Two zone cooking on the Kamado Joe using the divide & conquer rack - is it really two heat zones?

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024

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  • @BartlowsBBQ
    @BartlowsBBQ 3 года назад +2

    Great explanation of two zone cooking with the divide and conquer setup!

  • @Grover124
    @Grover124 3 года назад +1

    Good information, James... Thanks! I keep a couple of balls of crumpled foil in my BBQ kit for when I need an extra grate thermometer clip ... just shove the probe through the foil and jam it onto the rack... it works as good as the clip... and it’s much easier and faster to place so no more burned fingers.. the clips are awful to accurately pinch and set when wearing gloves.

  • @devilbrad
    @devilbrad 3 года назад +1

    Great info! Thanks for taking the time to do these experiments! Now show us a cook using both zones!

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад

      You got it! more of that coming up soon

  • @guitar911rock
    @guitar911rock 3 года назад +4

    Now need to see how you cook on the zones!

  • @beers-jackofbbq
    @beers-jackofbbq 3 года назад +2

    I figured I knew the outcome, but had to watch just to make sure! Nice comparison! I never did the 2 diffuser plates and will have to try that next time I setup the 2 zones! Cheers James!

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching Craig

    • @terrencearturo7750
      @terrencearturo7750 3 года назад +1

      I know I am quite off topic but do anybody know of a good place to watch newly released series online ?

    • @dashlyric2306
      @dashlyric2306 3 года назад +1

      @Terrence Arturo i use flixzone. You can find it by googling :)

    • @nicholasarthur5525
      @nicholasarthur5525 3 года назад

      @Dash Lyric Yup, been watching on Flixzone for since april myself :)

    • @terrencearturo7750
      @terrencearturo7750 3 года назад

      @Dash Lyric Thanks, I went there and it seems to work :) I appreciate it !!

  • @ComparisonCooking
    @ComparisonCooking 3 года назад +1

    Very informative video! You can always cut a potato in half and stick a probe through that also, or so I’m told. As another thermometer rack holder. Charcoal is hot 😂

  • @DevinzYT
    @DevinzYT 3 года назад

    Great info James, thanks. I really appreciate the notes at the bottom of videos, especially any notes on how you set your vents for specific temps, and how long it takes to get your grills set at those temps.

  • @gordonreid9892
    @gordonreid9892 3 года назад +1

    Very interesting video. I always wondered what the difference in temperature zones for direct and indirect was. Youre taking all the guess work out of it 😁👍

  • @chefjoebbq85
    @chefjoebbq85 3 года назад

    Great Experiment! Kamado Joe Rules! I love all the possible configurations that this grill allows.

  • @codyduncan195
    @codyduncan195 3 года назад +1

    The flexibility of the divide and conquer cooking system on the Kamado Joe, along with the other innovations, is one of the main reasons I went with a KJ over the Big Green Egg or other kamado style grills.

  • @KamadoMax
    @KamadoMax 3 года назад

    Very interesting! Thanks for running this experiment!

  • @stefanvandepoel254
    @stefanvandepoel254 3 года назад

    Great experiment and surprisingly nice results. Good to know about that!

  • @AncientAviator
    @AncientAviator 3 года назад

    Nice demo! Saved me the trouble! Thank you.

  • @bobv5806
    @bobv5806 3 года назад

    Great video! Thanks for putting some numbers to the theory.

  • @meatthecookk.2227
    @meatthecookk.2227 3 года назад

    Looks great brother excellent explanation I use my primo in similar fashion but was interesting to see your kamados were so close in temp.

