Hell yes! In another twist of ironic hypocrisy from the sweaty buffalo, as he decries Israel for committing genocide, he denies (or fails to acknowledge) that his nation perpetrated one.
Thats why Christians should've never left the middle east until the crusades were done. We wouldn't be having this problem right now it would be "the anceint Muslim's" in the history books not "current Islamists".
It is quite rich for a person like Cenk to claim to care about the Israelis, innocent Israelis while also trying to act like the whole of the world felt the same. Thats the most bald faced like uttered on TV since Bill Clinton said "I never had sex with that woman" Utter moronic drivel from a man who has never been and never will go into an active war zone whilst his intellectual superior conveyed his points in a civil manner from WITHIN AN ACTIVE WARZONE. If I didn't detest all Cenk stood for I would almost feel sorry for him as this was like a debate between a PHD and a turnip...
@alvaromrc Well one called his channel after people doing genocide, and is pro hamas. And thinks loud equals being right. That should indicate how unmoral he is. If that isn't a big enough clue for you then we also know where you fall.
Cenk is such as insult to the intelligence. This idiotic is Echoes fabricated data that Hamas feeds Al Jazeera which feeds the West. I don't understand at all why this idiot is given a platform. His journalistic level is suitable for North Korea not an advanced civilization.
@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU what event can't you question? I mean, you can question the existence of the Sun, but there's a ton of evidence to support it's existence. Much like WW2 events.
"A man has one option in life, a life of choice or a fools little choice, a choice which matters and choice in the sly, a little one, by all means, a choice of wood or snow, a choise of my own. Is it a choice? Or a choice by which i chose myself. I chose to believe, in my choice. My burger is my choice, a choice of onion and two patties with relish" - Ronald McDonald.
@@bradleysmith2021 Evidence is nice, and I don't deny it, I simply say evidence can be misrepresented, and that is what is often going on. There is a reason why they don't want you to investigate further into that evidence, they don't want you to learn the truth about it.
@@RK-nq3fjexcept these crimes is simply war Israel has done nothing no other nation would have done in war infact it has been lauded by military experts for doing better at preserving civilian life in warfare than any other nation
@@RK-nq3fj There is no such thing as war crimes. There are no rules in war and anyone who can convince their enemy there is already won the war. Like the ancient proverb says "if you are not willing to go above and beyond what your enemy is willing to do you already lost the war" War crimes are only a means to further humiliate and punish your foe. Besides, the charge of war crimes only matter if you can make them stick. How many so called war crimes have we committed without consequence? So the only time it matters is when you can enforce it. Otherwise it's just acts of war. Which is exactly what it's been all along.
@@-KillaWatt- I hear you, but I don't agree with that. That was exactly the thinking until WW2 and we have made a lot of progress since then. The idea that anything goes as long as you label it a war, and nobody should condemn war crimes because they are not enforceable anyway not only seems like a cop out but also dangerous. There are basic rules like proportionality of response/retaliation, restrictions on the type of weapons, attack on civilians etc that the world should unite and condemn, and it has had a non zero impact in the conflicts across the world. Specifically for this conflict, people over the world should unite on their condemnaton when the response is disproportionate or the casualties seem vastly out of proportion for their objectives. Keep in mind, Israel is way more powerful than it's enemies, so it is not like a little restraint on civilian casualties will make them lose against Hamas or other terrorist groups.
@@szaboattila844 And this is your problem - "and only their lives, instead of supporting HUMAN LIFE of all religions or no religions." You just completely made that whole thing up. Then accuse them of it. They never said anything about not supporting human lives of any category. They only said they are supporting Jews in the context of the Israeli/Hamas conflict. YOU and people like you are the main reason the world is so fucked up right now. Just STFU already.
@@stuartbritton4811 : it is not clear from what he says: he puts the death of thousands of minors as their fault, more precisely deriving naturally and logically "from the guilt of the parents" - with all due respect, excusing the death of tens of thousands of children with such logic, it is as if Mr. D . would eat s**t! (being a civilized man, I see him eating with a fork and knife!)
No, being informed, experienced, educated, prepared, skilled in debate and able to control his emotions is. Yt needs to call someone to come pick their man up off the floor.
Yes, I liked how he explained the justice of the killing of 8000 Palestinian children (in short: they are guilty for the sins of their parents) I look forward to when he will explain with "common sense and intelligence" the justice of the killing of another 10000 Palestinian children in the following months of the war ! Guilty because he was born in Gaza!
@@szaboattila844. I am shocked with Douglas and his stance. Lost respect for him. Need to question everyone. Many have been propped up to be opposed opp, and then used for when it was time. JUST LIKE BEN! Thes poeple supporting any child to be unalived will have to answer at some point Its Disgusting.
Israel started it in 1948 and killing the innocent Palestinians since then, what was happened on 7 October was just a counter attack against oppression of 100 years. Why not talk about whag was happening from 1948 ????
@RexOffenceGA you mean when they pulled out of gaza and forcibly pulled jews from their homes? Nah we dont talk about that just like we dont talk about the millions of muslims china sends to camps nothing wrong with that they arent jews
@@ThekingofJerusalem god you're stupid. Good job spouting propaganda. I would recommend looking into intellectuals on both sides of the issue to find a good middle ground. The Palestinians were having meeting with Hitler in 1944 talking about how after the war was won by the Germans the Arabs would take over middle eastern extermination. The PLO (now known as the Palestinian authority) has hired Nazi SS officers for training as late as the 1970s.
@@worsethanjoerogan8061 the pro hamas did mentioned the 3 hostages who were killed by mistake and added to their hatred propaganda and cried out every single days.
@angelsegarra With an IDF unit and ONLY ever spruiks Israeli propaganda. Find me any interviews he has done with Palestinian farmers who had their land stolen and that have been beaten or had relatives killed by settlers. Find me just one interview. Lol He only ever presents one side of the argument and it's the genocidal Israeli side. He is a Zionist shill. Scum of the earth.
Why israel is oppressing Palestinians since 1948 ???? What was happened on 7 October was just a counter attack against the oppression of 100 years. What about israeli oppression from last hundred years????? Any one would fight if you invade thier country without a reason
@blackrooster9900 - Only to uneducated people. The mother f***er is literally a paid shill for Israel. You are such a loser for not knowing that. You got swayed by his British accent, and you mistake that for intelegence when it's nothing more than paid for propaganda. Clown and moron.
He comes across like an arrogant, war mongering idiot in this interview. It’s so naive to think that killing that many civilians, even if you’re killing Hamas terrorists as well, isn’t going to create far more extremists who want to kill you.
douglas murray and hero of the free world you americans are really stupid and that shows why america gets worser and worser because ther peopel dumb as shit. brain washt mumies.
it's so clear if you listen objectively. I hear logic, stats, and comprehensive understanding from Murray. Uyghur uses pure emotional rhetoric, name calling, and a raised voice. I mean I don't understand what the debate is? One is clearly well read, informed and has his boots on the ground. The other is screaming like a toddler.
That's how Cenk makes his money, by emotionally manipulating his audience cos that way his distorted facts go unchecked. It's the exact same formula his nephew uses on Twitch.
He banks on people not knowing the history of " The Young Turks". Which is correct because his viewers aren't that bright. Could it be ironic on his part? I doubt it.. seriously doubt it.
@NARKISDUDE so now you listen to Murrays crap instead. Fell for his shtick for quite some time myself but this last few weeks and months have highlighted how he's nothing but a propagandist for Israel and their lies. He's a bigger liar than even Cenk is and that's saying something.
The Turkish Muslim empire had no real resistance in stopping the Armenian genocide (1.5) million were killed Where is the Turkish admittance or compensation At least German government admitted to the Jews and paid compensation to the Jews
Cenk did not denied the Armenian Genocide , The Turkish is denying the Genocide Because if they admit the Ottomans committed atrocities against Armenians Greeks Asyrians and Kurds , they have to pay compensation to the survivors , which is very hefty sum
Perhaps for the same reason today's American citizens have begun to recognize the attempted genocide (some successful) of the indigenous people already living in the Americas when the first Europeans began stealing the wealth of a pristine continent. There is nothing special about American settler colonists, except for fighting to throw off the King. They simply took a continent of full of unspoiled, prime resources and converted it into wealth of individuals - rinse and repeat from coast to coast, killing anyone who got in their way..
1 day after the attack on October 7th, we had thousands of pro-Hamas protesters in matching headgear marching in the streets in Canada, and it has continued ever since. Most of them were what looked to be military age males. This is extremely frightening as we have now seen violence and threats from these people as well.
Lmao as someone in Canada I can very confidently say that this is a complete and utter lie and you are disgusting for trying to divert voices that are calling for support of the Palestinian PEOPLE by saying they are “pro-Hamas”. You have sadly either eaten up this sick propaganda or are perpetuating it.
