Hey guys! Quick vid about my thoughts on progression in games and how much it affects my enjoyment. Might be a bit of a controversial opinion, so please let me know your thoughts! :) Also, live rn if you wanna come hang - www.twitch.tv/eggwickgg
eggwick you are epic and i love your videos, i was bronze 3 and now i am about to lose plat, i am so greatful for my plat gun buddy that i will get, now that i hit that, i am going to stop worrying about rank so much like i use to, i am having so much fun losing and winning
Is it bad that im G1 and use a smurf acct in Bronze to purely practice my aim and strategies? Not to shit on noobs, but play purely for the sense of training my aim and the comp feeling instead of playing dm or unrated and running into plats n diamonds etc.
The video honestly reminds me of my first days in Minecraft where everything was so new and exciting. I would literally spend hours just learning new things and it was the most fun I had. Same applied to Valorant. The better you got the less fun the game became and started becoming more a chore because of how good everyone became and how I had to keep up. If I manage to miss even 2 days of playing valorant I suddenly see myself bottom fragging for the next week or so on my Valorant games.
Minecraft just has a special place in my heart. Not because of its gameplay, mechanics, and definitely not for its graphics but rather because of nostalgia. I like going back to my world and reliving the memories that i made throughout the years. Though i wish i could go back to my very first world. It was in my mom's iphone 4. At the time the world was still like 256 by 256, the height limit was still 128 and at the time i thought that taller was better so i just made these tall structures made out of dirt
Also, as ranked grinder myself (which I assume most of us are), I noticed that the higher you go, the more structured and "textbook-styled" way you have to play the game. Like, in plat/diamond elo, you have to do this or do that in a specific way whereas in lower elo, you have a lot more freedom and less pressure from the people around you
I love being in low ranks in valorant, its kinda easy and a lot of fun talking to teammates and trolling the enemies, but sometimes you will encounter plat-level bronzes that will completely destroy your team...
Tbh, I don't mind being iron that much. I don't play Valorant to be good, I play it for the human interaction I get in chat. I don't have many friends so it's a nice way for me to have conversations with interesting people when I have no one else to talk to.
this this this so much this its so frustrating being bad at everything even though i spend so many of my waking hours for last few years grinding and looking up guides and desperately trying to improve this video felt disgusting to watch
@@pieperson444 if you don’t even enjoy the process then you’re just hurting yourself, doing something to be good at it is very unhealthy especially with a game Your mindset is very wrong
i’ve thought about the “enjoyment over statistics/results” mindset alot and while doing so i’ve always wondered if me looking back and thinking about how good the older days of gaming and whether or not my memories are clouded by nostalgia. am i thinking better of it than it really was (brain repressing the bad memories, etc) or if it truly was that enjoyable? for instance, valorant is still the same game it was a year ago at its core. yet, i feel like i had such a better time in the beta days and such? i know there’s been meta changes and new agents etc but still i hope my point is somehow being made here. idk. just an open letter, input is more than welcome
I understand where you are coming from. It could have been a mix of both. There have been a few times where I tried to redownload old games because I missed them, but I get reminded to why I quit in the first place (hackers, p2w, changed game mechanics, less friendly players, dying communities etc...) which were not things I had in mind when I redownloaded the game. There isn't exactly a way to relive those past experiences where I had so much fun in these games because my mindset, skills, the game itself and the community have just changed.
I don't think that you necessarily remember the game better than it really was. Part of you missing the "old days" would be because you genuinely had fun in the games you played and enjoyed the experiences, whether because of friends or because of certain aspects of the game. I think another part would also be because humans tend to want what they don't have. From what you said, this may be applicable to you if you are not enjoying the game(s) that you're currently playing. You want to go back to the "good old days" where you could fool around, experiment, have fun with your friends instead of playing more seriously. I share the same sentiment with you, and in order to not look back too much, I just try to enjoy and appreciate every moment I have in games. I think it's also important to make it clear to yourself whether you want to have fun in (certain) games or take them seriously and do well. Games change over time, but the human connection and lessons we learn in games stay with us. Great comment, thank you for making me reflect on my gaming experiences
you are definitely seeing older days through rose colored glasses, but what's wrong about it? I think it is perfectly natural haha. I think you are enjoying it as much as you did back in the day, much like how I enjoy food as much today as I did a year ago.
I personally don't agree. The feeling of pulling of clutches, amazing spray transfers, the odd outplay with certain agent abilities at higher ranks, is always a great feeling. Having outplayed a player who in the previous round outplayed you is a great feeling. I just recently had a game in Diamond 2 that we were down 10-2 first half, came back and won 15-13. Will never forget that game because of how we played in that 2nd half and the communication and plays we made as a team (all solos as well). It must just be certain people, but my earliest memories aren't fond memories of games, because at the end of the day, you don't understand what is happening in the game to know that you are doing well or that you just pulled off an amazing play, you are just figuring out the game. Games like campaign games are probably more suited to your train of thought, but for multiplayer, I personally don't agree.
