DIY 1909 Fire Kindler: A Timeless Way to Start Campfires
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Discover the 1909 Fire Kindler, a homemade fire starter crafted from readily available materials that harkens back to the days of Classic Camping. In this video, we’ll show you how to make and use this vintage fire starter, a favorite of our forefathers for lighting campfires and cook fires with ease. Step into history and learn a timeless skill that connects us to the resourcefulness of generations past!
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Wax would work also. But back then probably expensive back then. Lard is tallo.
@@waverider501lard is from pigs. Tallow is from cattle or sheep.
All you folks, bellyachin' about how this is so much work, remember that part of the reason for sharing this is HISTORICAL! This is part of history. It was a common product in 1909. Maybe you don't need to do it. That's fine. I wouldn't. I'd just use the diesel soaked teabags that mentioned in another reply. But even if you don't want to do this, it has historical context.
True! Thank you for saying this!
People talking about how much work this is doesn't realize how incredible a 30 minute burn time on a fire starter is. You can start much larger sections of wood, dry out wet wood, or use this item alone for a quick meal.
Yeah i really don't. I've never needed more than 5 minutes. There's always kindling to be had.
@@edsiefker1301 Today there is always kindling around, but back then the majority of the population used fire for heating and cooking and they basically picked their surrounding clean of everything they could burn. There is a reason why you only found trees and parks in the upper class city districts, because in places where they weren't protected by the law, they would be quickly turned into fire wood by the working class and poor. Cities, Urban centers need to be supplied constantly for people to survive in them. The moment they aren't city people will use anything they can get their hands on without getting punished.
You get it! Thanks for the great comment.
If anyone has lived in wet country, they know how impossible it it to find anything to start a fire. Even out of rain it's all wet!
@roberthartburg266 if not much around for kindling this would be good and easy back then. Give kids something to do. If wood and kindling cost money this would save money. Also if you are in wet country there is not always something to start fires.
Former 50 of 74 years a hobo. Clever way to start fires. Now I used what was commonly available for me. I would carve long splinters from discarded railroad ties. Wrapping in part of a paper sack and tie with twine. Once it caught it burnt under almost any condition. Not a actual fire from the ties tho, as they smoke too much and contain pitch. Just to start a fire. Worked very well with even green wood.
That's an absolutely great idea, my friend! If you don't mind, I might use that in a future video.
@@WayPointSurvival Anything I comment that seems reasonable and easy is OK to use as much as you want. It's all about surviving the worse that can happen to folks and even the little things might make all the difference. Even with my 50 years experience you still teach me new and useful stuff.
This is incredible. I used to roll up newspapers and tie strings around the newspaper and dip them in wax. That was my firestarter when i was in scouting
That works good too. However, it doesn't burn as long
Wow, that took me way back 60 plus years to a memory I can't quite call up. I think some of the Old Timers or even my relatives on the East Coast may have still been using these. My grandpa still cooked on a wood stove instead of his gas stove. I think I have seen them or watched someone use one and talk about it. Your demo was like a reminder, remembering what you were going to do. Years later I experimented stuffing various flammables and accelerants into toilet paper tubes... used up some trash, but sure didn't burn 25 minutes! People could hand make good stuff in the days when they only had time, no money, and any dime counted a lot! Keep on, brother, may you continue to find and film these things! Wish I could get the grandkids to watch the videos with me!
I'm glad the video brought back a memory for you! Folks back then were certainly inventive, for sure!
I appreciate your Hobo series just as much as the 1800s series. Keep on making the videos James. I watch everyone you put out. God bless.
Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate you watching!
This was awesome. I really dont understand why some people cant just look at something from a historical perspective. Yes there are better and more efficient ways to start a fire, but this is LICING HISTORY!! Thanks man
I'm glad you appreciated the historical perspective! Thanks so much for watching!
Love learning the old ways of our forefathers.