@@renzo5282what part? Try all of it. He is lying with regards to "genocide" nonsense, actually pretending that the IDF is indiscriminately bombing civilians. This is a scary, scary lie that has already lead to a spike in antisemitism. He is taking Hamas' death count seriously, which is absurd; it will take many months and even years to get an accurate death toll. He lies about some fictional Israeli declaration of genocidal intent. Can you prove anything he said? I mean, have some honesty. P.S.: Jesus loves you
To be fair this is the standard Middle Eastern male response to any disagreement, anger and if possible violence, especially if the child violating prophet is discussed.
Politics aside, I never understood why Ana has stayed on tyt for this long. Not to say she should leave or go Dave Rubin... but... ooooffff. She's publicly commended the time she's spent working with him.. but, ew. Imagine having that right in your ear for years. "Something something something... NOW I'M SHOUTING! BLEEEEEEERRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH"
Ok holy shit, I really wasn't expecting much out of this clip but man did he dismantle Cenk. And that little jab he gave about "good luck running for office" was just perfect. I needed this after a rough night at work.
So this is where all the Progen0$ meetup. And this Douglas guy is just LYING thru his teeth and drawing up a bunch of Strawmen. 1. The !$r@£|!-gov. is against a 2-State-solution, they've EXPLICITLY said this MULTIPLE times. Even the BEST 2-$tate-proposals were extremely UNJUST against the Palestinians. Still PLO is open to a 2SS since 1975. And even then there were 36 attempts thru UN for Palestine to get a 2-$tate-deal along the 1967-borders, and EVERY TIME, !$r@£| and USA vetoed it (minus the 2 russia-china debacles). Some Palestinians want the 2SS, while some wants their whole land back and does not recognise the State of Israel. The Palestinians who want their whole land back are wrong and should be convinced to accept the 2-State-Solution, but they are justified in their feelings. When 1948 Civil-war broke out, almost 1.4 million Palestinians were exiled from their homes and the rest m∆$$∆¢r£d, in 1948 (Nakba). On 14 May 1948, David Ben-Gurion and the Jewish People's Council declared the establishment of a Jewish state in 'Eretz Israel' (The Land of Israel), to be known as the State of Israel, in the land of Palestine/Canaan. 2. Such a stupid analysis. It's not that Arabs don't accept them; it's that Palestinians don't want to leave their homeland. People like Doug want to frame the argument that in order to have peace the Palestinians need to leave their homeland from the ones who have been stealing it in the first place. 1948 occurred before Octobr23. There is nothing Bibi wants more than the Palestinians to leave. He wants their land (and the alleged oil resources offshore Gaza(?)). Hamas is rightfully criticized for not accepting the state of Israel , but it is also within the charter of Netanyahu’s Likud party that all land between Jordan and the sea shall be Israel, this is not often mentioned. So if the Palestinians were to leave, they would never be able to return, they would not have a land to return to. I believe Netanyahu sees the atrocities of October 7th as a welcomed excuse for a full blown war where he can annihilate all infrastructure, schools, hospitals in Gaza with impunity, north Gaza is already unlivable, south will follow, hoping that in the end the Gaza population may have no choice other than to leave. Bibi and his party has said openly many times they want to take over the whole thing, even without Bibi, Lukid is on the same page. In practical terms that is what concerns Arab leaders, that if the Palestinians leave there is no opposing Israel and nothing stopping them from doing the same in Lebanon and Egypt next. There are also political considerations of how this would look to the public. Israel wants every Palestinian to leave so they can have Gaza and the West Bank for themselves. If you want a country of your own than why in the hell would you leave? News flash people are still in Ukraine fighting. The whole population in Ukraine did not up and leave. Who do think is fighting for Ukraine? Americans??? Netanyahu wants every Palestinian dead or kicked out of Gaza and the West Bank especially Gaza for new construction with U.S. Chuck Shumer dollars. 3. IDF has a much much bigger funding than Xmas. (Cenk just said who has more freedom in carrying out their objectives) 4. !$r@e| built the tunnels. 5. out of the 21,000 ****, 96% are civilians. 6. Collective-Punishment is a warcrime. ****ing a hospital is a warcrime. 7. False-equivalence - Majority of the propalestinians are NOT antisemites, they are just procivilians. 8. There's hundreds of hostages taken by the IDF before October 2023 on false charges, including underage children. 9. When everyone else at the show describes textbook and condemn it and you sit and listen smugly and reply - ‘Well it’s all |-|∆π∆$’s fault that we killed these people….’ If you go that route than we can say if |$r@£| didn't occupy Palestine then this wouldn't have happened. Every |
It's obvious you don't watch Cenk. He addressed the issue about Armenia and apologized and has for years said it was wrong and he's changed his views, it's called growth. Try it out.
I can't stand Cenk but Murray came across as ill informed and hateful. He couldn't muster a single cogent point. Just rhetoric and hyperbole. Sadly Murray got his ass handed to him here.
I have really tried hard to see things from Cenk's perspective, but no matter how hard I try, I just cannot get my head that far up my ass. How does he manage it?
@@konstantinkrastev4478Douglas was diplomatic in his words. but got the gist of it correct. why no one takes Palestinian refugees? this should be disturbing at the very least. why does it have to be western countries that takes them it? what does other muslim countries knows about Palestinian and the west doesn't?
@@downunda107 no because the rest of world unlike the US isn't targeted by Israeli propaganda (ie AIPAC) into believing this started on October 7th. For one thing the IDF was busy killing Palestinians while aiding settlers in the West Bank leading up to the 7th and the other is the 7th was a symptom of decades of occupation.
Hamas was funded by Netanyahut. Oct. 7th is as much a creation to justify war as was 911. and the Invasion of Ukraine -create terrorists and then use their excesses to justify your own. @@skinnie2838
Mr Uygur is making his antisemitism laid bare. And he is not a great debater, he launches personal attacks and tries to cast his opponent someone detestable. He would try to "pigeon hold" and guilt trip people, as though they are personally responsible for what is happening half way across the world. The collective guilt argument if you will. Such as white guilt for slavery in the Deep South of the USA. In Mr Uygur's world view, a recent immigrant white Afrikan from South Africa, is somehow responsible for slavery and indentured servitude in the USA. Or an American born Chinese is responsible for Chinese Generalismo Chiang Kai Shek's White Terror against Chinese Communists and Socialists. Or perhaps the Communists' persecution of religious and ethnic minorities in mainland China. In this case, Mr Uygur believes that anyone who supports Israel in her defense against a genocidal terrorist regime in Gaza, are personally giving orders to commit genocide. In his words and rhetoric, Mr Uygur could be confused with a devoted Marxist, or a Nationalist Socialist. He clearly expressed himself as an anti-Semite and he supports socialist policies, and politicians who expressed socialist rhetoric.
I used to work with some lovely Kurdish refugees in the early 80’s when I lived in Sweden. No one cared much about them back then either and their stories were horrific. If you can’t blame Israel it seems no one will listen and there’s no big money in it either
The more I listen to Douglas Murray the more I love him. I put my hand on my heart that Cenk Uygur does not care for Palestinians at all. He says what ha say to get popularity and of course money.
This was rare case of Cenk winning. As much as I hate Cenk, Murray was being a total child in this debate and mostly talking nonsense about Cenk being a hermit or something.
Look into Douglas Murray and Piers. You’ll notice they get a lot of money from Israel’s government. They’ve worked with the directors and former agents of Shin Bet, and former intel officers of the IDF. So, wanna talk about what *you* consider the “establishment” talking points?
Nazi's like 100 to 1 kill killer ratio for 1 solder to 100 non solders it happened in Holland and I'm sure several other place too. So are the Israelis a better meaning few then 100 killed per citizen or worst? Much of the recent activity by Israel is vengeance of uncontrolled rage. Yet they claim to hold the higher ground. Nope
This is not a war, its a genocide - big difference and uncomparable to the ww1 and ww2, the only comparison is that Nettenyahu is the new Hitler and IDF is the Nazi's
Israel supporters typically behaviors is lying about the facts and blaming Hamma$ for the murders of 20+ thousand innocent people. Israel people have been saying for years (it is videotaped) , the second Nakba on the way. So please don’t come here and act like you know anything about the conflict in Palestine. Israel is committing gen_ocide same of that of the Nazi against Jews. For the record, it was not Muslims who killed the Jews, I was the Europeans in Spain , and Germany who started the massacre against minority Jews. Let me educate you because to me you sound very Low IQ, there are at least 8,000 Jews in Iran (which some of you view Iran as the extremist form of Islam) , there are at least 3,000 Jews in Morocco, there are about 10,000 Jews in the UAE. Btw Israel doesn’t represent Judaism , Israel is an oppressive authoritarian regime very similar to that of the Nazi Era. there are so many of our brothers and sisters of the Judaism faith who are actually fighting for the freedom of the Palestinians people and calling Israel for its horrific brutality against Palestinians. This guest called Douglas was just roll his eyes as the other guy was speaking which clearly shows he has lost the argument. So please just shush and go read a book maybe you will learn something.
