I absolutely love your explanations as you play through the game, it makes it so easy to follow, also so impressed with your game knowledge, helped clarify some rules for me while I was watching. Thank you!
This was on sale at Amazon so thought I'd give it a go as my introduction to Villainous, love how friendly yet not-patronising this playthrough was to watch. Now if only I can convince my friends and/or family to play so I don't end up relying on BGG's solo variants 😂
This playthrough was also my introduction to Villainous, and I thoroughly enjoyed Monique and Naveen's gameplay, as I always do. Consequently, I just bought the game on Amazon, but it won't be delivered until Dec. 14th. If you come to Japan around that time, I'll be more than happy to play the game with you. I'll supply the Scooby snacks, hamburgers, hot dogs, and chili. 😉
Hey guys, awesome play! I have a question. Why was Naveen choosing the dark side tokens to be moved during a fate against him? I thought it would be Monique that would choose as she was the one doing the fate.
Not sure Mace Windu was played correctly at @20:20. Card states that all allies 'at' Grevious sector are -1 strength. Grievous was at Florrum, not his lair, so they would only get those -1 Strengths if Windu was still in play and Grievous moved to his Lair. If Windu was to be defeated, then those -1 Strengths icons would not trigger. My understanding Windu's effects only apply to allies at 'same' location as to where Greviosu marker is.
I believe "sector" means the entire player board, whereas individual locations are referred to as "locations." The Mace Windu card states, "When Mace Windu is played, all Allies in General Grievous' Sector get -1 Strength," so unfortunately those allies were effected =/
I think there was a slight misplay the last time she played every word of what you just said was wrong. I think, correct me if I’m wrong, she should’ve been able to choose which destiny tokens got moved, because she’s the one who played the fate card.
Sorry, I'm not able to easily double check this right now, but what you're saying sounds correct - the wording of the effect details which player makes that adjustment.
Hi Bill, great question! In addition to playing cards that do this, any time Kylo Ren defeats a hero they move a Destiny token toward the Dark Side. Hope this helps!
I fated my cousin playing as Grievous with Kit Fitso, not realizing he has cards that can bring vanquished enemies back onto the board. Blast that 'Trained in the Jedi Arts' card lol
I just want to point out this: - Monique & Naveen(M&N) channel "be4 you play" - Rodney(R) channel "Watched it played" Technically M&N channel should be HOW TO PLAY & R channel should be PLAYTHROUGH. (base on channel title) BUT IT IS THE REVERSED. LOL🤣🤣🤣😂😂
Hi Rafi, thanks so much! The gameplays on Watch It Played are specifically for those games that Rodney has already made a tutorial video for. If not, and we have the opportunity to cover them, they'll go on Before You Play. I hope that makes sense!
Hey there, you'll find the tutorial video in the description of this video to check out the details. As an aside, was there a specific part in the video that you were referring to (ie. was there a point where you thought the Fate action was performed incorrectly? If you have a time stamp, we're happy to check).
@@WatchItPlayed 53:55 I personally would have thought that Monique would be the one to choose which tokens get moved. After all, then she could have forced two Dark-Side area Tokens to be Light-Side and neutral respectively, for a total of 3 non-dark. Instead of letting Naveen move the neutral to light and a dark to neutral for a total of 2 non-dark tokens.
In this version the person taking the fate action should make the decisions related to the fate card (unless an effect says otherwise). Around the 55 minute mark this accidentally wasn't done and we'll add a note in the Klingon subtitles. Sorry for any confusion!
Wow... that was an extremely thematic playthrough from both of you. Naveen/kylo being conflicted early on, then when he was mostly in the darkside BAM!! Luke shows up and kept Naveen teetering before finally succumbing fully to the darkside. And Monique foregoing her main goal in a desperate attempt to keep foiling Naveen. That's basically Grevious MO in the Clone Wars series iirc 😁
It's a new rule change for this specific version of the game. Specifically when revealing, you shuffle your corresponding discard pile back into your deck.
