Apologies, everyone. The previous-gen AH30 Vellfire/Alphard 2.5 also had a CVT, not a 6-speed auto. Only the pre-facelift 3.5 V6 had a 6AT. My thoughts on the CVT in this video remains true, however. Not the best combo at all.
Also Hafriz i agree, i love vehicles with physical volume and aircond knobs just like the land rovers . Its absolutely bonkers when folks replace theirs with the modern day touch screen and remove all those physical buttons which takes more $ to engineer !
@@ShawalAli-t8d in most other markets, they do, but with eCVT tranny and Hybrid A25A FXS powertrain. The planetary gears in eCVT is way superior to the old CVT tranny
@@ShawalAli-t8d my Lexus NX250 (on TNGA-K platform) have that configuration. It’s fantastic setup IMHO for user experience and for those that don’t like CVT/eCVT. And yes, Aisin 8 speed torque converter tranny is way more expensive cost wise to Toyota/Lexus
@@ShawalAli-t8d it does fit in a TNGA-K platform. My NX250 has that 8 speed torque converter tranny on it. It is certainly a lot more expensive than the eCVT tranny and a lot more fun to drive
Forget these 2. Just buy the Zeekr 009. Rides like a magic carpet. The build quality is also so much better. Very luxurious feel inside the cabin. Most importantly, the design of the Zeekr 009 doesn't make me feel like a limousine driver.😂
whether he is just a driver or an owner, the arrogant attitude is always present in the driver. always be polite when driving. A luxury car needs good manners, then it looks like a real luxury. if the wife is hot-tempered, open the window and scold people, don't let her drive your luxury car. downgrade your luxury car.
@ Toyota do release the chassis photo of these car and it's had 0 similarities with tnga K of Camry 😂 too bad RUclips comment section cannot attached photo
@ people could no longer believe whatever Toyota say. Most of their so call double wishbone rear suspension were multilink. No a single wishbone let alone double 😂😂😂
@@mahchunteng9434 TNGA-K is a modular and Scalable platform used in Camry, RAV4, NX, RX, Klugger/Highlander, Crown (multi variants), LM, Alphard, Vellfire
Old 2.5 uses CVT, i owned one and it does the same thing too mimicking a regular AT when going full throttle. To me the power is sufficient enough as a family car
Old one uses 2.5 2ARFE engine. New one uses 2.5 A25A Dynamic Force engine. Way better low torque and lower fuel consumption. But too bad that UMW didn’t bring in the Hybrid
@@kiatfoongchong2606 in Oz, most Toyota/Lexus hybrids from 2010 are still alive and well till today. Many in US reported battery failures after 20 years/300,000 miles or around 500,000kms
Actually, Toyota/Lexus Nulux synthetic leather is very comfy and more durable than real leather. In Oz, I had a Lexus CT200h and the driver seat leather started to show wear signs after around 3 years. My current NX250 with Nulux still looks brand new after close to 32 months
How is it so that Toyota had to buy Engines and Gearbox from BMW to fund the Supra project ( because they were afraid they wont get their ROI back if they were to make their own ) and yet they can engineer a totally separate Gearbox and Engine for Alphards & vellfires JUST for the malaysian market alone ? Mind blowing stuff...
A bit confused, you guys had both so why not review the Alphard as well? Unless those Alphard footage was filmed separately.
Blame UMW? Maybe Alphard is their customer car.
they reviewed Alphard in another video
Window is wide enough for politicians to wave at their rakyat and take photos - didn't see that one coming 😂😂😂
Apologies, everyone. The previous-gen AH30 Vellfire/Alphard 2.5 also had a CVT, not a 6-speed auto. Only the pre-facelift 3.5 V6 had a 6AT.
My thoughts on the CVT in this video remains true, however. Not the best combo at all.
time to invest in some better in car cameras and mics, as per usual, top notch video
The question for me is not "which should" but "when can"
Watching this, its definitely obvious on how much more you get with the LM
@@97Syahmie the LM350h AWD drive away price is ~AUD178k
The Zeekr 009 looks more plush and priced cheaper too. Looking forward for a comparison video between the 2 mpv
less reliable and less prestigious as well.
@agprd41 yes, the alphard and vellfire is less prestigious.
@@keat-wong True. Toyota and the word 'Prestige' does not relate much to each other.
No business person or politician would wanna be seen in an el-cheapo Chinese vehicle
@@keat-wong no resale value
Only in asia ppl still loves minivans…in other region, it has been replaced by more stylish SUV
More stylish but a lot less usable or practical. If you want a luxury barge, there's no point going SUV as they're compromised in every way.
Yeah. In Oz, most would get a 3 row large SUV instead. Toyota Klugger, Mazda CX90, CX80, Palisade etc
Also Hafriz i agree, i love vehicles with physical volume and aircond knobs just like the land rovers . Its absolutely bonkers when folks replace theirs with the modern day touch screen and remove all those physical buttons which takes more $ to engineer !
@@TP4MBH69 you’ll get used to it
Which one more suitable for PPR resident?
Recond versions. Reconds are more cheaper.
@@vengadeshkannavathy7225 comes with cone to cop parking
the previous Vellfire or Alphard 2.5 use CVT as well, only the 3.5L V6 use 6EAT for pre facelift versiOn, the new facelift use 8EAT for the 3.5 V6
You're absolutely right, my apologies on this error. My thoughts on the CVT in this video remains true, however.