I love the statistical improvement and knowing I've came far in s game from my beginnings, and playing a game at the highest level had always been the most fun for md
I'm not a psychological expert but I can definitely say that you are enjoying Valorant more than the player sitting in Radiant 1. If you get too good at something you would be doing the same things over and over again. Which is boring and causes a lot of strain. So what the video means is however bad or good you are, you should stop caring about stats because the more you try to be the best, the more you realize how much you need to fight for that position, because at one point in the leaderboard(mostly the top 0.001% or what we call Diam/imm/rad) everyone has the same experience in the game, so your stats/plays/wins don't matter. This occurs in Radiant often but can occur sometimes in Imm/Diamond too
Last year I was completely new to FPS games playing Valorant. Never played CS before, never played COD, none of em. I was completely noob and got flamed by people a lot of times. I was Iron then. Now I've only reached bronze and doesn't have any desire to climb higher. It's enough for me.
i've been bad in valorant for a while and before I was always complaining about that I hadnt ranked up in 6 months lol, but after I learned to just enjoy it after taking some long breaks, I started enjoying my matches more and realising that its much more fun when you just play, not focusing on your rank or anything, to just enjoy your match
Couldn’t agree more. I have a lot of nostalgia for playing Pokémon, back when I was a kid, and not knowing anything and just playing the game has a lot of fond memories attached to it, and one reason why it was so memorable. Another recent example was Breath of the Wild, playing through that was amazing but eventually when you finish the game and feel like you know everything it’s just sad you won’t be able to replay the game like you did the first time, it just feels different
I can't agree that being bad is leads to have more fun than being good. I spent about 9 years playing league of legends and being really bad at it just to realise i wasted most of this time trying to improve, get really nervous just to realise that i don't have fun playing it for last 5 years. If i would achieve my goal i would just quit playing it earlier and try other games instead of trying to convince myself that there is reason to play league.
I couldn’t agree more, I never liked ranked, and one day I decided to try it. And it just wasn’t fun. I noticed my friends who did play ranked often weren’t enjoying themselves nearly as much as me and my other friends just messing around. Being bad is a blessing
I think it's one of the reasons I start playing a new agent I'm not comfy with yet every 40 matches or so. It's just alot of fun to me figuring things out and learning new concepts and adding to those with my own ideas
I'm not sure a lot of people play competitive games at a high rank to remember their times playing it. The reason I personally want to be a higher rank is to prove to myself that I can reach my goals.
Started at Iron1 and am currently Gold1 and climbing. It's the process of seeing noticeable improvement over time which makes it fun. Great content as always
That thrill of discovery is pretty amazing at the beginning. My best example of this was playing BOTW for my first time. Exploring the vast open world was so awesome and cool that I couldn't stop playing. I played for a while, finished the game and went for a replay. But I discovered it was much less fun. I knew how to use every mechanic. I knew where to go and how to be efficient. There was no new discovery and problem solving. So yeah, enjoy being new :)
totally agree. the same happened to me with league where instead of having more fun with the game, i got pretty bored after being diamond+ for a few years. i became way better than i’d ever imagined when i started out but i starting taking winning more seriously for a while and ppl in ranked were just as toxic no matter how high i climbed. also as i got better at the game older concepts i learned felt more simple and the game just felt more formulaic to play. i don’t regret getting high elo but league definitely doesn’t hit the same anymore
My friends always want to play competitive and I feel stressed af, because I know I'm the lousiest in the team. I can't play risky game and have fun because they don't want me to. So it's kind of disappointing as well, just wanted to have fun with them but can't do so.
The wonderful feeling of improving is reflected in your willingness to put effort into learning. What you're talking about can go on until you quit learning. That is up to you especially since valorant is ever changing. The human mind is a powerhouse of near limitless potential.
This reminds me of overwatch, I originally placed bronze when the game first came out, and fell in love with the game, over 2 or 3 years I grinded up to T500, and when i finally hit it, I felt dead inside. Looking back I didn't enjoy the game at all from diamond up, I hated playing metas, stressing wins, and most of all not being able to goof of and have fun with my lower ranked friends. Over watch holds a special place in my heart, but I honestly think I could never play it again. (Competitively)
Wow. This punched a hole in my heart. I just started helping my friend in Gta online, he’s level 8 while im level 186. And all i can think of is: “how do i level up quicker as a new player? Do i do some races or something?” And to think about it, everyone grows, and in gta online, i grow richer and better. And i leave behind all the things that don’t earn me much money anymore.
Yeah i recently recall a memory like literally last night when i invited this guy to our 4 stack party and the couple games of it were complete laughter and jokes and seeing one of my friends whiff on their raze ult and clutch made us all laugh. That same ult also wished i died in game cause of something i said and guess who died first… THE RAZE oh i love them so much but i know it wont be the same when school is back
damn, this is kinda interesting to think about, but now that I look back on the games I used to grind, it just doesn't have the same spark that they used to. Overwatch, terraria, minecraft, all amazing and fun games but I'll never get to experience hitting my first tree or learning my first character ever again. Idk this video just made me think a lot, good job on it!
i completley agree, i used to play overwatch and for about a season i was in bronze and that was the hight of my fun, you can improve so fast which makes you feel acomplished whereas nearer the end of my overwatch days i was diamond where i wasn't improving at all, just grinding for sr.
