This Firesteel Technique can Save your Life
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- This Firesteel Technique can Save your Life
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I have been camping for 10 years
I use a propane torch to start the campfire
@@harryfire411 My son does the same!
2:27 how often do you find cotton in nature. Me looking out my back window to a 200 acre field of cotton in Georgia the American Georgia not that other one in the Baltics. Lol
Survival usually doesn't include a propane torch. idget. Nor a field of cotton.
Please stop giving bad advice.
We do it the correct way is so it allows our tool to last as long as possible.
Striker should always follow all the way through, so a worn fire steel should have a tip to it, not a flat spot in the middle so it could break off later...
Please learn how to properly use a fire steel. You are giving poor advice.
Glad to see you are still at it, Lilly. Some of your "fire steel" videos are teaching young teenagers in Idaho, United States how to enjoy camping in this beautiful region with simple and proven techniques. Thank you for great content!
I am 70 years old and did 16 and a half years in the Army. We were taught to turn our knife over as Lily did, but, we used the knife to pinch and hold the tinder in place. We then pulled the steel up as if starting a lawn mower. This way all the sparks go in one direction and the result is the tinder catches fire quicker because of the concentration of the sparks. Good Job Lily!
Pinching down makes perfect sense. Thank you for your insight.
Very interesting!
I first learned the "Pinching Down" method in the Boy Scouts at age 12 !
And I've used it for nearly 60 years!
Keep up the good work!
Exactly, same here. Surprised more outdoors folks aren’t aware of this.
very interesting. i was trained that this specifically was an incorrect way for it destroys the life of your rod. Wearing only the middle down could cause it to break in the middle later.
Striker should always follow all the way through, so an old worn fire steel should have a tip to it, like a sharpened pencil, not a flat spot in the middle so it could break off later...
you follow all the way through to the end of the rod. never wear down only the middle like she is doing. Try slowly scraping off a bit of metal, making a pile, then striking that. its how the actual pros do it.
Great point with your pinch technique. It's not uncommon for people to put petroleum jelly in the cotton (or Vix Vap-o-rub if you want to have multi-purpose fire starters). You don't use much and you work it through the cotton when you add it. It helps make the cotton more weather resistant, it makes it burn longer, and , in a pinch, you have something to put on chapped lips. I usually carry as many as I can fit into a small pill or altoids container. When you pack them in, it's quite a lot of material, at a light weight, and you do not have to use a full cotton ball to start a fire. Use a combination of a small piece of saturated cotton and dry grasses/birch bark and you have an easy quick start and you can conserve your resources.
Miss Lilly, thank you for explaining the flying firesteel. I have seen it like that and the pull toward you method and never understood why the don't strike the steel into the tinder bundle instead of onto it.
Thanks again. Your technique is exactly what I do.
My fire starters are a piece of cast iron as a striker and an ordinary piece of knapped flint. Primitive but has served me well for 65 years.
Love your channel Lilly. Learning so much from you! 😊~a Canadian friend
Lilly you are 100% correct.The pinching down method is always the best way to start a fire. Awesome video as always along with a great education for all that is watching your video. Please keep these wonderful videos coming. Take care of yourself and be safe. From John
I use that technique too most of the time. I like to make my feather sticks flat on each side so the rod will easily hold it in place. You did a great job with the shavings. I tend to scatter them to the wind.
PDT, Push Down Technique is another contribution by Lilly, in my opinion. I think it's the first time on RUclips. That's the subject of the video my friends. A 'new way' to do it. "Hear it here first folks," is accurate for RUclips bushcraft - survivalist fans on the same Google algorithms. A fan of innovation, a fan of Ms. Lilly's 'Get It Done-ness' when it comes to my support of her work. Innovation, analyzing, adapting, confidence, all great tools to carry in life, IMO ☺️🔥🔪🥩🥓🍳🌄🏞️🏕️🌅🌍🌎🌏
You can also shave some of the magnesium into your tinder when damp. I use this method along with the “pinch down” when tinder isn’t dry completely.
A ferro rod isn’t magnesium. If you get one of the original magnesium block sets you’ll see it has a separate ferro rod embedded in it.
