Honestly the main thing that kills this is the lack of Thunderbolt, these small form factor PCs can really benefit from the expandability Thunderbolt can give
Take away the dedicated graphics and give us enough Thunderbolt 3 controllers for 8 PCIe lanes and that would be amazing. (Then make a PCIe dock that can use multiple TB3 cables to take advantage.)
For those saying it’s too expensive : Look I’m not saying the price is high but Mini itx always has a price premium, it’s a prebuilt pc which are usually overpriced and then with everything going on some of part prices are high now. This is par for the course for what you get, unfortunately
@@NexusFantismo a 1660 Super with i5-10400F trident 3 is $950 with a keyboard and mouse on Amazon rn. Zotac's Xbox have been low in stock but you can order from their site. Their i5-9300h with 1660 to is 1060, and their 2060 is $1200. The trident 3 is upgradable too. This thing is severely overpriced for even SFF PCs. You buy it for it's size and uniqueness. That's it. Even the trident 3 is a great price of you were going to build one yourself.
@@dashankannan Still doesn't make sense when you can buy an Asrock Deskmini A300 or X300 for 150$-200$ which can fit up to a Ryzen 3400G or up to a Ryzen 4700G. And it's not much bigger.
@@elsasslotharingen7507 That doesn't fit a dedicated GPU. A 1050Ti is pretty old but it still outperforms an APU at this moment. It is a shame they didn't use a 1650 or 1660 for that kind of money though (if the cooling solution can manage).
@@CheapBastard1988 I think a mini PC based on a Ryzen APU with built-in GDDR6 would at least match the gaming performance of this thing, at a much, much lower price.
You mightest we’ll get the next gen Xbox for 300 and put in dev mode and you’ll have ps1 ps2 and GameCube and more all for free that 900 dollar shit can eat my ass with that shit
this review was super interesting, I bought it 5 minutes after the video . why , because I do have a lot of the pieces and the barebone is perfect for me and yeeeeesss size matters for some and the 1050 makes it on top of any other ''small form'' devices. In my case, I want to add it to my jamma cabinet and for emulation this willl be perfect . Now i just need to find a way to start the device and control directly to the jamma interface from the cabinet, that will be fun.
@@kevinw6814 But mine is 3 years old and you got more ram then mine, I have 2gb of ram and a AMD Raedon A4 9125 (sounds good but it isn't I cant run Racing Games at a steady 20fps) so in your words you have a gaming PC compared to mine.
@@shin3417 His problem is he tried to make his PC last for 13 years, it doesn't work like that. Your problem however, is that you bought a PC that was vastly incapable of doing what you intended for it to do. No your CPU doesn't sound good, it sounds like it was super cheap even when it came out (because it was), and you didn't have that PC for 3 years, because that CPU hit the market in late 2018, so at the very most, you've had it for 2 years. Your PC has basic memory, basic computing power, and very basic image rendering hardware, it's not meant for games. Now, reading back my comment, it's clear that I'm an angry old man, so I want to let it be known that you have a perfectly fine PC before saying anything else, it's great at doing what it was designed to do. It's a terrible shame to have you trying to do something on it, that it's just not capable of ever doing well.
1050ti is showing its age/position in the product stack, but it does alright. The AMD entry level Polaris cards are usually better only because they are cheaper per frame, but the 580 8GB pulls more power too so that matters in such a small form factor - 570 8GB would be great for a solution like this tho. Crysis Remastered or other VRAM hungry games (I think that's Crysis's issue other than optimization issues and made with next Gen GPUs in mind for higher than 30fps at High) would highly benefit from more than 4GB. The 1060 6GB even, tho that's quite a bit more even used. Very cool little release, regardless! Just some stuff I was thinking during the video lol. Great job tho!
Carlos Gonzalez it’s not too bad at least it’s not GT 1030 ddr4 edition it’s plenty good enough for any emulation, the form factor is what your paying for but even still i think it’s a decent price for even that. i got the i5 9500F version with out Ram and storage for 519$ and il add 16gb of ddr4 and 1 terabyte of storage for 644$ when all is finished, this will be a livingroom emulation light gaming pc for me
@@InfectedChris Which GPU would be good for a 7+ year old "Intel i7-4770" + "Intel DH87RL Motherboard" (RAM allowed is DDR3-1600), which won't be out-off-date and would be usable in future if i plan to upgrade CPU & Motherboard.