Question - Since Kylo is conflicted, do you get to choose his path at the very start? I would imagine choosing light would require different fate cards, but there seemed to be that option at the very beginning.
All six Destiny Tokens begin in the neutral area, and certain cards will either move Destiny Tokens toward the Dark Side or Light Side, or place them directly in a specific area.
@@WatchItPlayed I did some research, and I misunderstood what was said in the beginning. Kylo Ren’s objective is to always move the destiny counters to the dark side. I had thought there was an alternate winning objective to move all counters to the light side to be chosen by the player at the very beginning instead of moving counters to the dark side.
Another question: I’ve seen you play lots of euro style games but also games like this that are dripping with theme. Do you have a personal preference? Like when a new game hits the table, do you get more excited if you heard that it has really well crafted mechanics or more excited if you heard it has lots of theme? Maybe both?
We are both slightly split on that! I (Monique) enjoy a game more when it is dripping with theme and Naveen is a Euro gamer all the way haha. Theme is nice in his opinion, but not required. How about you? What is your preference?
@@BeforeYouPlay You know, I should have figured that would be the ways you guys are split on it, based on your top ranked games! Personally, I get the biggest “feel good” feelings when a game has tied its mechanics very tightly to theme, for a few reasons: 1) it’s so much easier to teach, 2) because it feels like the designer really put time into the research and thinking behind each decision in the game as it relates to the theme and theme is not just an afterthought and 3) it usually means that players don’t feel badly when stuff like “take that” happens or when things swing in crazy weird directions because ultimately, it’s theme coming though and telling wild stories! Like in Root, the Eyrie might just be attacking everyone, even a weak player, but they’ll say, “i have to! My leader demands it!” 😂
@@rafiweiss3915 That makes total sense! I agree, it tends to be easier to teach since you can easily explain the reasons for certain mechanics, and it also seems easier to remember that way. I also really like the "story" behind the actions like you mentioned in #3. Thanks so much for sharing!
Thanks for the playthrough folks. I’ve been on the fence about this one. I was a big fan of the Villainous games… until prospero hall left the development. This one looks better, but not enough to get me back on board. Most of recent goals are ‘get this many x to win’; while easier to balance, they’re no where near as thematic as Hades, Jafar or Dr Facilier for instance. Are there villains with more narrative goals? And if there’s a Palpatine from RoS, do you shuffle his goal from a big deck of random each turn? 😜
I absolutely love your explanations as you play through the game, it makes it so easy to follow, also so impressed with your game knowledge, helped clarify some rules for me while I was watching. Thank you!
This was such a great playthrough! This was the first time I've been tempted to get a Villanious game.
Thank you so much!
This was on sale at Amazon so thought I'd give it a go as my introduction to Villainous, love how friendly yet not-patronising this playthrough was to watch. Now if only I can convince my friends and/or family to play so I don't end up relying on BGG's solo variants 😂
I hope you find some others to enjoy it with!
This playthrough was also my introduction to Villainous, and I thoroughly enjoyed Monique and Naveen's gameplay, as I always do. Consequently, I just bought the game on Amazon, but it won't be delivered until Dec. 14th. If you come to Japan around that time, I'll be more than happy to play the game with you. I'll supply the Scooby snacks, hamburgers, hot dogs, and chili. 😉
@@vince5546 Deal!
Hey guys, awesome play! I have a question. Why was Naveen choosing the dark side tokens to be moved during a fate against him? I thought it would be Monique that would choose as she was the one doing the fate.
Yes, I think that was an oversight during the game play
navine stooged the last turn...very quick to move his tokens to his own advantage
Not sure Mace Windu was played correctly at @20:20. Card states that all allies 'at' Grevious sector are -1 strength. Grievous was at Florrum, not his lair, so they would only get those -1 Strengths if Windu was still in play and Grievous moved to his Lair. If Windu was to be defeated, then those -1 Strengths icons would not trigger. My understanding Windu's effects only apply to allies at 'same' location as to where Greviosu marker is.
