To be honest, you guys might be sleeping a bit on Axel Sandin Pellikka. He was injured during the season. A teenager playing in a mens league. He had a phenomenal playoffs and U-20 as well. By this time, next year I believe most people will finally see that Axel Sandin Pellikka is Detroit's #1 prospect.
28:38 so was Cossa really the "safe pick" over Wallstedt? Feels like pretty obvious was the other way around when the report overall was that Wallstedt was the more "NHL ready" goalie while Cossa was spoken of more of a "project" but hopefully with a higher ceiling... Right?
Correct! Good call. Wallstedt was talked more about as the NHL ready goalie. That was a time where Steve swung at a guy with pure athleticism and size and hoped they could hone him in.
@@Lamar-t5s I would think the abundance of high end draft picks at Defense would be used. three pairs and a reserve or two is needed and were on our way there already. too many d men in the same window. the guy, big wish, would be Draisaital from Edmonton. there about to fail again and need to figure it out for McDavid. could be time to explore that. former redwings GM there too.
My Detroit's top 12 prospects list: 1. Axel Sandin Pellikka 2. Simon Edvidsson 3. Nate Danielson 4. Marco Kasper 5. Carter Mazur 6. Sebastian Cossa 7. Dmitri Buchelnikov 8. Trey Augustine 9. Albert Johansson 10. Shia Buium 11. William Wallinder 12. Noah Dower Nilsson
Danielson absolutely deserves the #2 spot. He's just such an amazing all around player. I was super high on him after the preseason and he's done nothing but impress me this year. When he was drafted i was kind of under the impression he would be an auxilliary type guy who might play 3rd line. Now I am very confident he will be a valuable 2nd line center who drives the play.
How long will Albert Johansson be the forgotten man? Like, what's it going to take for people to notice Johansson? Axel Sandin Pellika could be a Q. Hughes or Letang type, dynamic offensive dman. Also, where is Berggren? Feels like we have another Gustav Nyquist type player, and were just going to let him go for no reason.
@@TheMightymolar Not very mystifying. Berggren has great potential but the NHL is a different animal. Its not his offense, but his pretty blatantly bad turnover rate when hes been up that kept him out of the lineup. But his ELC is up so the wings are going to have to gamble if they can fix that part of his game OR create enough offense that will offset that part of his game and so far his offense hasnt shown up at the same clip in the NHL.
I absolutely think the Red wings have done the right thing by stocking up on safe prospects. Considering how Steve turned a bottom-6 player like Kubalik, Sebrang-who? and 1st round pick into Debrincat, imagine what he could get for a 1st, Berggren and a prospect like Buium or Wallinder. That's one way to get the high-end offensive skill we need and it can be done pretty much without jeopardizing the future
Edvinsson will almost certainly be a full time NHLer and most likely top 4. Berggren will either replace Sprong or be traded. Johansson probably will replace Maatta if he's traded. Danielson and Kasper will be on deck soon followed by Sandin-Pellikka and Cossa... Unfortunately it gets harder to find the diamonds with 32 teams scouting players around the world.
So who are the scoring wingers in this prospect pool? At least those slated to start their NHL at third line duties. Mazur maybe Lombardi............anyone else? I do not count Berggren for he graduated then relegated for mysteries unknown. The rest of the wingers in the Red Wings system are projects. SY blew the opportunity to add at least 2 wingers in the second round of the 2023 draft instead selecting defenders Gibson and Cleveland. Gibson okay, Cleveland was a total stretch.
I think for him being a 6th rounder already have playing in the NHL means that he was the opposite of a "bust" from expectations where he got picked. I think in general bigger players take longer to put things together, ans Söderblom is a HUGE one to grow into that body. He had a rouge 2nd season in NA but i still think there is plenty of time for him to develop into a solid NHLer. Either way you cant call such a low draft pick a "bust" either way with the fact that he even made it to play games at all in the big leauge...
@@JackoTV the reason I ask is that his name is never mentioned when discussing the future of the Red Wings. We couldn't stop talking about him, but now he isn't a top ten prospect. When there is talk about bringing players up from GR, his name is always absent.
How is Wallstedt in the top 10 yet Cossa not even in the top 5 of Detroit prospects who dont boast 1 prospect period in the top 10? Cossa should be either 1 or 2 on our prospect list if you're going off of ceiling. I think he proved a lot of people wrong this year, his ceiling with his traits and athletic profile is top 3 Goalie in the NHL for a decade. Wallstedt was a head of Cossa because he played professional well before Cossa but Cossa has now closed that gap, imo
Getting tired of the retreads. Prospects don't mean a whole lot if they are not brought up. Is Berggren going to be called up or traded? Is Edvinson going to be left on the team, or sent back down? Are the Wings going to sign another 11 players blocking any chance for the young guys? Talk is cheap, can they play or not?