I completely agree Eggman! Valorant has been my first fps and i was stuck in Iron for 4 acts. But i loved playing and doing things. Later i ranked up very fast to silver and stuck there for a while. But it was fun coz i had my friends and we gad all types of events - good and bad. Now I am in Gold and yes the game does feel fresh and i feel so much improvement and goodness ❤️. Thanks for the everyday suggestions. Love you ❤️
I remember the good times when I just started playing Rocket League, I always played competitive with my brother. We took it very seriously even though we sucked xd. We were stuck in bronze/silver but it was so much fun
I believe a core part of the fun of games is the discovery aspect of it, and maybe that's the most appealing part about it. However I think it's what we do to keep it fresh that matters as well, it's not entirely the games job to provide you enjoyment. We can always mess around; especially with friends, when we hit a point of slow improvement. But the best part about these kinds of games is it's endless replay value. But stuff like story games and all that are an experience built to enhance the discovery aspect, so it has little replay value unless you want to go back to relive poignant moments or just well designed aspects of the game. Remember to always take your time, and don't rush to consume the game. Take your time with it, and well, you might just break through thousand of hours before you know it
you know what? I completely agree with this guy. I know this is valorant content, but I have a related game experience to bring up. As most of you have probably already heard of the game genshin impact. When I first started playing the game, there were so many things to explore, and it was really fun messing around practically not knowing anything. Just like this guy said, he didn't care he was bad at runescape, but he had fun anyway. Later on into the game, all I focused on was grinding and getting better at the game. Every day I would spend all my time just trying to grind. After a few weeks of grind, I was tired of it. It was so boring I wanted to abandon the game, which I did... But like this guy said learning new things in the game can be a really enjoyable time. There is no need to focus all on getting better at a game. Just enjoy your time there!
I agree with this video completely, before i hit immortal, i was plat and i often played with friends n it was super fun.Now valorant for me is just a matter of improvements rather then having fun.
I used to think being bad at a game like valorant is bad but after watching the video made e realize cherishing the moments when I made a bad play which gave me and y friends a good laugh instead of cold focus while hitting every shot yes I would be disappointed when I lose or throw but there was still room for fun improvements
I suck at Valorant, and seeing all my friends in Diamond and Immortal made me feel like I would never get any better compared to them. Still, over time I figured that everyone gets better at their own pace and to just have fun with the game instead of worrying about what your friends or people might say.
Everytime I watch Iron only tournaments I just wish I could get back to iron because it seems a lot more relaxed and fun than the higher elo. However I am still improving and I probably won't drop valorant until I get Radiant
to each their own personally i like being good at games i dont see the fun in sitting and watching other people play because you are constantly dead... i was a beast in BO2 back in the day and that is my favourite memories i have of gaming constantly quick scoping people and getting called a hacker etc i was also just a kid which made it feel even better
I don't know if I'm the only one but as I'm getting better, I'm able to read my opponents better, (talking about valorant), and when I die, I spectate a player and give him all the necessary info, and think what would i do here, and I get tilted because what I thought I would do, does not happen. I know it's in any competitive game, but it just doesn't feel right anymore, I think I've lost all my excitement about any FPS game in general, and I want it back. I built my PC 3 years back and I enjoyed learning so much, everything was new, now it's just dull.
yes when i first started playing valorant with my friends we had so much fun and we knew we were bad so when we did something stupid we all just laughed. now weve gotten so much better and whenever someone does a stupid play we just yell at each other. :(
I know everyone says this, but the early days of fortnite with my friends were so fun because we would do anything just to get a win like bushcamp, skybase, rocket ride, etc. Not sweating and just messing around is the best part of games
Agreed, the only problem I find is the 2 randoms I get as teammates in this last 15 comp matches have been extremely awful, is fun to improve, but there is no fun in having to carry a team with your friend(s).
I used to be a hypixel sweat (lol) and it got boring cuz I got good at it and all of the things that noobs thought were really amazing wasn’t all that impressive and it was much more fun when I was really impressed with myself for doing something that made me look good which is why I switched over to valo currently b2 and enjoying the game
I really feel this ngl, I played overwatch for 3 years and was improving over that time and reached Masters rank by the time I was quitting the game. Now in Valorant I just can't get the same feeling since I had already developed my aim and game sense in like the first week of playing because of my experience in competing in overwatch.
Learning R6 Siege was possibly the most fun I had playing the game, then when I learned everything it got frustrating. This is the exact same with me learning Valorant
This is the gaming equivalent of a teacher telling his students to enjoy primary school before they go to the shit show that is highschool and university
As someone who hit master in league and is hardstuck bronze in valorant, this is 110% true. Being high elo in league was the goal but was soon as I got there the game was no longer fun. Every win was a relief and a loss was agonizing. Queuing up and going 8/14 on Breeze(fuck that map) with the boys is fun af because I don’t care nearly as much about winning or losing
I remember playing runescape when I was like, 7. All I did was build fires for people to cook their lobsters and swordfish, on that one island. I don't even remember what it's called anymore...but it was the most fun thing in the world to me. XD
That Video reminds me of the old days when Ark PvE was still a real survival experience - I think that was the most fun time I ever had in a Game... sadly this time is long gone and since ark PvP is way too stressy, time intensitive and sweatty I haven't touched the game in a long time.
I couldn’t agree more. For me the game was most fun early on when I was still in plat. Now that I have hit immortal I’m not really sure where to go from here and miss being able to just play for fun.
I've generally been playing more unranked than competitive and the game does become simply more fun. There's nothing to stress about if you lose and you can do anything funny with most people not complaining.