@@jeremy__hopkins Oh yeah, forgot to mention that i am using a 14+ years old "Samsung SyncMaster 740NW" which only has a VGA connection (no HDMI), and max resolution of 720p. So, i am using a VGA to DVI-I adapter to use the Monitor with my Motherboard. Didn't really know much about PC parts around 7+ years ago, so just went with what the Seller gave me (i told him i was using a Old Monitor, and he gave me the DVI-I adapter, if i had understood more, would have instead gone for the HDMI adapter).
Perhaps do a teardown of the review unit if allowed? I believe the 1050 in there uses the MXM style format, so it could be possible to upgrade to a 2060
power draw from a 1050ti and a rtx 2060 is going to be way too different. 1050Ti MXM is 75W, RTX 2060 is 115W. THat power brick is only rated for 150W, and 65 of that is for the CPU and another 15 to 25 for storage and RAM. Also, good luck finding an MXM RTX 2060 card. The only place i know too get MXM cards is Eurocom. They dont have rtx and their 1070 is 150W at $800. THeir 1060 is 75W for $650.
@@AlexSeibz maybe, but like other prebuilts, the bios might be locked, or the mobo might not be able to handle the higher power. There would be a need for better thermals as well. At that point, just get a zotac Zbox
I wish this pc was cheaper, it has a dedicated gpu even if its a few generations behind and a small form factor. But for that price, you might as well go for a laptop that already comes with a screen and a keyboard some laptops even have dedicated gpus.
Honestly, this is the kind of thing I wish was more available before I built my bartop arcade machine. Putting one of these machines in there would have been much easier than the mess of a miniITX build I've got snaked around the insides. And considering the performance and price of the i5 variants, it's not even badly priced. I would have loved this a year ago.
@@marianoen3158 I'm using a USB encoder. The bartop initially started as a cheap Raspberry Pi build so I started cheap, but I kept wanting more out of it. I initially tried one of those mini Lenovo PCs ETAPrime has featured on the channel, but the Intel graphics was unreliable so I eventually just pieced out a full miniITX Ryzen 5 build. The cheap Xin-Mo 2 player USB encoder I'm using hasn't had any performance issues for me so I never bothered to upgrade it to anything else. The one downside I will say for it is not having an XInput mode has sometimes been a pain. DInput works for a lot of things, but I ended up having to use a program to fake XInput for games like Killer Instinct (2013). Otherwise no complaints.
I'm have the same thing going on in my bartop with a Core i5 mini itx and something like this would make for a clean installation without sacrificing performance.
dude i really love your channel. like your videos quality and info and just the amount of diffrent review are just amazing and veryinformative. also literally you make me want to uy most of the products you review. keep it up man.
I tried to put together this spec in PCPartPicker, and honestly for new components this is not badly priced. Obviously you can get a better price/performance ratio with used parts, older parts, or AMD CPU, but for the components in this machine it is competitive with a home-built.
This does have an NVME/pcie 2280 m.2 drive. The smaller 2242 m.2 slot is SATA. It even says it in the video. Also, SATA drive speeds top out around 500 MB/s and this is hitting 1500.
DDR4@2666mhz if you populate both slot's btw to any curious, not a mistake for ETA since he is using just 1 slot...single channel will down speed your ram. This thing looks bad ass even for 550$ depending, prob best to buy ram and SSD separate to save some cash, the i5 9400F is a 6core CPU btw for 50 or so bucks more, might as well. GREAT VIDEO!!
The red power button kinda reminds me of a Supermicro system. I really like it. It seems like a proper mini PC, too. With discrete graphics even. My only gripe is the lack of USB-C, and honestly, I think every mini should have Thunderbolt. You really need external PCI-e lanes, for add-ons. That's the one thing this system lacks, is proper expandability. So, I'm gonna pass on it. But, it's nice to see that this mini platform is developing into something closer to an actual computer, instead of an over-glorified smart phone, or laptop. Maybe one day they'll become more common, and the prices will reflect the limited performance.
Well not as many people buy mini pc's especially high end ones so they probably couldn't get a good deal with a supplier on small boards with thunderbolt.
I've been hearing a lot of good things about upcoming Navi Based APUs coming up. 8 core 16 threaded APUs. Next build i want to do is a mini itx build for a living room emulator gaming box.