  • @cardsncollectiblez
    @cardsncollectiblez 3 года назад

    Data doesn’t lie! Love the approach

  • @praetorxyn
    @praetorxyn 3 года назад +1

    This is where the SnS Kamado excels. I also have a drip pan with a roasting grate in it, so when using the Slow N Sear, a probe at the drip griddle level is about 60-70 F below a probe at grate level, and I've never been brave enough to put a probe over the Slow N Sear as it's right under the grate, but I know you can get it over 1000 degrees when you want to sear a steak. Maybe next time I do it (like when I do ribs tomorrow) I'll use an IR thermometer on the direct side to see what it is.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад

      sounds like the same temp separation range (~70f-100f)

    • @praetorxyn
      @praetorxyn 3 года назад

      @@SmokingDadBBQ Kind of, except that's just grate level / about 6-7 inches below grate level on one side. I'd expect the direct heat side to be at least that much hotter than the indirect side.

    • @unashamed4lyfe
      @unashamed4lyfe 3 года назад

      Im interested in the sns kamado also. But leaning toward the big joe. Still torn in between lol.

    • @praetorxyn
      @praetorxyn 3 года назад +1

      @@unashamed4lyfe Considering that even with all the Kickash accessories the SnS costs about what a Classic Joe does, it was a pretty easy choice for me. I'd say the SnS gives more versatility, and since pretty much any accessory for the 22" kettle will work with it, it's probably better in terms of accessories too.
      If you like to rotisserie a lot maybe go with the Big Joe, as the SnS rotisserie kit has holes for the skewers it comes with, and I've heard that makes it a little more difficult to control temps if you don't have something to plug the extra holes with.

    • @unashamed4lyfe
      @unashamed4lyfe 3 года назад

      @@praetorxyn sns can be used ib both ways, so your not loosing anything. I have a weber kettle also so the accessories would fit perfectly. But KJ has been around for yrs and i dont see them going anywhere. Cant go wrong with either I think thats why im still in between. Plus i love that air lift hinge lol. Idk, maybe just close my eyes and pick one lol.

  • @oldtownbrit
    @oldtownbrit 3 года назад +1

    Getting a little addicted to these videos as i look to upgrade from the pellet smoker, great job. Do you have a video in the archives to discuss sizes? Trying to figure out if the classic is enough or if i go to the big joe. Keep up the great work.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад

      Coming soon but don’t have one yet. spoiler the big Joe is my favourite. I had no idea before having one how efficient it was, and how much I would enjoy fitting sides etc

  • @fortuneworks
    @fortuneworks 3 года назад

    Great video, James! Your research saves us all a lot of time! Hope your compensation is increasing 🤓

  • @Ryan-gp5hq
    @Ryan-gp5hq 5 месяцев назад

    Good afternoon Smoking Dad I was wondering if you could fit a classic 3 divided and conquer inside a classic 2 instead of buying a grill extender ?

  • @RumandCook
    @RumandCook 3 года назад

    Entertaining and educational as always!

  • @thegalleryBBQ
    @thegalleryBBQ 3 года назад

    Another well thought out show.

  • @dn1084
    @dn1084 3 года назад

    Always enjoy you videos thanks for posting.

  • @SplashFPV
    @SplashFPV 3 года назад

    Yes, you got me. I have to get myself a big joe 3 now 😀

  • @michaelcoates7191
    @michaelcoates7191 3 года назад

    Great information, thanks! I loved the gloves appearing.

  • @richardcagle5475
    @richardcagle5475 3 года назад

    Good info man. Been staking the BGE version of this setup and wondered if it was actually worth the money. Seems like it definitely works as intended. Thanks

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад

      I would get the eggs pander over the platesetter for sure. I had the CGS WOO with extender in my large egg, same thing

  • @Hey_deb
    @Hey_deb 3 года назад +2

    Great videos! Wish I had found these sooner. I’m having problems with my latch....keeps popping open during cooks. Have you covered this? I’ve referred to the manual but need more specifics.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад +1

      I haven't recorded this yet... but there are adjustments you can make in 5min. the 4 bolts on the latch allow left/right adjustments on both pieces and the set screw on the latch allows up / down movement

  • @kpriest1
    @kpriest1 Год назад

    Hi James your videos are amazing. I’m new to Kamado Joe. I purchased the Series 3. My question is if I wanted to smoke with two racks do I just purchase another grating set and stack the racks or is there another option? Of course the slow roller is being used without the ceramic plates. Thanks in advance. @dontdishonme

  • @charleswest4781
    @charleswest4781 3 года назад

    Thanks for all the work you put into these videos. Do you ever divide the charcoal basket on the Big Joe? Certain pros and cons for different situations? It’s quite an enormous basket.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад +1

      Thanks, i prefer to not use it as its easier to rake the coals around so i just bank them

  • @AnchorRoom1
    @AnchorRoom1 3 года назад

    Nice - great little experiment!

