I want to see the guy on the left (Serhii) argue his points in his language. She's able to talk over him because of her mastery of english, but he's got excellent points that he's unable to articulate due to how talkative Yewleea is. He's coming from a very different ideological background that makes sense to those of us who lean small government that makes no sense to big government people. Whether they are right or wrong, she's poking jabs at him at "not being on the right side" because he's questioning the narrative she wants to portray. That isn't discourse the convinces anyone. She would be a great American politician. I'd like to see Telegram stay up. Eventually people slip up and get caught. And it's much easier to do it if the information is public. The vulnerable and marginalized need something they can use that keeps them safe too. IE occupied areas and Russian dissidence.
It would have been nice to hear Serhii's thoughts and hear a complete sentence from Henry. Through all the chatter they almost got a clear thought out... While I disagree with a good chunk of the babble, I appreciate the reminder that, even in private discourse, if my "freedom" impinges immorally upon the freedom of others, I should be held accountable for my actions. Thanks.
Wow.uncomfortable. ‘Russian World’ struggling beneath an amazing intellectually well informed woman. Respect for her. The slouching gentleman was out of his element!
It seemed dangerous to me so I didn’t join telegram and warned others that a genuine Russian dissident doesn’t flee Russia and set up in the UAE, which is friendly to Putin.
I respect That lack of Ear ring! Well Done Now lets get it ON! Looking Good Sharp! Bravo. Lock Him Up, Human Trafficking, Telegraph Down... Owner? Down 2!
On the one hand, the declared reasons for his detention are laughable. It's like detaining the CEO of Apple because some criminal used an iPhone. On the other hand, I have a few questions that I had hoped journalists would be able to answer: what was he doing in Azerbaijan, under what circumstances was Telegram ban lifted in Russia, and how did he get a French passport and from whom, without even being a resident of France.
there was a government regulation in India against what’s up and many switched to telegram because it was easier to deal with. Did Indian government encourage Russia
Arresting Durov is ridiculous - going to arrest the owner of Facebook since WhatsApp and Messenger are both fully encrypted, too? Anyone can download and use them.... Any messaging app that isn't encrypted should never be used. There has to be more going on because the reasons given don't hold water. There is no way to unencrypt in the middle. Any messaging app can be used for anything!
I also think so but what you said is not the same. they are not arresting him because people use his app and do crime things.. they arrest him for not providing the EU data and moderating/reporting/blocking accounts for posting illegal things. mark Zuckerberg does.
When it's about criminality, terrorism or hate against groups of people, there are laws in democracies, and encrypted platforms have to comply, some do and they don't complain. On the other side, there are laws that protect people against arbitrary police and justice. Durov is under an investigation, you are jumping to conclusions to fast.
the p diagnosed are the worst thing aboit it... then comes theb hum. trafficking... next offer he gets is to give out all the data of those criminals.. total excess into the apl so they can track them, or jail for allowing all those crimes being on his app, which then makes that app a "market" for it...
Yewlea Henry and Serhii! 😇
What a welcome transmission! 😊
Yewleea is the voice of reason. Thanks for keeping the debate intelligent.
Informative and active discussion. I hope we see more of this.
The woman was spot on! great insights
I want to see the guy on the left (Serhii) argue his points in his language. She's able to talk over him because of her mastery of english, but he's got excellent points that he's unable to articulate due to how talkative Yewleea is.
He's coming from a very different ideological background that makes sense to those of us who lean small government that makes no sense to big government people. Whether they are right or wrong, she's poking jabs at him at "not being on the right side" because he's questioning the narrative she wants to portray. That isn't discourse the convinces anyone. She would be a great American politician.
I'd like to see Telegram stay up. Eventually people slip up and get caught. And it's much easier to do it if the information is public. The vulnerable and marginalized need something they can use that keeps them safe too. IE occupied areas and Russian dissidence.
I noticed that too, haha.. funny
We meet ANOTHER UA member >>> we hear him on voice overs >>> NOW we "see" him ! Welcome Serhii ! Great to "meet" you !!!!