@@bob_the_bomb4508 I am a total noob so, would you be able to use any iron bar with a similar shape and size to generate these sparks?
@UCIJqyUnZacRvOjuYpEdB3sg Thanks!
@@Hy-jg8ow Hi friend i think no because you need a metal which is soft enough to produce sparks when you use it. You can try with there ferroceriums or if you want to look like a pioneer you can use a flint stone you can find in nature, it makes sparks even if it's more difficult to use than the ferro rods.
@@wintersnowwintersnow1815 Flint stones are those white ones?
I agree, pinching down method is better. Also, I find that the key BEFORE throwing the sparks via the pinching down method is to scrape some of the ferro rod material in a small clump in close proximity to the wood shavings.
Nice job, Lilly. You cover some very important points that are typically overlooked in similar videos.
Very similar to my method, only difference is that I pinch the tinder bundle with the blade of my knife and drag the firesteel across the back of the knife. As you show, the sparks will be right down in the tender, even closer than the method you are using to pinch the tinder. The bonus with this method is you use your entire firesteel, the firesteel tip will actually wear down to a point, which means no wasted fire steel. I also seem to get less "washboard" or all those little bumps that show up on the firesteel.
Thanks for the great content!
Thank you , Lilly! This is a lot better method to save equipment and start a fire quicker!
This method will save a lot of frustration for inexperienced people, your vids help so many ,keep up the great work, like they say work smarter not harder
Danke Schurne Guten Morgan , Lilly , thanks for sharing , with all your followers , lilly , 💖💥✍🌲🌳🌴🌵🌾
Tried this method and, of course, it works,
so obvious once you see it being done.
I just assumed that I’d bought crappy firesteels,
thanks Lily.
I used the "flying" method for a long time and i always HATED using a firesteel. Then I watched Survival Lilly and started using her "pinch down" method and I don't hate firesteel so much. LoL! It's just a good way to do it. Thank you, Lilly!
I have used both methods, but I prefer the pinch method the most. The flying method is more dependent on what/how I need to light a fire (like you state, igniting an alcohol stove). I also carry a magnesium block and have some duct tape in my fire kit. A small piece of tape wadded up, use that to catch the magnesium shavings, and I have an effective starter for wet/cold weather. My Grandfather taught me the method of saturating natural fiber twine in wax for a good tinder. Rough that up, pinch it down with a fire steel, and you have another good method of starting a fire. Love your videos Lilly!! Keep up the good work and stay strong! Gott segne meinen Freund. George B. from the USA.
Because I did not do much camping back in the day, I have used both methods for making bbq fire. I bought a firesteel to use for camping trips, but so far it has seen only bbq fire. The above method only when liquid has been used on the coals. These days I use the other method, because I found out that the organic tinder is so much better to start a fire. Meat taste is more natural. I have seen people who scrape the firesteel stick, gathering shavings, and only then they do a final firesteel strike.
Excellent video and tutorial again! I have often thought the same with this. Common sense tells me if you're closer to it you have more sparks hitting in one location which increases the chances of ignition, unless you have like you said dry tinder and a lot of it spread and you just want a spark to hit anywhere (it like you also said alcohol or another accelerant) but living in England I've often watched US channels and thought to myself that might work there, but if I were in a survival situation I'd NEVER in a million years find tinder dry like that here in England it rains on n off all the time very rarely will it go a few days with no rain in height of summer and even then at night you get dew and moisture in the air so often times the grass and foliage is wet and can stay wet if shaded so I TOTALLY agree with your method..
Great video again (as always!) Thanks Lilly! From London England 👍❤️💪😎🏴🙏
Your right Lilly using the Pinching approach then the flying method is more efficient. Great job showing the difference. Thanks.
You have it right that the "Pinching Down" method is the better way to use a Fire Steel. Thank you for another Great Video Lilly.
Besten Dank für Deine Ausführungen. Dein Video kam genau zur richtigen Zeit für mich. Mein Feuerstahl ist am Freitag angekommen und das Video wurde mir Heute am Sonntag vorgeschlagen :-). Dir einen schönen Sonntag, Beste Grüße aus Niederbayern.