@@thewaterwarrior9817 What you mean by that? He’s objectively right, the only thing that matters is how these guys perform in the NHL. Good to be optimistic about the future but random guys thinking we have good prospects does nothing.
Prospect talks are exactly why anyone should pay attention to these types of channels. I don't give a shit about their game day videos where they try to gaslight me into thinking Kane isn't a defensive liability. This is the lane they should generally stay in.
No way is the wings top 5 prospects better than the sabres top 5. Savoie,kulich,rosen,ostlund,levi would all be rated better than the best guy in the wings system.
I swear I just love how these people who have never even laced up skates are second guessing SY and his plans. And they just want these kids thrown in to the NHL and expect them to be SS!! Let them get their playing time in the minors instead of wanting them with the big clubs. You don’t like what SY is doing then don’t watch the RW!!! You will all be saying how you knew that SY was right when all you did was question him!!! So shut the F up and let SY do his job!!!
To be honest, you guys might be sleeping a bit on Axel Sandin Pellikka. He was injured during the season. A teenager playing in a mens league. He had a phenomenal playoffs and U-20 as well. By this time, next year I believe most people will finally see that Axel Sandin Pellikka is Detroit's #1 prospect.
28:38 so was Cossa really the "safe pick" over Wallstedt? Feels like pretty obvious was the other way around when the report overall was that Wallstedt was the more "NHL ready" goalie while Cossa was spoken of more of a "project" but hopefully with a higher ceiling... Right?
Correct! Good call. Wallstedt was talked more about as the NHL ready goalie. That was a time where Steve swung at a guy with pure athleticism and size and hoped they could hone him in.
Cossa actually had better stats in the AHL than Wallstedt.
Pellikka is my sleeper in this group. dynamic player that we lack on the blue line. right handed shot with dangle to his game.
also, stevie has way too many D men. there's the trade pool to bring in the #1 centerman this team needs?
@@patrousseau1828we have a 1c already?? since when is larkin not a 1c lmao
@@Lamar-t5s if he is the 1c than were in trouble. imo imagine him as the natural #2C. he can still be capt also. you gotta think bigger.
@@patrousseau1828 do we really have assets to trade for a 1c and who do you think they should go for
@@Lamar-t5s I would think the abundance of high end draft picks at Defense would be used. three pairs and a reserve or two is needed and were on our way there already. too many d men in the same window. the guy, big wish, would be Draisaital from Edmonton. there about to fail again and need to figure it out for McDavid. could be time to explore that. former redwings GM there too.
My Detroit's top 12 prospects list:
1. Axel Sandin Pellikka
2. Simon Edvidsson
3. Nate Danielson
4. Marco Kasper
5. Carter Mazur
6. Sebastian Cossa
7. Dmitri Buchelnikov
8. Trey Augustine
9. Albert Johansson
10. Shia Buium
11. William Wallinder
12. Noah Dower Nilsson
ASP over Edvinsson is wild imo
Cossa over Kasper imo
kasper > danielson, right now
Danielson absolutely deserves the #2 spot. He's just such an amazing all around player. I was super high on him after the preseason and he's done nothing but impress me this year. When he was drafted i was kind of under the impression he would be an auxilliary type guy who might play 3rd line. Now I am very confident he will be a valuable 2nd line center who drives the play.
Preseason opponents had to be impressed with Danielson. Even if he turns into a poor mans Ryan Nugent-Hopkins I will be very pleased.
How long will Albert Johansson be the forgotten man? Like, what's it going to take for people to notice Johansson?
Axel Sandin Pellika could be a Q. Hughes or Letang type, dynamic offensive dman.
Also, where is Berggren? Feels like we have another Gustav Nyquist type player, and were just going to let him go for no reason.
The Berggren thing mystified me. Is like to see him back up.
@@TheMightymolar Not very mystifying. Berggren has great potential but the NHL is a different animal. Its not his offense, but his pretty blatantly bad turnover rate when hes been up that kept him out of the lineup. But his ELC is up so the wings are going to have to gamble if they can fix that part of his game OR create enough offense that will offset that part of his game and so far his offense hasnt shown up at the same clip in the NHL.
Doesn’t mean anything unless these guys can come in and play at a high level in the NHL. Until then it’s just a nice thing to look at on paper.
