he's a vegan, and he had really strict eating habits before like not wanting to eat from pots and pans meat was cooked in previously. he's probably really limited to what he can eat with that and prison food being bad as it is for all diets.
He doesn’t want to misremember things because then he’ll be a liar and the defense can make him out to be unreliable. It’s better to just say you don’t remember, unless you’re 100% certain. It has been three years and he’s probably been involved in hundreds of cases since then
What people need to remember with Bryan K is he knows the law probably better than the officers and I do believe he is the lone killer from that night. I've been following since that first news on it and I've gone back and forth on innocent or guilty but deep inside I believe he did it for his own gratitude and to know the real feel of taking a life. I feel he could be driven by OCD and I believe he was obsessed by crime and he wanted to know everything about it. People say 1 person couldn't do what was done and those people just really have no idea. A year ago in Rockford a crazed guy stabbed 4 different people in 3 different houses in 25 minutes it is very possible if the killer is focused. I do believe the police have fabricated evidence to secure a arrest but that's because I don't think Bryan left any real evidence for them.
@Historyxx510 I’ve been messing with the theory that he deliberately left the sheath in order to sort of place himself there just to have it thrown out for lack of other evidence. Literally driven by the ego that yes he is smarter than them and yes he can get away with murder.
States evidence should be argued during the trial. If suppressing incriminating evidence for the sole purpose of it not reaching potential jurors ears, then it would seem to be pointless if they are watching these proceedings take place.
Trying to diminish law enforcements efforts, in an attempt to exonerate Kolhberger is reaching. I thought he was out looking at the “moon and stars” the morning of the murders. I guess that defense didn’t stick. Justice for the victims and the families!
@@ttabor100 from what came out Thursday or Friday the defense has admitted he was in Moscow around the time of the murders, they positively identified his car .22 miles from the crime house. So at the very least they know he’s lying.
@@brblue44 incorrect, they identified a car on ridge road, but it is not known to be his. also it was discovered that the fbi broke some rules / laws possibly. this is about getting a franks hearing, not about his alibi.
This is about making sure that LE follows the law and doesn’t collect DNA illegally. The defense isn’t denying it’s his touch DNA, they want to know how it got there and they are questioning how the partial touch dna sample collected at the scene didn’t result to anyone but when sent to FbI, the dna sample doubled in size and was illegally built using his dna that was on genealogy website online. It’s prob hard for you to understand at this point, but the FBI doesn’t want to show their work on how they got to him. Which is concerning, bc that is a right he has to know all evidence against him. The DNA could all be a lie because LE also found 3 other male DNA samples from bodily fluid at the scene that they didn’t even test. So if they didn’t test those that were blood, why would they test touch DNA. Touch DNA doesn’t put someone at the scene it just means it has been transferred. Hope this helps you to understand better
@@ashadecastro276 Could it be that they are doing their lawyer job. If you just want to go straight to trial without knowing a thing just represent yourself. How well do you think that will go. But the lawyer can't do that or they could be disbarred. You know nothing about the justice system. Yours isn't one of the most idiotic statements I've read today. But the night is young.
Why does the system allow Kohberger, to manipulate them, all this money spent for a man who horribly killed 4 beautiful children, now acts as if society owes him. Poor families of those children are in ultimate pain every second of their lives, and murderer is putting more and more salt in their wounds
Sorry you feel that way but in this country you are innocent until proven guilty. They have not done that in any way yet. Touch DNA is not regular dna. Take it you are following everything?
@@tansywelsh1636 The trial hasn't started. They are under a gag order and these hearings are televised. They have to be careful with what they say. We are going to be shocked when the trial gets underway finding out what the detectives/investigators found.
Please share with us how he is guilty and don't say DNA. Especially when there is STILL 3 males DNA not yet identified including a bl00dy hand print and a glove. Waiting for your insight..
How come there isn’t drone footage or any body cams of his interviews or arrest is what you should ask yourself!. Everything is on body cams unless of course you choose to not use one or turn it on in which case the question is why. Sus!! And Payne is an idiot!