Woo this is interesting. I built up an ODYSSEY - X86J4105 and last night used it for a solid couple of hours. Its still honestly a little too weak for even light gaming. Realistically you will have more than just a game open like perhaps Discord, some web browser tabs etc. Though the ram was fine, the CPU was pegged to 100%. This was with Win10 on an NVME and extreme power profile enabled. The EliteMini would be a way better experience and certainly gives a lot more preformance, but I guess you have to decide whether the 3x price increase is worth it to you. Budget gaming this is not, but its hard to beat this form factor. Either way I'm enjoying seeing the down sizing options coming out. Its also a major point to realise this is using a proper desktop CPU and not some crappy mobile chip.
@@heywoodjablowme1624 Actually I have a laptop, too. When I bought this thing, I was thinking of moving my gaming over to it. I've since realized that my laptop has a better GPU, but the laptop's CPU might be worse. I'd like to game mainly in my living room, where this thing is going, rather than my bedroom.
I bought one. I'm a console guy. and more of a PC noob. But I'm loving this can run retro gaming up PS3 (RPCS3). Also loving Xbox game pass. downloading the games. And games I buy like Read Redemtion 2 look great. I get that yes, Micrpspft flight simulaltor I need to run lower settings but I'm fine with that. I bought this one: i5-9500F / 16GB RAM+512GB SSD / US
Man when this first came out I was just blown away with the size & the power packed in it ,but the over heating issue is what are on me , it had a bad cooling system ,god knows if they resolved it or not
I'm looking at my Zotac mini GTX 1050 Ti card, figuring out how a 1050 Ti could've been crammed into such a small space. It then dawned on me that it could've been using the same GPU but on an MXM board rather than a PCI-E board, seeing that the DVI dual-link connector is missing and there's instead only HDMI and DisplayPort, which theoretically means it can only run 2 displays simultaneously instead of 3.
love the idea of this honestly have been advocating for this kinda thing for awhile. though 5 years into owning my current computer i have to say at least at this point the cpu has held up better than the gpu at least in terms expected performance. meh dont need a new emulation computer and this is a little pricy for what it is.
Very nice form factor 🙂, the noise would be a little annoying, and 1050ti is a bit low end in 2020, I was hoping Amds new Apus could be a big generation leap, but they cut the Vega cores when they needed to increase them, so there won't be a quieter cheaper asrock desk mini to match this performance just yet.
I think on AMD's side, they are more focused on the upcoming "Zen 3" CPU's and APU's more (highly likely named 5000 Series). The recent 4000 series APU's (which are still OEM & SI only) were probably released to clear the stock of older Semiconductors they have left for Zen 2.
Not a bad deal, honestly. But I am shocked it runs fine. Just bought and returned a desktop "gaming PC" with a Ryzen 5 and GTX1650 that would croak every time the CPU or GPU ramped up. You could run the GTA V benchmark but the moment the GPU went into action, the whole box puked all over the place. Ports died. Network port died. Sound died. In the old days, this would be a PSU or VRM issue but the bottom line is it was pulling too much power for what they built. So I'm shocked this little box can actually do what they say and run the hardware it does. Some bigger guys could take a lesson here. I am impressed.
I wonder how it would work with VR ? I'd like to see something like this for times when travelling, driving a VR headset playing PC VR games (like a big Steam collection).
Actually, a RUclipsr named "Taki Udon" had already reviewed this one and posted his video on 1st October. So, i am not really sure about the "no one is going to review it before it goes live" part.
Thanks for another awesome review. This is a great little machine considering the Desktop CPU in it. Can the Graphics Vard be upgraded to something new with similar power consumption, say a GTX 1650 or GTX 1650 SUPER or it uses Laptop version of the Graphics card (MXM)?
So basically this is competition to the hades canyon nuc. While this has decent performance they really should have included 10th gen Intel cpus as well as a gtx 1650 for the gpu. The TDP for both of those is identical so there no reason they couldn't have used them and with a 10th gen cpu you would get way more performance because they all have hyperthreading. It also would have made it worth their asking price.
3:04, those can't be SATA numbers. The fastest one tops at 6 gbps, which translates to 600 MB/s. That 1575 MB/s looks like a 1x PCIe 3.0 lane, so maybe is SATA Express (2x PCIe 3.0 lanes).