In osu! It's just so fun to go play maps that are way beyond my level. And after improving a little, i come back to those maps and i hit some things that i never thought i would and repeat, as soon as you get really good. You would think back on the times you were bad, my fondest memories when i played 1.6 and just messed around pool_day and talk to people
I had so much fun in the first days of valorant but now its kinda getting old like ive done everything i could have... and yet im still hardstuck bronze 1
The thing about being bad at a certain game is your teammates and such. I play Valorant a lot and I come across a lot of toxic players that demotivates me from playing the game. There will always be a toxic minority in every game, but being bad at a game sometimes demotivates you from doing better. But after you mute those teammates and move forwards from the toxicity, you have start enjoying the game and get better at it!
For me I am still very new to Valorant and was introduced to it by my friends. So my natural first goal was to get to be as good as them. While a lot of the time I still bottom frag I have gotten to the point where I am actually an asset to the team rather then a burden. With this goal in mind there has always been a reason for me to play. However if I ever end up reaching it or even surpassing it I do think a lot of the fun will be taken out of the game. One of my friends is SUPER into FPS games and is by far the best in our group. (We only play unrated btw no smurfing :) Since I am so far below his skill level I don't really mind playing with him as he can teach me. However my other friends that are closer in skill level to him but still not as good never want to play with him because they say that they don't like getting carried cause it makes them feel bad about their skill basically. So if I ever get to that skill level I wouldn't want that to happen as for me playing with my friends and having fun is WHY I PLAY Valorant. Anyway just my two cents on the matter. (Also since I don't play ranked I don't really know how good I am but I'd probably say I would be high iron-low bronze idk. Only been playing for like 3 weeks.)
This is why I only play unrated Its so much fun playing casually and trying new things Edit: Same thing for tf2 I loved being inexperienced and trying dumb things and learning for players
He kinda spittin. My most memorable times playing osu was when i was 6/7 digit and could barely pass a high 4 star. Now i just get mad because im stuck 60k rank and everytime i rank up, i lose 1k rank within a week. So now it just an endless cycle of me grinding back to my origional rank before i deteriate to much. Gotten to the point were i dont really care that much and havnt been playing less often.
Yep that feels about right only time i feel some emotion is being in a 1 vs x , almost getting an ace or playin with a friend good game for beginners but gets somewhat borin when u reach into a higher rank
It's like that famous quote; "It's about the journey, not the destination." I remember thinking that I'd be really happy hitting Gold, but the best times were when I was just goofing around with friends. Good content as always. 🤌💯
it felt so good when my gold friends let me play with them when i started. i was bad in a lobby with better players and it helped me learn. now they're plat-diamond and im gold
Jokes over, I'm always bad. I think different games have different ways of having fun. For Valorant I have met and played with really chill players, I'm an iron player, and just had fun talking to them. For leveling games like Runescape and Maple story, it was to grind and level up so you can have the ability to explore new places or unlock new skills. Having friends made it even more fun. There was another PVP game where I played the private server, which allowed you to use existing maps to create new custom maps (by adding blocks and teleport portals), and people would just create these custom map rooms and strangers would join to see what their creations are about.
Hey guys! Quick vid about my thoughts on progression in games and how much it affects my enjoyment. Might be a bit of a controversial opinion, so please let me know your thoughts! :)
Also, live rn if you wanna come hang - www.twitch.tv/eggwickgg
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eggwick you are epic and i love your videos, i was bronze 3 and now i am about to lose plat, i am so greatful for my plat gun buddy that i will get, now that i hit that, i am going to stop worrying about rank so much like i use to, i am having so much fun losing and winning
Is it bad that im G1 and use a smurf acct in Bronze to purely practice my aim and strategies? Not to shit on noobs, but play purely for the sense of training my aim and the comp feeling instead of playing dm or unrated and running into plats n diamonds etc.
I loved being bad at Runescape back in the day, just doing random things and learning new things every day. Now it's all about efficiency
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I miss dying and losing my 30 gp bank to Goblins in Lumbridge.
The video honestly reminds me of my first days in Minecraft where everything was so new and exciting. I would literally spend hours just learning new things and it was the most fun I had. Same applied to Valorant. The better you got the less fun the game became and started becoming more a chore because of how good everyone became and how I had to keep up. If I manage to miss even 2 days of playing valorant I suddenly see myself bottom fragging for the next week or so on my Valorant games.
Minecraft just has a special place in my heart. Not because of its gameplay, mechanics, and definitely not for its graphics but rather because of nostalgia. I like going back to my world and reliving the memories that i made throughout the years. Though i wish i could go back to my very first world. It was in my mom's iphone 4. At the time the world was still like 256 by 256, the height limit was still 128 and at the time i thought that taller was better so i just made these tall structures made out of dirt
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Also, as ranked grinder myself (which I assume most of us are), I noticed that the higher you go, the more structured and "textbook-styled" way you have to play the game. Like, in plat/diamond elo, you have to do this or do that in a specific way whereas in lower elo, you have a lot more freedom and less pressure from the people around you
well i have a lot of time before i get to that iron 1 squad
@@choppings54 I'm like a bw 150 star and stopped playing... being good is not fun lmao. I started valorant like a month ago, still very trash
maybe the real Valorant were the friends and whiffs we made along the way
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actually true tho
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Yep I made 10 friends in valorant
Yea tru I agree
I love being in low ranks in valorant, its kinda easy and a lot of fun talking to teammates and trolling the enemies, but sometimes you will encounter plat-level bronzes that will completely destroy your team...