“The UN took a strong stand against apartheid; and over the years, an international consensus was built, which helped to bring an end to this iniquitous system. But we know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians.” ― Nelson Mandela
@@JohnFelinn freedom of Palestinians from what? From their own government (Hamas)? Then yes. They should set themselves free from it. No one else stops them from being free.
Gaza tunnels deep in the ground wórk as bomb shelters. Don't forget Gazan voted Hamas to be their leader. I think Israel should take Gaza back and kick out all Palestinians. In biblical days the Palestinians were the Philistines. Goliath was the Philistine that King David slew.
@@jamesm3471Cenk is right ! Pisrahell and all of its zionist bitc..s need to get theire Heads out of theire a....s and come correct with facts ! Both of you need that 2
Not true. The US has been repeatedly criticized regarding both their tactics in wars and their justification for them. This includes WWII actions against both the Japanese and the Germans despite the fact that no one questions the right of the US to prosecute those wars (the US didn't start either of them either formally or effectively). The list of countries criticized for their behavior in wars, both justified and not, is a long one. It is absolutely not limited to Israel alone.
@@Genarii but the Us also doesn't have any of it's war in the last 80 years taken place near it's border . Not that I'm going to attack the Us over this fact but it is important to say that fact , and also The Us can pretty much do whatever it wants without being dependent or sanctioned by other countries . Btw the majority of the people that are anti israel are also anti american and anti western as well , there are very few outliers that would be like ultra nationalists /neo nazis (the real ones) that would be both anti israel but also will want their own countries/other background to be superior.
@@richardcraig599 only that it's specifically used to delegitimaz e country like israel while barley if ever mentions : the palastinian terrorist groups, iran,syria ,yemen ,north korea,china , putin's russia , pakistan, chad ,congo , Venezuela etc... There is only one country that gets over 140 condemnations on the Un in a period of 5 years while any other countries combined are less than half of that amount (around 50 total) So there should be at the very 1000 for each of those countries(and other) if we have that extremely ridiculous number .
no quite..he even attacks Jews that speak out against the Nethanyau mad and genocidal tactics. For him everything is simple: no matter how many thousands IDF kills blame it all on Hamas. Dumb and Dumber
ding ding ding we have a winner. Palestinians are Arabs who took a European name just for them to try and take owner ship of a land they are occupying.
How schools have failed in history, Focused on certain subjects and times . Leaving out 1917 / 1919 Europe England wrote in Balfour act giving Hebrew people a home in Palestine after WW2 1948 Europe sent migrants into Palestine by 1967 Israel newly created 1948 tolk the rest of Palestine and created mass refugee's in going to mass nations. Now the dog bit back to the owner that has been beating and kicking it his whole life .
You are correct the Palestinians are the occupiers, the land of Israel is belong to the Jews. The Muslims Quran says to the Jews to enter their holly land and protect it.
Cenk is just brainlessly virtue signaling, clearly he keeps ignoring the fact that the Palestinians are the ones that put Hamas there, and even to this day the majority still support them
Cenk looks like a huge warthog. Douglas is intelligent, attractive, brave and outspoken. I love watching his Interviews. He is not afraid to confront the enemy.
Mind Begs the Question: - Nazi Policies were Death Camps,Starvation,Pogroms,Gas Chambers,Ethnic Cleansing,etc - If a Govt/Nation Policies are Death Camps,Starvation,Pogroms,White Phosphorus,Ethnic Cleansing,etc - Democratic or Nazi?
@@Goobywoobygooluckily there aren't endless verses in the the old testament that demands jews to go slaughter non-jews in the name of jihad like it is the case with the death manual the Quran and hadiths.
@@ChameleonMD123 Personally I view Islam and Judaism as opposites. Islam is a pretty peaceful religion based on the revealed scripture of the Quran. But then there is the enormous wealth of traditions which build upon the revealed scripture in various ways often introducing more controversial ideas. Whereas Judaism is a pretty violent religion based on the revealed scripture of the Torah. But then there is the enormous wealth of tradition which build upon the revealed scripture in various ways often mitigating the more controversial ideas.
Did Chenk just resort to the “But I have Jewish friends” argument? I have been reasonably assured that argument is completely invalid. Great job as always Douglas Murray!
It’s not entirely irrelevant. Cenk founded his company with his Jewish friends and has family members who are Jewish. When you love and trust people from a group someone is attempting to say you hate because they’re part of that group, that information becomes relevant. It’s irrelevant in scenarios when someone says something blatantly racist and then tries to say they know someone who is that race, as a defense. You failed to understand the context in which it makes any sense. But that’s understandably a low IQ move on your part.
Kind of a imbalance to offer the people ur stepping on a offer that isreal created without their input. How about u get off their necks and then talk. Its like the slave masters offering a deal to the slaves he just whipped. How does that make sense? Free the ppl and then u can talk.
Lol. What a joke bro. They offer and they never did execute so naturally it was declined. Who wants to live in prison and someone taking your home. Be objective mate. Look at things objectively not subjectively
Blah blah bla. Do you even know what those offers were? Go read a bit and see whether those offers where fair or just pure injustice. Why on earth would any one refuse an offer to take their land back and stay under occupation, unless they were offered sh**t?
I really dont understand why Piers keeps having Cenk on. No one in the USA considers him an intellectual or anything even close. He has a show with declining viewership and decided to run for president for attention to help get more viewers back. Its a waste of time to have Douglas Murray debate him.
Douglas looks like he stepped away from dinner to chat for 20 minutes, Cenk looks like he was dreading this all week. These guys are in totally separate leagues and it really shows.
@@paulmiville6113 All various points by Douglas were on spot but Cenk has only one thing to say "8000 children Died"... He should learn first about War and Casualities... Responsible is HAMAS who is hiding and staying in dense Gaza colonies... Israel gave 7 days for civilians to leave before they can bomb Hamas..but civilians chose to stay... HAMAS rules Gaza. The killings are the responsibilities of HAMAS as Hamas could've ordered civilians to leave and evacuate the area...
Calling Cenk Uygur a 'big brain' is hilarious.
the only thing that is big is his mouth.
Have you ever seen Young y??!! Oh my God!!! Absolutely ridiculous! They cater to teenagers!!
Douglas is à big Brain? . you bunch of idiots. Douglas made a name only with propaganda for Israël. it's his paid mission. You morrons.
True!
At least he's prettier than that fake blonde bitch he shares the desk with... horrible people
Calling Cenk a “big brain” is like calling him the peak of human physical fitness. It’s simply not true and a lie of biblical galactic magnitude
yeah at least he isn't a shameless liar
look up 'liar' in the dictionary and there's a photo of Cenk@@aaronfranklin6863
Hahaha I was thinking the same thing as soon as he said that!
@@aaronfranklin6863lmao he lies all the time
It's beyond ridiculous. There's only one on this show with a big brain and it's Douglas.
I find cries of genocide a little hypocritical from someone who named his show after the Turkish leaders that committed the Armenia genocide.
Hell yes! In another twist of ironic hypocrisy from the sweaty buffalo, as he decries Israel for committing genocide, he denies (or fails to acknowledge) that his nation perpetrated one.
I know right?
Free Kurdistan!
Don’t forget Turkey always deny that they orchestrated that massacre, in fact Leader of peace Erdogan says he’d deport any one who mentions it.
It's a name pal .Get outta here
They’re all r£ptili@ns...
and what about the BL@ck g£n0c!d£ May brotha?! ....
What about daaat?!!! ....
..... Aaain’t $h!t about us?!
Imagine someone starting a war and then complain about losing it.
You’ve just imagined the entirety of Arab Muslim society…
Nam
@@sidbullet1 like literally for generations
Thats why Christians should've never left the middle east until the crusades were done. We wouldn't be having this problem right now it would be "the anceint Muslim's" in the history books not "current Islamists".
🇮🇱 did
You go Douglas,the world needs.more thinkers and speakers like you. 👌
Doesn’t even need one Douglas.
We really dont
Ridiculous comment, he's a typical arrogant Israeli Zionist animal
Thank you Mr. Murray. 100% spot on.
he is not gonna shag you
Well, ... we all know Mr. Murray's default is fact and reason, and CHUNK's "WHERE'S THE NEAREST ALL YOU CAN EAT BUFFET ?"
Muslims are mad because they hate Jews. Genius of him. My god he is like Albert Einstein
Murray loves Isreal because they welcome his kind of friends the pedos
Its rare that you can witness the difference between intelligence and stupidity in such clarity
It is quite rich for a person like Cenk to claim to care about the Israelis, innocent Israelis while also trying to act like the whole of the world felt the same. Thats the most bald faced like uttered on TV since Bill Clinton said "I never had sex with that woman" Utter moronic drivel from a man who has never been and never will go into an active war zone whilst his intellectual superior conveyed his points in a civil manner from WITHIN AN ACTIVE WARZONE. If I didn't detest all Cenk stood for I would almost feel sorry for him as this was like a debate between a PHD and a turnip...