Hindsight can be quite amusing. It's often the amateur detectives who try to rationalize everything with outlandish theories based on their knowledge from hindsight, conveniently overlooking the absurdity of their claims. The reality is that the roommates lack substantial knowledge, and Dylan's recollections are certainly dubious given her mental condition at that moment-she was still under the influence and reeling from the shock of encountering an intruder. That said, it's incredibly disrespectful for these online sleuths to suggest her involvement in the murders based solely on these circumstances, especially when the evidence, both tangible and circumstantial, continues to implicate Kohlberger.
@@jimsty7550 Did they draw toxicology labs on her? Breathalyzer? If not, intoxication is just another unverified part of the story. Maybe she claimed that to avoid answering questions that would implicate her.
If they planted the evidence, how did they transfer Kohberger's DNA on the sheath without getting their own DNA on the sheath, and how did they know who he was?
@mercykat Payne planted the knife sheath. If not the officers who arrived earlier would have clearly seen it. Payne stated he could see it from the doorway.
Headline should read: WHY NO IGG DONE ON THE 3 OTHER MALE DNA PROFILES FOUND IN BLOOD AT KING RD MURDERS. Justice for these victims and the defendant. Recommend J Embree for the actual background in the case.
People there should be outraged. We first heard of the other unknown male DNA profiles maybe a year ago, now we know those 3 weren’t mere partial DNA they were left there in blood on a railing near the victims and on the glove. Were they checked against the DNA of the “confidential informant” and his or her associates? If anyone doesn’t know, at least three of the parents of the victims took plea deals against *rug *raffickers a few months before this event. Also look at the court records of those *raffickers, felonies dismissed over and over for years. Look at who the prosecutor was and guess who their defending atty was- apparently same lady who was the coroner at the King Rd atrocity.
💯 !!!! that blood DNA of 3 unknown males on the crime scene, contradicting statements of the roommates, the fact that prosecution can’t answer questions and doesn’t have the required investigation documents amongst other things should really OUTRAGE the people!!!
Right. He said clearly that he and another officer were at one of the police stations or were in a location waiting for the call that Kohberger had been arrested. When Kohberger was brought to the station, those two officers were the ones who sat down with him and talked for 5-15 minutes according to Kohberger's extradition attorney in PA.
@@iamarianna8972 I think he and the other LE stopped working on this case back in Dec. of 2022 when they handed the case file over to the Prosecutor's office. Since then he has made many arrests, traffic stops and doing other cop duties and seen many people and criminals that is it totally reasonable that he may not remember. His bread and butter does not sit with Kohberger, he has to go out and arrest many other people and sit on many other criminal court cases.
I dont understand why this hearing is even alowed. If the have an arrst warrent its up to LE to determine how they administer it. Its not the defenses right to question how they did it.
Scheduled for August 2025 I believe but defense still hasn’t been able to get a lot of the evidence. There were 3 other male DNA profiles left in blood at the scene the investigators/prosecutor never investigated. Prosecutor claims a partial DNA on a knife sheath was Kohberger but they haven’t provided the data to back it up. Meanwhile we just learned the other 3 DNA profiles were actual blood left at the scene so those should have been complete DNA profiles. Hopefully the defense will get those and run IGG on them because the prosecution says they just didn’t do anything with those allegedly . Other evidence in the case has gone missing like hours of security camera footage along one road from the hours pertaining to the crime. Recommend J Embree on RUclips for much more
I’m sorry to offend anyone in Idaho by saying this. Idk if this guy is involved, he could be, but i also think those 2 roommates know exactly what happened in that home, and they need to come forward, be honest and tell the real story! After hearing these open hearings, IDK why those 2 are NOT in jail!!! There is more to this!! IMO
No offense but that is absolutely craziness. To think that those 2 innocent girls were involved without having ever heard a single word directly from either of them. Everyone SWORE that Jamie Kloss was involved in killing her parents too, they were SO SURE of it. And look how that ended.....