Agreed I had this boosted bronze and he tilted me hard
@@legitbad2777 not really boosted, but like hardstuck plat-level bronze, just smurfing but not smurfing
Tbh, I don't mind being iron that much. I don't play Valorant to be good, I play it for the human interaction I get in chat. I don't have many friends so it's a nice way for me to have conversations with interesting people when I have no one else to talk to.
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Same here and I'm thankful that my higher rank friends always support me to join their games so we could have fun together.
eggwick: why being bad is good
me being the worst player on the server
*I see this as an absolute win*
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Most of us don't know the feeling of being very good so we chase it
this this this so much this its so frustrating being bad at everything even though i spend so many of my waking hours for last few years grinding and looking up guides and desperately trying to improve
this video felt disgusting to watch
@@pieperson444 if you don’t even enjoy the process then you’re just hurting yourself, doing something to be good at it is very unhealthy especially with a game
Your mindset is very wrong
Being bad is fun. I can actually chill in a game and not play it for 6 months knowing that my skill will be the same
i’ve thought about the “enjoyment over statistics/results” mindset alot and while doing so i’ve always wondered if me looking back and thinking about how good the older days of gaming and whether or not my memories are clouded by nostalgia. am i thinking better of it than it really was (brain repressing the bad memories, etc) or if it truly was that enjoyable? for instance, valorant is still the same game it was a year ago at its core. yet, i feel like i had such a better time in the beta days and such? i know there’s been meta changes and new agents etc but still i hope my point is somehow being made here. idk. just an open letter, input is more than welcome
I understand where you are coming from. It could have been a mix of both. There have been a few times where I tried to redownload old games because I missed them, but I get reminded to why I quit in the first place (hackers, p2w, changed game mechanics, less friendly players, dying communities etc...) which were not things I had in mind when I redownloaded the game.
There isn't exactly a way to relive those past experiences where I had so much fun in these games because my mindset, skills, the game itself and the community have just changed.
I don't think that you necessarily remember the game better than it really was. Part of you missing the "old days" would be because you genuinely had fun in the games you played and enjoyed the experiences, whether because of friends or because of certain aspects of the game. I think another part would also be because humans tend to want what they don't have. From what you said, this may be applicable to you if you are not enjoying the game(s) that you're currently playing. You want to go back to the "good old days" where you could fool around, experiment, have fun with your friends instead of playing more seriously.
I share the same sentiment with you, and in order to not look back too much, I just try to enjoy and appreciate every moment I have in games. I think it's also important to make it clear to yourself whether you want to have fun in (certain) games or take them seriously and do well. Games change over time, but the human connection and lessons we learn in games stay with us.
Great comment, thank you for making me reflect on my gaming experiences
you are definitely seeing older days through rose colored glasses, but what's wrong about it? I think it is perfectly natural haha. I think you are enjoying it as much as you did back in the day, much like how I enjoy food as much today as I did a year ago.
I personally don't agree. The feeling of pulling of clutches, amazing spray transfers, the odd outplay with certain agent abilities at higher ranks, is always a great feeling. Having outplayed a player who in the previous round outplayed you is a great feeling.
I just recently had a game in Diamond 2 that we were down 10-2 first half, came back and won 15-13. Will never forget that game because of how we played in that 2nd half and the communication and plays we made as a team (all solos as well).
It must just be certain people, but my earliest memories aren't fond memories of games, because at the end of the day, you don't understand what is happening in the game to know that you are doing well or that you just pulled off an amazing play, you are just figuring out the game.
Games like campaign games are probably more suited to your train of thought, but for multiplayer, I personally don't agree.
I love the statistical improvement and knowing I've came far in s game from my beginnings, and playing a game at the highest level had always been the most fun for md
I'm not a psychological expert but I can definitely say that you are enjoying Valorant more than the player sitting in Radiant 1. If you get too good at something you would be doing the same things over and over again. Which is boring and causes a lot of strain.
So what the video means is however bad or good you are, you should stop caring about stats because the more you try to be the best, the more you realize how much you need to fight for that position, because at one point in the leaderboard(mostly the top 0.001% or what we call Diam/imm/rad) everyone has the same experience in the game, so your stats/plays/wins don't matter. This occurs in Radiant often but can occur sometimes in Imm/Diamond too
How would the game be 15 - 13 if its first to 13
I agree with you 100%. Glad someone said it.
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Last year I was completely new to FPS games playing Valorant. Never played CS before, never played COD, none of em. I was completely noob and got flamed by people a lot of times. I was Iron then.
Now I've only reached bronze and doesn't have any desire to climb higher. It's enough for me.
Same here today i ranked up to silver by simply playing 5 man lobby 😆( better than me ofc)
I still remain in iron don't want to play competotive anymore unless it's with friends
i've been bad in valorant for a while and before I was always complaining about that I hadnt ranked up in 6 months lol, but after I learned to just enjoy it after taking some long breaks, I started enjoying my matches more and realising that its much more fun when you just play, not focusing on your rank or anything, to just enjoy your match
eggwick is that one guy that lowkey makes unpopular topics a lot of sense
Couldn’t agree more. I have a lot of nostalgia for playing Pokémon, back when I was a kid, and not knowing anything and just playing the game has a lot of fond memories attached to it, and one reason why it was so memorable. Another recent example was Breath of the Wild, playing through that was amazing but eventually when you finish the game and feel like you know everything it’s just sad you won’t be able to replay the game like you did the first time, it just feels different
I can't agree that being bad is leads to have more fun than being good. I spent about 9 years playing league of legends and being really bad at it just to realise i wasted most of this time trying to improve, get really nervous just to realise that i don't have fun playing it for last 5 years. If i would achieve my goal i would just quit playing it earlier and try other games instead of trying to convince myself that there is reason to play league.