I believe "sector" means the entire player board, whereas individual locations are referred to as "locations." The Mace Windu card states, "When Mace Windu is played, all Allies in General Grievous' Sector get -1 Strength," so unfortunately those allies were effected =/
@@BeforeYouPlay Okay. Good to note that locations/sectors are different.
Before You Play has it right in their reply!
I think there was a slight misplay the last time she played every word of what you just said was wrong. I think, correct me if I’m wrong, she should’ve been able to choose which destiny tokens got moved, because she’s the one who played the fate card.
Sorry, I'm not able to easily double check this right now, but what you're saying sounds correct - the wording of the effect details which player makes that adjustment.
Just curious. Why was the token moved to the dark side after vanquishing Luke? at 22:04 and 54:24
Hi Bill, great question! In addition to playing cards that do this, any time Kylo Ren defeats a hero they move a Destiny token toward the Dark Side. Hope this helps!
@@BeforeYouPlay Cool. Thanks for the help.
the beginning of naveen's cosplay career
IT BEGINS.
I fated my cousin playing as Grievous with Kit Fitso, not realizing he has cards that can bring vanquished enemies back onto the board. Blast that 'Trained in the Jedi Arts' card lol
A+ Thumbnail! Love your playthroughs.
Thank you so much!
Can i ask what happened to your Under Falling Skies video ? I can't find it on Watch it Played or Before you Play.
We had made an error that we deemed unacceptable so we took it down. We're debating making another one tho!
Would love be to see another game with different villains
Thanks for the interest!
Great video, looks really fun! I love Naveens shirt 🤩
Thank you!!
Topnotch playthrough, almost thought the General had a chance in the end :)
The General tried!! LOL. Thanks so much for watching!
I just want to point out this:
- Monique & Naveen(M&N) channel "be4 you play"
- Rodney(R) channel "Watched it played"
Technically M&N channel should be HOW TO PLAY & R channel should be PLAYTHROUGH. (base on channel title) BUT IT IS THE REVERSED. LOL🤣🤣🤣😂😂
LOL!
Thanks for the gameplay! Great video! I’m curious, how do you decide which channel to put a gameplay on? Before you play vs watch it played?
Hi Rafi, thanks so much! The gameplays on Watch It Played are specifically for those games that Rodney has already made a tutorial video for. If not, and we have the opportunity to cover them, they'll go on Before You Play. I hope that makes sense!
Are the fating rules different in this version? In the Disney version the opponent controls what happens with the fate action.
Hey there, you'll find the tutorial video in the description of this video to check out the details. As an aside, was there a specific part in the video that you were referring to (ie. was there a point where you thought the Fate action was performed incorrectly? If you have a time stamp, we're happy to check).
@@WatchItPlayed 53:55 I personally would have thought that Monique would be the one to choose which tokens get moved. After all, then she could have forced two Dark-Side area Tokens to be Light-Side and neutral respectively, for a total of 3 non-dark. Instead of letting Naveen move the neutral to light and a dark to neutral for a total of 2 non-dark tokens.
@@WatchItPlayed Johannes' comment is what I was referring to
In this version the person taking the fate action should make the decisions related to the fate card (unless an effect says otherwise). Around the 55 minute mark this accidentally wasn't done and we'll add a note in the Klingon subtitles. Sorry for any confusion!
@@WatchItPlayed Thanks for taking the time to respond
Wow... that was an extremely thematic playthrough from both of you. Naveen/kylo being conflicted early on, then when he was mostly in the darkside BAM!! Luke shows up and kept Naveen teetering before finally succumbing fully to the darkside.
And Monique foregoing her main goal in a desperate attempt to keep foiling Naveen. That's basically Grevious MO in the Clone Wars series iirc 😁
Haha that's a great observation! Didn't realize it until now!
Do you always shuffle your deck after revealing? I just leave those cards in the discard pile and reshuffle them again once the deck is empty.
