I don't believe in bigfoot either, but dismissing testimony from people is a ridiculous argument to say they aren't real. There are people serving time in jail based on "testimony" from people.
As someone who didn't used to "believe in Bigfoot", I can guarantee you they're very real. I used to mock the entire idea, and anyone who "believed in it", which is the average go-to response to something that seems so absurd. But after seeing a few, finding tracks, hearing vocalizations, and returning to trails I had made to find them marked with stones, it's impossible now for me to think otherwise; they're out there. I don't think they're animals, though; not in the, "deer, rabbit, squirrel, coyote," sense of the word. They seem to be a people, and they're very aware and highly curious, but if they know you've seen them or you frequent an area they've claimed, they get very territorial - might even follow you home. I don't spend anywhere near the amount of time in the forest as I used to - the woods around here have gotten smaller and smaller over time with housing developments, and I've moved to the city and work too often - and as a result I haven't had an encounter in a decade. But I'm sure they're still around. I wouldn't worry too much about them; if you leave them alone, odds are they'll do the same. It's the dogmen that I'd worry about; those, I have no idea if they exist or not, but too many people around here have ran into them for it all to be nothing.
Do some research. Eye witness testimony is some of the most unreliable forms of "evidence" But it still amazes me that a 60 year old piece of film and eye witness testimony is still what bf believers have to go on for the most part.
@@Augie-r9q Hundreds of foot prints Audio recordings that cannot be linked to any known species Wood knocking and other auditory clues And the fact that you so easily dismiss the PG film. That film has been analyzed, so much that many scientists have not been able to
Which is why most courts give little credence to eyewitnes accts. The skeptic guy is an ass, but stripped of all the mockery, he is still correct, more so than the OP. Look at the original PG film vs the blown up and AI altered new versions. You simply cannot blow up a film image and GAIN more info. Go watch the Antonioni film Blowup. AI altered film is also worthless. Decades of folks pointing out that the feet were bootlike, that the glutes did not move and there was no asscrack, and them AI comes and suddenly we see that, and toes and a face. The PG film in the original, is easily seen as a suit, but w all the AI and tweaks it is now worthless as evidence. If the Zaprude rfilm were as altered as the PG film we'd be seeing UFOs taking shots at JFK!
Two minutes in and it’s clear that this person isn’t an actual skeptic. They’re barely a cynic. More appropriately, they are more accurately simply a troll.
Lets be real guys, is a really big ape on two legs all that harder to grasp than a spotted horse with horns and a 10 foot neck, a beetle that basically breathes fire from its ass, or whatever the hell an elephant is? I mean, the existance of *humans* is arguably more baffling of a concept than bigfoot/sasquatch.
The problem with Bigfoot is that much like spirits, cryptids, and ufos, it always leaves an endless trail of breadcrumbs to any undoubtful evidence of its existence. Gorillas and elephants are conventional animals who don't do that, which is why I suspect these things to be supernatural considering their size, where they've been sighted, this uncanny success rate of avoiding capture, and all the others things that have been reported in witness testimonies.
Assuming Bigfoot is a very real thing, we don't know if it's simply another conventional creature that you can just go out and make a Nat Geo documentary out of. For its size, the places it's allegedly been sighted, and uncanny success rate of leaving no definitive proof of its existence points to it potentially being something unnatural. Elephants, giraffes, gorillas, insects, and humans all leave traces of themselves that you can track with a variety of results. This is never the case with cryptids, and people should really start asking themselves why that is.
The PG film is a dead topic. It has been beaten to death. The face looks very fake when it faces the camera. As if a large cut out is over the area where the eyes should be. Possibly a hole to ventilate for an alleged man in a costume. It doesn't appear to be a real creature. Zero female hominids or primates exhibit a fully hair-covered face or hairy mammaries. I think there's a reason why only 13% of Americans believe in Bigfoot..
Debate for what? Understand that all the indigenous tribes around the world have oral tradition of their presence, I personally know as a Curyung Tribal Council member that our oral history is based on reality and it's the reason why we are still here ,there's no wasted words or bedtime stories our oral history is passed on by our elders relaying to us the dangers of our environment and the best hunting, fishing and winter or summer camps, we do not entertain fiction it's not our way, so when someone assumes our oral tradition is folklore or mythology they are actually dismissing the reality of our day to day lives and heritage, I personally take it as a personal insult to me and my elders and I will defend our honor to the death any time and place, I love and honor my heritage by passing along the exact same stories shared with me and modern examples of the reality of our world and the evidence is everywhere and yeah there's a ton of hoax bs however I don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, I know they exist because my eyes work lol
That’s because a small group of people have been allowed to make the world’s narrative as if they have empirical evidence on everything. These people didn’t believe in the mountain gorilla until THEY verified it. Why are we letting them control things?
All tribes- indigenous or not, also have wee folk like leprechauns and brownies. Even pygmies have tales of smaller folks, and NONE of them actually exist. Know what exists? Bad eyewitnesses and imagination.
How come "Bigfoot tracks" didn't exist until 1958 when Ray L Wallace began hoaxing tracks in Humboldt County as a prank to fool his logging crew? This is a huge red flag..
@@chrisd2051 Gorillas are not 9 ft tall and 1,000 lbs. Fakefoot supposedly is. In today's day and age with our dwindling forests and advanced surveillance capabilities, it should be very easy to find Fakefoot
@@chrisd2051 Gorillas are not 9 ft tall and 1,000 lbs like "Bigfoot". It should be very easy to find such a large animal with today's surveillance capabilities in our dwindling forests.👍🏼
One thing I have a hard time grasping, pertaining to the P-G Film, is the non-chalant way it just walks away. You would think a creature that is supposed to be so elusive would either scurry away quickly, or better yet, not come around in daylight at all.
Fantastic points. I think you had an encounter with a typical troll. He had nothing intelligent to say and a lot of anger, as you said. His credibility on the subject is 0. He's never been on a research project. He's given no proof of false allegations. I would love to hear him debate Jeff Meldrum. 😉 Great video!
Bigfoot and religion make non-believers angry. If you say you believe in the Loch Ness Monster, they may laugh at you. Say you believe in Bigfoot, and they verbally attack you. I find that odd.
When it comes to the Bible it says why people reject Jesus. Because he shines a light so bright he exposes all the dirt inside us. Even thought the true gospel is salvation by grace and faith alone and eternal security. Sealed forever once saved they will want nothing to do with Jesus. They don't want to want to let go of what they want
I would like to see more of this debate, it made me laugh. I love the way you presented your aggressor with that angry picture and humdrum scowling angry voice. 🤣
The great Panda was considered a myth and no scientists believed the stories. But it was at the time very difficult to track and find. Yet a woman went in and managed to track it and brought one back.
Right but we haven't caught a bigfoot yet have we? And until that happens I will remain a sceptic and so should you. Same thing with the gorilla. In the 1860 when Europeans first started exploring the west coast of Africa they heard stories gorillas resembling humans living in the woods and they dismissed these stories until one was captured. And yet with bigfoot believers the Patterson film is still the main piece of evidence that they hang their hats on and it's almost 60 years old now. During all this time technology has improved many many times over. We haven't found any hair samples or fecal matter to date. This is not very impressive.
I’m fully opened minded after hearing from fellow co-workers regarding finding footprints in the middle of nowhere. I worked for State wildlife agencies early in my career.
@Augie-r9q I believe because I choose to believe. I believe because I believe the thousands of testimonials I've read about and listened to since I was a child. Hope that answers your question.
@@missycitty9478 I don't believe because the lack of proof and the fact that in over 40 years of spending a lot of time in the wilderness I've never seen or heard anything that could be attributed to "Bigfoot".
Read up on Dr Ketchums DNA study and how she was well respected (used by courts and the FBI) then became blackballed after the study. There's been other DNA studies as well that have confirmed her findings. I've learned everyone is a skeptic until they have an experience.
I'd love to see a part 2. I'm pretty sure that guy was saying the same things about "evidence" in my comments. Totally discounting footprints, sightings, unknown hair and DNA samples, pics, and videos.... saying none of that stuff matters.
He sounds really similar to several "guys" I have encountered as well. They never seem to know the difference between testimony and anecdote, or the difference between evidence/proof.
I think it’s fake. The reason why being… how come we haven’t seen another footage of one? Why just the 67 footage? It’s been a long time, and I find it hard to believe that no one has gotten footage of once since then.
There's been lots of other decent footage, but Patterson was lucky and caught the whole body in daylight. A suit in daylight would be exposed immediately.
@@dannyhernandez265 Maybe patty was the last of her kind? maybe they died off, maybe they moved further into the wilderness? No one knows, But I have watched the Patterson footage for decades and there is just no way it can be faked, look at MK Davis on here and his break down of the film. Its 1967, it couldn't be done by 2 broke cowboys and no one has been able to recreate it?
@@dannyhernandez265 Hard to capture decent footage when encounters only last for a few seconds. Also, remember there's uncertainty and fear with filming an unknown creature.
The Brown Thermal from the Florida panhandle is the most convincing footage for me. It's been 12 years thermal cameras are cheap enough now where are all the copies...
I've been an outdoorsman for a large part of life, living in and working in several different forests in the US and several places abroad. I have honestly never seen, heard, smelled or felt anything that suggested of the existence of Bigfoot. Now, based on my own personal experience, I could easily say that this creature doesn't exist, but that doesn't incorporate having an open mind in my world view does it? Just the fact that so many humans from Native Americans and Daniel Boone to present day folks have stories would seem to suggest that something IS out there of a Bigfoot nature. Evidence exists but proof is still forthcoming. Honestly, I wish that it wasn't true as it means that I can never feel quite as at home in the forest as I always have. It hard to believe that the 'boogie man' is actually real until you have your own experience I guess.
I hear you. I've spent over 40 years camping, fishing, hiking and exploring remote wilderness and have never seen or heard anything that I would attribute to "Bigfoot". I believe it's just a myth.
I believe in people saying they have seen Bigfoot but i still want proof. I remember seeing a story about a man finding a mythical fish seen over 200 years ago. Imagine that. 200 years ago you see some crazy creatures but people say it's fake and goes down as a myth but it did exist and we didn't get proof until after everyone in that time had died. So i do believe these people but will we find a body in our lifetime?
What is your opinion on the Patterson bigfoot footage? Does it look like a real creature to you or someone in a cheap gorilla suit? It looks real to me
@alrivers2297 Looks very fake and it walks exactly like a human. The face mask in particular is very bad. There's obviously a large ventilation hole where the eyes should be. It just looks artificial all around..
I recently had a potential sighting. After hearing an ear piercing scream which sounded like a woman I shortly after caught some eyes on camera not high but around 5'. My buddy who has seen one thinks it was a juvenile. When I posted the video it got a lot of mixed comments about 50% thought It was, and the other half said cougar. I personally haven't seen one so I cant say I believe but I'm also not denying they could exist. This was in North Vancouver Island as well. After that experience I looked up bigfoot screams and stumbled upon your videos. This video was well put together thanks!