I couldn’t agree more, I never liked ranked, and one day I decided to try it. And it just wasn’t fun. I noticed my friends who did play ranked often weren’t enjoying themselves nearly as much as me and my other friends just messing around. Being bad is a blessing
Money doesn't buy happiness - rich people
Looking good doesn't get you happiness - actors
Being bad is good - eggwick
I think it's one of the reasons I start playing a new agent I'm not comfy with yet every 40 matches or so. It's just alot of fun to me figuring things out and learning new concepts and adding to those with my own ideas
Eggwick:Being bad at the game = good
Me :0/8/11
Teamates:trashtalk
Thanks for the advice I was always scared to play comp because I might lose my rank but now I will just play without caring if I win or lose.
I'm not sure a lot of people play competitive games at a high rank to remember their times playing it. The reason I personally want to be a higher rank is to prove to myself that I can reach my goals.
You can do it my man.. go for it. I have the same goals
Same
Started at Iron1 and am currently Gold1 and climbing. It's the process of seeing noticeable improvement over time which makes it fun. Great content as always
That thrill of discovery is pretty amazing at the beginning. My best example of this was playing BOTW for my first time. Exploring the vast open world was so awesome and cool that I couldn't stop playing. I played for a while, finished the game and went for a replay. But I discovered it was much less fun. I knew how to use every mechanic. I knew where to go and how to be efficient. There was no new discovery and problem solving. So yeah, enjoy being new :)
totally agree. the same happened to me with league where instead of having more fun with the game, i got pretty bored after being diamond+ for a few years. i became way better than i’d ever imagined when i started out but i starting taking winning more seriously for a while and ppl in ranked were just as toxic no matter how high i climbed. also as i got better at the game older concepts i learned felt more simple and the game just felt more formulaic to play. i don’t regret getting high elo but league definitely doesn’t hit the same anymore
The thing is, if your friends are good, you have to keep up with them to play with them.
I related to this so hard when I started playing after my friends pressured me to xD
My friends always want to play competitive and I feel stressed af, because I know I'm the lousiest in the team. I can't play risky game and have fun because they don't want me to. So it's kind of disappointing as well, just wanted to have fun with them but can't do so.
The wonderful feeling of improving is reflected in your willingness to put effort into learning. What you're talking about can go on until you quit learning. That is up to you especially since valorant is ever changing. The human mind is a powerhouse of near limitless potential.
This vid made me cry just thinking about the early days of all of the games I’ve played
This reminds me of overwatch, I originally placed bronze when the game first came out, and fell in love with the game, over 2 or 3 years I grinded up to T500, and when i finally hit it, I felt dead inside. Looking back I didn't enjoy the game at all from diamond up, I hated playing metas, stressing wins, and most of all not being able to goof of and have fun with my lower ranked friends. Over watch holds a special place in my heart, but I honestly think I could never play it again. (Competitively)
Wow. This punched a hole in my heart. I just started helping my friend in Gta online, he’s level 8 while im level 186.
And all i can think of is: “how do i level up quicker as a new player? Do i do some races or something?”
And to think about it, everyone grows, and in gta online, i grow richer and better. And i leave behind all the things that don’t earn me much money anymore.
This reminds me of my first ace ever. I was team mvp that game and actually ace 2 times :p . Fun tımes
Yep, aces nowadays feel bland. I enjoy the rounds when me and my friends win the round as a single unit. I enjoy getting carried even more lol.
Lol I aced my first round of valorant I ever played
i got my first one with a frenzy
being good at a game is both a blessing and a curse, I'm sometimes envious of my friends that play everything casually and can still have fun
Yeah i recently recall a memory like literally last night when i invited this guy to our 4 stack party and the couple games of it were complete laughter and jokes and seeing one of my friends whiff on their raze ult and clutch made us all laugh. That same ult also wished i died in game cause of something i said and guess who died first… THE RAZE oh i love them so much but i know it wont be the same when school is back
Say it loud! I'm BAD and I'm proud!!!
damn, this is kinda interesting to think about, but now that I look back on the games I used to grind, it just doesn't have the same spark that they used to. Overwatch, terraria, minecraft, all amazing and fun games but I'll never get to experience hitting my first tree or learning my first character ever again. Idk this video just made me think a lot, good job on it!
i completley agree, i used to play overwatch and for about a season i was in bronze and that was the hight of my fun, you can improve so fast which makes you feel acomplished whereas nearer the end of my overwatch days i was diamond where i wasn't improving at all, just grinding for sr.