It is amazing and so clear to see and hear An intelligent person standing against a pathetic person
Who is who? 😏
@alvaromrc Well one called his channel after people doing genocide, and is pro hamas. And thinks loud equals being right. That should indicate how unmoral he is. If that isn't a big enough clue for you then we also know where you fall.
Cenk is such as insult to the intelligence. This idiotic is Echoes fabricated data that Hamas feeds Al Jazeera which feeds the West. I don't understand at all why this idiot is given a platform. His journalistic level is suitable for North Korea not an advanced civilization.
Douglas Murry is an absolutely wonderful man he speaks the truth and with such grace! Love this ❤❤❤
hes a cleuless heartless asshole
Cenk just rants, shouts and lies. Douglas mopped the floor with him.
😂😂😂😂
Without lies Islam dies 😂😂
Cenkis khan
Yep. Cenk doesn’t even know he was outclassed.
Yeah okay.
I couldn't admire and respect Douglas Murray more..🙏🙏🙏
And you are moslem
@@SUPERPOWERCHINA_😂
How can you admire someone that stands with genocide and when questioned is only able to resort to personal insults?
@@dogzdigitalshhhh
@@dogzdigitalwhen did he stand for genocide? These are such propaganda terms
No one has ever accused Cenk of having a “big brain.”
Right?! And NOW Chunk pretends to care about dead babies. 🙄
They spelled mouth wrong.
He can't have a big brain hes a coomer
I noticed that too. A bit of an insult to Douglas to put Cenk on a par with him.
Cenk is a clown. Way out of his depth when up against someone of Murray’s calibre
Douglas Murray-THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU.
Bravo Douglas Murray. Great mind, great logic, thanks
Yes Robert and Incredibly brave!
" Incredibly brave". Incredibly silly.
Well said Douglas. You nailed it!
If the west likes the Jews so much why won’t they take them in? Oh I forgot, they got kicked out of 109 countries 😹😹😹😹😹😹😹
Totally!
He said absolutely nothing more than a load of bs. A sick cow suffering from diarrhea or hearing Douglas rant sound pretty much the same
Israel is genocidal
You crazy and he crazy
Douglas Murray THRASHED this guy
It’s not hard to do. Cenk is useless.
How? By whataboutery?
Because he's actually smart and is able to reason.
@@cherylanne6549 Calling that lunatic smart is an insult.
Muslims are idiot n rude.ifcenk is sad for d killing of palestinian he won't be laughing synically.
well done Douglas, you really dismantled this pro hamas propagandist
dismantled is an understatement
A Turk talking about genocide. Oh the irony.
there are plenty of decent turks. But not the one who founded an organization named after a genocidal group
Spot on 😂😂😂😂😂.
You mean a Turd 💩..
Bigots
a Turk who glorifies the Armenian genocide by naming his company "The Young Turks"
Cenk Uygur is an absolute disgrace for journalism.
he will only get followers through spurting hate - otherwise known as racists and terrorist!
For telling his other side of the story !? 🤦♀️
How is that?
Are you just tryna repeat the comments? So cringe
He's a disgrace to all other fat sweaty men.
Why, since 7th of October, nobody pointed out that taking hostages is a warcrime?
Not even Israel cares about the hostages, why should we ?
Well obviously 'they' have...
You do know that Israel has taken hostages too?
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F… ing BS. Wretch.
Go google it then give us solid proof you just didnt pull BS out of thin air.
You realise Israel has thousands of innocent Palestinians imprisoned without crime or trial where they are regularly tortured and abused??
Thank you Douglas Murray for the truth
His show is partial truths and twisted reality. Douglas you nailed him dead on.
“The truth has no defense against a fool determine to believe a lie. “ Mark Twain
reminds me of the ww2 event that you cant question
@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU what event can't you question?
I mean, you can question the existence of the Sun, but there's a ton of evidence to support it's existence.
Much like WW2 events.
@@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU Indeed.
"A man has one option in life, a life of choice or a fools little choice, a choice which matters and choice in the sly, a little one, by all means, a choice of wood or snow, a choise of my own. Is it a choice? Or a choice by which i chose myself. I chose to believe, in my choice. My burger is my choice, a choice of onion and two patties with relish" - Ronald McDonald.
@@bradleysmith2021 Evidence is nice, and I don't deny it, I simply say evidence can be misrepresented, and that is what is often going on. There is a reason why they don't want you to investigate further into that evidence, they don't want you to learn the truth about it.
Douglas Murray “Don’t start wars and complain when you lose them”
Yep, the complaint is not against the war. It is against war crimes.
@@RK-nq3fjexcept these crimes is simply war Israel has done nothing no other nation would have done in war infact it has been lauded by military experts for doing better at preserving civilian life in warfare than any other nation
Shut up, I’d put your tongue back in your mouth if I were you
@@RK-nq3fj There is no such thing as war crimes. There are no rules in war and anyone who can convince their enemy there is already won the war. Like the ancient proverb says "if you are not willing to go above and beyond what your enemy is willing to do you already lost the war"
War crimes are only a means to further humiliate and punish your foe. Besides, the charge of war crimes only matter if you can make them stick. How many so called war crimes have we committed without consequence? So the only time it matters is when you can enforce it. Otherwise it's just acts of war. Which is exactly what it's been all along.
@@-KillaWatt- I hear you, but I don't agree with that. That was exactly the thinking until WW2 and we have made a lot of progress since then. The idea that anything goes as long as you label it a war, and nobody should condemn war crimes because they are not enforceable anyway not only seems like a cop out but also dangerous. There are basic rules like proportionality of response/retaliation, restrictions on the type of weapons, attack on civilians etc that the world should unite and condemn, and it has had a non zero impact in the conflicts across the world.
Specifically for this conflict, people over the world should unite on their condemnaton when the response is disproportionate or the casualties seem vastly out of proportion for their objectives. Keep in mind, Israel is way more powerful than it's enemies, so it is not like a little restraint on civilian casualties will make them lose against Hamas or other terrorist groups.
Well said Douglas. Proud of you
That was absolutely awesome. Well done, Douglas.
Douglas is fantastic smart strong ; I thank him from all the decent people for standing up to support Israel and Jewish people.
This is his problem and yours: support Jews and only their lives, instead of supporting HUMAN LIFE of all religions or no religions.
@@szaboattila844 And this is your problem - "and only their lives, instead of supporting HUMAN LIFE of all religions or no religions." You just completely made that whole thing up. Then accuse them of it. They never said anything about not supporting human lives of any category. They only said they are supporting Jews in the context of the Israeli/Hamas conflict. YOU and people like you are the main reason the world is so fucked up right now. Just STFU already.
I'm sure he supports all human life. @@szaboattila844
@@stuartbritton4811 : it is not clear from what he says: he puts the death of thousands of minors as their fault, more precisely deriving naturally and logically "from the guilt of the parents" - with all due respect, excusing the death of tens of thousands of children with such logic, it is as if Mr. D . would eat s**t! (being a civilized man, I see him eating with a fork and knife!)
@@szaboattila844Your profile picture perfectly matches your mind.
Douglas Murray is a brilliant man. Please keep speaking
Yeah, if being a snide, ehotist is the defintion of brilliant.
Note: his opinion isn't fact. Just an opinion
No he's not. You're just dumb enough to believe so
No, being informed, experienced, educated, prepared, skilled in debate and able to control his emotions is. Yt needs to call someone to come pick their man up off the floor.
Douglas Murray is such a clever man. ❤
I Love Douglas Murray! He is brilliant!
😂😂😂😂
Yes, I liked how he explained the justice of the killing of 8000 Palestinian children (in short: they are guilty for the sins of their parents) I look forward to when he will explain with "common sense and intelligence" the justice of the killing of another 10000 Palestinian children in the following months of the war ! Guilty because he was born in Gaza!
@@szaboattila844. I am shocked with Douglas and his stance. Lost respect for him. Need to question everyone. Many have been propped up to be opposed opp, and then used for when it was time. JUST LIKE BEN! Thes poeple supporting any child to be unalived will have to answer at some point Its Disgusting.
Douglas is a very wise man with common sense and values. Cannot say the same for Uygur he should pay attention to Douglas and learn something.
The only thing to learn from Jews is how to lie and act like a victim
Why is it moral good to bonnb ch1ldr3n but immoral to marry a child
He should watch the debate Murray had with Malcolm Gladwell.
Saying that,I don't think Cenk has the intelligence to learn how to debate.
He's an Oaf!