Thank you for sharing your experience, Harry! The details you provided are fascinating, and it’s always intriguing when potential encounters like yours are met with split opinions. Those piercing, woman-like screams are a hallmark in many documented Bigfoot cases and often hard to attribute to known animals like cougars, even though some suggest them as explanations. It’s interesting that your buddy, who has seen one, thought it might be a juvenile-that’s a detail worth exploring further. North Vancouver Island has had its share of unusual activity, so your experience fits well within the patterns seen in other reported encounters. I’m glad you stumbled upon my videos during your research, and thank you for the kind words about the content! Keep an open mind, and if you ever gather more footage or insights, I’d love to hear about them. Every piece of data contributes to understanding these elusive beings.
Not possible that they are thriving IMO. If they were then we would have definitive Scientific proof and their bones would be in a museum somewhere, like ours.
I highly doubt that. Go look up other Native folklore "creatures" such as "The Thunderbird". A giant raptor that shoots lightning bolts from it's eyes and creates thunder claps with each stroke of it's wings. Sorry, but I'm not buying it...
@@christopherwalkinalloverya5824 I did a video about the Thunderbird and some creatures from the past that fit the descriptions from some of the native stories... and drew the Quetzalcoatlus because it was definitely one of them.
I was disappointed to see that you included as background to the video a segment of last years Colorado train footage, showing a hoaxer in a suit in a hillside along the train tracks. When the point of the video is to say that Sasquatch is real and reports of Sasquatch sightings are credible, it weakens your video to include a fairly well-known hoaxed video.
I'm always amazed at how someone will invest so much energy arguing about something they think doesn't exist. I don't believe in Flat Earth Theory, but I won't waste a minute of my life on their videos arguing with them. But then again, I'm not an emotional adult, seeking attention.
Yes, this is a big puzzler. While there are people paid by the government/military to convince people that UFO's do not exist, I cannot see that happening for Sasquatch. I think the government just wants the whole idea to go away. I have no idea why deniers would waste any of their time trying to convince believers not to waste their time.
This skeptic must HATE, inter alia, the Jurassic Park movies. They completely guessed, other than bone structure, what those dinosaurs actually looked like. And they even changed the size of some dinosaurs for cinematic effect. The skeptic guy probably walks around museums mumbling curses like Yosemite Sam.
I think they are recreations of real existing fossilized bones. I imagine the bones are too fractured and heavy for display purposes, which makes me wonder if the scientists have the bones in the correct shape, or even the correct location.
@@bradhurd6097 Those bones aren't brittle. They're fossilized, so they're basically stone, hence why they survived millions of years. It seems that some US museums actually put out replicas for some skeletons, but that's certainly not enough to claim that all of them do it, Apparently, there are signs explaining whether those skeletons are real or not.
I believe some of the bones are actual fossils. Then they build the rest of the dinosaur around those found, based on assumptions made over time of study. Ultimately no one really knows what they looked like.
@@bradhurd6097 - This reminds me of how the Museum of Natural History in NYC had their T-Rex skeleton standing upright for decades, but now the bulk of its bones are horizontal to the ground (as scientists now believe this is how they walked most of the time, while standing perfectly upright was something they'd only do occasionally to get a better look over trees & such). When I was a kid I saw the T-Rex standing tall, but the last time I saw it (as an adult), it was positioned horizontally.
I don't know for sure if Sasquatch/bigfoot's exist there are some compelling pictures and video's but for each one that looks real there are a dozen or more that don't, the hoaxers certainly don't help to change the sceptics opinions, personally I am open minded about it and find it a very interesting topic, have watched a ton of video's, hopefully one day it will be proven one way or the other conclusively, cheers from Scotland.
I've never understood what's so hard to believe about the concept of sasquatch. Additionally, at this point, someone saying there is ZERO evidence of the existence of sasquatch has absolutely ZERO credibility on the subject as far as I'm concerned.
There are lots of clips here that I've not seen before. I would love a simple video on a loop of these bigfoot clips. I just think that even if they are blurry and at distance. The act of seeing them all together will show that there is something common to them all and that is that they are the same shape and importantly moving in exactly the same manner as each other. That's the thing I notice that the convincing ones all have the same smooth movement as each other.
The one thing I find really annoying, is there are people that absolutely will not say it’s possible. And on the other hand some people will tell you what you think doesn’t matter, they are experts. And claiming to be an expert, on something that isn’t recognized to exist, is odd. This should blow this guys mind, make him real angry. There is more than one in that video. More like 3 to 4. You need to check out MK Davis, and bigfoot central. They’re real, they have been around a long, long time. And there is a lot of evidence. Footprints, hair, very few real videos, photos, and fecal matter. And check out the close up face image of patty it’s crazy. Thanx for the video. And believing what you want to believe. Looking forward to your next video.
Thank you for such a supportive comment! I completely agree-it’s baffling how some people outright dismiss all possibilities while claiming expertise on something they don't even acknowledge exists. The evidence, as you mentioned, is compelling-footprints, hair samples, and even the rare videos like Patty are truly fascinating. I’ll definitely revisit MK Davis’ work and dig more into the details you suggested, like the close-up of Patty's face. It’s always great to hear from someone who’s equally passionate about exploring the evidence. Thank you for watching, and I appreciate your kind words about the video-stay tuned for more!
Strailian YOWIE here. Dude. I can't believe you wasted 3 days talking in circles like this. I can't believe I just listened to you both say the same thing differently over and over for 13min35secs. No winners, we have all lost something after this. And you humans wonder why we're elusive. We want no part of what humans have got goin on.
Is it? When different cultures and so many people across the globe are describing similar things, and have been for well over a hundred years? Gotta think, of all the testimonies (and there's alot) it only takes *one* legit sighting to toss any skepticism of these things out the window. That many people making this up or misidentifying would be crazier than Bigfoot being real.
Skeptics and believers are the same, just on opposite sides of the same coin. Both operate on blind devotion of belief to each their own brand of cult. Then there are those who've actually seen the beings, those are knowers. They are NOT believers and simply accept the reality of what they've seen as a natural part of this world, like the birds in the sky, fish in the stream. Even though I've never seen a sasquatch, myself, I'd rather be considered as one who accepts the reality of sasquatch existence, rather than the "Belief" of their existence. I accept they are real and let them be, no need to prove to skeptics or anyone else on earth that they're real. That's just me.
Sorry but sceptics will be willing to change their minds when presented with sufficient evidence. In this case of bf sufficient evidence would be to have an actual body where DNA samples can be taken. Anything short of that is insuffient. A cynict is one with blind devotion
Well, as a once firm believer who is now more of an agnostic regarding the whole question, I think this skeptical guy is just intolerant and downright rude, and that kind of behaviour is totally uncalled for. As for me, I'm not holding my breath that these creatures are gonna be proven to exist in my lifetime, but I'd sure love to see it happen.
Once all the trees are chopped down we'll know for sure! I'd prefer infrared,lidar drones over sighting areas. Hope it's not captured and put in a lab though
You make some good arguments, but then you used multiple hoaxed videos to produce this video. Whether someone believes Patty or not, we are in the same position over 50 years now.
Thank you for your comment, Nikki. I appreciate your thoughtful input. While I understand the frustration with hoaxed videos muddying the waters of Bigfoot research, I want to clarify that the inclusion of such videos in the production wasn’t meant to endorse them as definitive proof, but rather to examine and discuss their impact on the broader topic. Regarding being in the same position for over 50 years, I’d argue that while we haven’t achieved definitive proof, the accumulation of consistent patterns-such as track morphology, eyewitness testimonies, and audio recordings-adds to the intrigue and warrants further investigation. The existence of hoaxes doesn’t negate the possibility of authentic encounters, much like how counterfeit money doesn’t invalidate the existence of real currency. The debate around Bigfoot thrives on critical thinking and open dialogue like yours, so thank you for sharing your perspective!
@@dannyhernandez265 I'm deaf as s--t and even I can hear a drone way far off in the woods. Having better tech doesn't mean it's being directed appropriately, either. People are not good at using it for some reason, and I bet some people that are successful just do not share what they get, which I can sympathize with. I think another big part of this is that people (like me) who could help with increasing the odds for people with those resources aren't being asked or will not share. I have made observations about behavior in a location over multiple years but In this specific case I think they should be left alone (if I'm right.) On top of that tech requires manpower, and even mundane creatures are exponentially sensitive to the increase of humans in a wilderness area. So to make tech effective you'd need an overwhelming draw that keeps the animals in the area, like an extremely habituated human outpost located near an important seasonal food resource. You're asking good questions, I hope this comes across as helpful and respectful.
Nikki I had the same beef, but i think I understand and am ok with using it as visual narrative. There are some that I'm less ok with because they've been resurrected so many times like the swamp ape tree stump one. But overall I'm welcoming this guy's work.
@@cabininthewoods517 Good answer thanks. Also, I'm a believer in bigfoot, wholeheartedly, but I am a true skeptic of the evidence. I base my show on the facts and talk about the stuff most in the community don't like to talk about. Thanks for your time.
To those who think there is no evidence of the existence of the subject, either you have not seen or know of all the evidence or you are ignoring all of the evidence. Even if you read only 100 or more encounter reports you start to see correlations in context of these reports, as in while driving, camping, fishing, hiking, swimming, hunting etc. this includes many other things even at home, work or play! Time of day, night, time of year, season, spring summer, fall or winter, type of weather etc. Of course type of context you are engaged in as there are many types even taking the trash out! So after only 100 or so reports read you will start seeing correlations & the more reports you read the more correlations you will find, now your learning Sasquatch behavior patterns no doubt you’ll agree. When thinking of Sasquatch one must think outside the box for the creature has many abilities that we don’t understand & when we don’t understand something we think it’s fake! Then we make fun of others for jokes & laughs! Very immature & childish no doubt! When you see one it changes your life, when you’ve seen more than three it f@¥ks up your life. Not really but you’re always thinking what else was I told growing up is fake but very real!
@@cabininthewoods517 I suspect that while that would be interesting, the reality of going down that road would forever alienate bigfoot research further from the scientific community. However after seeing that predator pixelation cloaker video that Barb Shupe took, it does make you wonder.
Makes alot more sense tbh. I went into more detail explaining why this could be beyond the basic conventional theory in one reply but my comment kept getting deleted, yet all my other comments are fine... Ok.