  • @mikes8634
    @mikes8634 2 года назад +1

    Hi James, thanks for the videos. They are really great! Just got my classic III, still trying to figure it out but very happy so far. Have you noticed a difference when you use the charcoal divider front to back, vs side to side? I feel like it took longer to get hot with the divider side to side with the charcoal towards the front. Thanks again you da man.

  • @alan5388
    @alan5388 3 года назад

    Great information!! Thank you.

  • @johnkinnane547
    @johnkinnane547 3 года назад

    G'day James and greetings from Tasmania Australia, I have the cast iron grates for the Joe I assume that the heat would be more intense than using the normal stainless grates, it would be great to see you using the cast iron ones for grilling like steak ect. Love your channel and I have been subscribed for a while now, kind regards John

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад

      thanks John. much appreciated, and good idea

  • @markboulier2006
    @markboulier2006 3 года назад

    The difference in cooking between two zones is difficult to quantify. Temperature alone is not super representative. The hot zone will experience significant radiative heat as well as convective. The low side basically just convection. Logging the temperature change of equivalent pots of water would have likely shown an even more dramatic difference. This would show their total rate of change of heat energy. This would be translatable into a BTU or a similar energy-per-time unit. Obviously a thought provoking episode. Good stuff.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад

      I agree. I just don’t have IR gear to quantify radiant heat coming from the ceramics at different levels so used what I could measure which is the air temp passing by the probe at two different spots

    • @markboulier2006
      @markboulier2006 3 года назад

      @@SmokingDadBBQ next time...if you’re interested...stick probes in an empty soup cans with equivalent mass of water and log temperature curves over time. I will translate to BTU for you

    • @markboulier2006
      @markboulier2006 3 года назад

      @@SmokingDadBBQ I don’t think it’s helpful to quantify radiant vs convective, but measuring rate of change of a known mass like water will give net “power” or BTU

  • @arjan2518
    @arjan2518 2 года назад

    Can you trust your lid thermometer with a hot zone left and less hot right, or may it work better with hot zone at the back and the less hot zone at the front?

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  2 года назад +1

      the fire naturally goes to the back so its better to do the hot on the back vs. left and right

    • @arjan2518
      @arjan2518 2 года назад

      @@SmokingDadBBQ Thank you

  • @destinationdero
    @destinationdero 3 года назад

    Great insight on the Kamado man. Like 306

  • @sethkinney8987
    @sethkinney8987 3 года назад

    Love the content! I just bought my first kamado and decided on the Big Joe 3. I was curious if you’ve used or found any gas inserts for Big Joe? There are times I find myself using gas for certain quick cooks and would love to get rid of my gas grill.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад +1

      I think you will get comfortable so quick like we did you find yourself selling the gas grill soon enough.

  • @aldolopezL
    @aldolopezL 3 года назад

    First comment! Saludos desde Tijuana Mexico 🇲🇽

  • @stephenclarkin5840
    @stephenclarkin5840 3 года назад

    Hey I just subscribed to your channel this week, good stuff. Can you please tell me how accurate you find the thermostat on the Kamado, versus using a probe inside the dome?

