This California Valley Is in a Battle with L.A. Over Water
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- The century old dispute between Los Angeles Department of Water and Power (LADWP) and ranchers in the eastern Sierras has begun anew now that the LADWP is turning off the taps to the same people they swindled the water away from a hundred years earlier. LADWP blames climate change, ranchers are fighting back with a lawsuit; we'll be right there in the middle to get both takes while also talking to a historian to understand how it got this way - and how it gave way to the city of Los Angeles.
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people forget that a lot of California is agriculture, it's an extremely diverse state and is not just filled with surfers and vegans.
That version of California is a stereotype and is limited only to places like the Hollywood and San Francisco areas. The vast majority of California is filled with regular, hard working people of all levels.
David Duarte THANK GOD SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS
Yeah. Agriculture in the desert where they have to rely on the 'kindness of strangers' for their water. Its ridiculous. WTH farm the desert?
i think everyone who's not retarded knows that, even i non-american.
you shouldn't really have to write this down.
More vegans = less demand for cattle ranching.
And so the Water Wars begin.
Twas ever thus.
More like 6 rich ranchers are fighting for a City (of 9 million) to provide them with water (eventhough they are OUTSIDE the city limits)
So much for 'by my own bootstraps "
@Hoàng Nguyên Some areas will get more, some will get less. Part of the problem is that we have had subsidized water turning unusable land into farming/ranching/living space over the last century and a half, and those arid regions are getting more arid. Meanwhile other areas are seeing record rainfall and flooding. The heat is energy, moving things around more.
Jai T I never saw myself being in a water war before...
Hoàng Nguyên no there are not water shortages everywhere. Some places that where deserts become forests, some Forrest become deserts ect. It’s climate change
We need to start investing in more desalination projects. California is next to the biggest ocean in the world.
@Jimmy wow you dumbfuck
@@mohnish7653 very dumb ✔
@Jimmy Well, I imagine that if the polar ice caps are melting, the oceans would be rising...
@Jimmy lmao wow u did not pay attention to basic science class
ice melts water rises lmao
So you pay a fortune for your water?
You drive up north from SoCal I remember seeing signs to give more water to farmers. Miles for miles you’ll see these signs off the freeway in the middle of nowhere.
LA is the reason California is going to go bankrupt
@@mylifeisamememylifeispathe3140 and realize L.A brings alot of fucking money into California
As someone from the central valley. Yes we need water but not for the farmers. They are selling their water in order to hit their quotas for water usage for their operations therefore if they don't use as much water as they did last year they won't get the same amount as they got the year previous so what they do is they will dump water wastefully or they sell it while communities around them we're going dry having to buy bottled water and boiled unsanitized water just to take a bath. don't feel bad for the farmers just like I don't feel bad for these Farmers because they sold their land now they're mad not our fault and I don't even live in LA I'm in Northern California now
California needs plants that can remove salt from sea water. The ice in the mountains is gone. It isn't coming back.
String Monkey you boil it and collect the steam. Its simple but they don’t want everyone to have water
Maybe it's getting a bit crowded in the LA area.
Population controls wouldn't be a bad idea. Overpopulation of a desert city has far reaching consequences.
Why? Both per capita and total urban water use in California have fallen over the last couple of decades even as the population has increased. It's generally more efficient for people to live in dense urban areas as opposed to being more spread out.
@@FPOAK It would be an improvement to over time shift dense population centers to regions better able to support them. That is obvious
@@FPOAK Its more efficient on the East Coast where they built there infrastructure to support the population increase. whether you believe in God or not he did not intend for millions of people to live in a desert using water for more than just drinking.
@@vaneokmi Why?
LA's mission should be to get people to leave LA.
Yeah! Foreigners from other states
Just rich white ppl are moving in
Jason He isn’t saying it with a racist intention. It’s a political statement. The longer you live in the US the more aware of the bull shit you become. The American Dream fades. They bring in people who are hopeful and ignorant that over time become disillusioned, the same happened to us. -Vietnam Refugee
Trevor Paul lets be honest though the American dream is coming to a land that isn’t yours and making something of yourself. That’s what the very first Americans did lol
@Jimmy Oh yeah, Pollution filled weather. soo nice.
No one ever speaks on the fact that we have to address over population somehow. It was a mistake for humans to develop massive urban centers like L.A. Las Vegas and Phoenix.