Thank you for sharing.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I knew an older gentleman farmer that had an iron cook stove in his kitchen that he used for heat in the winter besides cooking on it. His fire starter was a coffee can with kerosene in it and he soaked shelled corn cobs in it. Time to build a fire he put one in the firebox put his wood in and lit the corncob. 👍🇺🇸😎🙏🏽✌🏻
Yes, that was a very common way to start fires in the old days. Thanks for watching!
That's the way my Granmother lit her kitchen stove. Those old dry cobs weren't just good for wiping your azz😂
It's interesting that our ancesors were able to come up with whatever they needed to survive. Even in the early 1800s they invented, built and made the machines they needed to make more machines that eventually mass prduced appliance, building materials, farming equipment and yes, automobiles. I remember my grandpaarents having a coal fired heater and the heated soapstone to take to bed for warmth in the dead of winer. And a coal fired cook stove for meals.
Great idea i use a paper towel roll pet bedding dryer lint and wax
Works great!
@WayPointSurvival certainly does
Great project we make something similar in scouts but we pack that mixture into a paper / cardboard egg carton then dip it in the wax
Yes, that works great, too!
I’ve done this too
I love when you drop new videos, you put so much time and work into them. I really appreciate the entertainment on these cold Canadian nights.👍🇨🇦🇺🇸
Glad to be of service on those cold nights! Thanks for watching!
This is great....I have always carry a pack of birthday candles and popsicle sticks in a sandwich bag and a lighter when I'm hiking...I also use veg. oil and candles at home (if the sticks are damp) in starting a wood cooking fire in my grill... ( a frisbee is light enough to carry and good for fanning the caught flame)
my grandmother showed me how to use old newspapers rolled up tight and candle wax to use as a match or fire starter
That works too, just doesn't burn very long.
Yes, a bit complicated BUT there’s much to learn from self reliance processes of our past. Awesome work James!
I appreciate that! It's important to learn from the past.
That's a good winter project.sitting in the camp. To wet or cold to be out... Built several hundred one winter similar to way point survival
Sounds like a great way to spend a cold day!
I’ll have to file this one away for a project with my youngest knucklehead. Thanks for sharing it
You're welcome, my friend!
I always smash the like button before I even watch, great video as always.👍🇨🇦🇺🇸
Awesome! Thank you!
You the Man James Bender! Thanks for another great production man.
You're welcome! I'm glad you liked it.
Honor a los antepasados que sobrevivieron a tiempos hostiles con esos conocimientos que nos dejaron, excelente video.
Gracias!
That's fantastic for lighting fires in damp places. I suspect it would work just as well without the pine sap and tallow. Great video.
You might be right, but those ingredients were designed to add some extra punch to the fire kindler!
That’s amazing… Who knew a fire starter could be so complicated.. Last time I was in the woods, I all I had was a match, a little piece of paper and some dried twigs… And I didn’t seem to have a problem.
Yes, they had quite a lot of complicated fire starters back in the day. However, remember that they were trying to start wood stoves and coal stoves with these.
@ Oh absolutely,,,, You can’t make a joke about that…. Right..
I love your videos and watch every one of them. Your projects are simple enough but yet entertaining enough to hold my nieces and nephews' attention. We have done several projects and hobo recipes from your videos. They love doing them and actually put down their electronics and live like real kids for the afternoon.
That's wonderful to hear!
We still have an open fire in our house and we make our own 'firelighters' We tie paper up in knots then dip in old candle wax. These are great for starting the fire and burn well. so easy to make (they smell nice too as they are made with the old bits of room fragrance candles lol). A simpler version of those you have made but the same principle.
Sounds great!
id think this would be an emergency fire starter, nice idea though 😊 ta for the vid 😊
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the video. I found it interesting and entertaining to watch you create this firestarter and talk about why it was created. We always hear about big events in history and those are interesting but sometimes it is just as interesting to hear about little things that may have been seen as just minor details of daily life to folks who were just living those lives in the past.
I also think that the. spirit or idea of these firestarters is still very much around, today, in the form of firestarters that people make by stuffing an empty toilet paper roll with cotton or dryer lint then coating the tube with wax and sealing the ends with wax.