Craziness is thinking Dylan Mortensen who was surrounded by 4 brutal murders, lost 3 of her senses. Sight, smell, and hearing. There are plenty of cases where much younger people have been capable of despicable acts and conspiratorial behavior. 8 hrs? 4 bodies? That house would have been pungent an hour after the crime. Do you realize both bathrooms on the 2nd and 3rd floor were both next to the bodies? Show me a woman that goes out drinking, is awakened or startled, and doesn't have to pee for 8 hrs. If she was interrogated properly, I don't think she would be free. There are statements from former tenants of that property that the walls and floors were very thin..."You can hear talking and footsteps on every floor". Why do you think they tore down the crime scene? Because any jury member going into that house would fixate on the fact it's an echo chamber. There is no way she didn't know what was going on. #1 Person of interest in this case.
@@bdmcn1018 I actually have spent a whole career in this type of situation, and that is as far as I can go. I have to say no I am not crazy, and I have the right to my opinion, just like you. I also call it by the FACTS! Now go listen again, she WAS texting during four brutal murders! Think about that!! Also, thank you for your opinion, open discussion is always appreciated!
@@gmolinari2513 also, all these points are absolutely correct! I can assure you with a crime scene, 8 hours later, many things had changed. Also, you hit every point, and question I would say any reasonable person would absolutely consider!! I know I am not alone in my thought process on this one!
It seems to me, they first obtained the name of Bryan and then worked backwards to create DNA ‘analysis’. Innocent until proven guilty. So far none of the evidence says he is. The judge is fair and will grant the franks motion. They have done so many mistakes in trying to charge him…
most trials take 2-3 years to even begin. A case like this goes through everything with a fine tooth comb, plus Kohberger as a criminal justice student is using his tactics to try to get things delayed and/or dismissed by every letter of the law
This is a capital case which always take longer. It’s also x4 murder. This isn’t long at all and is pretty standard timeframe really. But I understand it feels forever.
Law enforcement were desperate as they botched investigation so badly so they found a scapegoat. If they were so sure he was their man would you not get him off the streets bring him in for proper swab DNA testing? They pulled his car to literal pieces and found nothing. What about the 3 other male DNA that STILL has not been identified???
Is anyone talking about how sickly the Defendant looks now? Jail conditions must be worse in Boise.
That's what he wanted. To move the trial to another county.
Karma
@@kcwestern I think he knows there’s no way out now, they are gonna smother him with evidence.
@@dar7230that is why Prosecutor is losing weight.
Bryan looks emaciated
He not eating cause he knows he toast
Jail food probably is bad.
@@Pllm30He wanted this. He wanted to move the trial to another county. No television, no good food, etc..
he's a vegan, and he had really strict eating habits before like not wanting to eat from pots and pans meat was cooked in previously. he's probably really limited to what he can eat with that and prison food being bad as it is for all diets.
@kit.e6864 Good point.
How in the world did Payne ever become a police officer? Evidently, a good memory is NOT a requirement 😂
He doesn’t want to misremember things because then he’ll be a liar and the defense can make him out to be unreliable. It’s better to just say you don’t remember, unless you’re 100% certain. It has been three years and he’s probably been involved in hundreds of cases since then
You don't need to have a good memory if you were telling the truth. The biggest case he has ever worked on but he can't remember.
What people need to remember with Bryan K is he knows the law probably better than the officers and I do believe he is the lone killer from that night. I've been following since that first news on it and I've gone back and forth on innocent or guilty but deep inside I believe he did it for his own gratitude and to know the real feel of taking a life. I feel he could be driven by
OCD and I believe he was obsessed by crime and he wanted to know everything about it. People say 1 person couldn't do what was done and those people just really have no idea. A year ago in Rockford a crazed guy stabbed 4 different people in 3 different houses in 25 minutes it is very possible if the killer is focused. I do believe the police have fabricated evidence to secure a arrest but that's because I don't think Bryan left any real evidence for them.
@Historyxx510 I’ve been messing with the theory that he deliberately left the sheath in order to sort of place himself there just to have it thrown out for lack of other evidence. Literally driven by the ego that yes he is smarter than them and yes he can get away with murder.