Can you please do a video on putting rgb buttons in the xtention rec room master cabinet. And also how to set it up with LEDblinky so it only lights up the usable buttons for each game.
two videos in one day. must be christmas
Wait till prime deals come 😁
this mischevious elf is more powerful than my space eater pc😂
Must be torture for me because I’m broke buying an iphone x
Honestly the main thing that kills this is the lack of Thunderbolt, these small form factor PCs can really benefit from the expandability Thunderbolt can give
Yeah true
Take away the dedicated graphics and give us enough Thunderbolt 3 controllers for 8 PCIe lanes and that would be amazing. (Then make a PCIe dock that can use multiple TB3 cables to take advantage.)
Didn't know that.... interest died right there...can't vr with this especially because no exchangeable gpu
GPU enclosures are way too expensive anyway.
For those saying it’s too expensive :
Look I’m not saying the price is high but Mini itx always has a price premium, it’s a prebuilt pc which are usually overpriced and then with everything going on some of part prices are high now. This is par for the course for what you get, unfortunately
for this size, yeah. but there are way better SFF prebuilts for that price point. Zotac Zbox E series and MSI's trident 3.
@@jamesgerber4658 Nah man, those are substantially more expensive and that’s if you can find them in stock
@@NexusFantismo a 1660 Super with i5-10400F trident 3 is $950 with a keyboard and mouse on Amazon rn. Zotac's Xbox have been low in stock but you can order from their site. Their i5-9300h with 1660 to is 1060, and their 2060 is $1200. The trident 3 is upgradable too.
This thing is severely overpriced for even SFF PCs. You buy it for it's size and uniqueness. That's it. Even the trident 3 is a great price of you were going to build one yourself.
Another informative and beautiful video. Thank you 👍
Fantastic like always!
Pretty decent specs for such a small form factor to be honest.. but NOT 900$ worth of performance imo.
I guess you're paying for the mobility and size
yes pricy af it must be all atleast 499$
@@dashankannan Still doesn't make sense when you can buy an Asrock Deskmini A300 or X300 for 150$-200$ which can fit up to a Ryzen 3400G or up to a Ryzen 4700G. And it's not much bigger.
@@elsasslotharingen7507 That doesn't fit a dedicated GPU. A 1050Ti is pretty old but it still outperforms an APU at this moment. It is a shame they didn't use a 1650 or 1660 for that kind of money though (if the cooling solution can manage).
@@CheapBastard1988 I think a mini PC based on a Ryzen APU with built-in GDDR6 would at least match the gaming performance of this thing, at a much, much lower price.
One of these days I'll get around to watching big buck bunny fully and not just the little snippets in your videos.
😂
Yeah, took me months of watching to get around to it.
I've always wondered why he always shows that particular video. Is it just because it's a free use video? I haven't watched it either
@@marty5300 yes it's a free use video made with Blender, also a free software
It's almost cool if it had a 1660 I'd buy it for sure maybe the next version.
It’s not worth 900
You mightest we’ll get the next gen Xbox for 300 and put in dev mode and you’ll have ps1 ps2 and GameCube and more all for free that 900 dollar shit can eat my ass with that shit
Add a thunderbolt 3 port, just one, and it's perfect.
That mini pc is looking amazing for it's size
this review was super interesting, I bought it 5 minutes after the video . why , because I do have a lot of the pieces and the barebone is perfect for me and yeeeeesss size matters for some and the 1050 makes it on top of any other ''small form'' devices. In my case, I want to add it to my jamma cabinet and for emulation this willl be perfect . Now i just need to find a way to start the device and control directly to the jamma interface from the cabinet, that will be fun.
When some black box runs games better than your big PC. Great Video though.
I feel this. My PC is over 13 years old, has an AMD Radeon 4000-series GPU, and a whopping 6 GB RAM. I'm long-overdue for an upgrade.
@@kevinw6814 But mine is 3 years old and you got more ram then mine, I have 2gb of ram and a AMD Raedon A4 9125 (sounds good but it isn't I cant run Racing Games at a steady 20fps) so in your words you have a gaming PC compared to mine.
