to calm down, you don't get a timer that pauses the game every turn for you to plan ahead. And you don't get a second chance for a mistake, you'll pay for it the entire game or until your opponent makes a bigger one. tl;dr : In RTS, you lose tempo, you lose the game, you don't get a break to think on how to regain tempo unless your opponent is feeling particularly generous.
I think he chosen worst time to try BG. BG currently definitely can't be under auto-chess genre, because game is not about adapting strategy to what he gets from shop, but APM game about applying his strategy in most optimal way he can. (What i mean is, that currently game is about executing combo as fast as possible in his turn before time runs out, instead of utilizing resources as much effectively as possible, before his funds runs out.)
The entire time I was watching the tutorial, I thought "Oh, this is not preparing him at all for what is about to come". Also, here before the next meta: Day9 leveling curve.
Goodbye jeefcurve
Welcome day9curve
I understand why they don't keep it up to date, but it is kind of hilarious that 90% of the minions in the tutorial are still in the game mode and haven't been for years lol.
The whole time I was watching, I was flipping out that he wasn't upgrading the tavern. Lmao.
53:00 Day9: If I don't upgrade people are going to throw up.
Me watching the VOD: SELL THE COIN AND UPGRADE YOUR TAVERN!
Also Me: Oh... he was talking about me...
He is a complete moron
This video broke me
Rolling into a triple dragon at 1:03:44 only to be consumed by the demon/dragon and Sean didn't even notice, was pure brilliance.
Some say he’s still on tier 3 to this day
I got a bunch of nostalgia from the tutorial, original battlegrounds was flawed, but it was honestly one of the most fun betas of a game I've ever played
tutorial really ought to mention the discover minion from triples is based on your tavern tier
It also didn't explain what magnetic meant resulting in him not using it correctly while thinking the effect was going to work.
@@enlightendbelbro acting like magnetic is something from bgs😭😭😭
@@enlightendbel Magnetic is from the very first hearthstone expansion
Magnetic was not in GvG@@BrendanBeckett
@@BrendanBeckettit was from Boomsday
day9 would have loved bgs in the beginning
yeah nowdays its too much rng
it need a minion pool trimming
So it's Hearthstone? Haha
That Hearthstone stream showed how much an abomination that game has become. Super happy I sold my f2p account for a hefty amount of irl money lol@@justBri123
I was kind of thinking that. Early BG was SO good.
@@danang5 minion typing is not the problem with BG. It's an auto-chess, so RNG is part of the game. You weigh averages.
Worst thing about learning battlegrounds is trying to read everything while the rope's burning, I definitely remember that pain. It gets a lot more fun after learning the cards.
Ah I remember trying to play all heroes whenever i see them
Its pain considering you only have 2 options
+ talking to chat and making jokes
@@3takoyakis I respect your f2p choice
@@3takoyakis i alwways get the pass, the only game i spend money on. wow etc is all from ingame gold. and those 15 bucks for hearthstone are not much anyway
2:05
"buying minions *ALWAYS* costs 3 gold"
except when it doesnt....
Oh my god the second “What?” when the quests popped up had me a good gigglin
Lol @ that first game. Ah yes the ole "blow up my own divine shields (plural!)" strat. Impeccable.
Nice to see you again on hearthstone. For me the best time in hearthstone was your streams with Ben Brode like the first dungeon run... This was entertainment.
Ignoring all the backseaters, as someone who only plays battlegrounds since it came out, outside of a few random games or modes to finish a quest or something, it's really interesting to see the process of someone learning how each interaction works, what cards are permanent versus only in combat, things like that.
don't worry, as entertaining as it was, Day9 learnt mostly nothing and probably won't touch battlegrounds ever again :)) was still fun to watch tho
He went into it comparing it to other things, talking over the tutorial, looking away, manage to make himself annoyed by comparing it to stuff. He didnt go into this to honestly try the mode, he had already made up his mind about this. If you are in a tutorial, and decide how things work beforehand, assuming the entire intention is marketing and not gameplay, you setting yourself up for failure/ a massively slowed learning curve, as that info will be hammered into the user lmao
I really liked seeing him just as confused as I was when I first came back around when battlegrounds came out, and even now, anytime I play anything but battlegrounds.
