How to Pack a Rucksack
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2011
- One Shepherd's 9-minute training video "How to Pack a Rucksack" employs the USGI Medium ALICE.
The specific focus of this training is for combat patrols in environments other than mountain warfare. Mountain warfare includes climbing and rappelling tasks that necessitate a weight distribution of placing the heaviest items closer to the center of gravity -- the spine.
That exception aside, the majority of combat environments demand a weight distribution of heaviest items placed as close to the shoulder blades as possible, and balanced left to right. Furthermore, notice that items of immediate need are intentionally placed in the outside pockets, flaps, or added onto either side of the rucksack where they can be accessed readily.
This training video makes recommendations. Your unit will, of course, develop its own Standard Operating Procedure.
-- One Shepherd in conjunction with Olive Drab Journal and Battle Rattle Radio
If you put the sleeping bag at the bottom of the ruck sack and the sleeping pad at the top, your legs and hips carry the weight and leaves less of a burden on your back and shoulders.
way i do it and back in day use the dry bag for sleeping bag 5 gal gas can straps hold it to the pack old belts
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Yes! The heaviest load should be in the middle of the lower back/bottom of the ruck, NOT up high. Packed like this, one slight bend over to avoid a tree branch and the ruck will either slide off or pull the wearer over onto their head-bad load plan!
the best optimal way is matching your body's axis of movement and center of gravity with the pack, making it as dense and uniform in weight as possible, in the shape of a box from top of the shoulders to the bottom of lower back. but yeah, if you have one thing heavier than anything else but for some reason you refuse to spread it evenly, which is best, but the heavy crap handles best at the top of the back, then lower. it's fine if you stack extra stuff, heavy loads as high as you want, because there will be weight at the bottom to counter act it making it impossible to fall over as long as you pack it evenly. i guess this is what tribes in africa have figured out thousands of years ago lol. and why mountain trekkers will always stack things up high before adding downward force or back pulling force coming from the middle or bottom of your pack. it throws everything off.
Field stripping the MREs will take up less space, and save you from having to slice them open in the field.
RIP Eastwind.
Thank you for the information. I am doing that next time I go hunting
This was great, been searching for "jungle survival guide" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Ryanzon Survival Genie - (just google it ) ? Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my neighbour got excellent success with it.
Yeah, but don't forget that the bag is very useful they can pack anywhere empty. Armor use them as toilets
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Very professional video, many thanks. I worked hard to properly pack my alice (large) and now laugh at what I was told..."dump that crap out and load this....02 claymores, 02 radio batteries, 04 belts 60 ammo, 02 smoke grenades, 02 CS grenades, 01 night scope. I ended up with room for a poncho liner, all of my Crats placed in my socks tube style and a towel and toothbrush/razor in the top flap. I also ended up with every 2 qt and 1 qt canteen I could attach. Water and ammo was the motto of the day. Thank you for this video.
I would try to keep the socks more easily accessible. My preference. I've always taken care of my feet. And changing socks is such an easy and overlooked way to keep your feet healthy for the hike.
1990 all over again. Thank you!
Being in the UK. I have a Arctic sleep bag and mount it on the bottom of my pack using an alice sleep system carrier. Ive never seen the spagetti straps before, so this was informative. Thanks.
Apart from protecting gear from water, one of the best uses is for an emergency shelter.
You can make a small pup tent or a lean to with it. A lot of people I know who like to pack light when hiking will carry one or two tarps and make their shelters from nylon cord and sticks they cut in the woods.
Fantastic Video on How to properly Load an ALICE pack with all of the essentials and yet still Have room for other items. This video reminds Me of the Old style Military ones I used to watch in Boot Camp back in San Diego when I was a wee younger.
best video i have seen with dealing with a sleeping bag on the ALICE and where the shoulder straps need to be positioned.