Here here! PC = paperweight(total.decay='2 days')
@@shin3417 His problem is he tried to make his PC last for 13 years, it doesn't work like that. Your problem however, is that you bought a PC that was vastly incapable of doing what you intended for it to do. No your CPU doesn't sound good, it sounds like it was super cheap even when it came out (because it was), and you didn't have that PC for 3 years, because that CPU hit the market in late 2018, so at the very most, you've had it for 2 years. Your PC has basic memory, basic computing power, and very basic image rendering hardware, it's not meant for games. Now, reading back my comment, it's clear that I'm an angry old man, so I want to let it be known that you have a perfectly fine PC before saying anything else, it's great at doing what it was designed to do. It's a terrible shame to have you trying to do something on it, that it's just not capable of ever doing well.
@@Pellemain Update,I just upgraded it to 4gb of ram and runs games perfectly-ish.
1050ti is showing its age/position in the product stack, but it does alright. The AMD entry level Polaris cards are usually better only because they are cheaper per frame, but the 580 8GB pulls more power too so that matters in such a small form factor - 570 8GB would be great for a solution like this tho. Crysis Remastered or other VRAM hungry games (I think that's Crysis's issue other than optimization issues and made with next Gen GPUs in mind for higher than 30fps at High) would highly benefit from more than 4GB. The 1060 6GB even, tho that's quite a bit more even used. Very cool little release, regardless! Just some stuff I was thinking during the video lol. Great job tho!
This is one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen, love the form factor and comes with all the bells and whistles.
Ti not good lol
Carlos Gonzalez it’s not too bad at least it’s not GT 1030 ddr4 edition it’s plenty good enough for any emulation, the form factor is what your paying for but even still i think it’s a decent price for even that. i got the i5 9500F version with out Ram and storage for 519$ and il add 16gb of ddr4 and 1 terabyte of storage for 644$ when all is finished, this will be a livingroom emulation light gaming pc for me
please do fan test with a gpu based application in the future, thats usually what we're doing on these
ARE YOU KIDDING ME ETA PRIME?????????
hOW THE HECK ARE YOU DOING SO MANY VIDEOS , YOU ARE ON FIRE LITERALLY!
Still rocking an intel integrated graphics here, barely 40fps at 800x600 res, its crazy that this little thing is more powerful than my desktop.
@@InfectedChris Which GPU would be good for a 7+ year old "Intel i7-4770" + "Intel DH87RL Motherboard" (RAM allowed is DDR3-1600), which won't be out-off-date and would be usable in future if i plan to upgrade CPU & Motherboard.
@@Sup_D put 1650
@@jeremy__hopkins Oh yeah, forgot to mention that i am using a 14+ years old "Samsung SyncMaster 740NW" which only has a VGA connection (no HDMI), and max resolution of 720p. So, i am using a VGA to DVI-I adapter to use the Monitor with my Motherboard. Didn't really know much about PC parts around 7+ years ago, so just went with what the Seller gave me (i told him i was using a Old Monitor, and he gave me the DVI-I adapter, if i had understood more, would have instead gone for the HDMI adapter).
Great Vid. Would like to see Switch emulation tested on this mini PC
Perhaps do a teardown of the review unit if allowed? I believe the 1050 in there uses the MXM style format, so it could be possible to upgrade to a 2060
power draw from a 1050ti and a rtx 2060 is going to be way too different. 1050Ti MXM is 75W, RTX 2060 is 115W. THat power brick is only rated for 150W, and 65 of that is for the CPU and another 15 to 25 for storage and RAM. Also, good luck finding an MXM RTX 2060 card. The only place i know too get MXM cards is Eurocom. They dont have rtx and their 1070 is 150W at $800. THeir 1060 is 75W for $650.
@@jamesgerber4658 perhaps a different wattage power supply with the same plug would be fine
@@AlexSeibz maybe, but like other prebuilts, the bios might be locked, or the mobo might not be able to handle the higher power. There would be a need for better thermals as well. At that point, just get a zotac Zbox
3:10 judging by those numbers, I'd say that's actually a DRAM-less NVMe drive using QLC NAND and PCIe 3.0 x2
I wish this pc was cheaper, it has a dedicated gpu even if its a few generations behind and a small form factor. But for that price, you might as well go for a laptop that already comes with a screen and a keyboard some laptops even have dedicated gpus.