There are commercially available, natural firestarters, sometimes called 'Tumbleweeds', that are long, thin, shredded pieces of wood or similar material coated in wax then formed/cut into balls. That stuff might even be excelsior or similar. So, I'm thinking one could take from the past as well as more comtemporary times, mix excelsior with just a little wax, stuff an empty toilet paper roll with the mixture then dip the roll in melted wax and seal the ends with a little melted wax. It would be pretty easy to churn out several of those at once and it isn't like they would ever 'go bad'. When ready to use you could rip a few places in one end of the tube for easier lighting just as you did with the brown paper.
Thanks! That's a great idea for a fire starter!
Great job James! Thanks for showing how to work Safely with the Gulf Wax & Double Boiler!☮️
You're welcome and thanks for watching!
This is how I pot guitar pick ups, or make wood finish for tool hanels, ladders, out door furnature and such.
Linseed oil and parifen, for the tools.
Beeswax and parifen for the pick ups.
I do this out doors!
I would imagine these are great for a snowy winter camp if you make a few and bring with you...i also like to sit and make things and experiment while sitting at camp, great idea, take it easy mate from the uk 👌👌
That's a great idea!
It looks like a fun project that the Grandkids would love to make, and of course, burn. Not really practical for today, yet several 'shortcut' methods came to mind watching this.
I like it. Good stuff. (Not kidding, many of these little builds make great projects to do with the kids!)
It's always fun to make things the "old way," even if they're not super practical!
@WayPointSurvival
I actually agree completely. Great videos.
Very handy trick! Especially if you gotta work with what you got! Thanks for the tips! I actually am going to hang onto this knowledge. Because not only is this a good project. You can store some of these away in your survival shelters/cabins for when you need them! Or if you gotta bug out doing this will help keep you busy!
Thanks for the Info - I saw one of theses years ago, on my grandfather porch, did not know what it was...
Glad I could help you identify it!
You can boil water in about 8 minutes. You have enough heat to cook a meal on, in your pocket! My wood Planer makes some nice Wood Excelsior and I have a box full ! Thank you for all the great videos.
Thanks! I'm glad you're finding the videos useful.
I have an old wooden spill plane for cutting wood into thin strips - dip them in wax and you have a 3 minute match. I got it in an antique store and the guy said, if you can tell me what it is for, you can have it for free. :
I've never made a 1909 fire starter, but floral wire works for everything I've ever used tripwire for.
Absolutely. That would be a great substitute!
Well done. Sometimes I just want a small fire. This and some of the other comments inspire me to make smaller units for my Kelly Kettle. Thanks!
You're welcome!
This would be fun to make in a survival class. For a bug out bag, i would be able to bring a dozen of these with or do what you did here with supplies.
Absolutely! Great idea!
Can't wait to see what it is!
Thanks for watching in advance!
The desing makes me think of a torch. So I looked your channel name and "torch" and lo and behold, there it was- a hobo torch! Great content, sir 👍
Glad you enjoyed the video!
James, As Always Thank You For Your Time and Information Showing US How To Make the 1909 Fire Kindlers! God Bless and Be Safe!
You're welcome, and thanks for watching, my friend!
wow that is a great fire starter! thank you so much for the info.
Glad you liked it!
something I haven't seen before. thanks for another tool for the toolbox.
You're welcome!
You are the Hobo King! Thanks for sharing!😅
Thanks so much!
I make something similar with corrugated cardboard rolled up in a toilet roll, impregnated with candle wax, amd a few matches poked in the end for good measure.
Lightweight.
All you need is fuel wood.
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LIKE YOUR CAP!!!
Thanks!
I really enjoyed this,it’s always interesting to see some of the ways people would make things with what was most readily available in there time.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Cool idea. Really appreciate the return of the old way. God bless.
You're welcome! May God bless you too!
Great video!
Thanks!
This is great, I may very well make some of these in the summer.
Apart from the resin, I think I have all these things, or similar :)
Sounds great!
Muchas gracias por otro video fantastico,solo para entendidos,saludos desde La Pampa Argentina.