I learn more from you and Venessa than anyone else. Thank you for being there.
A technique that I rarely see mentioned is very simple and Lightweight is an old manual 2 Hole pencil sharpener. This is very small and useful and is also is great for making pointed sticks for a wide variety of purposes. The shavings make great tinder quickly and the inside of the sticks are quite dry even in a wet environment.
Oh my gosh yes!! Thank you so much for writing this, what a great idea! I'm 100% going to try that.
Great idea, sharpener is cheap and very light, this is a must have in every pack, even old schoolers will appreciate this, thank you, something so cheap that can be a lifesaver, awesome
I've never seen anyone like you before. You have such great knowledge and expertise in so many things survival related Lily. You're quite an amazing person. Keep up the good work and kisses to Amy!
She did it wrong.
Striker should always follow all the way through, so an old worn fire steel should have a tip to it, like a sharpened pencil, not a flat spot in the middle so it could break off later...
you follow all the way through to the end of the rod. never wear down only the middle like she is doing. Try slowly scraping off a bit of metal then striking that. its how the actual pros do it.
I saw this once before. It made sense, and I've never used the "flying" method since. Plus, if you do pack cotton, rub it around in some Vaseline before packing it. Amazing results.
If you are prepared enough to have pre-made tinder, that's camping not survival. Most people don't carry Vaseline (petroleum jelly) with them, but many do carry a first aid kit. Antibiotic ointment (not cream) is mostly petroleum jelly, and can be used the same way on dodgy tinder you find in the field. A small cut that gets infected can kill you in a survival situation as quickly as anything else in the wild, so a tube of antibiotic is worth its weight in gold in your kit, especially if you think of it as a multi use item.
This is a great survival hack. It always looks easy on YT, but believe Lilly: it is not. Moreover, with the 'flying' technique not only do the sparks have to travel further, they also are aimed much less accurately.
Exactly what I was going to say!
She did it wrong.
Striker should always follow all the way through, so an old worn fire steel should have a tip to it, like a sharpened pencil, not a flat spot in the middle so it could break off later...
you follow all the way through to the end of the rod. never wear down only the middle like she is doing. Try slowly scraping off a bit of metal then striking that.
Some of us guys, could learn alot from this lady..WHAT WE LEARN IS WHAT WE KNOW ? Thanks lady....I watch all your videos. Your a very smart survivalist and a awesome teacher. 👌
Lily, what you say makes a lot of sense. I learned something that will prove useful. Thank you.
Awesome video Lilly! My daughter just started Cub Scout and we go camping a lot, I will teach here this method on our next trip. Thank you :)
Cotton balls or dryer lint slathered in Vaseline makes a great fire starter. I keep mine in an old 35mm film canister. I've had it for nearly 40 years.
Film cannisters - one more thing that technology has (or soon will) rob us of. They are virtually unparalleled for keeping things dry that need to stay that way. A fairly decent (but basic) survival kit can be made with one.
@@SCSlimBoiseID Prescription bottles work pretty well too.
@@everready19373 Indeed they do. 😎👍
I use empty pull bottles for my cotton swab dipped in petroleum jelly
@@Wildwestwrangler See there? Another cool repurposing for pill bottles.
Pinching Down method is Awesome!
Thank you Lilly
being orphaned and raised in a little leafy farming town called smallville i always find the best tecnique for starting fires is to stare directly at the object i wish to ignite and hey presto,bbq time! seriosly lily just found your channel as i been making a bow from yew,your a real supergirl bless!
The pinch down method is great .. also dryer lint can be stored in a zip lock bag or vacuum sealed .. its better than cotton and cost nothing to collect.. Good job Lilly. :)
My striker is made from a small fine file , with this I can file off some very small particles from the ferro rod directly into the tinder pile , place ferro rod onto tinder and one strike will ignite the tinder where there is a small concentration of ferrocerium particles . This technique will even start a piece of flat copy paper into a fire starting tinder, Never more than one strike with the striker and there is fire , thanks Lilly
LOVE HOW YOU GET TO THE POINT. GREAT JOB. KEEP IT GOING. KEN
Excellent advice. I am. Guilty of holding the steel in the air while striking it. Won’t be doing that anymore. Thanks Lilly 🙂
My favorite? The "Pinching Down Technique" by far, for most tinders. For my alcohol burners, propane/butane stoves, or Coleman-style "white gas" or dual-fuel camp stoves or lanterns, the "Flying Firesteel Technique" for the reason you stated - don't want to get burned. Of course, if I had dry/waterproof matches or a butane lighter handy, I surely would use them! Awesome tutorial. Stay safe out there.