Cenk Uygur and people like him are "always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." 2 Timothy 3:7
Douglas is crazy man, honestly what's wrong with the west 😕
Douglas Murray is brilliant.
Yes, he is! Douglas Murray for PM!
He's a plank
He's got the brains of a rocking horse stop funding Israel
@Bill-kj5xw you're a mouth breather.
If I want to hear a arse hole I would fart
Thank you for sharing the truth Douglas ..🙏
If you keep knocking on War's door, don't be surprised when War answers.
Israel started it in 1948 and killing the innocent Palestinians since then, what was happened on 7 October was just a counter attack against oppression of 100 years. Why not talk about whag was happening from 1948 ????
That's why jews get along with everyone so well right? 🤡
@@ThekingofJerusalem why not talk about what happened in 2005? When Israel stopped the fighting completely?
@RexOffenceGA you mean when they pulled out of gaza and forcibly pulled jews from their homes? Nah we dont talk about that just like we dont talk about the millions of muslims china sends to camps nothing wrong with that they arent jews
@@ThekingofJerusalem god you're stupid. Good job spouting propaganda. I would recommend looking into intellectuals on both sides of the issue to find a good middle ground. The Palestinians were having meeting with Hitler in 1944 talking about how after the war was won by the Germans the Arabs would take over middle eastern extermination. The PLO (now known as the Palestinian authority) has hired Nazi SS officers for training as late as the 1970s.
The world didnt cry out
. People were celebrating. Talking about empathie, right.
The hostages were rarely mentioned in the first few weeks.
@@worsethanjoerogan8061not just the first few weeks, till this day.
@@worsethanjoerogan8061It’s funny how the Metoo crowd is silent on the rampant sexual assault by Hamas as well.
You are all delusional 😂 was all over the news
@@worsethanjoerogan8061 the pro hamas did mentioned the 3 hostages who were killed by mistake and added to their hatred propaganda and cried out every single days.
Douglas Murray is a war correspondent. Hence his first hand observations.
Reporting from the safety of Israel. No war happening in Tel Aviv
As opposed to a keyboard warrior especially the ones from Pakistan and Indonesia
@@fanmael1 Tel aviv has been bombed on a daily basis right after oct 7th. Another ignorant abdul.
He's been into Gaza you clown. What about you?
@angelsegarra With an IDF unit and ONLY ever spruiks Israeli propaganda. Find me any interviews he has done with Palestinian farmers who had their land stolen and that have been beaten or had relatives killed by settlers. Find me just one interview. Lol
He only ever presents one side of the argument and it's the genocidal Israeli side. He is a Zionist shill. Scum of the earth.
Douglas Murray, the pride of gay men. High calibre, practical and outspoken against injustice. Not to mention he's gorgeous 😍
how can us normal men and women proud of being straight?
a bunch of us are gorgeous with gorgeous kids
gouglas is losing it
I don't think peace is in Hamas vocabulary. Stay strong Israel.
Shitrael you mean 😂😂😂😂 victim card is expired cunt get over it 😂😂😂😂
Why israel is oppressing Palestinians since 1948 ???? What was happened on 7 October was just a counter attack against the oppression of 100 years. What about israeli oppression from last hundred years????? Any one would fight if you invade thier country without a reason
literally isn't... Hamas literally is translated to "Violence" oh the irony..
The fact that their religion teach “Peace” and they practice anything but Peace🤦🏻♀️
Stay ignorant
Douglas Murray is articulate, intelligent and very precise….The way he rips people to shreds👌👊 Sublime 😂
what riping, I honestly question his humanity on how little he cared for all the kids and civilans mordered by IDF terrorist bombings
Oh come off it. He sounds like a total lunatic, and was trying too hard to sound smart and witty with petty insults.
Only person who got ripped is uncle dougie
@@wingofshu
There are no children in Gaza only soldiers, even if they are under the age of eight you ignorant fool
@blackrooster9900 - Only to uneducated people. The mother f***er is literally a paid shill for Israel. You are such a loser for not knowing that. You got swayed by his British accent, and you mistake that for intelegence when it's nothing more than paid for propaganda. Clown and moron.
Cenk is always out of his league in these debates. Douglas reigns supreme, as usual.
He was good in this debate
Douglas Murray is a clown.
@@michaelwilliamson4759he's not a clown but he's just as much of a partisan as Cenk is.
@@michaelwilliamson4759says the person with a 40 IQ?
@@zhaowei3025
Says the person who knows the background of Douglas Murray and who he gets his money from. Piers Morgan, as well.
Douglas Murray nailed the coffin on every answer.. point on point. very intelligent debater
Stay strong Douglas Murray , a Hero of this free World .
He comes across like an arrogant, war mongering idiot in this interview. It’s so naive to think that killing that many civilians, even if you’re killing Hamas terrorists as well, isn’t going to create far more extremists who want to kill you.
😂😂😂
What utter rubbish
douglas murray and hero of the free world you americans are really stupid and that shows why america gets worser and worser because ther peopel dumb as shit. brain washt mumies.
@@jacquelinegore3316 please elaborate
Love you Douglas you are spot on. I love the character assessment on Cenk. His ignorance show an even on his young Turk show. Pathetic. Good job.
it's so clear if you listen objectively. I hear logic, stats, and comprehensive understanding from Murray. Uyghur uses pure emotional rhetoric, name calling, and a raised voice. I mean I don't understand what the debate is? One is clearly well read, informed and has his boots on the ground. The other is screaming like a toddler.
That's how Cenk makes his money, by emotionally manipulating his audience cos that way his distorted facts go unchecked. It's the exact same formula his nephew uses on Twitch.
Not sure what video you watched! I saw exactly the opposite here.
Well said, Douglas Murray👏👏👏
Thank you DM for crushing this debate. Keep up the good work. MUCH ❤
Calling Douglas Murrays work good is pretty halarious
Douglas Murray did not crush this debate, his only comeback was personal attacks and the tried and true anti-Semite trope.
Oh really, he crushed this debate did he?
you're an even bigger clown than he is. Have you considered a career in comedy?
The fact he calls his organisation Young Turks says alot about this guy
Say all you need to know...... he is the enemy
He banks on people not knowing the history of " The Young Turks". Which is correct because his viewers aren't that bright. Could it be ironic on his part? I doubt it.. seriously doubt it.
I used to be a leftist and listened to his crap for around 3 years (and being young I ate it up), he is poison under the guise of 'humanist'
Do you even know what it means when they say young Turks? You have no idea yet soo proud with your ignorance
@NARKISDUDE so now you listen to Murrays crap instead. Fell for his shtick for quite some time myself but this last few weeks and months have highlighted how he's nothing but a propagandist for Israel and their lies. He's a bigger liar than even Cenk is and that's saying something.
Why is Mr denied Armenian genocide suddenly caring about genocide.
Note that he didn’t use the young Turks and the Armenian people, as an example for what genocide looks like.
The Turkish Muslim empire had no real resistance in stopping the Armenian genocide
(1.5) million were killed
Where is the Turkish admittance or compensation
At least German government admitted to the Jews and paid compensation to the Jews
@@pommiebears Conspicuously absent.
Cenk did not denied the Armenian Genocide , The Turkish is denying the Genocide Because if they admit the Ottomans committed atrocities against Armenians Greeks Asyrians and Kurds , they have to pay compensation to the survivors , which is very hefty sum
Perhaps for the same reason today's American citizens have begun to recognize the attempted genocide (some successful) of the indigenous people already living in the Americas when the first Europeans began stealing the wealth of a pristine continent.
There is nothing special about American settler colonists, except for fighting to throw off the King. They simply took a continent of full of unspoiled, prime resources and converted it into wealth of individuals - rinse and repeat from coast to coast, killing anyone who got in their way..
😍Douglas Murray😍 you nailed him
1 day after the attack on October 7th, we had thousands of pro-Hamas protesters in matching headgear marching in the streets in Canada, and it has continued ever since. Most of them were what looked to be military age males. This is extremely frightening as we have now seen violence and threats from these people as well.
Deport! Deport! Deport!
Same here in the UK and to make it worse our police appear to support pro Palestinians which is disgraceful
Canada just announced they will give 3yr Visas to these people... and the tunnelers thank them for their support of the "cause"... Trudeau must go
Lmao as someone in Canada I can very confidently say that this is a complete and utter lie and you are disgusting for trying to divert voices that are calling for support of the Palestinian PEOPLE by saying they are “pro-Hamas”. You have sadly either eaten up this sick propaganda or are perpetuating it.
Calling every protestor “pro-Hamas” is the same thing as me saying that you are pro the murder of thousands of children in Gaza.
Douglas Murray never fails to deliver.
Yes he is very skillful at delivering enemy propaganda
@@renzo5282 Haha were you proud of Cenk's performance here?
@@spenser9908 Certainly. What part of his did argument can you factually rebuke?