I make this argument all the time, and i think its extremely valid when it comes to the Sasquatch topic. Look at the case of "Hiroo Onoda", He was the Japanese officer who hid out on a Filipino island for all most 30 years. He went un contact for decades, because he thought the war was still going on. Sure people had sightings of Onoda on the island, and many search parties went out looking for him over the long years, but ultimately he didnt want to be found, so no one could find him. Compare that to a Sasquatch. An animal that some believe has intellect of maybe an early human. Couldnt something like that stay hidden in Americas deep forests and swamps, hiding in the darkest couners of the world. Sasquatch stomping grounds are far bigger than some Filipino island.
The way you presented your argument was far more eloquently done than the skeptic, hahaha! Also, based on some of the comments I have read in this comment section, I guess some people with still side with the skeptic for reasons...
One thing that I notice is people will see a video and if the video is not the best quality, shaking or a little blurry they say it's fake. The same person will see a clear video and say it's too good and call it fake. The funny thing is that in a court of law video is enough to send you too prison. I know if big foot is real or not and I don't really care . But people are definitely seeing something. But I don't know what it is?
Fred in Alaska who has the podcast Subarctic Alaska Sasquatch, could to take this disbeliever to places that would absolutely change his beliefs about Sasquatch.
My old boss is the same. He heard about Ray Wallace's kids announcing he faked some prints in CA in the 50s. That was enough for him to conclude that it is all hoaxes. Being highly biologically strict, as I am too, he doesn't see the arguments. Some people are very skeptical and to the point of not investigating. My boss and I now no longer speak, he has no time for this kind of talk.
I do agree, however, that sightings and testimony are the WORST forms of evidence. They may be true, but without documentation, they are just anecdotal, not physical. I have enough physical evidence displayed to me to know they are a real, earth bound, natural species (being that NO supernatural anything, has ever been shown to exist). Multi dimensional beings is not something we have anything but stories about. I have to discount those until SOME inter-dimensional evidence proves there are more than the 4 dimensions we live in.
Another good video. Mr Skeptic was quite irrational. In a court of law, eye witness testimony is instrumental in convicting criminals. Part 2 would be good.
Boy,that guy needs a snickers candy bar! Maybe switch to de-caf ! I don’t know if they are real but, it’s plausible and hard to ignore so many reports! Its also fun to think Bigfoot is real!
the whole perceived reality is a hologram of illustrated information that the human mind labels "form" and information can change perception revealing deeper self created illusions based on an evolving definition process. No worse a blind person than the one who doesnt want to see
The fact of the matter is that the initial rung in the hypothetical ladder which leads us to empirical evidence has been satisfied. Credible reports over time. This is the criteria that's launched thousands of investigations resulting in the documentation of previously unknown species. To deny this reality is to be every bit as incorrect as people who believe without evidence. Reports from trained observers whose opinions are considered as fact in a court of law demands that we attempt to identify this potential species. Just the facts.
I’m just speculating here, but I think if Bigfoot actually is real its elusiveness is likely due to it having lived in Pleistocene North America and had to evade predators specializing in hunting megafauna like Saber-Toothed Cats, Dire Wolves, and of course later on humans. In fact, if we assume it crossed the land bridge into North America (it would’ve had too if it’s an ape) then they’ve been dealing with Saber-Tooths for millions of years, which is plenty of time for them to evolve very effective strategies for staying hidden.
That’s a fascinating theory, Danny, and it ties into some interesting ideas about survival and adaptation. If Bigfoot has been around since the Pleistocene, evading predators like saber-toothed cats and dire wolves would certainly pressure it to develop exceptional stealth and survival strategies. The notion of an elusive species persisting across millennia also lines up with how other species adapt to extreme environments or threats. The idea that Bigfoot crossed the land bridge and inherited these survival instincts adds another layer of plausibility to its evasiveness in modern times. Thanks for sharing your perspective-it’s definitely thought-provoking!
@@cabininthewoods517thanks for the response! I’ll take this a step further by saying that the elusiveness adaptation might have predated the arrival of Bigfoot’s lineage to North America. I will point out that the fossil record tells us that Eurasia was a massive hub for apes during the Miocene epoch, and if we are to believe the stories of other Bigfoot-like creatures in Eurasia (Yeti, Yeren and Almas) it made sense to me that Bigfoot’s origins were somewhere in Eurasia. These possible relatives of Bigfoot seem to be just as elusive, and Saber-Toothed Cats also had a presence in Eurasia for the last 20 million years (to say nothing of the Pantherine cats that live today and also probably hunted apes). Bigfoot’s size may have been selected for to ward off these predators, only for the predators to evolve larger sizes themselves and larger teeth to boot. Idk I just think “Ice Age Bigfoot” is a very fun idea that I wish was discussed more. It doesn’t even seem that out of place alongside what we know existed in that time.
Are there not plenty of things for which we know to be real but we do not have physical evidence? Like, most things in the cosmos for example. Do we have physical proof of Alpha Centauri? I doubt it. Would this BF skeptic say it doesn't exist because all we have is eyewitness and photographic evidence? What about black holes? Physical evidence is nice, but it isn't the only determining factor when it comes to science. I believe even gravity still remains a theory, but I'm pretty comfortable saying it exists.
So, Objective and Logical video! The Only thing that I can tell you - Thank God your channel is related to Bigfoot and Not Aliens and UFOs, because Then you See what we call BACKLASH!!! 😂😂😂 Off-topic - what is the name/brand/model/type of your hat, and what keywords to use to find it? In my country, Bulgaria, practically Nobody wears this type of hat and we know it only from Indiana Jones movies or so! In the Canadian wilderness, it seems like an Amazing choice! ☺☺☺
Thanks for the comment and for watching! Agreed-you’d need a very thick skin to tackle aliens! My hat is made by a company called Rogue. www.rogueoriginal.com/products/rogue-original-hat?srsltid=AfmBOoqNLR7f_E_RUigtfqE4n7B3PqDxKdz2tRsJcntDdY1scuPc_dD3
yeah when they start start off wielding the word "logic" (incorrectly) as a baton you know you're engaged with someone who actually has no information. As in, when you tell people saying the word over and over again doesn't actually mean you're being logical or even know what it is, they tend to not take it well. Even if they're actually right I tend to go after these people. (If you look closely at their language there's often indications that it's either a bot or a non-english speaker practicing talking smack for their own edification.) At the same time I also have a hard time with bigfooters with their logical reasoning. Example: A tree limb stabbed into the ground isn't evidence of anything other than a tree limb stabbed into the ground unless you can prove that it doesn't naturally occur (which it does.) Even if you prove something doesn't naturally occur it is still illogical to say "therefore fill-in-the-blank-creature did it" without examining alternatives AND proving that it's in fact something bigfoots do. I believe bigfoots do make popping noises in the wild based on my own experience, but I also know that hearing popping noises does not prove that bigfoots are around, because it also happens naturally. With squatchers there's a WHOLE LOT of "since we know x, then y is true also" when not only is that not how reasoning works, but we do not have the correct ground work to directly correlate bigfoots with x. As in, apes may sometimes make springpoles out of young hardwoods, and they may arrange deadfall to create game funnels in the forest. But also we know that natural conditions and raw odds will occasionally make deliberate-looking formations of these very mundane things. TLDR: twigs and limbs and springpoles are not "logical" proof that bigfoots are spending the winter just off the 7th green at your local muni golf course. In fact it's not even evidence.
Is "Dr. Tard" a scientific term? The reasons i doubt Patty existed are as follows: 1. The person who filmed the video published a book a year prior, featuring a photo o a female bigfoot similarly gifted in the chest area as Patty, crossing a river bank in the same gait and pose, with a fallen tree between human and cryptid. 2. Apparently the person who filmed it was filming a documentary about bigfoot, or something of that sorts. 3. The person who claims to have made the suit has explanation of most, if not all points, believer point at for why it can not be a man in a suit, the way its muscles move is apparently due to hanging plates under the suit, the length of the forearms can be replicated with hand extensions, while the shoulder plates compensate for the upper arm's length. 4. Multiple people have demonstrated the gait, including the heel rise.
The term "Professor Tardo" isn't one I’d ever use, as I prefer to keep discussions respectful and evidence-based. 1. Regarding the claim that Roger Patterson's book featured a photo of a female Bigfoot: The illustration in Patterson's book was an artist's depiction, not evidence of prior hoaxing. It shows a conceptualized Bigfoot and doesn't resemble the specific proportions or gait of Patty, as seen in the PGF. The suggestion that Patterson planned or staged this based on a book drawing is speculative and unsupported by evidence. 2. Patterson was indeed interested in making a Bigfoot documentary, but enthusiasm for a subject doesn’t disqualify someone from capturing real evidence. Many wildlife documentarians spend years pursuing elusive species before finally documenting them. 3. The claim about the suit maker explaining it all (likely Bob Heironimus) has been debunked thoroughly. Heironimus has repeatedly changed his story and failed to produce the suit or evidence of his involvement. The movement of Patty’s muscles, her proportions, and anatomical accuracy exceed what 1967 technology (or even modern suits) can replicate. Hanging plates and other explanations don't account for details like the muscle contractions seen under the skin or her extended limb ratios, which remain anatomically consistent with a non-human primate. 4. While some have attempted to mimic Patty’s gait and heel rise, none have replicated it convincingly. The biomechanics in the PGF film display natural movement consistent with a heavy, large primate-not an actor in a costume. Furthermore, the proportions (e.g., arm length relative to height) differ significantly from human anatomy, making replication without significant CGI or prosthetics impractical. I hope this clears up some common misconceptions about the PGF. 🙂
@@cabininthewoods517 1. I can not agree, if you take them side to side they both walk in the same manner and have the same stance, both gifted around the chest. The artist, if they did not see the creature, would likely struggle to replicate the stance. But it is possible, and the odds of a person encountering a bigfoot meeting a female bigfoot are likely fifty fifty. So the chest and gait and pose may that, even tho they are still suspiciously similar, as if the video was filmed based on them. The crossing of the river, alright, river banks are open areas. Its more likely to see an animal when it is crossing open ground. And there are fallen trees in river banks. But the tree between the observer and the cryptid, combined with all those factors? This is very suspicious. So i can not agree that they are not similar, they are virtually identical, i would have though its an illustration of Patty had it not been pubished a year prior. Patterson did seem to have athing for female sasquatch. Patterson DID illustrate it. Based on an illustration by Morton Kunstler, whose illustration is stunning. It does not matter if Patterson did it tho, as my argument is it could have inspired his footage. 2. I agree, but they also claimed that they were out filming the fall colors. Its not proof against it, but it is an eyebrow riser. 3. I do not consider it debunked, can you point at some inconsistencies in his story? He did show a suit. Virtually identical to Patty. Multiple in fact, some better than others. The one on his lap, where he is sitting down, seems amazingly crafted. How come it can not replicate it? Arm extensions are something i could make in 20 seconds with duct tape and a pair of timber spoons. I am not sure one can see contractions on a footage this blurry, i barey see the movement of muscles and i have stared at this footage for quite awhile. It does not help how people sometimes measure the limbs sasquatch suspects from way different point than they do for humans they compare them with. 4. What would you consider "convincing?" Humans are a heavy large primate, what would you consider this to mean? I have seen people move in the same manner. Like i said, arm extensions can be made, the shoulder plates can compensate for the longer forearm, and measurements are not always taken well on the actual footage. I am looking for a Bigfoot video that seems to have gone missing, it features a bigfoot walking infront fo a camping tent, its filmed from inside the tent by a camera that is static and not hand held, its in night vidion, i believe gray, it has a comparison with two people walking down the same path, it shows the top of the creature, it reveals skin under the fur. Do you happen to know what it is called, and where one can find it? 🙂
@@davidnorwich3771 I do, but its hard to tell what is a bulging thigh muscle and what a blur, as even that version is not HD by any means. One of the things going For Patty is the fact that the video was supposed to be very low quality, the suit holding up to modern technological enhancement is unlikely to have been something considered by Roger.