Him: Being bad is a fun experience
Meanwhile me who has been bad at every game I have played: Unlimited fun!!!!
love u, sir Egg. I enjoyed this one
Sometimes it takes getting to your destination to realize the journey was the best part
I completely agree Eggman! Valorant has been my first fps and i was stuck in Iron for 4 acts. But i loved playing and doing things. Later i ranked up very fast to silver and stuck there for a while. But it was fun coz i had my friends and we gad all types of events - good and bad. Now I am in Gold and yes the game does feel fresh and i feel so much improvement and goodness ❤️. Thanks for the everyday suggestions. Love you ❤️
Man you gotta love eggwick thanking people for 97k subs instead of telling us road to 100k (:
I remember the good times when I just started playing Rocket League, I always played competitive with my brother. We took it very seriously even though we sucked xd. We were stuck in bronze/silver but it was so much fun
I believe a core part of the fun of games is the discovery aspect of it, and maybe that's the most appealing part about it. However I think it's what we do to keep it fresh that matters as well, it's not entirely the games job to provide you enjoyment. We can always mess around; especially with friends, when we hit a point of slow improvement. But the best part about these kinds of games is it's endless replay value.
But stuff like story games and all that are an experience built to enhance the discovery aspect, so it has little replay value unless you want to go back to relive poignant moments or just well designed aspects of the game.
Remember to always take your time, and don't rush to consume the game. Take your time with it, and well, you might just break through thousand of hours before you know it
you know what?
I completely agree with this guy.
I know this is valorant content, but I have a related game experience to bring up.
As most of you have probably already heard of the game genshin impact. When I first started playing the game, there were so many things to explore, and it was really fun messing around practically not knowing anything. Just like this guy said, he didn't care he was bad at runescape, but he had fun anyway.
Later on into the game, all I focused on was grinding and getting better at the game. Every day I would spend all my time just trying to grind. After a few weeks of grind, I was tired of it. It was so boring I wanted to abandon the game, which I did... But like this guy said learning new things in the game can be a really enjoyable time. There is no need to focus all on getting better at a game. Just enjoy your time there!
I agree with this video completely, before i hit immortal, i was plat and i often played with friends n it was super fun.Now valorant for me is just a matter of improvements rather then having fun.
I used to think being bad at a game like valorant is bad but after watching the video made e realize cherishing the moments when I made a bad play which gave me and y friends a good laugh instead of cold focus while hitting every shot yes I would be disappointed when I lose or throw but there was still room for fun improvements
I suck at Valorant, and seeing all my friends in Diamond and Immortal made me feel like I would never get any better compared to them. Still, over time I figured that everyone gets better at their own pace and to just have fun with the game instead of worrying about what your friends or people might say.
I love your vids! Your intro is so perfect!
Everytime I watch Iron only tournaments I just wish I could get back to iron because it seems a lot more relaxed and fun than the higher elo. However I am still improving and I probably won't drop valorant until I get Radiant
You are the first one to call my dumbass gameplay , good . I shall give you my life and be a slave for you EGGWICK MY LORD
to each their own personally i like being good at games i dont see the fun in sitting and watching other people play because you are constantly dead... i was a beast in BO2 back in the day and that is my favourite memories i have of gaming constantly quick scoping people and getting called a hacker etc i was also just a kid which made it feel even better
I don't know if I'm the only one but as I'm getting better, I'm able to read my opponents better, (talking about valorant), and when I die, I spectate a player and give him all the necessary info, and think what would i do here, and I get tilted because what I thought I would do, does not happen. I know it's in any competitive game, but it just doesn't feel right anymore, I think I've lost all my excitement about any FPS game in general, and I want it back. I built my PC 3 years back and I enjoyed learning so much, everything was new, now it's just dull.
I started playing runescape almost a year ago, and I can say without a doubt, efficiency or not if your new you would probably enjoy the story :)
yes when i first started playing valorant with my friends we had so much fun and we knew we were bad so when we did something stupid we all just laughed. now weve gotten so much better and whenever someone does a stupid play we just yell at each other. :(
thanks for the inspiration i was allways raging but now its just fun
To be able to unlearn things is a superpower and is basically impossible
I know everyone says this, but the early days of fortnite with my friends were so fun because we would do anything just to get a win like bushcamp, skybase, rocket ride, etc. Not sweating and just messing around is the best part of games
Agreed, the only problem I find is the 2 randoms I get as teammates in this last 15 comp matches have been extremely awful, is fun to improve, but there is no fun in having to carry a team with your friend(s).
eggwick is the definition of reality .
This video made me depressed, because it made me remember all the good times i had in cs 1.6 and csgo.
I used to be a hypixel sweat (lol) and it got boring cuz I got good at it and all of the things that noobs thought were really amazing wasn’t all that impressive and it was much more fun when I was really impressed with myself for doing something that made me look good which is why I switched over to valo currently b2 and enjoying the game
I really feel this ngl, I played overwatch for 3 years and was improving over that time and reached Masters rank by the time I was quitting the game. Now in Valorant I just can't get the same feeling since I had already developed my aim and game sense in like the first week of playing because of my experience in competing in overwatch.
Mans has the most soothing voice I’ve ever heard
Learning R6 Siege was possibly the most fun I had playing the game, then when I learned everything it got frustrating.