@@iamarianna8972It's over 3 years ago. He remembers, but none of us would remember verbatim what he said or what happened 3 years ago.
States evidence should be argued during the trial. If suppressing incriminating evidence for the sole purpose of it not reaching potential jurors ears, then it would seem to be pointless if they are watching these proceedings take place.
You WRONG!
I like this judge
Trying to diminish law enforcements efforts, in an attempt to exonerate Kolhberger is reaching. I thought he was out looking at the “moon and stars” the morning of the murders. I guess that defense didn’t stick. Justice for the victims and the families!
@@ttabor100 from what came out Thursday or Friday the defense has admitted he was in Moscow around the time of the murders, they positively identified his car .22 miles from the crime house. So at the very least they know he’s lying.
@@brblue44 incorrect, they identified a car on ridge road, but it is not known to be his. also it was discovered that the fbi broke some rules / laws possibly. this is about getting a franks hearing, not about his alibi.
Too many people in this case have memory problems. Just saying.
It seems all of them - roommates, officers. That’s puzzling…
Lol.I think they should be more interested in proving BK case than how and when he got arrested.
This is not the trial. This is a motions hearing and they are trying to argue for a Frank's hearing...
An innocent person doesn't need to suppress evidence. They would say bring it on.
A guilty person wouldn't want the IGG unsealed and public.
This is about making sure that LE follows the law and doesn’t collect DNA illegally. The defense isn’t denying it’s his touch DNA, they want to know how it got there and they are questioning how the partial touch dna sample collected at the scene didn’t result to anyone but when sent to FbI, the dna sample doubled in size and was illegally built using his dna that was on genealogy website online. It’s prob hard for you to understand at this point, but the FBI doesn’t want to show their work on how they got to him. Which is concerning, bc that is a right he has to know all evidence against him. The DNA could all be a lie because LE also found 3 other male DNA samples from bodily fluid at the scene that they didn’t even test. So if they didn’t test those that were blood, why would they test touch DNA. Touch DNA doesn’t put someone at the scene it just means it has been transferred. Hope this helps you to understand better
@@BNM8342 maybe the blood was too old to be tested
@ no! It was a bloody hand print and blood inside a glove. Blood samples can be swabbed even if they are dry
Amazing job describing this. @@BNM8342
Yo if he was innocent they would just take it to trial and prove it. He’s GUILTY! And that’s why they are doing all of this
Dmb
Defendant do NOT have to prove their innocence. The evidence will Prove he is GUILTY.
@@ashadecastro276 Could it be that they are doing their lawyer job. If you just want to go straight to trial without knowing a thing just represent yourself. How well do you think that will go. But the lawyer can't do that or they could be disbarred. You know nothing about the justice system. Yours isn't one of the most idiotic statements I've read today. But the night is young.
@void________ he wins for the night.
@@Karma4All- Who won what?
Why does the system allow Kohberger, to manipulate them, all this money spent for a man who horribly killed 4 beautiful children, now acts as if society owes him. Poor families of those children are in ultimate pain every second of their lives, and murderer is putting more and more salt in their wounds
Sorry you feel that way but in this country you are innocent until proven guilty. They have not done that in any way yet. Touch DNA is not regular dna. Take it you are following everything?
@@tansywelsh1636 The trial hasn't started. They are under a gag order and these hearings are televised. They have to be careful with what they say. We are going to be shocked when the trial gets underway finding out what the detectives/investigators found.
How is he acting as though society owes him ? We haven't heard anything from him..
You must mean why does the American public not SHUN the lie's in that PCA 😡
The guy butchered 4 kids and the defense is questioning the drone feed and the type of vehicle the swat team arrived in? Please
That's like me saying you beat your wife...and not asking what led up to it.
Kohberger 'butchered' no one.
Please share with us how he is guilty and don't say DNA. Especially when there is STILL 3 males DNA not yet identified including a bl00dy hand print and a glove. Waiting for your insight..
How come there isn’t drone footage or any body cams of his interviews or arrest is what you should ask yourself!. Everything is on body cams unless of course you choose to not use one or turn it on in which case the question is why. Sus!! And Payne is an idiot!