@@renzo5282 Did he make an argument at all? All he did was call Douglas evil lol. It was pathetic.
@@renzo5282what part? Try all of it. He is lying with regards to "genocide" nonsense, actually pretending that the IDF is indiscriminately bombing civilians. This is a scary, scary lie that has already lead to a spike in antisemitism.
He is taking Hamas' death count seriously, which is absurd; it will take many months and even years to get an accurate death toll.
He lies about some fictional Israeli declaration of genocidal intent.
Can you prove anything he said? I mean, have some honesty.
P.S.: Jesus loves you
No one is allowed to ever allowed to disagree with Cenk about anything. He immediately has a temper trantrum. He does it every time.
To be fair this is the standard Middle Eastern male response to any disagreement, anger and if possible violence, especially if the child violating prophet is discussed.
They are a HIGHLY STRUNG CULTURE. Reaction before THINKING!
Politics aside, I never understood why Ana has stayed on tyt for this long. Not to say she should leave or go Dave Rubin... but... ooooffff.
She's publicly commended the time she's spent working with him.. but, ew. Imagine having that right in your ear for years.
"Something something something... NOW I'M SHOUTING! BLEEEEEEERRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH"
@@Steamplaguenice to see your misinformed Islamophobia at the forefront of your publicised views
The temper tantrum could also be a spawn from listening to hypocritical twaddle and shameless lies........
Calling Cenk a presidential challenger is comic gold.
Ok holy shit, I really wasn't expecting much out of this clip but man did he dismantle Cenk. And that little jab he gave about "good luck running for office" was just perfect. I needed this after a rough night at work.
Cenk is a joke, preying on the naive/gullible.
that bender cant dismantle a door knob let alone a person you dumb twit
So this is where all the Progen0$ meetup. And this Douglas guy is just LYING thru his teeth and drawing up a bunch of Strawmen.
1. The !$r@£|!-gov. is against a 2-State-solution, they've EXPLICITLY said this MULTIPLE times. Even the BEST 2-$tate-proposals were extremely UNJUST against the Palestinians. Still PLO is open to a 2SS since 1975. And even then there were 36 attempts thru UN for Palestine to get a 2-$tate-deal along the 1967-borders, and EVERY TIME, !$r@£| and USA vetoed it (minus the 2 russia-china debacles). Some Palestinians want the 2SS, while some wants their whole land back and does not recognise the State of Israel. The Palestinians who want their whole land back are wrong and should be convinced to accept the 2-State-Solution, but they are justified in their feelings. When 1948 Civil-war broke out, almost 1.4 million Palestinians were exiled from their homes and the rest m∆$$∆¢r£d, in 1948 (Nakba). On 14 May 1948, David Ben-Gurion and the Jewish People's Council declared the establishment of a Jewish state in 'Eretz Israel' (The Land of Israel), to be known as the State of Israel, in the land of Palestine/Canaan.
2. Such a stupid analysis. It's not that Arabs don't accept them; it's that Palestinians don't want to leave their homeland. People like Doug want to frame the argument that in order to have peace the Palestinians need to leave their homeland from the ones who have been stealing it in the first place. 1948 occurred before Octobr23. There is nothing Bibi wants more than the Palestinians to leave. He wants their land (and the alleged oil resources offshore Gaza(?)). Hamas is rightfully criticized for not accepting the state of Israel , but it is also within the charter of Netanyahu’s Likud party that all land between Jordan and the sea shall be Israel, this is not often mentioned. So if the Palestinians were to leave, they would never be able to return, they would not have a land to return to.
I believe Netanyahu sees the atrocities of October 7th as a welcomed excuse for a full blown war where he can annihilate all infrastructure, schools, hospitals in Gaza with impunity, north Gaza is already unlivable, south will follow, hoping that in the end the Gaza population may have no choice other than to leave.
Bibi and his party has said openly many times they want to take over the whole thing, even without Bibi, Lukid is on the same page. In practical terms that is what
concerns Arab leaders, that if the Palestinians leave there is no opposing Israel and nothing stopping them from doing the same in Lebanon and Egypt next. There are also political considerations of how this would look to the public. Israel wants every Palestinian to leave so they can have Gaza and the West Bank for themselves. If you want a country of your own than why in the hell would you leave? News flash people are still in Ukraine fighting. The whole population in Ukraine did not up and leave. Who do think is fighting for Ukraine? Americans??? Netanyahu wants every Palestinian dead or kicked out of Gaza and the West Bank especially Gaza for new construction with U.S. Chuck Shumer dollars.
3. IDF has a much much bigger funding than Xmas. (Cenk just said who has more freedom in carrying out their objectives)
4. !$r@e| built the tunnels.
5. out of the 21,000 ****, 96% are civilians.
6. Collective-Punishment is a warcrime. ****ing a hospital is a warcrime.
7. False-equivalence - Majority of the propalestinians are NOT antisemites, they are just procivilians.
8. There's hundreds of hostages taken by the IDF before October 2023 on false charges, including underage children.
9. When everyone else at the show describes textbook and condemn it and you sit and listen smugly and reply - ‘Well it’s all |-|∆π∆$’s fault that we killed these people….’
If you go that route than we can say if |$r@£| didn't occupy Palestine then this wouldn't have happened. Every |
Mr. Murray grinded out the tune on his organ of reason and Cenk the monkey danced to his tune!
Did you watch a different show?
It's Ironic having a man who calls his show "the young turks" complaining about Genocide, just don't ask him about the Armenians.
Absolutely…this “man” is the biggest hypocrite. But in all fairness, some attention should be given by someone to the Israel Azeri relationship
Why isn't this the most popular comment here? There's a Turkish guy talking about genocide, it's insane!
Or the Cypriots
Wonder if he has had that conversation with his Armenian American co-host, Ana Kasparian.
It's obvious you don't watch Cenk. He addressed the issue about Armenia and apologized and has for years said it was wrong and he's changed his views, it's called growth. Try it out.
Douglas Murray I applaud you!
🤣
I can't stand Cenk but Murray came across as ill informed and hateful. He couldn't muster a single cogent point. Just rhetoric and hyperbole. Sadly Murray got his ass handed to him here.
@@apathyguy8338what did he say that was wrong or “ill informed”?
@@apathyguy8338he didn’t say anything incorrect factually….
@@apathyguy8338 You talk alot of bs for not backing anything you say.
Thank you, Douglas Murray! A beacon of light! I truly do hope you are well off, or at least comfortable! :)
I'll be looking into buying your books!
You can not start a war and then play victim.
Look up the toddler Mohammed Tamimi and see who started the war
@@randomhuman2595 Yeah, Palestine.
@@mobiusone6994 Look at the date he was shot
On point
During Operation cast lead 2009 and protective shield 2014 Israel killed more people than died on October 7th, how did they start the war?
I have really tried hard to see things from Cenk's perspective, but no matter how hard I try, I just cannot get my head that far up my ass. How does he manage it?
Practice
@@curtisvalle5141 Its a bit tough on the nose and sinuses, so I will pass, but thanks. 😂
Oh Douglas, you always make my day. ❤
a fascist gay made your day lol
@@konstantinkrastev4478 you are correct about one thing and totally incorrect about the other.
Douglas is an intellectual troll and I love him. Cenk is a clown child.
@@konstantinkrastev4478Douglas was diplomatic in his words. but got the gist of it correct. why no one takes Palestinian refugees? this should be disturbing at the very least. why does it have to be western countries that takes them it? what does other muslim countries knows about Palestinian and the west doesn't?
@@JaeohnEspherasthat they are piece of junk. Every body knows that and no one wants to deal with them. Who wants to let in terrorists?
Bravo Douglas!! Well said!! 👏
gotta love his smug look ... what a terrible mistake this douche murray ... the doc must have slapped his mama instead of him.
as always ❤
You applaud ad hominem insults in lieu of actual substantive arguments?
The numbers of injured are the lies of hamas. Even the UN followed them and than changed it.
You ok?
It is HAMAS WAR ON ISRAEL. Not Israel war on Gaza . In oct 7 They attacked and invaded Israel .
Well stated. The factual reality of that is not acknowledged across the World ✌️🦘
Good point, BUT I would say that it is "Hamas's Battle on Israel". The broader war is: The Islamists War On The West.
Exactly - I’m not at all sure why this does not seem to be understood .
Murray won this. Turks know genocide. What is the Armenian number?
@@downunda107 no because the rest of world unlike the US isn't targeted by Israeli propaganda (ie AIPAC) into believing this started on October 7th. For one thing the IDF was busy killing Palestinians while aiding settlers in the West Bank leading up to the 7th and the other is the 7th was a symptom of decades of occupation.
Called Cenk a big brain, we must be in the idiocracy
Upsized mindset
He is comparably.
Cenk is a big head with a small brain.
Is a tiny brain, floating in a pool of crap, inside a big head.
need to call stupids as big brain to make appear the liar as gaining the argument.