@Donald Kasperall lies. unlimited immigration does not exist. Nor is it what "democrats" want. 5 billion of the world's poor wants to come here...? Maybe, but literally impossible for 99.9% of them to get here.
These are Ranchers not farmers.
I think they grow beards tho.
Mysterio Martinez farmers also have been asking for more water given that they grow the majority of food for the state if not country.
@@parkette11 Indeed & thank you. 🙂
parkette11 that’s a lie LOL, the majority of food in the US is imported
samo cloth amigo same cloth...
They owned the land and water rights and sold them to LA. How do these ranchers not understand that when you sell something, you don’t own it anymore?
Californians: lets bring back water engineering projects.
1 CA judge: Nah
NIMBYs: "Umm so can you like build them somewhere else so I don't have to pay for it?"
Jhonny Un poco loco Bravo but I thought immigrant pay taxes.
@@djeieakekseki2058 of course they do, the migrants in the caravan coming up through Mexico are filling in their tax forms and sending them electronically as they march upwards, such brave souls...
Jhonny Un poco loco Bravo Its important to note that water projects are not part of entitlement spending.
5:35 "We got the rights to the water and took what was ours."
Hmmm.... 🤔🤔🤔
Forget it, Jake; it's Chinatown"
One of the best movies ever
Gold. Finest gold
No water for farmers and ranchers but water for the green lawns in LA?
how about along the freeway vegetation. Looks like the County uses millions of water on weeds
This seems like half-news. You failed to mention all the ranches growing fruits and nuts for all these fruits and nuts living in L.A.
" If you take water for agricultural purposes, you have to replace that water and SOMEONE has to pay for that" says the dude in glass that works for the city...Having to pay for water that is produced my mother nature smgdh
They don't know what their talking about bro 😆
If you let nature do its thing, the Owens Valley would be a thriving agricultural area. Los Angles has zero "rights" to water that would not normally flow its direction. If they can't survive on their own water works projects, ie: more reservoirs, ground water and desalinization. Then they ought to pay a hefty fee for the displacement of water resources. Diminishing those who live in Owens Valley, by calling them "just 6 ranchers" is what any greedy imperialist would say.
The sad fact remains, that the day the aqueduct was completed, is what put the nail in the coffin for the economic growth of that region. It could have been a large population center. (especially by now) The weather ranges from 4 seasons, plenty of water, the soil is fertile (or easily can be made so) and it's strikingly beautiful.
This right here is a prime example as to why California needs to be broken up into separate states. At least, if this was East California, they'd have legitimate financial claims to be able to sell the water, but be able to maintain enough for their own needs. They grow larger and have more water needs, tough shit... the price for water just went up. This natural economic cycle actually would encourage development in Los Angles' own water works infrastructure. At some point, a bean counter would ask, "does it make sense to keep paying East California for water, when we could desalinate for 1/3rd the cost?" And thus technological advancements are encouraged.
Desalination sounds logical but it is very expensive - requiring many big filters and a lot of power.
Israel master that technology. Why can't the tech hub of the world, CA, do the same?
@@animewatch4213, considering that Japan built their whole high-speed rail system in the 1970s, and CA is struggling to complete their first line, here in 2019, it's no surprise to me. Work in the U.S is becoming more and more slow and inefficient (at least nowadays).
It’s just laziness no one wants change
Use nuclear AND desalination
Nuclear is the safest cleanest cheapest energy we have and all you need is a coastline
Living in the desert without a water supply should be expensive. Los Angeles needs to work toward water independence at any cost. The rest of the state (and the West) suffer because LA continues to grow and grow without their own water supply. Desalinate and maybe even build a few reservoirs.
Perhaps it was a bad idea to create large communities in open desert. The very anti-organic, Los Angeles!
That's capitalism for you. Like it or hate it.
@@ramirogonzalez7153 Not capitalism so much as ignorance and short-sightedness. Same goes for Vegas and other big cities in the middle of deserts.
Keep in mind, the farmers and ranchers in CA are mostly in the same position. They drained their aquifer decades ago and have overfarmed/overranched for ages. They have so ruined the local ecosystem that if not for all the imported water their land would turn to desert pretty quickly.
@@neeneko I don't separate the farmers in this. The land is desert by nature. Those that chose to farm there 100yrs ago and all those that followed are fools.
@@calamityjade3075 that is fair. I am used to the sagebrush people ranting about how they deserve all the land and water, and how their ancestors 100 years ago had plenty of water so their 100x production should have plenty too.