That Pancho should be inserted into the cover of ruck so when it rains it's easy access. The sleeping bag on top prevents the head from looking forward while in the prone position. You could easily pack more... stuff, jam, cram that stuff in. That sleeping bag is twice as big as it should be.
Finally, a basic no frills load out. I have been looking for this for some time.
Subbed, liked, and shared on stumbleupon. Great vid!
This is a very interesting and informative video. Thanks for posting it.
Thank you for teaching the sleeping bag hitch system to the backpack. Good video.
I feel more confident concerning my previous purchase of my medium ALICE pack(s).
Thanks - I enjoyed your video.
Great video! I find myself checking back and re-watching this video every fall as I pack for bowhunting. Thanks for the great info.
thank you so much for this video :) learned so much about weight distribution and comfortable using a alice :) now i really love this pack even more !!!
This is an awesome video on packing the medium alice pack, and I will refer back to it when necessary. You guys should put out a video on packing the large alice rucksack, I just got one but it's a little tricky to pack correctly. Thanks.
great video thanks for sharing always learning
Thanks brother.
Outstanding informative video. Thank you sir
Great videos, gentlemen!
Pretty Spot on, aside from a couple of Squad specifics distributed, but all in all, this is a great one.
Good job matt
Well done sir, very educational!
man my family was kinda poor where I had this kinda bag used by my grandfather as a school bag, man we're those the day's
Average Joe the best school bag ever in my opinion I had the same one, money was tight growing up and my parents went to a surplus store and bought me a bag that in my dads exact words "won't wear out and will last you until you finish school" it only just wore out about 2 months ago which is nearly 2 years after I left school
Hamish Dow dang that's really cool man
Back when a man made due with what he had.
Lol ramen noodles
Average Joe 1204 Sounds like my college days haha. That and lots of cheap, crappy beer lol. Ahhhh, good times.
You could use the compression straps of the compression sack to compress your fart sack, then it wouldn't look like you strapped your sea bag to your ruck.
Also, those spaghetti straps are all wrong. Those are used with the M-1956 web gear and carry the blanket/sleeping bag and shelter half, and those snap tab deals sure enough are an attachment point, they run under your arms and attach to the rectangular rings on the front of the M-1956 suspenders, the sewn tab at the end just keeps it from running through the adjustment buckle.
Most of your other fails have already been covered by others.
They don't care though, they probably make a mint off of training people who are not gonna question them on their explanations of things.
Great stuff guys. All the way from the U.K.
A forced road march with a loaded ALICE is an ass whoop.
Awesome video sir!
Outstanding video. Thank you!
Thanks Matt!
Great video, tried repacking with some of this in mind and I think it will wear much better!
Great info....I'll keep this in mind when I repack my bug-out bag.
Straight forward information.
Given that the weight difference between the entrenching tool and magazine pouch can vary significantly, the two canteens should be attached to the bottom of the ruck, not the top ( even though they would most likely be worn on a pistol/tactical belt or a load bearing harness).
Insightful and informative. Both did a fine job. Thanks.
Great video, thanks!
Awesome video, thanks from Spain.
Awesome video. Quite informative. Gracias.
Great question! The Bivy (read: Gortex water proof) bag is a cover slip that your sleeping bag is put into to make water proof. From there your simply "Stuffing" your now water proofed covered sleeping bag system into the Black Compression bag (read "Stuff bag"). Ive conducted patrolled over alot of miles in alot of weather conditions ( read rain..heavy heavy rain) and it stays perfectly dry on the out side of your Ruck..plus we are always rucking so much stuff that we need that space inside
Most unit SOPs (standard operating procedures) require your sleeping mat on the top of the ruck and require your sleep system stuff pack to be packed inside the ruck.
well done vide and good advice. thanks
great video !
Good vid ! Thanks for posting !
Great job! Thanks for this info. Anthony.
Awesome gear it gust looks so cool and stay cool
great video
Awesome video, thanks from the uk
Thank you😺
Best damn video I have seen yet. Outstanding! Keep them coming, please!
you are easily pleased.