Brilliant method … even more important if one uses flint and steel. Love your channel!
Bought a lot of fire steels in the past. Not one set of instructions that were included with any of the fire steels demonstrated the pinch down method. Only a raised method. Lilly just proved that direct contact with the tender is far better than an indirect method.
Love these demos & teaching skills videos-you sold me on the pinching down method
Hi Lilly I have been watching your videos for a few years now and been enjoying your content ever since, and yes the pinch down method I also believe is the best technique although i do recommend a larger ferro rod with a handle especially in the winter 🥶for dexterity . It’s all good information for teaching especially for the new adventures outdoors people. Keep the videos coming love your stuff,
Your method is better Lily, I'm 💯 % behind your method. You are awesome
Really good, Lilly. I appreciate this demonstration. Thank you.
Lilly, what a great demo. Nice job!
Hi Lilly. Very useful info, thanks. You are really close to 1 mil. subs!! That is awesome! Take care.
Lilly, I always enjoy your videos, regardless of the subject. Your personality draws people in.
Lily, I enjoy watching your videos and admire how close to nature and plant life you are. I recall an earlier video where you used a .270 Winchester caliber rifle for deer hunting. This center fire does work, but I saw the size and type of deer you hunt in Austria. They seem a bit smaller and more delicate than the ones we see in North America. Thus, I suggest if controlling recoil is important, you might do a video on the .243 Winchester cartridge. It is very flat shooting and hits the target with considerable impact. It is more than enough bullet for most hunting. All the best.
Pinching the tinder down also creates something like a "crater" or "bowl" where the firesteel dives in and there the sparks will be collected.
Thx for demonstrating this "striking" difference!
:-D
Thank You for attention to Detail. The difference between success and failure in extreme circumstances. Because of You Lily, I am purchasing a take down recurve bow as well. You are indeed saving Lives by preparing Us for Any Eventuality. Nature weeds out all but the Strong (and Knowledgeable)
I have tried both methods and believe that the method you showed us is the correct method to use and if you are going to be starting a fire using a firesteel then you may want cotton material with vasolene on it so the material is lubricated.
I'm huge on pre made tinders just because of the wet wood problem. If I only have natural tinder available, I try to use a magnesium capsule to get it going. That powder will just about burn through a 2x4!
... a lil' trick for you ... for a "striker" I use a old dull hacksaw blade ... I break into 2-3 lengths ... file the top edge to remove the paint ... and there you have it ... a cheap striker that re-used something old and didn't cost you anything ( and you will not mind losing it when you do ...) And as it it larger/longer it is easier to use too.
Excellent information, your a great teacher keep safe
Great video. Good to see a technique comparison. Very informative. Cheers
I prefer a third method where i pin the tinder down with my sticker the pull the ferro rod back. similar to your method the spark are larger and closer to the tinder and all land in one area unlike the flying method. but by pining with the striker you don't have the risk of stamping out your fire if you push too hard on the follow through. really enjoy your videos, thanx for sharing.
Pinching down method is certainly better. Really enjoy your videos and have learned from them. Thanks
Thank you. I have never had the opportunity of ding something like this. Going to get one and practice your method.
Valuable info! Thanks not only for sharing, but also for demonstrating.
Hey Lilly, thanks for making this important point. I just taught this method to my 7 year old son and it made it much easier for him to start a fire in birch bark.
AWESOME! Pinch down method always! Never used firesteel to light my alcohol burner...will hav to try it! 😉
Yep, good advise and an efficient use of the ferrorods. Thanks and take care.