In 1990: Meanwhile in Africa
In 2019: Meanwhile in America
lol reap what you sow
Sorry but beef production is one of the least efficient uses of water imaginable. The portion of the state's water used residentially is tiny compared to the portion used for agriculture, yet water conservation campaigns always focus on telling people to take shorter showers rather than focusing on the industries using many times more water than the total of everyone's showers. All urban water use only makes up 10% of the state's total water use, and people were able to cut this by 25% during the drought. Why is it too much to ask the meat and dairy industries to make changes?
About time we started getting used to a diet of bugs. Climate change is only gonna get worse.
Fracking I heard also consumes a lot of water. Green new deal makes more sense every day
@@ngusumakofu1 climate change huh? hmmmmmmm.
But if you don't leave enough water for the ones raising your food then you won't have a city to live in
If this issue has been going on for a century, why are both sides not working together to solve it, who is profiting....
catalinacurio nestle profits from it. They steal water from California. I suggest you look it up if you want to find out more information from it.
@@alejandrodiaz3754 Thank you.
well you can build more mountains with more snow maybe? or put fridges there to make more snow maybe? no?
Why would they work together? Democrats don't care about old white ranchers.
Politicians profit everytime
The landscape is beautiful.
their ancestors stole the land and the government doesnt even charge them for their mortgages/tax (since they leased it prior to 1902) and their complaining about income, spoiled.
It is not just the ranchers that suffer due to water removal but the habitat!
Christine oh no that can’t be. Liberal democrats would never ruin the habitat😂😂 they just ruin everything
that habitat was dry before man
Meanwhile in the Midwest we have gotten more rain this June than ever recorded. So much rain that crops got planted very late.
Wow. So cool. You must be sexy and smart too. Lmao btw you’re being treaded on and you still do fucking nothing. Don’t fly that flag unless you grow a pair and start some shit.
gatewaysolo104 No California state got billions from federal tax payers and making all the other states suffer. California needs to deal with their own problems and policies . We gave them enough already for failed Bay Area subway, planes and fires- just this year alone. All recent and unethical handouts at the expense of all of the other states. We need $$ for floods
I wish this report would have dug into the ways in which all cities in desert communities can implement laws that decrease frivolous water consumption. Should California, a desert community, be allowed to have green lawns? should communities develop incentives for water catchment systems? should individual property owners be incentivized to use grey water for gardens and trees? Why does this report not include how accurate the claim of climate change is in relation to ranching? The city of LA isn't the only villain in this story.
And California isn’t a desert community. Just shithole SO CAL is. You’re turning the rest of the state into the desert with your consumption and greed!
What's baffling is that on paper this is a sound idea as water levels would rise and fall. But when you take too much water away from an area it tends not to replenish as well as before. Like an unplugged bathtub. What I want to know is what's LA's plan when the water in Owens Valley dries up? Mono County might just get abandoned but that might just stop the complaining not the loss of water. And there's a particularly dry yet agricultural county next door, Kern County, who's basically on standby for when LA County comes looking for more water.
I love the idea of desalination, but there's a fundamental problem. Desalination to provide the water would cost more in energy than the ranchers make using the same amount of water. That means it's more economical to pay the ranchers their current income as a stipend and then not give them the copious amounts of water required for agriculture. However, giving money is an entitlement. But if it will cost LA more money to give them the water, so isn't that a bigger entitlement?
This is a tough situation, no doubt, and I suspect LA will take the least economic option, because it's California after all.
How much water is lost due to evaporation along the aqueduct? How much water could remain in Owens Valley if we covered the aqueduct. Same question for the central California aqueduct?
@Livid Creature how do you think it works? According to the California Water Project, roughly 40% of the water pumped to southern California is lost from evaporation. If we created a more efficient water transport system, we'd have more water for both regions.
We should build floating solar panels over our aqueducts and reservoirs to generate electricity and conserve the resource. Build a smarter more efficient system for the next century.
The new pipelines were designed to solve that, along with keeping the water clean, but the new Governor has canceled the project. Maybe we will get 1 built, but I somehow doubt it because there is something sinister going on in Government these days. Cali seems to be on the list of things to destroy & overlook. They want only the rich & the poor should move onto other states. Sad for many of us who were born in Cali & now we can find no affordable housing.
@book marks California is sitting on a huge surplus. We need to spend that money on our infrastructure and invest in our future. Spending on young immigrants will actually save money on our medical industry. A lot cheaper to have preventative care than trying to solve an emergency at the last minute.