Ibp, always a pleasure to bump into you..this is not Serhii's first appearance in these sessions however, not like you to take your eye off the ball 😄
It would have been nice to hear Serhii's thoughts and hear a complete sentence from Henry. Through all the chatter they almost got a clear thought out... While I disagree with a good chunk of the babble, I appreciate the reminder that, even in private discourse, if my "freedom" impinges immorally upon the freedom of others, I should be held accountable for my actions. Thanks.
Love her, nice dynamic you three!🤣🫶🫡🇬🇧💪
Wow.uncomfortable. ‘Russian World’ struggling beneath an amazing intellectually well informed woman. Respect for her. The slouching gentleman was out of his element!
It seemed dangerous to me so I didn’t join telegram and warned others that a genuine Russian dissident doesn’t flee Russia and set up in the UAE, which is friendly to Putin.
Free pavel!!
It was a "Femme Fatal" in France for Durov who drag him down.
Slava Ukraine 💛 💙 ✌️ 💯 vielen dank 👍💖💖💖🤝
He has 4-5 official passports
People don't fear giving information about their crimes to the FSB. Surely no one will be blackmailed I guess.
😊😅😅
Dear journalists. Hes has been detained, not arrested as for now. There's a difference.
En mon pays France 🇫🇷 nous sommes un pays de règle de loi
Telegone!
😀😆👍
they gonna tell him give us a backdoor in and we let you go just dont talk to anyone anout it and you will not be prosecuted
I respect That lack of Ear ring! Well Done Now lets get it ON! Looking Good Sharp! Bravo.
Lock Him Up, Human Trafficking, Telegraph Down... Owner? Down 2!
On the one hand, the declared reasons for his detention are laughable. It's like detaining the CEO of Apple because some criminal used an iPhone. On the other hand, I have a few questions that I had hoped journalists would be able to answer: what was he doing in Azerbaijan, under what circumstances was Telegram ban lifted in Russia, and how did he get a French passport and from whom, without even being a resident of France.
there was a government regulation in India against what’s up and many switched to telegram because it was easier to deal with. Did Indian government encourage Russia
Does the woman have any evidence for what she explained ?
20 years ago Apple San Bernadino CA
Arresting Durov is ridiculous - going to arrest the owner of Facebook since WhatsApp and Messenger are both fully encrypted, too? Anyone can download and use them.... Any messaging app that isn't encrypted should never be used. There has to be more going on because the reasons given don't hold water. There is no way to unencrypt in the middle. Any messaging app can be used for anything!
I also think so but what you said is not the same. they are not arresting him because people use his app and do crime things.. they arrest him for not providing the EU data and moderating/reporting/blocking accounts for posting illegal things.
mark Zuckerberg does.
When it's about criminality, terrorism or hate against groups of people, there are laws in democracies, and encrypted platforms have to comply, some do and they don't complain. On the other side, there are laws that protect people against arbitrary police and justice. Durov is under an investigation, you are jumping to conclusions to fast.
Il est un citoyen français et il a désobéit la loi
Freedom of expression and privacy doesn't mean saying or doing whatever you want.
Télécrime sera telepartir lol
Web obscurité
Ask why he isn’t Russian?
got a link to that anorexia group? I am feeling fat
Yewlea est ukrainienne ou américaine ??
the p diagnosed are the worst thing aboit it...
then comes theb hum. trafficking...
next offer he gets is to give out all the data of those criminals..
total excess into the apl so they can track them,
or jail for allowing all those crimes being on his app, which then makes that app a "market" for it...
Everyone knows about Dark web
Comment TEST.
Telegram has become part of the dark web
Your smugness of the subject matter is a bit much.
Yea the lady is annoying
Nah, your a BOT. GTH.
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Elle est très intelligente
@@migproductions4045 - I'm pro-Ukraine, pro-freedom, and anti-Russia, and yes that Yulia was annoying.
And now we are fucked...