Thank you for this demonstration. I hope things don't get bad enough that I need to use it. 😱
Excellent points, agree with you. Thank you for sharing once again.
Almost a 1,000,000 subscribers. Wow. You deserve it.
Really like the pinching down technique! Thank you!
I think Lily is not only a GREAT SURVIVAL candidate for ANY television show...but also a great partner to push survival as a partner. In Colorado, here, at altitude, you need a partner. Share survival chores and sleep, and sometimes be aware. maybe better fishing here? LOVE YOU LILY!!!
It works, save time and the ferro rod. Also saves the 90* edge on your knife or what ever you are using........... Great video Lilly
Even though it is dark I reached for my fire steel and tried your method. I also noticed you angled your striker than I do, so I tried it your way and got much better results. Thank you for teaching me a useful lesson. What kind of fire steel do you use? I have a generic non branded one which works but wondered if there was a branded one that you or your audience could recommend?
A great one is the ferro rod from Bigfoot bushcraft
Thank you, Ms Lily - excellent instruction. This explains my troubles fifty years ago when back packing on the John Muir trail above Tuolome Meadows with my first magnesium fire starter. Sucker cost me five bucks and was to be a key part of my two week adventure. Failing to understand the minimal instructions I did not understand why I was so poor at using it. Seems I was supposed to first put some magnesium powder down and then scrape some sparks, but I was leaving out the _have some more tinder down and ready to take up the resultant mini fire that would be going on_. Long story story short, if yt had existed back then, I would have had a better clue. 🤣
I love watching your videos l do learn something new of each one.keep up the great work.
Firesteel was definately the main thing I need to practise more with. Granted it was the worst (best) weather for a preparedness test with snow, rain and cold windy weather.
Pinch down method is better for sure👍🏼.
Pinching method works best . Great instructional video. Cheers
Very informative. Like the way you explained with demonstrations. I really enjoy watching your videos. Thanks
Great as always Lilly. I once saw a clip by Paul Kirtley or Ray Mears using a similar technique, pinched down like you, but with the end of the blade (still the spine but not so high up), using his thumb to control and slow the strike. This throws really big sparks and prevents the flurry of strikes blowing out some small flames that were starting. Nice to give it a go anyway 🙂 👍
Hats off to you Lilly your a clever woman !!!
More great info again. Love what you do.
You are so smart survival Lily we love you thank you and we are surviving with your knowledge and technology thank you thank you God bless you we love you and that wild strike it was 19 strikes to get it started and you started right away thank you again God bless you and your lovely family Merry Christmas
🔪✨✨👍Good advice. You could also try to hold the scraper on the tinder bundle,and pull the firesteel back ⭐⭐⭐
Can you one day do a video about upkeep for ferro rods and other metal materials like you do for knife sharpening? My ferro rod got wet and I kept it in my pack for too long and it corroded. I'd much rather see one of your videos (that I'm already subscribed to) than have to look to Google for answers, because I trust your methods more than random threads of comments on quora or reddit that I find through Google searches.
Thanks for the video Lily, it makes sense and looks right.
Lilly, thanks for the info. I never really knew which was best.
I like the pinning down method I use to do the other but I saw you doing the pin down method on one of your earlier videos way back and I tried it and it worked so much better I couldnt believe it thank you for that great video see you on the next one
Wow, excellent job, you proved your point. I’ll be using that, thanks.
Good advice, THANK YOU 😃👍
Thank You Survival Lilly. Good Job
Bang on Lilly. Always concentrate the energy.
Hi Lilly, I figured out how to light a fire with this flint. Thanks
I have yet to see anyone teach this, thank you Lilly!
You are a real pro Lilly!
Great video. We tried it with the flying sparks and never got the fire going. Thanks for the tip. This should help next bicycle camping trip 👍
I had to learnt his thorough rough experience and practice, pinching down method is generally a more sure thing to light most kinds of tinder.
Thanks Lilly, good job, bon travail merci 😊
Thanks for the lesson! You convinced me!
Hey, Lilly! My name is Jolie. I hurt my body while harvesting some natural resources in Albuquerque. Now I’m studying your vids, thanks.