@book marks keep blaming poor, brown people for your problems. I'm sure you're struggling to compete against immigrants in the job market.
raising cattle in a water-short area does not make sense and leads to inevitable conflict as supplies diminish because of climate change. besides the US, like Europe, has an enormous oversupply of beef. Ranchers and farmers have to adjust to changing realities like all of us.
Who TF decided to build a city in the fucking desert?! Lmao
Yet alone the most populated county in the United States. These ranchers are not the only ones affected by the lack of water coming in. The entire central valley of California, which are farms as far as the eye can see with some of the most fertile soil. These farms make up 1% of the farm land in US, but produce 8% of the US food supply and 60% of the WORLDS nut supply. There is also a legal fight for the water rights of the Colorado River between las Vegas, Phoenix, Los Angeles and a lot more communities that depend on the water supply from that river and lake Mead (Hoover dam), which is also dwindling in water shortage through out the years. It's more then just a few cow ranchers, and it's becoming a very serious issue. I hope this opens some people eyes on how sensitive the communities are in southern California and brings out some conversations on what's the best decisions to be made for our futures.
San Luis reservoir in Merced county is owned by LA and it’s 4 and a half hours away
Q: "Are you the villain? "
A: "everyone is doing it.."
weird that the county was watering ugly ass vegetation along the freeways in LA county in a middle of a "drought"
it made me realize, there is no drought!!
its all to raise prices
if that amount of snow falls on the mountains then the same amount of rain falls on the land...you gotta hold the water back in the land
Up here in Northern California we got extra water. You can take some. We’re the better part of the state anyways.
Fun Fact: San Francisco had way more population than Los Angeles from the 1800’s up until 1910. It wasn’t until that aqua duct that connected to LA that the population grew rapidly.
Wait a min @ViceNews According to @KTLA article 06/02/2019 Sierra Nevada Snowpack measures 202% of average for this time of year. So if this story was reported in the month of June, why wasn't the amount of snow included in this report? Doesn't this affect the ranchers? This issue between them and LA should not be a huge problem this year due to the fact of amount of snow/water California has totalled up this year from the snow! And is anyone paying attention to the mountain tops in the background? Yes you seen snow, yes it is June/July. Yes snow is still there. I can see it all the way from Sacramento when I drive over an overpass ramp I-80.
Elleon DeMuskeres ..it's the same as SoCal. Depending on location though. Living near coast cooler with fog but warm 50-80 degrees, central is average but can get hot asf 100-108 or cold nothing below 32 degrees average 75-95 degrees here in Sacramento. Sierra is another story thats more like Oregon and Washington. Right now I cant sleep and outside on my patio its 65 probably out here tonight today supposed to be 88 usually this time is 100-105. Im not complaining because my AC is taking a break. As for the water here...they're warning everyone to be extra careful due to the high snow amt. This year, run off is extremely cold in the river and lakes. It can be 95-100 and water temperature at the reservoir temperatures is 40-50+. All I know all this water created a high amount of insects and pollen. Im traveling to the Sierra next week so ill be able to clarify the snow up there and why these ranchers are still having water wars...honestly it doesn't make sense. I know they now regret selling property to la..I would it seems like nothing but a headache.
If the big cities and the state had been doing long term Rain collection instead of letting it run right into the ocean I wonder if we would have this issue
You know what's funny? Humans use less than 10% of the fresh water in California for our daily needs. Over 20% automatically goes to farmers and state law says 51% of all water in the rivers must flow into the ocean. There's no water shortage, there's mismanagement
you mean the farmers that drive their economy and feed the country? right, we shouldnt let them have water that usually would be theirs anyways,
WATER IS GOING TO BE THE DEATH OF LOS ANGELES
Great reporting Vice. These are the type of stories I’m subscribed for.
Keep the water up north we need to save the delta✌
Rs Thirtyfive yes we do!
Why are they not talking about Stewart resnick? He is the owner of paramount farms and he uses more water everyday than all Californians combined. He also in a closed room deal with the governor and a few other California officials became the owner of the kern county water bank built for southern Californians to store water in case of a drought. But now it all belongs to Stewart resneck and he has used it to increase his wealth incredibly. He is the richest business man in Los Angeles. He has even sold that water to California so it could save some wetlands that have wildlife there that can only be found in that area. Californians paid him $30,000,000 for water that Californians paid for back in the 80’s. This is the man southern Californians need to be mad at. He is also the reason we have limits on water usage while he has none.