Something he said has kinda changed the way I explain games to people though funnily enough, when someone tried to explain how a location is like an artifact, that doesn't actually help it hinders. You CAN explain it like that, but you have to understand both games at a basic level, and the person you are explaining it to ALSO has to know them at a basic level, and you have to explain interactions, not comparisons.
@@LilyMrrgglton
@@the_jestyr583 Ok? I was pointing out how he was the one making the comparisons, instead of going into it, seeing it as its own thing, hence hindering his learning curve cuz he kept projecting irrelevant data, like marketing which he kept making a point of earlier in the video atleast, claiming stuff was like it was only because of IP, when in actuality it had actual different mechanics, which if viewed as different, would let one use intuition to find features.
Example; Claiming gold is just mana - and getting visually annoyed with it, referring to his earlier marketing statement - when if he just saw it as gold, he could have assumed through intuition "ok so with gold I buy, that mean I can sell too?" etc.
Definitely! @@LilyMrrgglton
“9 damage, good for branding😎”
"Brian! I'm playing the game!" that was so cute ^^
That first game impressed the hell out of me, people can whine about misplays all they want, but for someone with ZERO knowledge of the game or card effects he pulled together a really solid build and won against a person running the same tribe!
Mostly true, though note you start at rating 0, all of these players are playing their first game or have nfi what's going on in general.
@@thegamersmanifesto3671or Smirf account lol
@@Nastyn1nja808 Certainly none were smurfing. They were all playing terribly. Day 9 managed to cobble together a strategy, but it as well was not good. He repeatedly ignored when the game gave him cards he should have gone crazy for, kept not understanding to have the deathrattle-buff cards at the front, etc etc. I'm not criticising him for it. It was his first game after all, and he did fine given that. But to win while playing that sub-optimally did just mean that his opponents were playing on similar levels.
the thing is, he also makes very bad decisions within the limited info he already has. He can learn to play better with practice obviously but this is an indication he is not a talent and won't be 'great'
a factor is of course is his primary job here is to make funny content, he probably would do much better if alone and 100% focussed
@@Blackadder75 Reynor, one of the top professional starcraft 2 players started and lost games in bronze. If you've ever watched a pro level player learn a new game, you'd know no one is good off the bat. Particularly in a game which Daynine doesn't take seriously at all, it's just battlegrounds lol. He's never going to touch it again.
Day9 almost got the spicy pretzel mustard achievement on his very first game… the only match he lost is when he intentionally griefed himself by leaving that deathrattle minion on his board to spite that guy in chat lol
I LOVE YOU DAY9 always brings a smile to my face and much laughter
The fact that he stayed at 30 health the whole time in his very first Battlegrounds game was impressive.
Well, 3 left on turn 1 and the rest were awful
My fav day9 vid in years. I love seeing him play hs again. Would love a monthly battlegrounds stream
2:09 Funnily, no it does not always cost 3 gold.
2:27:49 The damage is equal to the sum of the tiers of your tavern and your surviving minions. (That’s why you see stars appear on the minions after the battle, then fly to the hero to increase their attack.)
Im feeling so nostalgic right now watching day9 play hearthstone
15:00
I dont have any beasts
Literally just played the beast
0:23 no way ceaseless expansion leaked
Day9: *barely reads any of the card's text*
Also Day9: I can't process all this information
Been watching all your welcome back vids, and just like many years ago… I’m almost entirely NOT playing the game and solely watching you play. I feel like with the way you play and comment on the game I’m playing in soul with you 😂 I LOVE your vids and have been watching since omg idk…. Since a 5 mana 4/5 draw a card with +1 spell damage and had a minion type was INSANE 😂
Edit: out of all the pencil pushers I’ve seen you got the best pen twirl I’ve ever seen. 35:15
2:09:17 love that emote, his opponent knew he fucked up and didn't get punished lol.