Ah yes, my favorite game, "Sky Rim". 🤣🤣🤣
Glad i wasn't the only one that noticed
Running at 080
I used to be a big PC until I took an arrow to the knee....
Super impressive. Think I am sold on getting one.
Honestly, this is the kind of thing I wish was more available before I built my bartop arcade machine. Putting one of these machines in there would have been much easier than the mess of a miniITX build I've got snaked around the insides. And considering the performance and price of the i5 variants, it's not even badly priced. I would have loved this a year ago.
I just bought it just for that , did you went pc to jamma adapter or pc to usb device to joystick/buttons ?
@@marianoen3158 I'm using a USB encoder. The bartop initially started as a cheap Raspberry Pi build so I started cheap, but I kept wanting more out of it. I initially tried one of those mini Lenovo PCs ETAPrime has featured on the channel, but the Intel graphics was unreliable so I eventually just pieced out a full miniITX Ryzen 5 build. The cheap Xin-Mo 2 player USB encoder I'm using hasn't had any performance issues for me so I never bothered to upgrade it to anything else. The one downside I will say for it is not having an XInput mode has sometimes been a pain. DInput works for a lot of things, but I ended up having to use a program to fake XInput for games like Killer Instinct (2013). Otherwise no complaints.
I'm have the same thing going on in my bartop with a Core i5 mini itx and something like this would make for a clean installation without sacrificing performance.
Mini beast. Better than my built.
dude i really love your channel. like your videos quality and info and just the amount of diffrent review are just amazing and veryinformative. also literally you make me want to uy most of the products you review.
keep it up man.
I bet your son is so happy to have a father who is so into tech and video games. A boys dream!
i7-8700 could be a good choice for this machine. Getting that hyper-threading
I tried to put together this spec in PCPartPicker, and honestly for new components this is not badly priced. Obviously you can get a better price/performance ratio with used parts, older parts, or AMD CPU, but for the components in this machine it is competitive with a home-built.
@mike h I tried and don't get anywhere close. Proof? What black magic are you using?
“I’m cool. I like video games. I play Sky Rim.”
ima buy this just because of the date you uploaded this on
You are a video pumping machine. ETA Prime videos are the greatest.
Sweet little powerhouse. Looks great.
Nice review! just want to know if it is noisy? I'm planning to buy i7 onne, for 4k video editing...
It would be really great to see how switch emulation performs on this mini pc :D
Wow performance is crazy!!!
This does have an NVME/pcie 2280 m.2 drive. The smaller 2242 m.2 slot is SATA. It even says it in the video. Also, SATA drive speeds top out around 500 MB/s and this is hitting 1500.
thanks for the review much respect 🙌
DDR4@2666mhz if you populate both slot's btw to any curious, not a mistake for ETA since he is using just 1 slot...single channel will down speed your ram. This thing looks bad ass even for 550$ depending, prob best to buy ram and SSD separate to save some cash, the i5 9400F is a 6core CPU btw for 50 or so bucks more, might as well. GREAT VIDEO!!
I like this, thanks for making !
The red power button kinda reminds me of a Supermicro system. I really like it. It seems like a proper mini PC, too. With discrete graphics even. My only gripe is the lack of USB-C, and honestly, I think every mini should have Thunderbolt. You really need external PCI-e lanes, for add-ons. That's the one thing this system lacks, is proper expandability. So, I'm gonna pass on it. But, it's nice to see that this mini platform is developing into something closer to an actual computer, instead of an over-glorified smart phone, or laptop. Maybe one day they'll become more common, and the prices will reflect the limited performance.
Well not as many people buy mini pc's especially high end ones so they probably couldn't get a good deal with a supplier on small boards with thunderbolt.
I've been hearing a lot of good things about upcoming Navi Based APUs coming up. 8 core 16 threaded APUs. Next build i want to do is a mini itx build for a living room emulator gaming box.
Considering building one myself
Ratchet and clank on pcsx2 was actually the 3rd game, I could tell by the weapon menu
we needed a teardown, please can you do that /
Linus got you covered
I like the small size with the tech inside
Woo this is interesting. I built up an ODYSSEY - X86J4105 and last night used it for a solid couple of hours. Its still honestly a little too weak for even light gaming. Realistically you will have more than just a game open like perhaps Discord, some web browser tabs etc. Though the ram was fine, the CPU was pegged to 100%.