It's not that expensive.. it's just.. we didn't have the 💰.. 😂😂
Lexus LM350h in Australia selling for about the same price as the Alphard in Malaysia 😂
very honest reviews
but the vellfire looks better on the outside
Need a proper shootout
1) official
2) recond
3) last gen
4) kia carnival
5) XC90
where is your mandarin division?
why toyota didnt fit the 2.5 NA dynamic force with the 8 speed auto? can't fit?
@@ShawalAli-t8d in most other markets, they do, but with eCVT tranny and Hybrid A25A FXS powertrain. The planetary gears in eCVT is way superior to the old CVT tranny
more higher price tag
@@ShawalAli-t8d my Lexus NX250 (on TNGA-K platform) have that configuration. It’s fantastic setup IMHO for user experience and for those that don’t like CVT/eCVT. And yes, Aisin 8 speed torque converter tranny is way more expensive cost wise to Toyota/Lexus
@@ShawalAli-t8d it does fit in a TNGA-K platform. My NX250 has that 8 speed torque converter tranny on it. It is certainly a lot more expensive than the eCVT tranny and a lot more fun to drive
Forget these 2. Just buy the Zeekr 009. Rides like a magic carpet. The build quality is also so much better. Very luxurious feel inside the cabin.
Most importantly, the design of the Zeekr 009 doesn't make me feel like a limousine driver.😂
Agree with you
@@PlanetXenornophThank you. Collecting mine next week 😋
@@jinxforeva Congratulations to you 💃💃🤸♀️🤸♂️🤸 can you drift like Dominic Toretto 😆😆
Zeekr 009 looks ugly sorry
@@PlanetXenornoph I’m just gonna sleep chill in it. 😂
Love Vell🔥
Or.... should we just get a Zeekr 009 ?
No class, no resale value
whether he is just a driver or an owner, the arrogant attitude is always present in the driver. always be polite when driving. A luxury car needs good manners, then it looks like a real luxury. if the wife is hot-tempered, open the window and scold people, don't let her drive your luxury car. downgrade your luxury car.
armrest at the last row look horrible... not align properly 😅
the platform while toyota claim to be tnga-k but its actually an refresh of the old, nothing similar to those on camry or es
Wrong. TNGA-K platforms are used for all new Toyota/Lexus range
@ Toyota do release the chassis photo of these car and it's had 0 similarities with tnga K of Camry 😂 too bad RUclips comment section cannot attached photo
@ people could no longer believe whatever Toyota say. Most of their so call double wishbone rear suspension were multilink. No a single wishbone let alone double 😂😂😂
@@mahchunteng9434 better than Chinese car rear chopstick suspension that breaks off sporadically
@@mahchunteng9434 TNGA-K is a modular and Scalable platform used in Camry, RAV4, NX, RX, Klugger/Highlander, Crown (multi variants), LM, Alphard, Vellfire
I cant afford a half mil 😅, I'll get the recon still 😁
Lah, ingatkan nizam laksamana jadi host😅
Got resale value or not?
@@MH-is7eu as long as it’s not Chinese, it will have RV
Old 2.5 uses CVT, i owned one and it does the same thing too mimicking a regular AT when going full throttle. To me the power is sufficient enough as a family car
Old one uses 2.5 2ARFE engine. New one uses 2.5 A25A Dynamic Force engine. Way better low torque and lower fuel consumption. But too bad that UMW didn’t bring in the Hybrid
@ In Malaysia, the vellfire retains the old engine which is the 2AR-FE. Power and torque figures also remain the same.
@@Nabilllllll sad. The old engine is too weak, especially if it’s non-hybrid
Just get recon unit with hybrid engine…. Everything resolves well
when hybrid battery kaput... everything go down
@@kiatfoongchong2606 in Oz, most Toyota/Lexus hybrids from 2010 are still alive and well till today. Many in US reported battery failures after 20 years/300,000 miles or around 500,000kms
Staria far more interesting for me
At that crazy price and still faux leather?? 😢
Actually, Toyota/Lexus Nulux synthetic leather is very comfy and more durable than real leather. In Oz, I had a Lexus CT200h and the driver seat leather started to show wear signs after around 3 years. My current NX250 with Nulux still looks brand new after close to 32 months
nice
Insulting to customer.
How is it so that Toyota had to buy Engines and Gearbox from BMW to fund the Supra project ( because they were afraid they wont get their ROI back if they were to make their own ) and yet they can engineer a totally separate Gearbox and Engine for Alphards & vellfires JUST for the malaysian market alone ? Mind blowing stuff...
Because the Alphard is a volume seller for chauffeurs and the Supra is meant to be driven like a sports car.
@@agprd41 good point
I would rather buy nice house and Perudua Aruz.
Toyota alway give shit the premium were we paid for 😅
not toyota, its UMW
Buy Perodua😂😂😂? U mean buy a car.. From Perodua.
@@jereignjayavenhenryjohn6802
Yes yes. I’m not that rich to buy perudua 😅
UMW also controls Perodua
@@Ayamkenabannedtwice still much cheaper
Ridiculous price.
Pricey 🤣
Omg. For that price compare to the Denza 09, this look crap for the design and the material use.
What is the difference between Vellfire and Alphard? Aren't booth same??
@@Matt10013 in Malaysia, the engine and tranny on the Vellfire is one generation behind
@@Matt10013 these models which UMW brought in are unique to Malaysia only.
Previous gen around 250k not vip la lol any BBA new buyers can tapao alpat or veilfire
500k van…. Still.
It’s a people mover