All the evidence has been taken no need to prove they are real. The real question is what are they and what can they all do. DNA says Mother Human Father unknown or the other way around I can't remember off hand. If they weren't real why would some states make laws against killing them? I think Washington is one of them and I think there might be a couple more states who made laws to protect them. If you shot one you will be charged for it. There are many different colors of them just like Humans. All the work has been done already for as far as DNA and footprints 👣 and pictures/ videos. You have to be brain dead not to realize they are real. They have families just like us and we don't need a body to prove to anyone they are real. Why kill something just to say it's real.
It's really simple I've never seen him before so he didn't exist. Does that make sense no. I have seen him twice. I'm not a liar.And there's is physical proof and DNA. 👍💯👣👣👣👣👣
Do any of these Bigfoot believers understand just how much a Bigfoot would have to eat every day? A large gorilla, living in a tropical climate eats up to 75 lbs. of food a day. By all reports, a Bigfoot is considerably larger than a gorilla, so what would it have to eat in winter? 100 lbs of food/day? There would be shit absolutely everywhere, and we'd have undeniable genetic proof of Bigfoot's existence. But no, not even the tiniest little bigfoot turd had ever been collected.
The well-worn arguments you present assume Bigfoot has the exact metabolic needs and ecological behavior of a gorilla, which isn’t necessarily accurate. Many eyewitnesses report behaviors suggesting Bigfoot could be omnivorous, relying on a mix of seasonal vegetation, animal protein, and even stored fat reserves during harsh winters. These adaptive traits are seen in other large mammals surviving in challenging climates. As for scat and other physical evidence, it’s worth noting that even in ecosystems teeming with known predators, feces attributed to specific animals-especially elusive ones-are rarely identified without targeted study. That said, researchers *do* have hair, skin, blood, and saliva samples that point to an unknown primate species, based on DNA analysis. While these samples are debated, they provide compelling biological evidence that can’t be dismissed outright. The absence of "genetic proof" also doesn't invalidate eyewitness testimony, track evidence, or other findings. Many species evaded scientific discovery until relatively recent times despite being "everywhere" to indigenous peoples or local witnesses. Science often lags behind what people in the field observe.
Hello again how are you and your family hope all is well? You know I used to entertain debating people on this subject and ever since I saw with my own two eyes that these things are real I put that debate to rest I'm going to go out and I'm just going to say the way I feel it that I feel the government doesn't want these things to be documented because if they are then all the resources they have to put aside to protect and conserve landform and also to keep human safe from them as well so it would hit our country economically very hardly the same up as up in Canada and wherever else I mean I've heard stories of people finding dead ones or shooting and killing these things and a few days later the government coming in threatened him and taking the body away it's it's rumored I don't have proved or just stories and I get that but where there's smoke there's fire also you know I have my face that I've had all my life I believe in God I believe in Jesus Christ I'm a Christian and just because I don't see them doesn't mean that they're not real so like I said ever since 2016 when I had my encounterI am an hour okay I was just wondering because in that instance when I had my encounter my whole life being in these woods in the pine barrens or New Jersey you know camping hunting fishing you know I've heard and saw a lot of strange things that I couldn't quit any animals but I still didn't you know believe that they were there I mean I know about the time but you know I was like any normal teenager pursuing a career in women in how to get a family and eventually settle down anyway keep up the great work love the channel take care and God bless
Thank you for sharing your story and thoughtful insights. It’s always powerful to hear from someone who has had a firsthand experience-they carry a level of authenticity that’s hard to dismiss. Your point about potential government involvement and the implications of officially recognizing these beings is something many people in this field have speculated on. It makes sense that such a discovery would have wide-reaching consequences for conservation, safety, and even economic systems. I appreciate your grounded perspective-balancing your faith, experiences, and the things you've encountered over the years. The Pine Barrens and similar areas seem to hold so much mystery, and it's fascinating to hear about what you've seen and heard there. Thank you for your kind words about the channel as well; they mean a lot. I’ll keep striving to bring thought-provoking content for viewers like you. Take care, and God bless!
It takes a special kind of loser to waste such a finite resource and time arguing that something they don't believe in doesn't exist. I dont believe in flat earth theory or leprechauns but you won't find me on flat earth/leprechaun forums or spaces arguing with anyone about it lol
Yes let's have part foil I mean 2. I'm sure you confronted him with trace evidence examined by professionals and DNA hair sample and the like. Tested by unbiased labs and the methods used by these labs. It may not make a difference. The duck bill platypus was considered fake even as the body of one laid on a lab table ready for disection.
@renekuskchristensen2182I’m not sure exactly what you’re referring to, but thanks for the support. I’m quite ok with people having a negative view of me. 🙂
I doubt Bigfoot exists but I can't stand angry skeptics. Ok, you don't believe in Bigfoot. Does it matter what *YOU* believe or disbelieve? You don't like hearing Bigfoot stories? Don't listen then. Go find something useful to do.
Wonderful. I have "debates" with folks like this gold nugget you found as well. I applaud your patience and eloquence. Edit : My other account... ruclips.net/video/ViawbmdpKqQ/видео.htmlsi=l2-NHUJxzs9LD9dr
Only in America 😂😂😂 The USA is a very young country and has very little modern history compared to the rest of the world.its Hollywood syndrome nothing more
Interesting perspective! That said, I’m Canadian. To say nothing of the many other countries around the world with long histories of Sasquatch sightings and evidence. 🙂
In my experience, anyone who uses the word "bro" in a debate has no clue what they're talking about & has no scientific credentials, whatsoever. They're just a narcissist trying to feed their egos by arguing online because no one in their lives listens to them.
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I don't believe in bigfoot either, but dismissing testimony from people is a ridiculous argument to say they aren't real. There are people serving time in jail based on "testimony" from people.
Excellent point!
As someone who didn't used to "believe in Bigfoot", I can guarantee you they're very real. I used to mock the entire idea, and anyone who "believed in it", which is the average go-to response to something that seems so absurd. But after seeing a few, finding tracks, hearing vocalizations, and returning to trails I had made to find them marked with stones, it's impossible now for me to think otherwise; they're out there.
I don't think they're animals, though; not in the, "deer, rabbit, squirrel, coyote," sense of the word. They seem to be a people, and they're very aware and highly curious, but if they know you've seen them or you frequent an area they've claimed, they get very territorial - might even follow you home.
I don't spend anywhere near the amount of time in the forest as I used to - the woods around here have gotten smaller and smaller over time with housing developments, and I've moved to the city and work too often - and as a result I haven't had an encounter in a decade. But I'm sure they're still around. I wouldn't worry too much about them; if you leave them alone, odds are they'll do the same. It's the dogmen that I'd worry about; those, I have no idea if they exist or not, but too many people around here have ran into them for it all to be nothing.
Do some research. Eye witness testimony is some of the most unreliable forms of "evidence" But it still amazes me that a 60 year old piece of film and eye witness testimony is still what bf believers have to go on for the most part.
@@Augie-r9q
Hundreds of foot prints
Audio recordings that cannot be linked to any known species
Wood knocking and other auditory clues
And the fact that you so easily dismiss the PG film. That film has been analyzed, so much that many scientists have not been able to
Which is why most courts give little credence to eyewitnes accts.
The skeptic guy is an ass, but stripped of all the mockery, he is still correct, more so than the OP. Look at the original PG film vs the blown up and AI altered new versions. You simply cannot blow up a film image and GAIN more info. Go watch the Antonioni film Blowup. AI altered film is also worthless. Decades of folks pointing out that the feet were bootlike, that the glutes did not move and there was no asscrack, and them AI comes and suddenly we see that, and toes and a face. The PG film in the original, is easily seen as a suit, but w all the AI and tweaks it is now worthless as evidence. If the Zaprude rfilm were as altered as the PG film we'd be seeing UFOs taking shots at JFK!
Two minutes in and it’s clear that this person isn’t an actual skeptic. They’re barely a cynic. More appropriately, they are more accurately simply a troll.
Or perhaps cabin in the woods is strawmanning him
@@dsbmitchell Skeptic or cynic, no matter. There's still zero proof.🤷♂️
Lets be real guys, is a really big ape on two legs all that harder to grasp than a spotted horse with horns and a 10 foot neck, a beetle that basically breathes fire from its ass, or whatever the hell an elephant is?
I mean, the existance of *humans* is arguably more baffling of a concept than bigfoot/sasquatch.
Good way of putting it! 🙂
But we have tangible evidence for humans which we don't have for bf
The problem with Bigfoot is that much like spirits, cryptids, and ufos, it always leaves an endless trail of breadcrumbs to any undoubtful evidence of its existence. Gorillas and elephants are conventional animals who don't do that, which is why I suspect these things to be supernatural considering their size, where they've been sighted, this uncanny success rate of avoiding capture, and all the others things that have been reported in witness testimonies.
@@Augie-r9qwe might- bf could be a large version of hominid already discovered.
Assuming Bigfoot is a very real thing, we don't know if it's simply another conventional creature that you can just go out and make a Nat Geo documentary out of. For its size, the places it's allegedly been sighted, and uncanny success rate of leaving no definitive proof of its existence points to it potentially being something unnatural. Elephants, giraffes, gorillas, insects, and humans all leave traces of themselves that you can track with a variety of results. This is never the case with cryptids, and people should really start asking themselves why that is.
Would love to hear a part 2 where you discuss the Patterson Gimlin Bluff Creek encounter of 1967.
Noted! 🙂
The PG film is a dead topic. It has been beaten to death. The face looks very fake when it faces the camera. As if a large cut out is over the area where the eyes should be. Possibly a hole to ventilate for an alleged man in a costume. It doesn't appear to be a real creature. Zero female hominids or primates exhibit a fully hair-covered face or hairy mammaries. I think there's a reason why only 13% of Americans believe in Bigfoot..