It's a new rule change for this specific version of the game. Specifically when revealing, you shuffle your corresponding discard pile back into your deck.
@@BeforeYouPlay I thought you just shuffle your revealed cards back into your deck
You guys just keep getting even better! Thanks! I cannot wait to play this #TheForceIsStrong
So glad you enjoyed - thanks for the kind comment.
Question - Since Kylo is conflicted, do you get to choose his path at the very start? I would imagine choosing light would require different fate cards, but there seemed to be that option at the very beginning.
All six Destiny Tokens begin in the neutral area, and certain cards will either move Destiny Tokens toward the Dark Side or Light Side, or place them directly in a specific area.
@@WatchItPlayed I did some research, and I misunderstood what was said in the beginning. Kylo Ren’s objective is to always move the destiny counters to the dark side. I had thought there was an alternate winning objective to move all counters to the light side to be chosen by the player at the very beginning instead of moving counters to the dark side.
If only you she had gotten Rey at the end she would have moved all tokens to the light side
Another question: I’ve seen you play lots of euro style games but also games like this that are dripping with theme. Do you have a personal preference? Like when a new game hits the table, do you get more excited if you heard that it has really well crafted mechanics or more excited if you heard it has lots of theme? Maybe both?
We are both slightly split on that! I (Monique) enjoy a game more when it is dripping with theme and Naveen is a Euro gamer all the way haha. Theme is nice in his opinion, but not required. How about you? What is your preference?
@@BeforeYouPlay You know, I should have figured that would be the ways you guys are split on it, based on your top ranked games!
Personally, I get the biggest “feel good” feelings when a game has tied its mechanics very tightly to theme, for a few reasons:
1) it’s so much easier to teach,
2) because it feels like the designer really put time into the research and thinking behind each decision in the game as it relates to the theme and theme is not just an afterthought and
3) it usually means that players don’t feel badly when stuff like “take that” happens or when things swing in crazy weird directions because ultimately, it’s theme coming though and telling wild stories! Like in Root, the Eyrie might just be attacking everyone, even a weak player, but they’ll say, “i have to! My leader demands it!” 😂
@@rafiweiss3915 That makes total sense! I agree, it tends to be easier to teach since you can easily explain the reasons for certain mechanics, and it also seems easier to remember that way. I also really like the "story" behind the actions like you mentioned in #3. Thanks so much for sharing!
The Villainous franchise is my favorite so thank you for another Villainous playthrough
Thank you for watching!
Love the t-shirt!
Looks cool! I hope they translate it soon! :P
Hope so too!
I love this game
Hi love the villainous games
Glad you've been enjoying!
Is it just me, or is this game heavier than its purported 1.5 BGG weight?
I don't really assess games by the BGG weight scale, so hard for me to speak to that. -Rodney
Weird to not have Palpatine, but cool to see Asajj and Moff Gideon.
They're probably going to have him and Maul in the first expansion.
@@StriderZessei Darth Sidious,Count Douku and Boba Fett are included in the expansion. I've got a friend testing the product 😊
@@AXRISTEROS sure, and my uncle works at Nintendo.
Thanks for the playthrough folks. I’ve been on the fence about this one. I was a big fan of the Villainous games… until prospero hall left the development. This one looks better, but not enough to get me back on board. Most of recent goals are ‘get this many x to win’; while easier to balance, they’re no where near as thematic as Hades, Jafar or Dr Facilier for instance. Are there villains with more narrative goals? And if there’s a Palpatine from RoS, do you shuffle his goal from a big deck of random each turn? 😜
Ha!
Great playthrough, but so disappointed that none of you went with the greatest Star Wars villain of all time....Darth Vader.
But also fun to go with something less expected?
@@WatchItPlayed True. Despite my love of Star Wars, I do still prefer Villainous in it's original Disney form.
I've seen a LOT of people do the lightsaber pose. This thumbnail makes the rest look like microwaved dog crap. Excellent!!!
haha thank you!!!
How Dare You.