This was with Win10 on an NVME and extreme power profile enabled. The EliteMini would be a way better experience and certainly gives a lot more preformance, but I guess you have to decide whether the 3x price increase is worth it to you. Budget gaming this is not, but its hard to beat this form factor. Either way I'm enjoying seeing the down sizing options coming out. Its also a major point to realise this is using a proper desktop CPU and not some crappy mobile chip.
Subnautica is awesome :D definetly put it in your benchmarks as lot as possible :D
I actually bought one of these things! If I traveled much, I'd consider taking it with me along with a travel monitor.
They have these things called laptops
@@heywoodjablowme1624 Actually I have a laptop, too. When I bought this thing, I was thinking of moving my gaming over to it. I've since realized that my laptop has a better GPU, but the laptop's CPU might be worse. I'd like to game mainly in my living room, where this thing is going, rather than my bedroom.
I bought one. I'm a console guy. and more of a PC noob. But I'm loving this can run retro gaming up PS3 (RPCS3). Also loving Xbox game pass. downloading the games. And games I buy like Read Redemtion 2 look great. I get that yes, Micrpspft flight simulaltor I need to run lower settings but I'm fine with that. I bought this one: i5-9500F / 16GB RAM+512GB SSD / US
I got a little scared during that subnautica clip .. that game is crazy
The webgl aquarium test might be flawed i.e. confounding factor such as browser limitations. I have the same results with a 3900X and 2080 Super.
Love your channel.
"Pequeño pero picoso!"
Translation: Small but spicy!
lmao
Hey love the shows! I’m always checking to see if you have follow ups to the handhelds you put out. Please make final review of the last one you did.
Another great video.
LaPToPs: reads title
LaPToPs: are u sure 'bout dat??
Congratulations on the work. When possible, test the retro emulators on the Poco X3
A teardown would be nice.
Thank you so much for this video 👍🏻👌🏻✌🏻
You made a spelling mistake in video description part. You said "had to test ut" you meant out :p haha love ya work ETA
Mini beast 🔥🔥🔥
Man when this first came out I was just blown away with the size & the power packed in it ,but the over heating issue is what are on me , it had a bad cooling system ,god knows if they resolved it or not
Nice unboxing
Too expensive, too limited, I'll stick to my rig.
@mike h It probably will not fit behind a monitor either which is the main attraction of this PC.
I love small build but ur right my micro build
Wanna see my "rig"?
@@fuupdaass275 thats geh. but yes, i wanna see your rig..
It's obviously not aimed at people with 'rigs'. Do you always announce your feelings about everything?
I'm looking at my Zotac mini GTX 1050 Ti card, figuring out how a 1050 Ti could've been crammed into such a small space. It then dawned on me that it could've been using the same GPU but on an MXM board rather than a PCI-E board, seeing that the DVI dual-link connector is missing and there's instead only HDMI and DisplayPort, which theoretically means it can only run 2 displays simultaneously instead of 3.
Great review.
love the idea of this honestly have been advocating for this kinda thing for awhile. though 5 years into owning my current computer i have to say at least at this point the cpu has held up better than the gpu at least in terms expected performance. meh dont need a new emulation computer and this is a little pricy for what it is.
Very nice form factor 🙂, the noise would be a little annoying, and 1050ti is a bit low end in 2020, I was hoping Amds new Apus could be a big generation leap, but they cut the Vega cores when they needed to increase them, so there won't be a quieter cheaper asrock desk mini to match this performance just yet.
I think on AMD's side, they are more focused on the upcoming "Zen 3" CPU's and APU's more (highly likely named 5000 Series).
The recent 4000 series APU's (which are still OEM & SI only) were probably released to clear the stock of older Semiconductors they have left for Zen 2.
It's sort of a custom build small form factor PC recommended for emulator PC Gaming
I would like to see a review of the i7 model
Can you try running Test Drive Unlimited on PPSSPP?!
It's even harder to emulate than God of War and Midnight Club.
Not a bad deal, honestly. But I am shocked it runs fine. Just bought and returned a desktop "gaming PC" with a Ryzen 5 and GTX1650 that would croak every time the CPU or GPU ramped up. You could run the GTA V benchmark but the moment the GPU went into action, the whole box puked all over the place. Ports died. Network port died. Sound died. In the old days, this would be a PSU or VRM issue but the bottom line is it was pulling too much power for what they built. So I'm shocked this little box can actually do what they say and run the hardware it does. Some bigger guys could take a lesson here. I am impressed.