@@cabininthewoods517 If the Patterson/Gimlin video turn out to be fake would you then stop believing in Bigfoot ?
Debate for what? Understand that all the indigenous tribes around the world have oral tradition of their presence, I personally know as a Curyung Tribal Council member that our oral history is based on reality and it's the reason why we are still here ,there's no wasted words or bedtime stories our oral history is passed on by our elders relaying to us the dangers of our environment and the best hunting, fishing and winter or summer camps, we do not entertain fiction it's not our way, so when someone assumes our oral tradition is folklore or mythology they are actually dismissing the reality of our day to day lives and heritage, I personally take it as a personal insult to me and my elders and I will defend our honor to the death any time and place, I love and honor my heritage by passing along the exact same stories shared with me and modern examples of the reality of our world and the evidence is everywhere and yeah there's a ton of hoax bs however I don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, I know they exist because my eyes work lol
That’s because a small group of people have been allowed to make the world’s narrative as if they have empirical evidence on everything. These people didn’t believe in the mountain gorilla until THEY verified it. Why are we letting them control things?
Having the Christ is King mentality and believing in Native American Bigfoot stories doesn't go hand in hand.
All tribes- indigenous or not, also have wee folk like leprechauns and brownies. Even pygmies have tales of smaller folks, and NONE of them actually exist.
Know what exists? Bad eyewitnesses and imagination.
Based on this guys argument the gorilla didn't exist until 1902.
The forefathers of all of todays gorillas spontaneously materialized at exactly midnight, January 1st 1902.
How come "Bigfoot tracks" didn't exist until 1958 when Ray L Wallace began hoaxing tracks in Humboldt County as a prank to fool his logging crew? This is a huge red flag..
Different times and much less people
@@chrisd2051 Gorillas are not 9 ft tall and 1,000 lbs. Fakefoot supposedly is. In today's day and age with our dwindling forests and advanced surveillance capabilities, it should be very easy to find Fakefoot
@@chrisd2051 Gorillas are not 9 ft tall and 1,000 lbs like "Bigfoot". It should be very easy to find such a large animal with today's surveillance capabilities in our dwindling forests.👍🏼
One thing I have a hard time grasping, pertaining to the P-G Film, is the non-chalant way it just walks away. You would think a creature that is supposed to be so elusive would either scurry away quickly, or better yet, not come around in daylight at all.
Patterson got lucky and caught a female out in the open before she got to cover.
Fantastic points. I think you had an encounter with a typical troll. He had nothing intelligent to say and a lot of anger, as you said. His credibility on the subject is 0. He's never been on a research project. He's given no proof of false allegations. I would love to hear him debate Jeff Meldrum. 😉 Great video!
Thanks for the encouragement and for watching. 🙂
Bigfoot and religion make non-believers angry. If you say you believe in the Loch Ness Monster, they may laugh at you. Say you believe in Bigfoot, and they verbally attack you. I find that odd.
Odd indeed. Perhaps the prospect of a massive shift in worldview is frightening to them, and fear often breeds anger.
When it comes to the Bible it says why people reject Jesus. Because he shines a light so bright he exposes all the dirt inside us. Even thought the true gospel is salvation by grace and faith alone and eternal security. Sealed forever once saved they will want nothing to do with Jesus. They don't want to want to let go of what they want
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@@xfilesseasonteneponeandsix8346I don’t believe in that respectfully.
Because the thought of these things being out and about frightens them more.
I would like to see more of this debate, it made me laugh. I love the way you presented your aggressor with that angry picture and humdrum scowling angry voice. 🤣
Noted! Thanks for the encouragement. 🙂 As for the voice, that’s exactly how he sounded in my head haha.
Yah it definitely was a straw man attempt to characterize him as a grumpy curmudgeon
The great Panda was considered a myth and no scientists believed the stories. But it was at the time very difficult to track and find. Yet a woman went in and managed to track it and brought one back.
Absolutely correct. 🙂
Right but we haven't caught a bigfoot yet have we? And until that happens I will remain a sceptic and so should you. Same thing with the gorilla. In the 1860 when Europeans first started exploring the west coast of Africa they heard stories gorillas resembling humans living in the woods and they dismissed these stories until one was captured. And yet with bigfoot believers the Patterson film is still the main piece of evidence that they hang their hats on and it's almost 60 years old now. During all this time technology has improved many many times over. We haven't found any hair samples or fecal matter to date. This is not very impressive.
I’m fully opened minded after hearing from fellow co-workers regarding finding footprints in the middle of nowhere. I worked for State wildlife agencies early in my career.
I applaud your open-mindedness! 🙂
I am a believer, however, because I've never seen one, I can't say for sure they exist.
That is why I'd never argue the case.
That’s fair and perfectly reasonable. 🙂 Prior to seeing one (and possibly more than one) a couple months ago, I felt similarly.
@cabininthewoods517 😉👍
I love that you saw one!!
And envious tbh!
If you can't say for they exist then why do believe?
@Augie-r9q I believe because I choose to believe. I believe because I believe the thousands of testimonials I've read about and listened to since I was a child.
Hope that answers your question.
@@missycitty9478 I don't believe because the lack of proof and the fact that in over 40 years of spending a lot of time in the wilderness I've never seen or heard anything that could be attributed to "Bigfoot".
Read up on Dr Ketchums DNA study and how she was well respected (used by courts and the FBI) then became blackballed after the study. There's been other DNA studies as well that have confirmed her findings.
I've learned everyone is a skeptic until they have an experience.
Thanks for the insightful comment! I’m a big fan of fan of Dr. Ketchum’s work, and even had the privilege of speaking with her personally. 🙂
Admittedly, her data and conclusions seem suspect.
Just finished watching all your sasquatch videos minutes ago and then see that this was uploaded an hour ago. Great timing! I feel catered to
Glad you’re enjoying! Thanks for your interest and support. 🙂
I'd love to see a part 2. I'm pretty sure that guy was saying the same things about "evidence" in my comments. Totally discounting footprints, sightings, unknown hair and DNA samples, pics, and videos.... saying none of that stuff matters.
Could well have been the same charming gentleman! 🙂
What DNA samples are there specifically that point to a completely new unknown humanoid species?
He sounds really similar to several "guys" I have encountered as well. They never seem to know the difference between testimony and anecdote, or the difference between evidence/proof.
11.41 Angry skeptic - "Now go curl up in the feotal position and pout." 😄😄😄😄
That one had me laughing too. 😂
Well done brother! Your calm logic alone is a win.
I believe the Patterson and the freeman footage are real.
I agree with you.
I think it’s fake. The reason why being… how come we haven’t seen another footage of one? Why just the 67 footage? It’s been a long time, and I find it hard to believe that no one has gotten footage of once since then.
There's been lots of other decent footage, but Patterson was lucky and caught the whole body in daylight. A suit in daylight would be exposed immediately.
@@dannyhernandez265 Maybe patty was the last of her kind? maybe they died off, maybe they moved further into the wilderness? No one knows, But I have watched the Patterson footage for decades and there is just no way it can be faked, look at MK Davis on here and his break down of the film. Its 1967, it couldn't be done by 2 broke cowboys and no one has been able to recreate it?
@@dannyhernandez265 Hard to capture decent footage when encounters only last for a few seconds. Also, remember there's uncertainty and fear with filming an unknown creature.
The Brown Thermal from the Florida panhandle is the most convincing footage for me. It's been 12 years thermal cameras are cheap enough now where are all the copies...
Like Patterson, brown was out there and lucked out.
I've been an outdoorsman for a large part of life, living in and working in several different forests in the US and several places abroad. I have honestly never seen, heard, smelled or felt anything that suggested of the existence of Bigfoot.
Now, based on my own personal experience, I could easily say that this creature doesn't exist, but that doesn't incorporate having an open mind in my world view does it?
Just the fact that so many humans from Native Americans and Daniel Boone to present day folks have stories would seem to suggest that something IS out there of a Bigfoot nature.
Evidence exists but proof is still forthcoming. Honestly, I wish that it wasn't true as it means that I can never feel quite as at home in the forest as I always have. It hard to believe that the 'boogie man' is actually real until you have your own experience I guess.
I hear you. I've spent over 40 years camping, fishing, hiking and exploring remote wilderness and have never seen or heard anything that I would attribute to "Bigfoot". I believe it's just a myth.
I believe in people saying they have seen Bigfoot but i still want proof. I remember seeing a story about a man finding a mythical fish seen over 200 years ago. Imagine that. 200 years ago you see some crazy creatures but people say it's fake and goes down as a myth but it did exist and we didn't get proof until after everyone in that time had died. So i do believe these people but will we find a body in our lifetime?
What is your opinion on the Patterson bigfoot footage? Does it look like a real creature to you or someone in a cheap gorilla suit? It looks real to me
@alrivers2297 Looks very fake and it walks exactly like a human. The face mask in particular is very bad. There's obviously a large ventilation hole where the eyes should be. It just looks artificial all around..
I recently had a potential sighting. After hearing an ear piercing scream which sounded like a woman I shortly after caught some eyes on camera not high but around 5'. My buddy who has seen one thinks it was a juvenile. When I posted the video it got a lot of mixed comments about 50% thought It was, and the other half said cougar. I personally haven't seen one so I cant say I believe but I'm also not denying they could exist. This was in North Vancouver Island as well. After that experience I looked up bigfoot screams and stumbled upon your videos. This video was well put together thanks!
Thank you for sharing your experience, Harry! The details you provided are fascinating, and it’s always intriguing when potential encounters like yours are met with split opinions. Those piercing, woman-like screams are a hallmark in many documented Bigfoot cases and often hard to attribute to known animals like cougars, even though some suggest them as explanations.
It’s interesting that your buddy, who has seen one, thought it might be a juvenile-that’s a detail worth exploring further. North Vancouver Island has had its share of unusual activity, so your experience fits well within the patterns seen in other reported encounters.
I’m glad you stumbled upon my videos during your research, and thank you for the kind words about the content! Keep an open mind, and if you ever gather more footage or insights, I’d love to hear about them. Every piece of data contributes to understanding these elusive beings.
Sasquatch tribes don't just exist, they thrive!!
BMO! Yeah man! BMO is a great artist and has drawn a bunch of them based on descriptions on his channel.
@@ricknovak5308 Oh Hey! Thanks!
Not possible that they are thriving IMO. If they were then we would have definitive Scientific proof and their bones would be in a museum somewhere, like ours.
I highly doubt that. Go look up other Native folklore "creatures" such as "The Thunderbird". A giant raptor that shoots lightning bolts from it's eyes and creates thunder claps with each stroke of it's wings. Sorry, but I'm not buying it...