Seems as though it comes down to one thing: Who owns the water?
Robert Feight poop dealer 😳😳
The democrats
They said LA bought it
THE WATER IS IN REPUBLICAN TERRITORY AND GOES TO THE FUCKERS IN LA. We will take it back.
@@trevorpaul9623 Who owns the land? I thought you where property rights advocate? Oh that's right. Capitalism does not work for you all? Better pay up, time to collect.
cut off LA from our water, how bad could it b if that hell hole stoped existing, they aren’t the ones growing all the food anyway
That's what happens when a place is over populated by 10 million people .
No very progressive of you Los Angeles.
If America no longer has the industry to produce industrial goods and then no longer has the water, land or desire to produce agricultural goods, then America loses out. Our economy shrinks, and our GDP shrinks as other countries begin to prosper. Corporations and companies will flee the USA. But sure, cow men bad! More water for LA!
People forget that we are desert in Southern California. It’s the same Mediterranean weather as in Egypt and Israel. Water is a precious resource.
L.A tried to do this to kern county but it didn't work
The land is owned by the LADWP for 100 years...bought and paid for. The ranchers are tenants...nothing more than that. If the terms of the lease change, they either adapt or get out.
"to combat climate change"
>takes a helicopter ride to look over the aqueduct
Did you expect them to walk?
To convert saltwater into freshwater it cost around a billion dollars. We have plenty of saltwater and in the la area should have timers on how much water they use per month. they do that rest of the world especially in England. When rain does happen in England people ration it into big containers. They use that water feed The yards.
craigjkb Thank you, as a central Californian. Please source your own water from now on. People are growing violent toward the LA basin. We just might stop all water flow to you guys.
But isn't cattle farming water intensive? A "vegan wave" is already happening - Impossible, Beyond, and other companies starting "lab grown" meat from cells etc., so maybe getting out of cattle ranching is an idea? it's obviously pretty complex, but isn't that a place to start?
You can fix this, just ban lawns
*I'M THIRSTY SOMEBODY GIVE ME A DRINK NOWWWWWWW..WHERE IS THE COTDAYMN WATER* 😠😠😠
Aren't there sources of water closer to Los Angeles?
Well, L.A. better learn about desalination of the ocean water, because the first thing those ranchers are going to do is blow up the aqueduct entrance.
@@abrahamcampos Or you move out of LA, because we all know YOU ain't jailing shit
I feel sorry for them but they lease the land from LA they don't own the land. You don't have the same rights when you rent.
Also I'm betting there's been years of abuse on both sides and if they are going to continue people in LA need to give up things like green lawns and the Ranchers are going to have invest in better irrigation or chg crops to ones that use less water. Conservation can work put the people of LA and even the farmers are going to have to drastically change their water usage . It's only going to get worse.
logan holmberg well said
Why dont they set up a container so when it rains they can collect it all and reuse that for the farmers
Yeoman's Keyline Design! Look it up. It makes the AU outback able to be farmed. It can add 10,000gal of water per acre and keep grass greener longer into winter
LA only needs the water to make the hills lush green gardens rich neighborhoods look the same, lush and green, never seen a patch of yellow in any rich neighborhoods in LA, and California gets its water from Colorados Arkansas valley river
Recently I have seen many countries suffering from drought. People can spend billion for oil pipeline which runs for hundres of miles but they won't pay a single penny to build water pipeline coz it's not profitable. Those poor farmers can't pay off the money for the line. In India, beluchistan those drought affected fields could flourished if there were well planned water pipeline through out the country. At least they could have saved their harvest. But nobody would do it coz that project won't be profitable .
Good on Mono County for suing the LADWP. Owens Valley was killed by this scar on my desert. I live in the Kern part of the shadow of the aqueduct.
Desalination is the best option for you guys. The dwellers hate the aqueduct.
The "dwellers" only dwell because LADWP say they can.
Whats that saying? bite hands for food?
Everyone that uses the Colorado river as a main water source is fighting California for it. The Hoover dam that is on the border between Nevada and Arizona collects and treats tons of water that mainly goes to California for agricultural use. Nevada and Arizona need to tell California to stop growing crops in the desert. Nevada has been trying to pass bills to build a pipeline from the northern part of our state to supply the south with water, even though we would have enough if we stoped sharing with California.