That price tho smh, it's not going to beat an Old Dell with comparable options if not better.
@Steps You can pay 150-200 bucks for a barebones Asrock Deskmini and put a Ryzen APU in it.
@@elsasslotharingen7507 Actually finding a barebones Desk Mini is quite a trick last time I checked.
@Steps It isn't as powerful, but it's cheaper and consumes a lot less energy.
@Steps And if you need the form-factor, it's extremely relevant.
@@elsasslotharingen7507 Still irrelevant if you need BOTH the power and form factor.
I wonder how it would work with VR ? I'd like to see something like this for times when travelling, driving a VR headset playing PC VR games (like a big Steam collection).
its too expensive for what it offers.
For like $300-$400 I'd consider it but $600-$900 with all the parts included no way. That price you're better off doing a mini ITX build.
Yes thank goodness I'm not the only who thinks this.
Yes, thank you.
@Football Legends Live hmmm which laptop?
@@DeepThinker193 any with video card in them. (1050ti++ and higher ofc)
Wow, looks amazing
Actually, a RUclipsr named "Taki Udon" had already reviewed this one and posted his video on 1st October.
So, i am not really sure about the "no one is going to review it before it goes live" part.
I believe he meant that the company won’t review his video before posting. His comments aren’t influenced by the company providing the equipment.
@@rocketsci Guess that's what he really wanted to mean.
He is saying no one from the company who made this box will not influence this review.
Nice review very nice.
Thanks for another awesome review. This is a great little machine considering the Desktop CPU in it. Can the Graphics Vard be upgraded to something new with similar power consumption, say a GTX 1650 or GTX 1650 SUPER or it uses Laptop version of the Graphics card (MXM)?
Thanks for making me aware of this tiny pc.. I think I'll get one for my wife
That’s an insane little box 😩
So basically this is competition to the hades canyon nuc. While this has decent performance they really should have included 10th gen Intel cpus as well as a gtx 1650 for the gpu. The TDP for both of those is identical so there no reason they couldn't have used them and with a 10th gen cpu you would get way more performance because they all have hyperthreading. It also would have made it worth their asking price.
Price was not as bad as I was expecting. $599 for a 4core 16gb of ram and a 256gb SSD. Not a great deal but they put it in a little box for me 😃
Quite an interesting Mini PC may get the $400 bare bones version. Excellent for Esports titles and single player games.
Waiting for something like this with multiple USB4 ports. Hopefully early next year.
Good video as always you should try genshin impact on one of those
Imagine playing VR games with the PC powered VR headset with this Mini gaming PC.
For these read and write speed. It has to be NVMw drive. Otherwise Sata drive simply cannot reach anything near these speed.
Nice! I can finally use it for my bartop arcade. I wonder how it works with sega niaomi games
3:04, those can't be SATA numbers. The fastest one tops at 6 gbps, which translates to 600 MB/s. That 1575 MB/s looks like a 1x PCIe 3.0 lane, so maybe is SATA Express (2x PCIe 3.0 lanes).
It's probably 4 PCIe 2.0 lanes as this thing uses H310 and H310 doesn't support DMI 3.0
Every one in the comments complaining “this is too expensive for performance even if it’s small” me: looks at Mac mini
Which is $699
@@firmman4505 with no discreet GPU
Only thing the mini has over this pc is a thunderbolt port.
What controller do u use for wii and wii u? Also, could u do a video for wii set up especially for the controller?
Hi ETA! The nvidia drivers for the gpu are the ones from 1050 desktop version or are the ones from 1050 laptop version?
2:24 Anyone else think that was the price when the picture changed?
Just a heads up. Xenia's canary build is showing some promise. I played ace combat 6 and lost odyssey today.
The amount of sbc is making my head spin
Can you please do a video on putting rgb buttons in the xtention rec room master cabinet. And also how to set it up with LEDblinky so it only lights up the usable buttons for each game.
There is one problem with these mini computers at the time of release, they are already a bit behind. Now it would be nice to have 10400f and 1650 Ti.
Love it! 👍
Hey ETA do you think you could put together a OG xbox hack guide?