I love watching Douglas destroy Cenk. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
If you’re annoyed at Douglas Murray for talking over Cenk, if you’ve seen Cenk debate before, you’ll know why
That's right, which is why I never found Cenk credible. ....And now my Hero Murray is without credibility.
There is never a reason for Murray to be just a complete loser like that
@@cosmicmariner6621 You must be high. Cenk got destroyed by facts here and this has done nothing but boost Douglas up.
I am just annoyed to hear Cenk nonsense, had no problem with Douglas Murray shutting him up
Hamas was funded by Netanyahut. Oct. 7th is as much a creation to justify war as was 911. and the Invasion of Ukraine -create terrorists and then use their excesses to justify your own. @@skinnie2838
Big brain? Debating Cenk Uygur is like shooting fish in a barrel.
I chuckled quite a bit when he associated Cenk with a "big brain"
More like a pig in a pen
Mr Uygur is making his antisemitism laid bare. And he is not a great debater, he launches personal attacks and tries to cast his opponent someone detestable. He would try to "pigeon hold" and guilt trip people, as though they are personally responsible for what is happening half way across the world.
The collective guilt argument if you will. Such as white guilt for slavery in the Deep South of the USA. In Mr Uygur's world view, a recent immigrant white Afrikan from South Africa, is somehow responsible for slavery and indentured servitude in the USA.
Or an American born Chinese is responsible for Chinese Generalismo Chiang Kai Shek's White Terror against Chinese Communists and Socialists. Or perhaps the Communists' persecution of religious and ethnic minorities in mainland China.
In this case, Mr Uygur believes that anyone who supports Israel in her defense against a genocidal terrorist regime in Gaza, are personally giving orders to commit genocide.
In his words and rhetoric, Mr Uygur could be confused with a devoted Marxist, or a Nationalist Socialist. He clearly expressed himself as an anti-Semite and he supports socialist policies, and politicians who expressed socialist rhetoric.
Ya Chunk yogurt
😂😅😅
Why hasn't the guy on the right been crying about the 110,000 Kurds who have been killed by the Turks in a similar land dispute since 1979?
Murray made some great points! Why not bring up these other conflicts that ARE genocide! Sudan is a perfect example!
Because this is about Gaza not about the Kurds. It's a different show idiot
I used to work with some lovely Kurdish refugees in the early 80’s when I lived in Sweden.
No one cared much about them back then either and their stories were horrific. If you can’t blame Israel it seems no one will listen and there’s no big money in it either
And the Russian invasion of Ukraine, along with the brutality that came with that.
because they are debating israel vs palestine
The more I listen to Douglas Murray the more I love him. I put my hand on my heart that Cenk Uygur does not care for Palestinians at all. He says what ha say to get popularity and of course money.
Douglas is the man.
Always
Nope. He’s just a war propagandist shilling for Israel.
I love seeing a debate between two clever, well-informed men.
Unfortunately, Cenk showed up, so they were a man short.
LOLLL 😂😂
Well played
Haha
😂
This was rare case of Cenk winning. As much as I hate Cenk, Murray was being a total child in this debate and mostly talking nonsense about Cenk being a hermit or something.
Cenk: "I don't trust Hamas, but let me quote their numbers..."
🤡🤪🤣
Yup HYPOCRITE is he.💁🏽♀️
He doesn't think. He just spews Leftist lies.
Mind Begs the Question:
- If a Israel PM/Govt in 2019
- Publicly promoted funding Hamas
- To avoid 2 State Solution
- Hamas is Israels Proxy,no?
I thought the Aussies would not be on the side of the colonisers. Israel is evil. Please stop murdering civilians
Cenk is a 🤡🤡🤡 beyond belief....
Douglas Murray you rock!!!!❤
Murray spot on as always.
Cenk is who you go to to know what the establishment propaganda is. He just spews emotions and establishment talking points.
Look into Douglas Murray and Piers. You’ll notice they get a lot of money from Israel’s government. They’ve worked with the directors and former agents of Shin Bet, and former intel officers of the IDF.
So, wanna talk about what *you* consider the “establishment” talking points?
100 fucking %
@@michaelwilliamson4759 Cenk gets plenty of hand outs, he's a PR machine himself, one that's stuck on repeat.
He is always angry. The hatred in his eyes is disturbing. Well done Douglas.😊
@@SUPERPOWERCHINA_ 🤣
Douglas destroyed each of Cenk’s clueless comments.
in your dreams zionboy
Lol, your joking?
@@hunterkil1er342 why would I be joking. Douglas states the facts and provides a historical context.
@@stevenm2949more lies lies lies
Jesus, Murray is so full of shite
50,000 British civilians died during WWII. 500,000 German civilians died in WWII. Does "proportionality" mean England was at fault for WWII?
Only for israel
You forgot how many European and Soviet civilians died in that war.
Nazi's like 100 to 1 kill killer ratio for 1 solder to 100 non solders it happened in Holland and I'm sure several other place too. So are the Israelis a better meaning few then 100 killed per citizen or worst? Much of the recent activity by Israel is vengeance of uncontrolled rage. Yet they claim to hold the higher ground. Nope
False Equivalence. Germany and Great Britain didn't fight a 1v1 war plus Germany killed far more people than they lost during WWII.
This is not a war, its a genocide - big difference and uncomparable to the ww1 and ww2, the only comparison is that Nettenyahu is the new Hitler and IDF is the Nazi's
Douglas pure brilliance!!!!
you are the only one that wants to f**k him
Cenk does what he always does. He loses an argument and starts yelling.
Israel supporters typically behaviors is lying about the facts and blaming Hamma$ for the murders of 20+ thousand innocent people. Israel people have been saying for years (it is videotaped) , the second Nakba on the way. So please don’t come here and act like you know anything about the conflict in Palestine. Israel is committing gen_ocide same of that of the Nazi against Jews. For the record, it was not Muslims who killed the Jews, I was the Europeans in Spain , and Germany who started the massacre against minority Jews. Let me educate you because to me you sound very Low IQ, there are at least 8,000 Jews in Iran (which some of you view Iran as the extremist form of Islam) , there are at least 3,000 Jews in Morocco, there are about 10,000 Jews in the UAE. Btw Israel doesn’t represent Judaism , Israel is an oppressive authoritarian regime very similar to that of the Nazi Era. there are so many of our brothers and sisters of the Judaism faith who are actually fighting for the freedom of the Palestinians people and calling Israel for its horrific brutality against Palestinians. This guest called Douglas was just roll his eyes as the other guy was speaking which clearly shows he has lost the argument. So please just shush and go read a book maybe you will learn something.
He wasn't losing the argument. He started yelling because he got too emotional.
Whether he was losing the argument or not is debatable. My point is that, it isn't why he started yelling.
@@moonmonkeyboy2401 No, he was losing horribly, you are just a fellow deluded Jew hater.
@@moonmonkeyboy2401Douglas clowned this guy, Cenk was out of his depth.
Cenk got DESTROYED
Damn douglas has nothing but facts, Cenk on the other hand was just emotional opinions with no support to his emotional claims!
What's new?
So true
“The UN took a strong stand against apartheid; and over the years, an international consensus was built, which helped to bring an end to this iniquitous system. But we know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians.” ― Nelson Mandela
@@JohnFelinn freedom of Palestinians from what? From their own government (Hamas)? Then yes. They should set themselves free from it. No one else stops them from being free.
Douglas can´t even answer the questions properly. Instead he spins around it or attacks persona´s
Praying for everyone's safety across the globe especially Israel May the angels watch over all that are against evil
More like Douglas Murray exposes and destroys a thug and his irrational argumentation.
So normal Friday.
Douglas isn't destroyig anything kid, he is an idiot and an embarrassment
"Yeah yeah, because I'm muslim, that's what you call all muslims"
Right - the person advocating for 20,000 dead people is somehow a thug…
The world is sick fake news mongers like Don, pretending civilized, and denying the 75 years of genocide against the Palestinians.
Israel showed that it is capable of genocide but it never did anything like that. Gaza does not have bomb shelter. That says a lot.
Gaza tunnels deep in the ground wórk as bomb shelters. Don't forget Gazan voted Hamas to be their leader. I think Israel should take Gaza back and kick out all Palestinians. In biblical days the Palestinians were the Philistines. Goliath was the Philistine that King David slew.
Hey Cenk Israel will never be destroyed. God does not break his promises.
Cenk is good for one thing.... getting louder when he can't back up his mouth with facts.
I’ve always found Cenk to be fairly articulate for a full grown water buffalo.
@@jamesm3471Cenk is right ! Pisrahell and all of its zionist bitc..s need to get theire Heads out of theire a....s and come correct with facts ! Both of you need that 2
Only response to a war mongering cheering delude Doug !!