Really usefull! Thak you for detailed info.
Great video, man.
good video thank for the information!
I use a viet nam lg ponco liner with a fleece throw sewn onto it. It is sewn up as a bag. Note with modern liners you may need to sew a fleece strip down the bag if the liner can't fully wrap around you. Wt=2.8lbs. It will take you down to 50 with light brown Mil- poly balaclava,clothes, and heavy socks. I made a light nylon hammock. Left a small hole in bottom of the bag. Run the para cord that cinches the end of the hammock through the hole. Pull liner up around you. Don't need a bag or pad.
Your a hero.
Very good vid!! 👌🏿
thanks for the video
Jeepers. Its certainly a way of doing it, but it ain't too flash.
Couple of points:
1. The sleeping bag sack is effectively useless at keeping the bag dry. Biff it, and shove your sleeping bag in your pack liner, pushing it into the corners of the bottom of the pack.
2. The gigantic tarp is okay, I guess, but a poncho or hootchie will work better (or any 2x3m waterproof sheet with cords). Fold & put in the space between frame and back pad, using some thin bungie cord to hold it in.
3. Biff the spare t-shirt, accept that you're going to get smelly.
4. Biff the MRE heaters, get a gas cooker and break those suckers down into a single bag. Biff all non-essential items.
5. Gore tex trousers are wank unless static. Put them in the top flap of your pack.
6. Randomly stuff the GT jacket into the pouch, shoving it down and in with your thumbs. Leaving a big bit sticking out and cranking the pouch strap down is naff as all fuck.
7. Cut down the sleeping mat and fold, so it will fit more neatly under the top flap (or at the bottom of) your pack.
8. Remove E-tool from the outside of the pack & shove into the bottom, under or beside the sleeping bag.
9. A class kit (NVE, binos, etc.) goes in an outer pouch, not deep in your pack- your 2IC will thank you when he's doing his checks.
In general, this is how a pogue packs an ALICE. She's human as you are, treat her as such, and she'll accept anything with vigorous fisting and loving tenderness.
Man these guys at One Shepherd are squared away!
Thanks for guide, good stuf.
good tutorial!
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great vid.
I like your channel keep the vids coming.
wow ok thanks guys great video now know how too use my pack good too know this thanks again
I wanna pack like this when I travel!!!
we just used the sinch straps to tie down our bivy sacks to the top and boot bands for the iso mats on the bottom.
That bit about the tie down straps is wrong. The system was meant for use with the M1956 suspenders that have an eyelet that the button fastener was supposed to loop through.
Night vision equipment and optics are considered sensitive items and there for have to be carried on your person and would never be allowed to be stored in your ruck!!
Is that John Candy narrating?
Hahaha 😜😈
Sure sounds like it!
@@squirreltamer2548 hahaha!!!!
Hahaha omg I never realized that.
That’s not a real gun! That’s a pellet gun!
Our 19 Delta Cavalry Scouts carried more than that PLUS a PRC -77 Squad Radio :)
Mil- brown poly thermals can take you into the 40's, because you are completely surrounded in the hammock by the fleece&liner. Ozark makes a great fleece bag @2.3lbs for same temps. I place GTex jacket in the top flap. Dry bag holds: liner,u-ware,heavy socks,tee,fleece gloves and hat,mid wt thermal, TP and hanky. Inner pouch for a 2 liter hydra-bladder. I use para cord to hang the 48x96" hammock (I'm 69"). Pcord is looped through a sleeve at each end. Use heavy duty thread-6 passes. Cold War Vet
Subbed. Great content. Thank you.
Very Nice!
Nice vid... ALICE rules!!!
Awsome than.kd for the tips
Used both the small and LRRP size great carriers , the small one is great for 24 hrs
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing when I seen him flip that lightly loaded pack over his head.