¡Muchas gracias, amigo!
Gracias por pasar tus videos al español 💪😉👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks for watching them!
This is very good 👍 ❤
I use cardboard tubes, cut or sawn into sections as a firestarter.
Your ones are better though ❤
Thanks for watching!
A good suggestion for the wood, would be the pine doorway shims, used when installing doors. You get a small bundle of maybe 10 pcs. These would split easily like you show.
Thanks! That's a great idea!
Thanks, love this channel😎😎
Glad you enjoy it!
It is an interesting device for starting a fire. The story telling is very interesting. Keep doing these excellent videos
Thanks so much!
Hey, making dynamite is simpler, and the results are explosive!!🧨
Lol
Exceptional video. Really useful information.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Handy on them damp days
Absolutely!
Thanks, James, I'll have to give this a try
It is pretty cool!
Very interesting.
I'm glad you liked it!
Thanks for the video James and happy holidays to you and your family❤
You're welcome, and Merry Christmas to you too!
Hello James. First off I want to tell you I really enjoy your videos. The re-purposing things for something else is especially interesting. Reminded me of a couple of books I bought years ago when my son and daughter were scouting. I’ve reordered the books and waiting for them to come in. Books by Diana Thomas. Roughing it easy books 1 & 2. Has all kinds of good ideas. Camping recipes like kabobs, hobo dinner foil packets. Cooking on heated rocks (no kidding, I remembered this one when I watched one of your vids on hobo camp). Also a reflector oven made from cookie sheets and a solar oven. Both big hits at boy and Girl Scouts. All kinds of other stuff I think you and your followers would find useful and interesting. You might be interested in reading them if you run across them. Again, thanks for the great vids and ideas. Both from the historical and utilitarian point of view.
Absolutely! I actually have both of those books myself!
Thanks very much sir, I really enjoyed that, its a great fire starter and one that would be very handy to have in a cabin or in a hot tent ready for a time your fingers are to cold too be struggling, Yes thear are lots of different ways to make a fire starter but your video is about history and lurning things from the past ,I now know something new, thanks very much 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
It would be fun to make a bunch and give to my camping friends. I think instead of cutting off the excess wire, I'd cross it over to the other side of the cylinder to hold the excelsior plug in place.
Yes, you can definitely do that!
Mtn man here watching 👍👍 cool 😎 video thanks
Glad you liked it, my friend!
My daddy taught me the things that you teach.
Excellent!
Really good video, I like making things so this is on my list to make.keep the projects coming thanks for the information
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Cotton or jute twine probably be better than wire but James was showing us the original method I’m sure. Get the family to help and make a hundred or so could be a fun rainy Saturday.
The person that invented that said that the wire was necessary to keep the air flow between the slats. Anything that would burn up would not work.
That is really cool, James!
Appreciate the effort and history!
You're welcome!
Cool, thank you
You're welcome!
Hello from Oklahoma! Cool project! Good Video! They are still making all kinds of contrivances to start a fire. Interesting history.
Thanks for watching!
Awesome
Thanks!
Very cool long burning fire starter. Love these vids. Happy holidays.
Glad you liked it!
Interesting 💯👍 Ciao from Italy 🇮🇹👍💯
Pretty good, I remember grandparents would collect fatwood whenever they webt out
Yes, I thought that for an alternative you could make this with fatwood and it would make it way better!
My parents still do
Thats a handsome pocket watch you have there at 12:05. I know they are slowly becoming a past piece but man they are stylish
Thanks so much!
I've found that a paper bag full of stale tortilla chips, potato chips, or about any fried snack will work as well as anything. Old pop tarts work well, and a paper towel tube stiffed with bacon fat soaked paper towels makes a great fire starter too.
Havent tried dried out old french fries yet, but im planning on it. Just leave them in a car on a hot day or two and i figure leftovers from Five Guys will start five fires easy!
Thanks for watching!
Great presentation & very informative !
Thank you so much, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Great project, thanks and I used pencil sharpener shavings instead of ‘excelsior’.