Really hope to see more day9 battlegrounds.
tbf based on some of the advice he's getting a lot of Day9s chat are also bad at battlegrounds lol
I have been waiting for this for SO long... bg is the only form of hs that I play (even tho I haven't played in like 6+ months)
For me least played are BG (only when forced by event quest -.-) and arena
Bg is 'who has bigger dudes' mode, and its unfun to make them as big as possible in timelimit. I like to think about my turns a bit and the way bg changed overtime its just imposible.
Also kinda boring to watch, the reason is above, just repeat every turn of every game. Same reason i found autoches boring be4 HS made their own version
1:30:47 when it comes to broodwar, it's not wether you make a mistake or not. it's wether your units path correctly :D
Don't know much about Day9s brood war history except that him and tasteless were playing at a high level very early on, tasteless tells a story about something, whether he was just getting home or doing something else but he just hears day9 yelling at the game like Arty does because he had just ran into 3 bbs's in a row
That shirt alone made me subscribe. Thank you.
Youre lucky i just love seeing you play this game again cause this has to be the worst and yet most hillarious way ive seen anybody play BGs😂😂
I legit had dreams about the finale of season 1 Severance where I was just telling people how good it was, so I feel you.
This was infuriating to watch…and i loved every minute of it lol
The rage I feel from watching this
Is it strange that the best thing about this video is the nostalgia for those old minions, all of which (bar the micromachine) have been patched out over the years? It really takes me back.
Edit: On a side not, I've litterally been fed those day9 hearthstone compilation videos which include that dominant hand insult. Love it!
Not sure what the Murazond play was intended to do, but I think the other guy was snowballing wildly so there probably was no way to win.
Buying the tunnel blaster with a divine shield quest is wild 😂
he is the archetype charismatic noob
There actually is positioning to a degree. You can influence who attacks when by your order. What they attack also isn't entirely random.
What a wonderful return
I kinda pray the algorithm forces day9 to return to hearthstone lol
Day9 please keep doing hearthstone
great 2nd game, learnt so much tbh
Funday Monday was the highlight of my week for a long time! :D
I love how watching Avatar the last airbender multiple times is just the norm at this point
was not expecting Sean to shout out !!! they're a dope band! You should listen to them!
Damn its so funny when Day9 mentioned baldness - i notice how transparent his hair look on green screen, its almost illusive xDD
It is SO stressful (in the best way) to watch as someone else makes moves you think are the wrong ones, or watch them miss obvious 'good' moves...
Unironically, though, you did really well. I can't imagine it's easy to have a thousand backseaters trying to micromanage your gameplay while learning a new game.
I accidentally clicked on the BG tutorial but I didn't have time for it so I had to disconnect. I lost access to the tutorial since. I was trying to find the tutorial after watching a little bit of Kripp. Glad this one came up. Now I have a better understanding of BG
Thanks Sean :)
I had no idea what the hell was going on when I first started playing Battlegrounds. It took my ages to learn there was a defacto curve plan.
You do have sort of 2 (3 even) dimensional positioning in Battlegrounds, it's in the form of having the various kinds of shields, reborn and invisibility combined with normal minions.
Visually they aren't in multiple rows, but logically they are.
So glad I was not there to watch this live. I'd probably have been timed out so many times from involuntarily trying to back seat the game.
Upgrades The Beast. "I don't have any beasts."
Haven't played Hearthstone for a long time, haven't followed Day9 for a long time. But somehow, watching Day9 play HS again just makes me feel a little fuzzy inside.
Would love to see Day9 try some Fairytale Fables. This game deserves more attention
Rarren introduced me to you, youre hilarious to watch thank you for the enoyment smile
This is what we've been waiting for, constructed is giga ResidentSleeper in 2024.
they sure havent updated the minions and heroes in the tutorial in the last five years haha
OMFG A POGOHOPPER
That clockwerk mug made me want one.
I loved the mutalisk :D
16:30 - 16:42 "I'm just trying to get some education here" 😫
Ive been witing for day9 to play BG for ages! Dude you'd be so good at it if you keep playing
I miss Day9 and hearthstone so much more than i thought.
it looks like he play 1st video game in his life
Not sure i get that joke about his relationship with his mother... From what i remember she was a big supporter of his and his brother's careers in the early days...