Why not just build inland desalinization plants with aqueducts flowing inland from the ocean. The Pacific Ocean should meet Los Angeles water needs.
It takes a lot of power to run a desalinization plant; build solar power farms. The construction of the solar fields, aqueducts, and desalinization plants would create jobs. The people of the upper California counties would be able to keep their water for farming. More produce would grow; farmers would make more money, and quite possibly the grocery prices would go down. This would be win win for everybody.
That is awful those poor cows and others animals not including people.
These types of documentaries are addicting but depressing.
I’d like to think the human population will prosper for millions of years but we all know it’s IMPOSSIBLE at the rate we consume natural resources (& live a life that threatens it) due to over population.
😢
Blame trump for saying global warming was a joke and never took it seriously. This is a very small repercussion, things will get worse over time
Oh wow this one is smart everybody 🤣 Globe warming doesn't exist . If it did we all would already be dead you moron
Tough HStacks yeah that’s not how global warming works. Global warming is a gradual process with serious repercussions that built up over time. Right now it means an increase in the frequency of severe hurricanes but in the decades to come it could include our most important cities being submerged, unsurvivable drought and famine, and much much more. The conclusions of the scientific community is irrefutable, climate change exists, thinking otherwise is idiotic.
@discorperted I am sure poor immigrants arent the cause of climate change when you have billionaires flying their own private jets every hour lol.
@@shabbirnaqvi1344 wrong. Global warming is a sham...a scam invented to tax and regulate the population. From global warming, to now calling it "Climate Change." The planet will always change climates as it always has been throughout its existence.
Sure, man has contributed to the destruction of the planet's natural resources, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking the natural fluctutations in earth's climate are the fault of humans, demanding more of our tax dollars to "fix."
This video has nothing to do with climate change 🤦🏻♂️
Nat Geo. picked up on this 2 or 3 years ago with a great docu. entitled "Water Wars : A California Heist." It was mind boggling and sad at the same time to see people in modern times using 1800's style clothes washing, etc, etc... It is all just another sign of the times, and just the beginning of the madness. The pedo's at Netflix are pushing this violence in a movie called "Worthy" and the water shortage in the script is used to create the title, only the "worthy" can access the dwindling water supplies.
Yea, let’s build a huge city in a desert. Sounds smart.
They’re not wrong cattle ranchers are the biggest problem of air pollution and water waste
no more meat :(
No more meat or milk.
discorperted say what you want but there’s a documentary on this problem I forgot what it’s called but the reason this isn’t addressed is because cattle ranchers have the money to silence people or simply have them killed
snow snow there’s alternatives like raising rabbits in your backyard or chickens
discorperted what are you a cattle rancher. That’s a different issue but cattle farming is a bigger issue which isn’t talked about and needs to be addressed
Or. Heres a crazy idea... how about we stop having grass lawns :o saves like 80% of a households water and doesnt really do anything
I drove through Mono county while going to Mammoth Lakes, and it is beautiful; my mom fell in love with Bishop. I really wish them the best of luck, and I hope everything works out.
@Donald Kasper Okay, I will. Thanks for the advice.
Ranchers should buy land with water right like we have to in north California. Why did they sell it to them back then and now complain?
The cattle industry is what’s wrong with the world. It’s time for a change.
The farmers need to blow up the source of water to LA
This is why farmers and ranchers should never sell anything to a non farmer or rancher. They did it to themselves. Tell the residents of LA to stop watering their grass
I doubt they had much choice... I’m sure there was some serious threats/bullying/extortion happening...
I don’t think you realize the price of water in L.A. either... shit ain’t cheap 50gallons per person a month is 67$... and it is a block rate system meaning if you go over your allotment you got hell to pay. Most people do not water their grass.
Desalinated water is the cure for this issue... but somehow it still isn’t cost effective yet.
California or feds needs to force L.A. to invest into desalination infrastructure. It should have been started 50 years ago....
@@probablynotabigtoe9407
I'd bet $1000 right now that 99% of you say is 100% bullshit. You obviously don't know anything about the situation. Desalination is insanely expensive. Not just building it but maintaining. The key is to conserve water. The politicians in California (and the morons who voted them into power) are real good at making sure their quality of life will never change. They do this at the expense of anyone they don't feel live up to their "standards". I come from a family that has farmed and ranched in Colorado for well over a century. They have bought up all of the water rights they can from those who sold out over the last 20 years. They could easily sell them for millions of dollars. They won't do it. They also won't sell land that is agricultural to anyone without a contract stating that the land cannot be used or sold for anything other than agriculture for a minimum of 100 years. These farmers and ranchers sold themselves and future generations out for a lump sum payment. Now they are paying the price. Plain and simple: it STUPIDITY. Seems to be alot of that going around in California.