This is the exact same with me learning Valorant
This is the gaming equivalent of a teacher telling his students to enjoy primary school before they go to the shit show that is highschool and university
@Ethan TSO wait to your teacher or to eggwick lmao
As someone who hit master in league and is hardstuck bronze in valorant, this is 110% true. Being high elo in league was the goal but was soon as I got there the game was no longer fun. Every win was a relief and a loss was agonizing. Queuing up and going 8/14 on Breeze(fuck that map) with the boys is fun af because I don’t care nearly as much about winning or losing
Watching eggwick became a daily routine to me
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL BECAUSE EGGWICK DOES HEART TO HEART TALK WITH US :)
I remember playing runescape when I was like, 7. All I did was build fires for people to cook their lobsters and swordfish, on that one island. I don't even remember what it's called anymore...but it was the most fun thing in the world to me. XD
That Video reminds me of the old days when Ark PvE was still a real survival experience - I think that was the most fun time I ever had in a Game... sadly this time is long gone and since ark PvP is way too stressy, time intensitive and sweatty I haven't touched the game in a long time.
Only this guy makes videos like this thats why i sub
I couldn’t agree more. For me the game was most fun early on when I was still in plat. Now that I have hit immortal I’m not really sure where to go from here and miss being able to just play for fun.
in my experience being bad at the game whilst being solo que is a very different feeling to being bad at the game whilst in duo que
I've generally been playing more unranked than competitive and the game does become simply more fun. There's nothing to stress about if you lose and you can do anything funny with most people not complaining.
In osu! It's just so fun to go play maps that are way beyond my level. And after improving a little, i come back to those maps and i hit some things that i never thought i would and repeat, as soon as you get really good. You would think back on the times you were bad, my fondest memories when i played 1.6 and just messed around pool_day and talk to people
Opinion vid aside. Astra is SO GOOD in icebox and im glad you used her there. People really sleeping on her
I couldnt agree more with this video
I’ve been iron 1 my whole time playing but it doesn’t stop me playing coming back and attempting to get better
The journey is what we remember not the goal.
or something
I had so much fun in the first days of valorant but now its kinda getting old like ive done everything i could have... and yet im still hardstuck bronze 1
Hey, a fellas!
Keep up the great vids man!
so close to 100k
hope you achieve it soon.
The thing about being bad at a certain game is your teammates and such. I play Valorant a lot and I come across a lot of toxic players that demotivates me from playing the game. There will always be a toxic minority in every game, but being bad at a game sometimes demotivates you from doing better. But after you mute those teammates and move forwards from the toxicity, you have start enjoying the game and get better at it!
For me I am still very new to Valorant and was introduced to it by my friends. So my natural first goal was to get to be as good as them. While a lot of the time I still bottom frag I have gotten to the point where I am actually an asset to the team rather then a burden. With this goal in mind there has always been a reason for me to play. However if I ever end up reaching it or even surpassing it I do think a lot of the fun will be taken out of the game. One of my friends is SUPER into FPS games and is by far the best in our group. (We only play unrated btw no smurfing :) Since I am so far below his skill level I don't really mind playing with him as he can teach me. However my other friends that are closer in skill level to him but still not as good never want to play with him because they say that they don't like getting carried cause it makes them feel bad about their skill basically. So if I ever get to that skill level I wouldn't want that to happen as for me playing with my friends and having fun is WHY I PLAY Valorant. Anyway just my two cents on the matter. (Also since I don't play ranked I don't really know how good I am but I'd probably say I would be high iron-low bronze idk. Only been playing for like 3 weeks.)
I don't even have fun when playing Valorant anymore. I tend to hop onto CS:GO retakes servers, where everyone is just vibing and fragging
This is why I only play unrated
Its so much fun playing casually and trying new things
Edit: Same thing for tf2 I loved being inexperienced and trying dumb things and learning for players
It's the journey that counts
He kinda spittin. My most memorable times playing osu was when i was 6/7 digit and could barely pass a high 4 star. Now i just get mad because im stuck 60k rank and everytime i rank up, i lose 1k rank within a week. So now it just an endless cycle of me grinding back to my origional rank before i deteriate to much. Gotten to the point were i dont really care that much and havnt been playing less often.
Personally I think being bad can be fun, but being good is also fun just in a different way
Basically, just enjoy playing the game. There is no need to take things too seriously because it's just a game at the end of the day. :DD
"It's just a game. Why you gotta be so mad?"
I read the title and Immediately liked it
Yep that feels about right only time i feel some emotion is being in a 1 vs x , almost getting an ace or playin with a friend good game for beginners but gets somewhat borin when u reach into a higher rank
It's like that famous quote;
"It's about the journey, not the destination."
I remember thinking that I'd be really happy hitting Gold, but the best times were when I was just goofing around with friends.
Good content as always. 🤌💯
it felt so good when my gold friends let me play with them when i started. i was bad in a lobby with better players and it helped me learn. now they're plat-diamond and im gold
I really miss the beta and the beggining of the game, those were the gold times
This is a wreck it Ralph moment😂
Everyone should remember that the grass is always greener on the other side.
Jokes over, I'm always bad. I think different games have different ways of having fun. For Valorant I have met and played with really chill players, I'm an iron player, and just had fun talking to them. For leveling games like Runescape and Maple story, it was to grind and level up so you can have the ability to explore new places or unlock new skills. Having friends made it even more fun. There was another PVP game where I played the private server, which allowed you to use existing maps to create new custom maps (by adding blocks and teleport portals), and people would just create these custom map rooms and strangers would join to see what their creations are about.
My RUclips recommendation after this:
"Why Iron is better" - Shakes
If being bad is good, I’m the tenz of being good