@@christopherwalkinalloverya5824 I did a video about the Thunderbird and some creatures from the past that fit the descriptions from some of the native stories... and drew the Quetzalcoatlus because it was definitely one of them.
I was disappointed to see that you included as background to the video a segment of last years Colorado train footage, showing a hoaxer in a suit in a hillside along the train tracks. When the point of the video is to say that Sasquatch is real and reports of Sasquatch sightings are credible, it weakens your video to include a fairly well-known hoaxed video.
There were many proven hoaxed videos used. And I have to agree, it took the steam out of the main point. But I understand his points.
Sorry to disappoint you!
I was disappointed I watched this.
was that one proven as a hoax?
Can you post a link to this hoax being exposed?
I'm always amazed at how someone will invest so much energy arguing about something they think doesn't exist. I don't believe in Flat Earth Theory, but I won't waste a minute of my life on their videos arguing with them. But then again, I'm not an emotional adult, seeking attention.
Takes all types to make a world I guess. 🙂
The earth isn't flat but i like to say so. I want to see if people are stupid or not.
Yes, this is a big puzzler. While there are people paid by the government/military to convince people that UFO's do not exist, I cannot see that happening for Sasquatch. I think the government just wants the whole idea to go away. I have no idea why deniers would waste any of their time trying to convince believers not to waste their time.
This skeptic must HATE, inter alia, the Jurassic Park movies. They completely guessed, other than bone structure, what those dinosaurs actually looked like. And they even changed the size of some dinosaurs for cinematic effect. The skeptic guy probably walks around museums mumbling curses like Yosemite Sam.
Science never dismissed the idea of the giant squid.
I'm a skeptic. I would need more concrete proof, something more physical for me. But I still can't claim to know for sure.
That’s what I’d call healthy skepticism. Quite a different sort than the gentleman in my video. Thanks for the comment! 🙂
Fun fact: The Dinosaur skeletons that you see in the museums aren't even real bones, but mere recreations. Great video, btw
Source?
I think they are recreations of real existing fossilized bones. I imagine the bones are too fractured and heavy for display purposes, which makes me wonder if the scientists have the bones in the correct shape, or even the correct location.
@@bradhurd6097 Those bones aren't brittle. They're fossilized, so they're basically stone, hence why they survived millions of years.
It seems that some US museums actually put out replicas for some skeletons, but that's certainly not enough to claim that all of them do it, Apparently, there are signs explaining whether those skeletons are real or not.
I believe some of the bones are actual fossils. Then they build the rest of the dinosaur around those found, based on assumptions made over time of study. Ultimately no one really knows what they looked like.
@@bradhurd6097 - This reminds me of how the Museum of Natural History in NYC had their T-Rex skeleton standing upright for decades, but now the bulk of its bones are horizontal to the ground (as scientists now believe this is how they walked most of the time, while standing perfectly upright was something they'd only do occasionally to get a better look over trees & such). When I was a kid I saw the T-Rex standing tall, but the last time I saw it (as an adult), it was positioned horizontally.
Given the physical evidence and the sightings by credible people, I think they are real creatures.
I agree!
Then why hasn't the scientific community find any of this evidence sufficient. They don't.
@@Augie-r9qtoo mind blowing.
You make good arguments to support your case in this vid... Well done😊👍😉
Well thank you. The main thing is to stay calm. 🙂
I don't know for sure if Sasquatch/bigfoot's exist there are some compelling pictures and video's but for each one that looks real there are a dozen or more that don't, the hoaxers certainly don't help to change the sceptics opinions, personally I am open minded about it and find it a very interesting topic, have watched a ton of video's, hopefully one day it will be proven one way or the other conclusively, cheers from Scotland.
Thanks for the thoughtful comment! I appreciate your open-mindedness. 🙂
I've never understood what's so hard to believe about the concept of sasquatch. Additionally, at this point, someone saying there is ZERO evidence of the existence of sasquatch has absolutely ZERO credibility on the subject as far as I'm concerned.
The "evidence" is weak. It's the lack of proof that is most concerning. The Earth has been around for 5 billion years and still NO proof of "Bigfoot".
The Gold Standard of Bigfoot footage.
What is?
@@cabininthewoods517The Patterson-Gimlin film.
You can ask someone to think outside the box, but first they need to understand that the box is there.
Bigfoot Skeptics are embarrassing at a certain point… the mid tarsal break proves everything..
The mid-tarsal break is certainly highly suggestive! 🙂
There are lots of clips here that I've not seen before. I would love a simple video on a loop of these bigfoot clips. I just think that even if they are blurry and at distance. The act of seeing them all together will show that there is something common to them all and that is that they are the same shape and importantly moving in exactly the same manner as each other. That's the thing I notice that the convincing ones all have the same smooth movement as each other.
The one thing I find really annoying, is there are people that absolutely will not say it’s possible. And on the other hand some people will tell you what you think doesn’t matter, they are experts. And claiming to be an expert, on something that isn’t recognized to exist, is odd. This should blow this guys mind, make him real angry. There is more than one in that video. More like 3 to 4. You need to check out MK Davis, and bigfoot central. They’re real, they have been around a long, long time. And there is a lot of evidence. Footprints, hair, very few real videos, photos, and fecal matter. And check out the close up face image of patty it’s crazy. Thanx for the video. And believing what you want to believe. Looking forward to your next video.
Thank you for such a supportive comment! I completely agree-it’s baffling how some people outright dismiss all possibilities while claiming expertise on something they don't even acknowledge exists. The evidence, as you mentioned, is compelling-footprints, hair samples, and even the rare videos like Patty are truly fascinating. I’ll definitely revisit MK Davis’ work and dig more into the details you suggested, like the close-up of Patty's face. It’s always great to hear from someone who’s equally passionate about exploring the evidence. Thank you for watching, and I appreciate your kind words about the video-stay tuned for more!
Strailian YOWIE here. Dude. I can't believe you wasted 3 days talking in circles like this. I can't believe I just listened to you both say the same thing differently over and over for 13min35secs. No winners, we have all lost something after this. And you humans wonder why we're elusive. We want no part of what humans have got goin on.
Eye witness testimony is some of the most unrealiable "evidence" out there
Is it? When different cultures and so many people across the globe are describing similar things, and have been for well over a hundred years? Gotta think, of all the testimonies (and there's alot) it only takes *one* legit sighting to toss any skepticism of these things out the window. That many people making this up or misidentifying would be crazier than Bigfoot being real.
Skeptics and believers are the same, just on opposite sides of the same coin. Both operate on blind devotion of belief to each their own brand of cult.
Then there are those who've actually seen the beings, those are knowers. They are NOT believers and simply accept the reality of what they've seen as a natural part of this world, like the birds in the sky, fish in the stream. Even though I've never seen a sasquatch, myself, I'd rather be considered as one who accepts the reality of sasquatch existence, rather than the "Belief" of their existence. I accept they are real and let them be, no need to prove to skeptics or anyone else on earth that they're real. That's just me.
Fair enough. I’m inclined to agree. I myself am a knower, but “Bigfoot Believer” is more relatable as a video title in my opinion.
Sorry but sceptics will be willing to change their minds when presented with sufficient evidence. In this case of bf sufficient evidence would be to have an actual body where DNA samples can be taken. Anything short of that is insuffient. A cynict is one with blind devotion
Exactly my thoughts. It's just the way it is naturally.
They are NOT believers and simply accept the reality of what they've seen as a natural part of this world,- another way of calling them psychotics.
Well, as a once firm believer who is now more of an agnostic regarding the whole question, I think this skeptical guy is just intolerant and downright rude, and that kind of behaviour is totally uncalled for. As for me, I'm not holding my breath that these creatures are gonna be proven to exist in my lifetime, but I'd sure love to see it happen.
As a guy whose real passion is for boot-on-the-ground research into these beings, I’ll do my best to make it happen for you. 🙂
Once all the trees are chopped down we'll know for sure! I'd prefer infrared,lidar drones over sighting areas. Hope it's not captured and put in a lab though
You make some good arguments, but then you used multiple hoaxed videos to produce this video. Whether someone believes Patty or not, we are in the same position over 50 years now.
Thank you for your comment, Nikki. I appreciate your thoughtful input. While I understand the frustration with hoaxed videos muddying the waters of Bigfoot research, I want to clarify that the inclusion of such videos in the production wasn’t meant to endorse them as definitive proof, but rather to examine and discuss their impact on the broader topic.
Regarding being in the same position for over 50 years, I’d argue that while we haven’t achieved definitive proof, the accumulation of consistent patterns-such as track morphology, eyewitness testimonies, and audio recordings-adds to the intrigue and warrants further investigation. The existence of hoaxes doesn’t negate the possibility of authentic encounters, much like how counterfeit money doesn’t invalidate the existence of real currency.
The debate around Bigfoot thrives on critical thinking and open dialogue like yours, so thank you for sharing your perspective!
@@cabininthewoods517why in this modern day, where we have drones and improved technology, we still cannot find any evidence of them??
@@dannyhernandez265 I'm deaf as s--t and even I can hear a drone way far off in the woods. Having better tech doesn't mean it's being directed appropriately, either. People are not good at using it for some reason, and I bet some people that are successful just do not share what they get, which I can sympathize with. I think another big part of this is that people (like me) who could help with increasing the odds for people with those resources aren't being asked or will not share. I have made observations about behavior in a location over multiple years but In this specific case I think they should be left alone (if I'm right.) On top of that tech requires manpower, and even mundane creatures are exponentially sensitive to the increase of humans in a wilderness area. So to make tech effective you'd need an overwhelming draw that keeps the animals in the area, like an extremely habituated human outpost located near an important seasonal food resource. You're asking good questions, I hope this comes across as helpful and respectful.
Nikki I had the same beef, but i think I understand and am ok with using it as visual narrative. There are some that I'm less ok with because they've been resurrected so many times like the swamp ape tree stump one. But overall I'm welcoming this guy's work.
@@cabininthewoods517 Good answer thanks. Also, I'm a believer in bigfoot, wholeheartedly, but I am a true skeptic of the evidence. I base my show on the facts and talk about the stuff most in the community don't like to talk about. Thanks for your time.
At least three of those videos were from Michigan, I swear they are all over. Great video with sharp points good job
To those who think there is no evidence of the existence of the subject, either you have not seen or know of all the evidence or you are ignoring all of the evidence.
Even if you read only 100 or more encounter reports you start to see correlations in context of these reports, as in while driving, camping, fishing, hiking, swimming, hunting etc. this includes many other things even at home, work or play!
Time of day, night, time of year, season, spring summer, fall or winter, type of weather etc.
Of course type of context you are engaged in as there are many types even taking the trash out!
So after only 100 or so reports read you will start seeing correlations & the more reports you read the more correlations you will find, now your learning Sasquatch behavior patterns no doubt you’ll agree.