Merry Christmas 🎄
That's a great idea!
I liked it.
Thanks!
James, Great info ty
Thanks so much, my friend!
Way more complicated for a fire starter. But I understand the history you are presenting! Love your vids. Please keep making them!
Thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
yep - had to do something with your spare time .... before youtube ;
Cool stuff man
I appreciate the referral to Logsdon. Ive never heard of them before. I plan to use them! And they appear to be located near Charles Deam Wilderness. I hope i can visit their shop sometime
Thanks, and I hope you enjoy them! They have a lot of good items!
Cool content bro! Always a big smile, I like that
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
Another informative vid. Thank you!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Good video James, thanks for sharing, YAH bless brother !
You're welcome! God bless you too!
Thats a serious fire starter.❤❤❤
Thanks for sharing the old ideas.😝👊 how many did they get for 25 cents?
I wonder what it cost them to make and how much profit they got. They certainly worked hard for there money in them days. Cheers from New Zealand.🌏🌏🌏🇳🇿🇳🇿🇳🇿🌿🌿🌿🥝🥝🥝💯💯💯💯💯
I'm not sure, of the exact price as I was unable to find it listed in the old literature.
Genius!
Thanks for watching!
You could use the thin copper wire from an old electrical contractor, relay or transformer.
You're right, that would work!
nice green flames for the kids too
A good way to bind the sticks where the wire won't be left behind is maybe use some twine. It'll burn up with the rest. Great little item I'll be adding to my overland kit.
The original inventor said in the brief that went along with the patent that wire was necessary to keep the sticks apart for proper airflow. Good idea though.
@WayPointSurvival if you tie 2 or 3 knots in between each stick that SHOULD allow proper airflow.
Cool video
Thanks!
Interesting thanks
You are welcome!
GREAT INFO!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
I make firestarters by using paper egg cartons, melt old candle stubs and pour into each of 12 cups. Add in wood planer shavings from my shop, much as can fit. Coarse sawdust will also work, like from a chainsaw.
While the wax is still liquid, poke two strike anywhere kitchen matches headfirst into each one. (The matches are backups, if I dont have anything else, I can dig them out with a knife or fishhook, and they’re waterproofed, embedded in the wax)
After the wax cools hard, cut into 12 starters. The wax saturates the paper carton, and they work even if they get dunked in water; just light one corner of the single wax filled cup. Burns for 20-30 mins, enough to get your fire going.
I carry two or three of these in my pack here in Alaska. I can make a fire whenever I need to, and I live in a rainforest where everything is wet.
I make two or three dozen of these at a time, maybe once per year. And save old candles or get them from church when theyre going to replace them.
Yes, that's another good way to get it done!
Gute Idee, Holzwolle Kiefer, Brandbeschleuniger. Ich versuche mal ähnliches mit einer Hülle aus Birkenrinde, Birkenpech und Stroh .In den Supermarkt zu laufen spar ich mir. Alles Gute
Excellent!
I feel like these could be made more quickly and easily by skipping the wire part and gluing the sticks to the paper flat at first, let dry, and then a final gluing to make the "tube" - light from just one end at first should give plenty of time for the sticks to catch fire before the paper burns through and the contents spill everywhere 😂
Would love to know if this would work, or if the wiring up is really essential.
According to the inventor, the wire is absolutely essential as it keeps the sticks apart and allows for airflow during the burn.
@@WayPointSurvival great to know, thank you!
: Always informative, practical.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the history everyone should be prepping for 2025 'cause it's gonna be a bumpy ride. I take toilet paper rolls stuff them with dryer lint, used dryer sheets and some crumbled candle wax then wrap them with duct tape. They are water tight and when ready to use cut a slit on one side to breath and one match to light the tape. Stay safe eh:)
Indeed. Those work well too!
That's pretty cool, wonder if there's something to replace the wire
Twine or paracord just have to make two good knots between each slat of wood
Don't use anything that would burn up because it will not allow airflow between the slats which the inventor said was important.