At 15:16? He was trying to sell a card called Mama Bear.
It's wild how they not even back sited, they called the cards by their names. I have like 1000 hour in bg and I don't even know their names.
Oh my god I’m so excited
I didnt see this stream but when i saw the first video i thought to myself "he should at least try a COUPLE games of bgs, right?" And im glad hes given it the chance. Even if he never returns to it
8:46 yea they even told you that!...
I can’t wait for Sean to discover that high level battlegrounds is an APM game
Deathrattle gang assemble
why was the knight tripled between 41:00 and 42:00 ????? help
His hero power states "when you buy three minions in one turn, get a copy of one of them", when he bought his 3rd minion he got another knight.
hero power
I dunno wy, but i was conviced Sean played BG before. When he said he didnt play HS since 2018 i was so confused because i was sure i watched some Day9 Battlegrounds Videos.
Maybe my Brain mixed him up with RegisKilbin ^^
I love your shirt
I've only played Battlegrounds for the last couple years, because I don't need to sort through 100s of cards and 1,000s of mechanics to craft a relevant deck that will only remain relevant for a couple months.
In Battlegrounds,it's not pay to win.
that thing when Day9 makes a video about a game that looks like fun and you just the other day uninstalled everything blizzard related
I keep being pretty shocked that Sean sells units that he has invested so many turns' worth of buffs and gold into. :o
I cannot get over how much the barkeeper looks like he doesnt belong in Hearthstone.
Where's that T-shirt from!?
I don't know where Day9 got it but apparently some in chat have found it on Teespring. I hope that helps.
Bob is right tho. You are a real insperation mate. Cheers!
that one guy might be right they might need to update the tutorial
I have never heard of quests and spells in BG??
Spells were added with Badlands BG, quests generally come in during the latter part of BG season before the next expansion BG pass
I never even know BG has tutorial
I was playing at mobile
No backsitting ,but the last game was a meltdown of Sean going into rerolls and losing momentum
Wow that first game was something with the hand full of spells. 😂 Everyone else is also a noob though, so it's OK.
The thing about the difficulty of RTS in general is that every millisecond unspent at powering, scouting, harassing, expanding, is detrimental to your overall strength in the game. You could easily point at games that have have more complexity than Starcraft from various point of view, but none of them that aren't RTS can compete with the execution difficulty of a game that requires 100% of your attention and action at all time for 20+ min without interruption. You don't get the death cam or round resets of shooters to think, you don't get the walk from base back to your lane to calm down, you don't get a timer that pauses the game every turn for you to plan ahead. And you don't get a second chance for a mistake, you'll pay for it the entire game or until your opponent makes a bigger one.
tl;dr : In RTS, you lose tempo, you lose the game, you don't get a break to think on how to regain tempo unless your opponent is feeling particularly generous.
sir, this is a Wendy's
whoever said this was harder then Star Craft clearly has no idea what they're talking about
Lol that tutorial has like no minions in common with the current pool
I think he chosen worst time to try BG. BG currently definitely can't be under auto-chess genre, because game is not about adapting strategy to what he gets from shop, but APM game about applying his strategy in most optimal way he can. (What i mean is, that currently game is about executing combo as fast as possible in his turn before time runs out, instead of utilizing resources as much effectively as possible, before his funds runs out.)
Tbh battleground could be categorized as new sub mode of auto battler
Superauto pets is the first clone of it
its funny they didnt update that tutorial at all ... a lot of those minions arent in the game anymore
I am shocked he has never played BG's It literally was what saved Hearthstone from becoming irrelevant after standard stopped being popular.
2:09:10 Rylak highlight
It is bananas you won the first real match
“how did they get so big” while he proceeds to sell all his biggest guys ????????
This made me low key miss early BGs
OMG so many missed opportunities around in the round at 38 min haha
all other units are ellephant. Nice.
Very surprised he's never tried battlegrounds yet
nice shirt day9 :)