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад +1

      it’s very accurate but it needs to be adjusted spring and fall. here is how - ruclips.net/video/5ew06oYnR8M/видео.html

    • @stephenclarkin5840
      @stephenclarkin5840 3 года назад +1

      @@SmokingDadBBQ Hey thanks for the reply. Your content is really good stuff. I rarely ever comment on RUclips, in fact this is the second time although I’m a big RUclips user. Well done keep the good stuff coming. Steve

  • @jtuds
    @jtuds 2 года назад

    I’d be interested to know if the difference becomes wider or narrower as the average temp goes up

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  2 года назад +1

      i can check

    • @jtuds
      @jtuds 2 года назад

      @@SmokingDadBBQ I just bought a classic 3 today btw. It will be delivered next week and will replace my 12 year old Weber Summit. I’m cautiously optimistic. Classic 3 plus a DoJoe cost me $3200 and change after tax.

  • @maureengosselin3185
    @maureengosselin3185 3 года назад

    hi i was just wondering if the kamado joe classic III divide and conquer rack would work on my classic II because i like the 3 level divide and conquer rack from the classic III instead of the 2 level rack that comes with the classic II.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад +1

      great question, not sure exactly as the series 3 is 4" taller.... i'd be worried it might hit the dome as you close it

  • @stephancrone9245
    @stephancrone9245 3 года назад

    Great Video James 👍 did you try this experiment in addition with only one heat deflector plate under the left griddle? Was there a significant change in temperatur?

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад +1

      Not sure, will need to check it sometime

  • @RobPeevy
    @RobPeevy 3 года назад

    I'm diving into the Kamado cooking family. Is the Kamado Joe classic 3 worth the extra money over a classic 2 for a newbie???

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад

      if you do a brisket more than twice a year i would consider the 3... if you do more hot and fast cooking the series 2 is hard to beat

    • @RobPeevy
      @RobPeevy 3 года назад

      @@SmokingDadBBQ how about if I do primarily ribs and pork for pulled pork? Thank you so much for the rapid reply.
      Keep cooking.

  • @jackaustin5853
    @jackaustin5853 3 года назад

    If smoking long time, low heat, when do you close dome after starting. Concern is raw fuel flavor in meat

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад

      i close the dome right away to build heat, this is important for a kamado to benefit from the three types of heat (radiant, convection, conduction) but you do need to wait until the smoke is running clean to not get the raw fuel taste you describe.

    • @jackaustin5853
      @jackaustin5853 3 года назад

      Thk you .doing a pork butt for pulled pork . Guess I’ll have to be a little more patient. Might have too much fuel

    • @jackaustin5853
      @jackaustin5853 3 года назад

      Happy New Year . Bad timing on my part

  • @chriswalther8641
    @chriswalther8641 3 года назад

    Hi James! Are you gonna do a prime rib on the Kamado?

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад +1

      spinning a 25lbs striploin Tuesday

  • @kappatvating
    @kappatvating 3 года назад

    Great video. Did you get a new camera.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад

      Thanks Steven.... no still my iPhone

  • @brewstersmith5193
    @brewstersmith5193 3 года назад

    Think temp difference would be the same with KJ2?

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад +1

      not sure. it’s 4” shorter but the separation would still be there maybe to a lesser extent

  • @toosas
    @toosas 3 года назад

    how do you care for a kamado in winter? That's a video idea.. maybe

  • @MrMarnold6
    @MrMarnold6 3 года назад

    You should repeat this in a Promo XL to see if all those claims that it's "the only way to get true two zone cooking" is debunked!

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад

      if i can borrow one locally happy too

  • @bigchung5803
    @bigchung5803 3 года назад

    I see you’ve been using your grill gun a lot lately, is that your new favorite?!

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад +1

      it won the fun factor in my test and it was really only the cost holding back my rating. but as I have it already, it’s hard to chose not using it when it’s so gosh darn fast lol

  • @tonymolat2894
    @tonymolat2894 3 года назад

    I am new in RUclips, I upload videos of very delicious recipes and translate them into many languages, but there is no interaction. Is this normal🤔

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  3 года назад

      this video has some insights for multiple language channels that might help you figure out what’s going on - ruclips.net/video/8vigqcEaL7g/видео.html