I absolutely think the Red wings have done the right thing by stocking up on safe prospects. Considering how Steve turned a bottom-6 player like Kubalik, Sebrang-who? and 1st round pick into Debrincat, imagine what he could get for a 1st, Berggren and a prospect like Buium or Wallinder. That's one way to get the high-end offensive skill we need and it can be done pretty much without jeopardizing the future
the cat basically forced his way here tho, the sens had very little leverage.
Love the lid Brian!!
What about Soderblom?
Exactly what I was thinking.
Of course we have the best prospects lol we never bring anybody up. I'm looking for a Stamkos signing
Wheres Elmer!
Hopefully one of these prospects can be a pure goal scorer
I'm excited about some of these players, but find it surprising that it's ranked #1. Let's hope a bunch of them shake out.
Yall really underestimate ASP and that’s concerning, like many of the takes on here.
Edvinsson will almost certainly be a full time NHLer and most likely top 4. Berggren will either replace Sprong or be traded. Johansson probably will replace Maatta if he's traded. Danielson and Kasper will be on deck soon followed by Sandin-Pellikka and Cossa... Unfortunately it gets harder to find the diamonds with 32 teams scouting players around the world.
Albert is 23, most prospect lists dont include you when you turn 23.
What about cross hanas
So who are the scoring wingers in this prospect pool? At least those slated to start their NHL at third line duties.
Mazur maybe Lombardi............anyone else? I do not count Berggren for he graduated then relegated for mysteries unknown.
The rest of the wingers in the Red Wings system are projects. SY blew the opportunity to add at least 2 wingers in the second round of the 2023 draft instead selecting defenders Gibson and Cleveland. Gibson okay, Cleveland was a total stretch.
So, is Soderblom a bust?
I think for him being a 6th rounder already have playing in the NHL means that he was the opposite of a "bust" from expectations where he got picked. I think in general bigger players take longer to put things together, ans Söderblom is a HUGE one to grow into that body. He had a rouge 2nd season in NA but i still think there is plenty of time for him to develop into a solid NHLer. Either way you cant call such a low draft pick a "bust" either way with the fact that he even made it to play games at all in the big leauge...
I dont think hes a bust its not like he was 1st overall pick
@@JackoTV I think he means where is he on these lists, not necessarily as a real bust.
@@JackoTV the reason I ask is that his name is never mentioned when discussing the future of the Red Wings. We couldn't stop talking about him, but now he isn't a top ten prospect. When there is talk about bringing players up from GR, his name is always absent.
How is Wallstedt in the top 10 yet Cossa not even in the top 5 of Detroit prospects who dont boast 1 prospect period in the top 10?
Cossa should be either 1 or 2 on our prospect list if you're going off of ceiling. I think he proved a lot of people wrong this year, his ceiling with his traits and athletic profile is top 3 Goalie in the NHL for a decade.
Wallstedt was a head of Cossa because he played professional well before Cossa but Cossa has now closed that gap, imo
Getting tired of the retreads. Prospects don't mean a whole lot if they are not brought up. Is Berggren going to be called up or traded? Is Edvinson going to be left on the team, or sent back down? Are the Wings going to sign another 11 players blocking any chance for the young guys? Talk is cheap, can they play or not?
You must not be very tapped in
@@thewaterwarrior9817 What you mean by that? He’s objectively right, the only thing that matters is how these guys perform in the NHL. Good to be optimistic about the future but random guys thinking we have good prospects does nothing.
Bergren is too much of a liability on defense to call up. He's got the scoring chops, no doubt about it.
@@wyattbarnes9641 that’s not his point at all dumbo
Prospect talks are exactly why anyone should pay attention to these types of channels. I don't give a shit about their game day videos where they try to gaslight me into thinking Kane isn't a defensive liability. This is the lane they should generally stay in.
Augustine will be a NHL starter before Cossa, id really like to see them move cossa while the hype is somewhat high.
Prospect rankings are maximum Copium.
No way is the wings top 5 prospects better than the sabres top 5. Savoie,kulich,rosen,ostlund,levi would all be rated better than the best guy in the wings system.
well it's looking at the top 10 so if you include the next 5 sabres prospects and compare them to the 10 here they aren't as good as a whole
sabers. Hahaha
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@@iprey4surf “sabers” how about Sabres,
I swear I just love how these people who have never even laced up skates are second guessing SY and his plans. And they just want these kids thrown in to the NHL and expect them to be SS!! Let them get their playing time in the minors instead of wanting them with the big clubs. You don’t like what SY is doing then don’t watch the RW!!! You will all be saying how you knew that SY was right when all you did was question him!!! So shut the F up and let SY do his job!!!
Very good players. Be nice to have those one or two super stars.