When thinking of Sasquatch one must think outside the box for the creature has many abilities that we don’t understand & when we don’t understand something we think it’s fake!
Then we make fun of others for jokes & laughs!
Very immature & childish no doubt!
When you see one it changes your life, when you’ve seen more than three it f@¥ks up your life. Not really but you’re always thinking what else was I told growing up is fake but very real!
What is your take on the hypothesis of BF as an Interdimensional creature?
Haven’t looked into it deeply enough to have a fully-formed opinion just yet. Currently researching.
@@cabininthewoods517 I suspect that while that would be interesting, the reality of going down that road would forever alienate bigfoot research further from the scientific community. However after seeing that predator pixelation cloaker video that Barb Shupe took, it does make you wonder.
@@davidnorwich3771Freaky stuff.
Patty forgot to portal, lol.
Makes alot more sense tbh. I went into more detail explaining why this could be beyond the basic conventional theory in one reply but my comment kept getting deleted, yet all my other comments are fine... Ok.
I make this argument all the time, and i think its extremely valid when it comes to the Sasquatch topic.
Look at the case of "Hiroo Onoda", He was the Japanese officer who hid out on a Filipino island for all most 30 years. He went un contact for decades, because he thought the war was still going on. Sure people had sightings of Onoda on the island, and many search parties went out looking for him over the long years, but ultimately he didnt want to be found, so no one could find him. Compare that to a Sasquatch. An animal that some believe has intellect of maybe an early human. Couldnt something like that stay hidden in Americas deep forests and swamps, hiding in the darkest couners of the world. Sasquatch stomping grounds are far bigger than some Filipino island.
That’s a fascinating parallel-thanks very much for sharing!
Bigfoot is much more believable than the Duckbilled platypus.
True enough!
The way you presented your argument was far more eloquently done than the skeptic, hahaha!
Also, based on some of the comments I have read in this comment section, I guess some people with still side with the skeptic for reasons...
Thanks for the kind words! Yes, there are definitely more than a few “Harolds” in the comments section. 😂
Lol the "something that isn't proven doesn't exist" is crazy. By that logic, a tree doesn't make a sound if no one is there to hear it
My favorite part is the angry voice.
People believe what they want to believe. I just accept these creatures are real and don't care what anyone else thinks.
One thing that I notice is people will see a video and if the video is not the best quality, shaking or a little blurry they say it's fake. The same person will see a clear video and say it's too good and call it fake. The funny thing is that in a court of law video is enough to send you too prison. I know if big foot is real or not and I don't really care . But people are definitely seeing something. But I don't know what it is?
The funny part is the skeptics get mad because you don't think the way they do. Like it has an effect on their world what you believe or don't. Smh
Some do, certainly.
Fred in Alaska who has the podcast Subarctic Alaska Sasquatch, could to take this
disbeliever to places that would absolutely change his beliefs about Sasquatch.
My old boss is the same. He heard about Ray Wallace's kids announcing he faked some prints in CA in the 50s. That was enough for him to conclude that it is all hoaxes. Being highly biologically strict, as I am too, he doesn't see the arguments. Some people are very skeptical and to the point of not investigating. My boss and I now no longer speak, he has no time for this kind of talk.
I do agree, however, that sightings and testimony are the WORST forms of evidence. They may be true, but without documentation, they are just anecdotal, not physical. I have enough physical evidence displayed to me to know they are a real, earth bound, natural species (being that NO supernatural anything, has ever been shown to exist). Multi dimensional beings is not something we have anything but stories about. I have to discount those until SOME inter-dimensional evidence proves there are more than the 4 dimensions we live in.
Yes, the media is at fault for buying the phony confessions.
Part 2 please...subscribed 👍
Thanks for the support!
Another good video. Mr Skeptic was quite irrational. In a court of law, eye witness testimony is instrumental in convicting criminals. Part 2 would be good.
He was indeed. And thank you!
Boy,that guy needs a snickers candy bar! Maybe switch to de-caf ! I don’t know if they are real but, it’s plausible and hard to ignore so many reports! Its also fun to think Bigfoot is real!
That’s Tim Waltz in a suite😮
2:50 you avoided that question briliantly
Well thank you 🙂
Part II, please.
the whole perceived reality is a hologram of illustrated information that the human mind labels "form" and information can change perception revealing deeper self created illusions based on an evolving definition process. No worse a blind person than the one who doesnt want to see
He probably doesn't believe in UFOs either
The fact of the matter is that the initial rung in the hypothetical ladder which leads us to empirical evidence has been satisfied. Credible reports over time. This is the criteria that's launched thousands of investigations resulting in the documentation of previously unknown species. To deny this reality is to be every bit as incorrect as people who believe without evidence. Reports from trained observers whose opinions are considered as fact in a court of law demands that we attempt to identify this potential species. Just the facts.
Precisely.
Yeah you won that debate
I’m just speculating here, but I think if Bigfoot actually is real its elusiveness is likely due to it having lived in Pleistocene North America and had to evade predators specializing in hunting megafauna like Saber-Toothed Cats, Dire Wolves, and of course later on humans.
In fact, if we assume it crossed the land bridge into North America (it would’ve had too if it’s an ape) then they’ve been dealing with Saber-Tooths for millions of years, which is plenty of time for them to evolve very effective strategies for staying hidden.
That’s a fascinating theory, Danny, and it ties into some interesting ideas about survival and adaptation. If Bigfoot has been around since the Pleistocene, evading predators like saber-toothed cats and dire wolves would certainly pressure it to develop exceptional stealth and survival strategies.
The notion of an elusive species persisting across millennia also lines up with how other species adapt to extreme environments or threats. The idea that Bigfoot crossed the land bridge and inherited these survival instincts adds another layer of plausibility to its evasiveness in modern times. Thanks for sharing your perspective-it’s definitely thought-provoking!
@@cabininthewoods517thanks for the response! I’ll take this a step further by saying that the elusiveness adaptation might have predated the arrival of Bigfoot’s lineage to North America. I will point out that the fossil record tells us that Eurasia was a massive hub for apes during the Miocene epoch, and if we are to believe the stories of other Bigfoot-like creatures in Eurasia (Yeti, Yeren and Almas) it made sense to me that Bigfoot’s origins were somewhere in Eurasia.
These possible relatives of Bigfoot seem to be just as elusive, and Saber-Toothed Cats also had a presence in Eurasia for the last 20 million years (to say nothing of the Pantherine cats that live today and also probably hunted apes). Bigfoot’s size may have been selected for to ward off these predators, only for the predators to evolve larger sizes themselves and larger teeth to boot.
Idk I just think “Ice Age Bigfoot” is a very fun idea that I wish was discussed more. It doesn’t even seem that out of place alongside what we know existed in that time.
Angry people need to chill out
Agreed!
Are there not plenty of things for which we know to be real but we do not have physical evidence? Like, most things in the cosmos for example. Do we have physical proof of Alpha Centauri? I doubt it. Would this BF skeptic say it doesn't exist because all we have is eyewitness and photographic evidence? What about black holes? Physical evidence is nice, but it isn't the only determining factor when it comes to science. I believe even gravity still remains a theory, but I'm pretty comfortable saying it exists.
More points to the possibility, dare I say the probability that these creatures exists than not. Just go down the rabbit hole and find out
So, Objective and Logical video!
The Only thing that I can tell you - Thank God your channel is related to Bigfoot and Not Aliens and UFOs, because Then you See what we call BACKLASH!!! 😂😂😂
Off-topic - what is the name/brand/model/type of your hat, and what keywords to use to find it?
In my country, Bulgaria, practically Nobody wears this type of hat and we know it only from Indiana Jones movies or so! In the Canadian wilderness, it seems like an Amazing choice! ☺☺☺
Thanks for the comment and for watching! Agreed-you’d need a very thick skin to tackle aliens! My hat is made by a company called Rogue. www.rogueoriginal.com/products/rogue-original-hat?srsltid=AfmBOoqNLR7f_E_RUigtfqE4n7B3PqDxKdz2tRsJcntDdY1scuPc_dD3
yeah when they start start off wielding the word "logic" (incorrectly) as a baton you know you're engaged with someone who actually has no information. As in, when you tell people saying the word over and over again doesn't actually mean you're being logical or even know what it is, they tend to not take it well. Even if they're actually right I tend to go after these people. (If you look closely at their language there's often indications that it's either a bot or a non-english speaker practicing talking smack for their own edification.)
At the same time I also have a hard time with bigfooters with their logical reasoning. Example: A tree limb stabbed into the ground isn't evidence of anything other than a tree limb stabbed into the ground unless you can prove that it doesn't naturally occur (which it does.) Even if you prove something doesn't naturally occur it is still illogical to say "therefore fill-in-the-blank-creature did it" without examining alternatives AND proving that it's in fact something bigfoots do. I believe bigfoots do make popping noises in the wild based on my own experience, but I also know that hearing popping noises does not prove that bigfoots are around, because it also happens naturally. With squatchers there's a WHOLE LOT of "since we know x, then y is true also" when not only is that not how reasoning works, but we do not have the correct ground work to directly correlate bigfoots with x. As in, apes may sometimes make springpoles out of young hardwoods, and they may arrange deadfall to create game funnels in the forest. But also we know that natural conditions and raw odds will occasionally make deliberate-looking formations of these very mundane things.
TLDR: twigs and limbs and springpoles are not "logical" proof that bigfoots are spending the winter just off the 7th green at your local muni golf course. In fact it's not even evidence.
Thanks for your detailed comment. I can’t speak for other “bigfooters”, but for myself, I try not to form any conclusion without good reason. 🙂
@@cabininthewoods517 it shows!
Hahaha I like the Pirate. He makes the debate.
Science is a religion.
Is "Dr. Tard" a scientific term?
The reasons i doubt Patty existed are as follows:
1. The person who filmed the video published a book a year prior, featuring a photo o a female bigfoot similarly gifted in the chest area as Patty, crossing a river bank in the same gait and pose, with a fallen tree between human and cryptid.
2. Apparently the person who filmed it was filming a documentary about bigfoot, or something of that sorts.
3. The person who claims to have made the suit has explanation of most, if not all points, believer point at for why it can not be a man in a suit, the way its muscles move is apparently due to hanging plates under the suit, the length of the forearms can be replicated with hand extensions, while the shoulder plates compensate for the upper arm's length.
4. Multiple people have demonstrated the gait, including the heel rise.
The term "Professor Tardo" isn't one I’d ever use, as I prefer to keep discussions respectful and evidence-based.
1. Regarding the claim that Roger Patterson's book featured a photo of a female Bigfoot: The illustration in Patterson's book was an artist's depiction, not evidence of prior hoaxing. It shows a conceptualized Bigfoot and doesn't resemble the specific proportions or gait of Patty, as seen in the PGF. The suggestion that Patterson planned or staged this based on a book drawing is speculative and unsupported by evidence.