Good vid
Strip those MRE's down man. You don't need the whole damn package.
ymp5000 right?
well Mre is meant for 24 hours, breakfast lunch supper etc
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Not the US MREs. They have 1 meal per package.
what was your MOS? I've never been able to save more than a few ounces by stripping down. Best outcome is just to lose the excess packaging.
@@GruntProof It doesnt loose weight more then make the package smaller and easier to back. Ounces lead to pounds too.
thanks much
And this can be yours, if the Price is right.
"Two hundred dollars, Bob!"
Great video by the way. The ruck looks good.
To all those wondering about the spaghetti straps for the sleeping bag, you probably haven't seen them because they are, last I checked, Vietnam vintage from the M1956 webbing set. Not to say they aren't still produced, but just that that's when they are from, so you may not have even been issued them.
is it just me i love the way he says rucksack :D
Trying to get the most out of my ALICE mid-size.
glad I came across this video. been trying to figure out what to pack in my A.L.I.C.E. pack for Airsoft games. thanks
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Airsoft seems like a good way to practice tactics in my opinion. If your ex military or law enforcement
(or even current), seems like a good way to stay sharp in a non-lethal way. Especially if you carry real GI loads.
It is. There are events that are 48 hours long which require both a rucksack and your A bag on top of your 1st and 2nd line stuff. They are very fun and veteran owned/operated/veteran played.
I would have the opening for the case containing the entrenching tool facing the other way so that it can be accessed without removing the backpack.
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Awesome, I just found a guy about 30 minutes away on craigslist with about 90 large/medium ones for $5 each.
Trey, the poncho liner (woobie) is at the bottom, there is no poncho but there is a gortex parka and pants. for rain and cold. Wtach the vid again
Great video, I just have a few questions. What size tarp is that? And what does the military use traps like that for? Thanks.
man, I'm glad we had large rucks during Basic/AIT, can't imagine trying to mess around with those spaghetti straps in the field.
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What do you mean by "The Field"?
Going out to train in the woods. Aka 'field problems' or just the field. We'd go out for a week or two at a time. Do they not do that anymore? Of course almost everyone is Stryker or mech these days. Ain't about that light infantry lifestyle no more.
I think you saw way to much into this considering my name...... I was hoping it would have made you laugh.
Have you seen the hip/belt/suspension technology on backpacks like the osprey argon and gregory baltoro 75 or any of the kelty/rei/arc'teyrex backpacks? Modern packs are fitted to your body size(go to a good outdoor store and get fitted for a pack), most have independent suspension for the shoulder harness, and hip belts. The hip belt,shoulder straps and frame are much more ergonomically designed and padded. The cost is worth the comfort. I use a Gregory Baltoro 75 myself with 55+ lb in gear
Nevee carried a ruck sac itself, but i've done plenty of hikes with large camping back packs. As a life long Scout, and a 1st class one at that (highest in my country) we were always taught to carry the heaviest equimpent right by your hip belt, so the heaviest stuff gets carried by your hip.
Then the higher you get, the ligther you get.
For me, my sleeping back is always on the bottom, sleeping pad on top.
Any comments on why these 2 philosophies vary so much?
I mean, i get it, i wont get shot at during a hike, but non the less i dont want my maps and compass in the bottom either, also, besides, a ruck sack when it comes to it, its just a large framed backpack. So i'm really interested in hearing why the philosophies vary so much
I'd like to see your ruck and the improvments you've made.
Very informative, but you forgot the First Aid eq.! Either inside the pack or clipped to the outside.
that's is one thing I love about my ALICE pack is all the I guess MOLLE straps?
So in another video I saw 2 quarts of water are attached to the LBE. So 2 additional quarts go on the bag for a total of 4 quarts?
I have a 40L combat molle pack from the australian army :) very good
Depending on the rucksack i use .. i tend to keep mine tied to base of my rucksack either in a dry bag or i roll it up inside my tent & keep in my tent bag thats tied to base of rucksack (If im on my own) not sure if that helps you but something to consider