@@iamarianna8972The three DNA have been identified.
Hindsight can be quite amusing. It's often the amateur detectives who try to rationalize everything with outlandish theories based on their knowledge from hindsight, conveniently overlooking the absurdity of their claims. The reality is that the roommates lack substantial knowledge, and Dylan's recollections are certainly dubious given her mental condition at that moment-she was still under the influence and reeling from the shock of encountering an intruder.
That said, it's incredibly disrespectful for these online sleuths to suggest her involvement in the murders based solely on these circumstances, especially when the evidence, both tangible and circumstantial, continues to implicate Kohlberger.
@@jimsty7550 Did they draw toxicology labs on her? Breathalyzer? If not, intoxication is just another unverified part of the story. Maybe she claimed that to avoid answering questions that would implicate her.
@sam-wd9ly you have your opinions, I have mine.
OmG the mockingbird media wants blood, anyone's. 😢
Cops who lie won't think twice about planting evidence either. The question is, who isn't corrupt in Idaho?
If they planted the evidence, how did they transfer Kohberger's DNA on the sheath without getting their own DNA on the sheath, and how did they know who he was?
That sounds like you're saying EVERYONE in Idaho. Come on...
The kosher tribal members in PA. are plenty korrupt. How about them " stolen" gold pieces from 1933 kase in point.
@mercykat Payne planted the knife sheath. If not the officers who arrived earlier would have clearly seen it. Payne stated he could see it from the doorway.
Headline should read: WHY NO IGG DONE ON THE 3 OTHER MALE DNA PROFILES FOUND IN BLOOD AT KING RD MURDERS. Justice for these victims and the defendant. Recommend J Embree for the actual background in the case.
People there should be outraged. We first heard of the other unknown male DNA profiles maybe a year ago, now we know those 3 weren’t mere partial DNA they were left there in blood on a railing near the victims and on the glove. Were they checked against the DNA of the “confidential informant” and his or her associates? If anyone doesn’t know, at least three of the parents of the victims took plea deals against *rug *raffickers a few months before this event. Also look at the court records of those *raffickers, felonies dismissed over and over for years. Look at who the prosecutor was and guess who their defending atty was- apparently same lady who was the coroner at the King Rd atrocity.
💯 !!!! that blood DNA of 3 unknown males on the crime scene, contradicting statements of the roommates, the fact that prosecution can’t answer questions and doesn’t have the required investigation documents amongst other things should really OUTRAGE the people!!!
So he wasn't there for the arrest and never even saw the house.
Out of his jurisdiction anyway.
He said he was never at the house.
Did he remember something from the case then? Don't need a good memory if you don't tell lies. Hard to keep stories straight then right Detective?
Right. He said clearly that he and another officer were at one of the police stations or were in a location waiting for the call that Kohberger had been arrested. When Kohberger was brought to the station, those two officers were the ones who sat down with him and talked for 5-15 minutes according to Kohberger's extradition attorney in PA.
@@iamarianna8972 I think he and the other LE stopped working on this case back in Dec. of 2022 when they handed the case file over to the Prosecutor's office. Since then he has made many arrests, traffic stops and doing other cop duties and seen many people and criminals that is it totally reasonable that he may not remember. His bread and butter does not sit with Kohberger, he has to go out and arrest many other people and sit on many other criminal court cases.
I dont understand why this hearing is even alowed. If the have an arrst warrent its up to LE to determine how they administer it. Its not the defenses right to question how they did it.
Every step of a warrant must be done according to law, warrants must be obtained. So, no LE can’t do just whatever they want.