2. Patterson was indeed interested in making a Bigfoot documentary, but enthusiasm for a subject doesn’t disqualify someone from capturing real evidence. Many wildlife documentarians spend years pursuing elusive species before finally documenting them.
3. The claim about the suit maker explaining it all (likely Bob Heironimus) has been debunked thoroughly. Heironimus has repeatedly changed his story and failed to produce the suit or evidence of his involvement. The movement of Patty’s muscles, her proportions, and anatomical accuracy exceed what 1967 technology (or even modern suits) can replicate. Hanging plates and other explanations don't account for details like the muscle contractions seen under the skin or her extended limb ratios, which remain anatomically consistent with a non-human primate.
4. While some have attempted to mimic Patty’s gait and heel rise, none have replicated it convincingly. The biomechanics in the PGF film display natural movement consistent with a heavy, large primate-not an actor in a costume. Furthermore, the proportions (e.g., arm length relative to height) differ significantly from human anatomy, making replication without significant CGI or prosthetics impractical.
I hope this clears up some common misconceptions about the PGF. 🙂
@@cabininthewoods517
1. I can not agree, if you take them side to side they both walk in the same manner and have the same stance, both gifted around the chest. The artist, if they did not see the creature, would likely struggle to replicate the stance. But it is possible, and the odds of a person encountering a bigfoot meeting a female bigfoot are likely fifty fifty. So the chest and gait and pose may that, even tho they are still suspiciously similar, as if the video was filmed based on them. The crossing of the river, alright, river banks are open areas. Its more likely to see an animal when it is crossing open ground. And there are fallen trees in river banks. But the tree between the observer and the cryptid, combined with all those factors? This is very suspicious. So i can not agree that they are not similar, they are virtually identical, i would have though its an illustration of Patty had it not been pubished a year prior. Patterson did seem to have athing for female sasquatch. Patterson DID illustrate it. Based on an illustration by Morton Kunstler, whose illustration is stunning. It does not matter if Patterson did it tho, as my argument is it could have inspired his footage.
2. I agree, but they also claimed that they were out filming the fall colors. Its not proof against it, but it is an eyebrow riser.
3. I do not consider it debunked, can you point at some inconsistencies in his story? He did show a suit. Virtually identical to Patty. Multiple in fact, some better than others. The one on his lap, where he is sitting down, seems amazingly crafted. How come it can not replicate it? Arm extensions are something i could make in 20 seconds with duct tape and a pair of timber spoons. I am not sure one can see contractions on a footage this blurry, i barey see the movement of muscles and i have stared at this footage for quite awhile. It does not help how people sometimes measure the limbs sasquatch suspects from way different point than they do for humans they compare them with.
4. What would you consider "convincing?" Humans are a heavy large primate, what would you consider this to mean? I have seen people move in the same manner. Like i said, arm extensions can be made, the shoulder plates can compensate for the longer forearm, and measurements are not always taken well on the actual footage.
I am looking for a Bigfoot video that seems to have gone missing, it features a bigfoot walking infront fo a camping tent, its filmed from inside the tent by a camera that is static and not hand held, its in night vidion, i believe gray, it has a comparison with two people walking down the same path, it shows the top of the creature, it reveals skin under the fur. Do you happen to know what it is called, and where one can find it? 🙂
@@JohnyDeep-ls1ds You need to look at the slowed down stabilised vidoe again. You can clearly see muscle definition and muscle movement.
@@davidnorwich3771 I do, but its hard to tell what is a bulging thigh muscle and what a blur, as even that version is not HD by any means. One of the things going For Patty is the fact that the video was supposed to be very low quality, the suit holding up to modern technological enhancement is unlikely to have been something considered by Roger.
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All the evidence has been taken no need to prove they are real. The real question is what are they and what can they all do. DNA says Mother Human Father unknown or the other way around I can't remember off hand. If they weren't real why would some states make laws against killing them? I think Washington is one of them and I think there might be a couple more states who made laws to protect them. If you shot one you will be charged for it. There are many different colors of them just like Humans. All the work has been done already for as far as DNA and footprints 👣 and pictures/ videos. You have to be brain dead not to realize they are real. They have families just like us and we don't need a body to prove to anyone they are real. Why kill something just to say it's real.
It's really simple I've never seen him before so he didn't exist. Does that make sense no. I have seen him twice. I'm not a liar.And there's is physical proof and DNA. 👍💯👣👣👣👣👣
Stellar logic, isn’t it? 🙂
Proof ? There is evidence , not proof and the DNA claims have issues. This will not be solved for good until one is captured or recovered.
Do any of these Bigfoot believers understand just how much a Bigfoot would have to eat every day? A large gorilla, living in a tropical climate eats up to 75 lbs. of food a day. By all reports, a Bigfoot is considerably larger than a gorilla, so what would it have to eat in winter? 100 lbs of food/day? There would be shit absolutely everywhere, and we'd have undeniable genetic proof of Bigfoot's existence. But no, not even the tiniest little bigfoot turd had ever been collected.
The well-worn arguments you present assume Bigfoot has the exact metabolic needs and ecological behavior of a gorilla, which isn’t necessarily accurate. Many eyewitnesses report behaviors suggesting Bigfoot could be omnivorous, relying on a mix of seasonal vegetation, animal protein, and even stored fat reserves during harsh winters. These adaptive traits are seen in other large mammals surviving in challenging climates.
As for scat and other physical evidence, it’s worth noting that even in ecosystems teeming with known predators, feces attributed to specific animals-especially elusive ones-are rarely identified without targeted study. That said, researchers *do* have hair, skin, blood, and saliva samples that point to an unknown primate species, based on DNA analysis. While these samples are debated, they provide compelling biological evidence that can’t be dismissed outright.
The absence of "genetic proof" also doesn't invalidate eyewitness testimony, track evidence, or other findings. Many species evaded scientific discovery until relatively recent times despite being "everywhere" to indigenous peoples or local witnesses. Science often lags behind what people in the field observe.
I wonder how he feels about the moon landings?
It would certainly be interesting to ask!
Bigfoot is surely more real than moon landings.
He believes in them. What else?
Thank you for this video debate these non believers are simpletons and close minded know it alls
Hello again how are you and your family hope all is well? You know I used to entertain debating people on this subject and ever since I saw with my own two eyes that these things are real I put that debate to rest I'm going to go out and I'm just going to say the way I feel it that I feel the government doesn't want these things to be documented because if they are then all the resources they have to put aside to protect and conserve landform and also to keep human safe from them as well so it would hit our country economically very hardly the same up as up in Canada and wherever else I mean I've heard stories of people finding dead ones or shooting and killing these things and a few days later the government coming in threatened him and taking the body away it's it's rumored I don't have proved or just stories and I get that but where there's smoke there's fire also you know I have my face that I've had all my life I believe in God I believe in Jesus Christ I'm a Christian and just because I don't see them doesn't mean that they're not real so like I said ever since 2016 when I had my encounterI am an hour okay I was just wondering because in that instance when I had my encounter my whole life being in these woods in the pine barrens or New Jersey you know camping hunting fishing you know I've heard and saw a lot of strange things that I couldn't quit any animals but I still didn't you know believe that they were there I mean I know about the time but you know I was like any normal teenager pursuing a career in women in how to get a family and eventually settle down anyway keep up the great work love the channel take care and God bless
Thank you for sharing your story and thoughtful insights. It’s always powerful to hear from someone who has had a firsthand experience-they carry a level of authenticity that’s hard to dismiss. Your point about potential government involvement and the implications of officially recognizing these beings is something many people in this field have speculated on. It makes sense that such a discovery would have wide-reaching consequences for conservation, safety, and even economic systems.
I appreciate your grounded perspective-balancing your faith, experiences, and the things you've encountered over the years. The Pine Barrens and similar areas seem to hold so much mystery, and it's fascinating to hear about what you've seen and heard there. Thank you for your kind words about the channel as well; they mean a lot. I’ll keep striving to bring thought-provoking content for viewers like you. Take care, and God bless!
It takes a special kind of loser to waste such a finite resource and time arguing that something they don't believe in doesn't exist. I dont believe in flat earth theory or leprechauns but you won't find me on flat earth/leprechaun forums or spaces arguing with anyone about it lol
Yes let's have part foil I mean 2. I'm sure you confronted him with trace evidence examined by professionals and DNA hair sample and the like. Tested by unbiased labs and the methods used by these labs. It may not make a difference. The duck bill platypus was considered fake even as the body of one laid on a lab table ready for disection.
Are you Robert?
Yes.
@cabininthewoods517 Read the answers in the bottom. I've been communicating with people who har a negativ view of you...
@renekuskchristensen2182I’m not sure exactly what you’re referring to, but thanks for the support. I’m quite ok with people having a negative view of me. 🙂
@@cabininthewoods517 I'm referring to my communication with people in your last vid...
Had a look-thanks for being a voice of reason! 🙂
I doubt Bigfoot exists but I can't stand angry skeptics.
Ok, you don't believe in Bigfoot. Does it matter what *YOU* believe or disbelieve? You don't like hearing Bigfoot stories? Don't listen then. Go find something useful to do.
Refreshing to hear a common sense perspective. 🙂
PS: Squatches stink.
Skeptics reaching miles with a female bf suit.
Agreed haha.
Is the sceptic a Christian?
Sooner or later you always come across the remains of everything.
Well I'm still waiting 😂
No body, No proof,
case closed, period.
This whole conversation that you had sounds made up
Buy why is it's nose blue
I dont like the exaggerated voice. It feels like a cheap blow
Wonderful. I have "debates" with folks like this gold nugget you found as well. I applaud your patience and eloquence.
Edit :
My other account...
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there is still no proof if he exists or not i hope he does he probley is our ancestor it's like trying to prove fairies are real
I belive in sassy though i dont think they live here i littel Denmark
You could be right-I’m not familiar with any stories of these beings in Denmark. That said, thanks for being interested in the topic and my channel! 🙂
@ youre welcome 👍
Grendel was long ago.
Only in America 😂😂😂
The USA is a very young country and has very little modern history compared to the rest of the world.its Hollywood syndrome nothing more
Interesting perspective! That said, I’m Canadian. To say nothing of the many other countries around the world with long histories of Sasquatch sightings and evidence. 🙂
Hilarious, you should do Stand Up you’d be great, better at that than making comments on subjects pearly you know nothing of!!!
You forget the natives huh? come on, show some respect.
We have no real idea about the real history of n America.
They are real
I heard one - same as in Ohio
Lol
In my experience, anyone who uses the word "bro" in a debate has no clue what they're talking about & has no scientific credentials, whatsoever.
They're just a narcissist trying to feed their egos by arguing online because no one in their lives listens to them.
Your theory has the ring of truth.