We dont water our grass. Our grass is yellow and dead.
Moshiac Sun
At least you don’t deny electing morons to represent you.
Jack Tatum is such a nice man, reminds me of my dad. Makes me want to say, he needs to come to Texas where people will treat him right. We like ranchers and farmers here. My heart aches for those people. They are not being treated fairly. I just pray to God that he will open the spouts of heaven and allow rain to fall heavily over their lands, enough for them to store up.
Many of the rachers around here built they’re own wells. Expensive... but they can afford it and also the state of California can also afford other alternatives as well
He sounds like a little kid on the playground being reprimanded: "We shouldn't get in trouble because they did it too." Or maybe all the guilty parties should be reprimanded.
This fight is for rich people in LA. The biggest percentage of water used in many desert cities is not for human consumption, or cleaning. Most of it is for irrigating, golf courses, parks and people's lawns.
We need to stop treating water like it's an unlimited resource. There will be serious global shortages in our lifetime. You better hope you're either rich or close to a natural fresh water source in the future because the wars over fresh water are coming.
Desalination is cheaper than war.
Now do San Francisco and Silicon Valley stealing water from the rest of California
LA is the one stealing water from Northern California. We receive more rain than they do
Wait a min @ViceNews According to @KTLA article 06/02/2019 Sierra Nevada Snowpack measures 202% of average for this time of year. So if this story was reported in the month of June, why wasn't the amount of snow included in this report? Doesn't this affect the ranchers? This issue between them and LA should not be a huge problem this year due to the fact of amount of snow/water California has totalled up this year from the snow! And is anyone paying attention to the mountain tops in the background? Yes you seen snow, yes it is June/July. Yes snow is still there. I can see it all the way from Sacramento when I drive over an overpass ramp I-80.
Nuclear energy and desalination would fix this whole problem overnight
You onto something
So if the apocalypse happens, LA is the worst place to be
If Los Angeles bought this land for the water over a hundred years ago the ranchers had to know this day was coming. That means none of these ranchers were ever owners. It's their parents they need to blame for selling the land and losing their rights to it.
Just call it the Owens Valley in the title. Stop the clickbait
The desert will reclaim what belongs to it
maybe not so smart to build a massive city in a dessert ... id rather have those ranchers get it then give it to a bunch of hipsters in beverly hills to water their lawns .
Not a fan of television, movies, or most music, then, huh?
True LA needs to ban things like lawns if they want to prove they are trying to conserve water.
@@robertfeight1205 nope ... not a fan of tv or movies .. music i love .. but then again it has nothing to do with LA.. sure LA has music .. but so does everywhere else... and you can make movies and tv anywhere now.
No one talks about the large companies that Nestle that are bottling water from California and selling it across out of state. How can that not be a large source of Californian water being wasted?
Nestle is fucking us over up in bc too
William Shatner's plan for a water pipeline is exactly what could help. Excess waters diverted from floods would be greatly beneficial.
Shekhar Moona America can’t even pave a road what makes u think they’re gonna want to build a pipeline system
LA sits next to the world's largest body of water, we have the technology to desalinate water. How thirsty are you ??
Take it out of the ocean desalt it hey that's a idea!!!🤔
Process is more expenditure than just collecting melting water. No one wants to pay for that.
@@IngoPagels but we are paying for Israel desalinization facilities... How cannot we afford it?
@@Edmund-7 Because Republicans what dummy? There are no Republicans in power in California.
Wes lmao thats what i just comment and jus scroll down down i saw you wrote it too
See if you can do a funding program to make more drinking water out of ocean water other countries are doing it why not us
BULL SHIT!! we had so much rain in the past 2-3 years and they’re ALWAYS letting it go into the ocean through the San Gabriel river! If water was truly scarce they would hold it not let it go
I thought we had a good snow pack last winter? Isn't there enough water for everybody?
A. Ranchers are not farmers.
LA was there before the settlers in Owens Valley.
No it wasn't.
5:51 "there's no silver bullet for this problem." Immediate cut to water-guzzling cattle.