Is this finally going to trial
Scheduled for August 2025 I believe but defense still hasn’t been able to get a lot of the evidence. There were 3 other male DNA profiles left in blood at the scene the investigators/prosecutor never investigated. Prosecutor claims a partial DNA on a knife sheath was Kohberger but they haven’t provided the data to back it up. Meanwhile we just learned the other 3 DNA profiles were actual blood left at the scene so those should have been complete DNA profiles. Hopefully the defense will get those and run IGG on them because the prosecution says they just didn’t do anything with those allegedly . Other evidence in the case has gone missing like hours of security camera footage along one road from the hours pertaining to the crime. Recommend J Embree on RUclips for much more
I’m sorry to offend anyone in Idaho by saying this. Idk if this guy is involved, he could be, but i also think those 2 roommates know exactly what happened in that home, and they need to come forward, be honest and tell the real story! After hearing these open hearings, IDK why those 2 are NOT in jail!!! There is more to this!! IMO
No offense but that is absolutely craziness. To think that those 2 innocent girls were involved without having ever heard a single word directly from either of them.
Everyone SWORE that Jamie Kloss was involved in killing her parents too, they were SO SURE of it. And look how that ended.....
Craziness is thinking Dylan Mortensen who was surrounded by 4 brutal murders, lost 3 of her senses. Sight, smell, and hearing. There are plenty of cases where much younger people have been capable of despicable acts and conspiratorial behavior. 8 hrs? 4 bodies? That house would have been pungent an hour after the crime. Do you realize both bathrooms on the 2nd and 3rd floor were both next to the bodies? Show me a woman that goes out drinking, is awakened or startled, and doesn't have to pee for 8 hrs. If she was interrogated properly, I don't think she would be free. There are statements from former tenants of that property that the walls and floors were very thin..."You can hear talking and footsteps on every floor". Why do you think they tore down the crime scene? Because any jury member going into that house would fixate on the fact it's an echo chamber. There is no way she didn't know what was going on. #1 Person of interest in this case.
@@bdmcn1018 I actually have spent a whole career in this type of situation, and that is as far as I can go. I have to say no I am not crazy, and I have the right to my opinion, just like you. I also call it by the FACTS! Now go listen again, she WAS texting during four brutal murders! Think about that!! Also, thank you for your opinion, open discussion is always appreciated!
@@gmolinari2513 also, all these points are absolutely correct! I can assure you with a crime scene, 8 hours later, many things had changed. Also, you hit every point, and question I would say any reasonable person would absolutely consider!! I know I am not alone in my thought process on this one!
for me they have the wrong man, even more i am watching some youtubers describing everything, 1 man alone kill for so surreal
Who cares how raid went !
@kevintagliatela3162 everyone cares, especially when someone is being railroaded by Moscow Idaho PD.
bro how a guy who is 70 kg kill 4 ppl ? 😂
It seems to me, they first obtained the name of Bryan and then worked backwards to create DNA ‘analysis’. Innocent until proven guilty. So far none of the evidence says he is. The judge is fair and will grant the franks motion. They have done so many mistakes in trying to charge him…
I'm beginning to think this oh boy might walk it's going on 3 years and no conviction yet not good 😮.
Exactly. Law enforcement botched this. Think some of them need to be behind bars.
most trials take 2-3 years to even begin. A case like this goes through everything with a fine tooth comb, plus Kohberger as a criminal justice student is using his tactics to try to get things delayed and/or dismissed by every letter of the law
This is a capital case which always take longer. It’s also x4 murder. This isn’t long at all and is pretty standard timeframe really. But I understand it feels forever.
He’s not his guy… he’s not the one
You have the wrong guy....!!
You def sound like an expert. Read the reports, look at the evidence…Are you stupid??}
It was O.J. Simpson!
@@lindahopsing…. Wrong guy in Indiana too…!
@lindahopsing what evidence are you referring to?
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boring
Kohberger and the CEO assassin, Pennsylvania
Why did he do this?
He didn't.
Law enforcement were desperate as they botched investigation so badly so they found a scapegoat. If they were so sure he was their man would you not get him off the streets bring him in for proper swab DNA testing? They pulled his car to literal pieces and found nothing. What about the 3 other male DNA that STILL has not been identified???
Why did Bundy do it ? Why did Chris Watts do it ? Why did BTK do it ?
Why do people ask why people murder other people ? They just do. Evil exists.
@@Stroopwaffe1but he did 🤷♀️
@@cindylieuhoo based on what?
Bearcat lol
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