Murray is calm. Cenk is just a blowhard trying to win an argument by being as loud as they can.
a true dimwitted muslim
Only Israel is told how to fight a war and defend themselves. Ridiculous!
You sound stupid. It's called the rules of war.
Not true. The US has been repeatedly criticized regarding both their tactics in wars and their justification for them. This includes WWII actions against both the Japanese and the Germans despite the fact that no one questions the right of the US to prosecute those wars (the US didn't start either of them either formally or effectively).
The list of countries criticized for their behavior in wars, both justified and not, is a long one. It is absolutely not limited to Israel alone.
It's called the Geneva convention
@@Genarii but the Us also doesn't have any of it's war in the last 80 years taken place near it's border .
Not that I'm going to attack the Us over this fact but it is important to say that fact , and also The Us can pretty much do whatever it wants without being dependent or sanctioned by other countries .
Btw the majority of the people that are anti israel are also anti american and anti western as well , there are very few outliers that would be like ultra nationalists /neo nazis (the real ones) that would be both anti israel but also will want their own countries/other background to be superior.
@@richardcraig599 only that it's specifically used to delegitimaz e country like israel while barley if ever mentions : the palastinian terrorist groups, iran,syria ,yemen ,north korea,china , putin's russia , pakistan, chad ,congo , Venezuela etc...
There is only one country that gets over 140 condemnations on the Un in a period of 5 years while any other countries combined are less than half of that amount (around 50 total)
So there should be at the very 1000 for each of those countries(and other) if we have that extremely ridiculous number .
Classing Cenk Uygur as a "big brain" is like classing Burger King as a health food restaurant.
That's an insult to Burger King!😂
He is just a big meat head.
Cenk, you are just a big meat head.
I was just about to start typing in something soon as I heard him, say that, glad I’m not the only one who called Cap on that
If they dumped the bread rolls, fries and sugary sauces then it might be somewhere closer to being a health food restaurant. 😉
How can anyone call Cenk "Big brain" is beyond my understanding.
Douglas Murray coming in with facts
no quite..he even attacks Jews that speak out against the Nethanyau mad and genocidal tactics. For him everything is simple: no matter how many thousands IDF kills blame it all on Hamas. Dumb and Dumber
BS. Murray justifying a genocide.
What facts? He was shown to be a despicable vile human with no empathy or morality a truly evil man!
Which lol
What facts? He is full of bullshit
Well said Douglas Murray...facts versus manipulated fiction
facts?
Murray was such a smarmy cunt in this interview. You know he's paid or has been paid by Israeli agencies associated with its government, right?
Well said Sky Jews, everybody loves you
Facts like murray has business interests in the west bank?
@@gianthills what interests exactly? And if he does so what?
@@gianthills what interests?
Thank God for Douglas Murray!
Palestine isn't even a sovereign country and Israel is a sovereign country, so wouldn't that make Palestinians occupiers?
ding ding ding we have a winner.
Palestinians are Arabs who took a European name just for them to try and take owner ship of a land they are occupying.
How schools have failed in history,
Focused on certain subjects and times .
Leaving out 1917 / 1919 Europe England wrote in Balfour act giving Hebrew people a home in Palestine after WW2 1948 Europe sent migrants into Palestine by 1967 Israel newly created 1948 tolk the rest of Palestine and created mass refugee's in going to mass nations. Now the dog bit back to the owner that has been beating and kicking it his whole life .
Israel is decolonization
You are correct the Palestinians are the occupiers, the land of Israel is belong to the Jews. The Muslims Quran says to the Jews to enter their holly land and protect it.
You have no idea what you’re talking about, do you?
Describing Cenk Uygur as a "big brain" was the biggest laugh I've had in a long time. Thanks Piers.
Plutôt un très petit cerveau 😅😅😅
Cenk is just brainlessly virtue signaling, clearly he keeps ignoring the fact that the Palestinians are the ones that put Hamas there, and even to this day the majority still support them
@sivten4050 et toi tu as plutôt de la merde a la,place du cerveau
Gaza holocaust 😢
Cenk looks like a huge warthog. Douglas is intelligent, attractive, brave and outspoken. I love watching his Interviews. He is not afraid to confront the enemy.
This guy hit it out of the park. pure truth. Described the liberal malcontents too a tee.
Mind Begs the Question:
- Nazi Policies were Death Camps,Starvation,Pogroms,Gas Chambers,Ethnic Cleansing,etc
- If a Govt/Nation Policies are Death Camps,Starvation,Pogroms,White Phosphorus,Ethnic Cleansing,etc
- Democratic or Nazi?
List the truths he spoke about, I’ll wait. 🤣
@@Srfs777literally everything he said guy.. you must have a cenk like BIG BRAIN . 😅
@@Srfs777 Did you even watch the video? they were listed there in the video?
@@curragh4635 wait a minute, are you using Douglas’s Murray as a source of facts to prove your point? 🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 needed a good laugh this morning.
DOUGLAS IS THE BEST!!
We've always been taught to be tolerant to other people's religion but what happens when that religion is not tolerant of anything
True Judaism isn’t very tolerant.
@@Goobywoobygooluckily there aren't endless verses in the the old testament that demands jews to go slaughter non-jews in the name of jihad like it is the case with the death manual the Quran and hadiths.
@@Goobywoobygooit’s not a violent religion though, is it?
@@LoopyZimbo1971 It's the most violent of all religions.
@@ChameleonMD123 Personally I view Islam and Judaism as opposites. Islam is a pretty peaceful religion based on the revealed scripture of the Quran. But then there is the enormous wealth of traditions which build upon the revealed scripture in various ways often introducing more controversial ideas. Whereas Judaism is a pretty violent religion based on the revealed scripture of the Torah. But then there is the enormous wealth of tradition which build upon the revealed scripture in various ways often mitigating the more controversial ideas.
Did Chenk just resort to the “But I have Jewish friends” argument? I have been reasonably assured that argument is completely invalid. Great job as always Douglas Murray!
It’s not entirely irrelevant. Cenk founded his company with his Jewish friends and has family members who are Jewish. When you love and trust people from a group someone is attempting to say you hate because they’re part of that group, that information becomes relevant. It’s irrelevant in scenarios when someone says something blatantly racist and then tries to say they know someone who is that race, as a defense. You failed to understand the context in which it makes any sense. But that’s understandably a low IQ move on your part.
And he has an Armenian on a show that is named after the political party that conducted the Armenian genocide
They forgot to mention that the Palestinians declined every offer for a two state solutions, given by Israel.
Kind of a imbalance to offer the people ur stepping on a offer that isreal created without their input. How about u get off their necks and then talk.
Its like the slave masters offering a deal to the slaves he just whipped. How does that make sense? Free the ppl and then u can talk.
@@JevPrivatedont talk to ignorant idiots mate🤣
Lol. What a joke bro. They offer and they never did execute so naturally it was declined. Who wants to live in prison and someone taking your home. Be objective mate. Look at things objectively not subjectively
Blah blah bla. Do you even know what those offers were? Go read a bit and see whether those offers where fair or just pure injustice. Why on earth would any one refuse an offer to take their land back and stay under occupation, unless they were offered sh**t?
Giving back some of your loot is a pretty good offer..what is wrong with the Palestinians, right?
“Cenk Uyghur”? “Big brain”?? Bwahahahahahahaha!
I really dont understand why Piers keeps having Cenk on. No one in the USA considers him an intellectual or anything even close. He has a show with declining viewership and decided to run for president for attention to help get more viewers back. Its a waste of time to have Douglas Murray debate him.
you don't speak for everyone
I used to follow the young turks a few years ago. I stopped because I got tired of listening to continual impassioned outbursts without much meat.
Because two intelligent people debating is not as good as much as a smart person debating a dummy.
need to call stupids as big brain to make appear the liar as gaining the argument.
Over time more people have enjoyed Anna Casparian with better takes and analysis than her boss Chunky Yogurt
Douglas looks like he stepped away from dinner to chat for 20 minutes, Cenk looks like he was dreading this all week. These guys are in totally separate leagues and it really shows.
So a snobby asshole w an attitude excites you
Çenk simply barfs up tired Hamas talking points
Every time Chunk picks his nose his balls are happy to have a break.😂
Douglas couldn't stop mumbling to himself as Cenk spoke....children behave in such ways. Not men with real arguments!!!
@@paulmiville6113 All various points by Douglas were on spot but Cenk has only one thing to say "8000 children Died"... He should learn first about War and Casualities... Responsible is HAMAS who is hiding and staying in dense Gaza colonies... Israel gave 7 days for civilians to leave before they can bomb Hamas..but civilians chose to stay...
HAMAS rules Gaza. The killings are the responsibilities of HAMAS as Hamas could've ordered civilians to leave and evacuate the area...
Douglas is brilliant!! The truth prevails!!
Not according to the International Court.
@@tylerv.5713 they have no credibility