Cox Models Control Line "Spitfire" Flying at the "Vintage Model Aviation Celebration"
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2022
- On a beautiful Sunday in Illinois, during the Vintage Model Aviation Celebration, hosted by the Sentral Illinois Radio Society, Contest Director, Jerry Worden flys his 1960's Cox "Spitfire" on 35ft of line.
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Fantastic. I got a Cox C/L Spitfire for my 11th birthday in 1972. My dad let me skip school, and we went to the local park to fly it. I crashed it of course, and broke the wing. After dad bought a replacement wing I persevered with a friend over the next couple of weeks until we mastered flying it. We both went on to build and fly balsa C/L models well into our teens until we got into R/C. I've been flying models ever since my first Cox Spitfire over 50 years ago 😁
According to my long gone dad who used to fly them, the Spitfire was always a difficult bugger to handle on the ground. Cox models authentic to the last.
I had one of these back in the 70s bought it from Heene Models in Worthing !! Man I loved it ! Had this and Cox Sopwith Camel , fantastic ! Thanks for posting really enjoyed !!!!!
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In the early 70s my father, an experienced control line flier, got us that Cox Spitfire... and we never got a good flight out of it. She always wanted to climb, even with full down elevator, and extra weight in the nose! One flight with it at partial throttle was passable until it ran out of gas, went lean, and went to full rpm and went vertical again! We couldn't be the only people that had such an experience...
Yeah, I don't have any experience with them, other than watching Jerry fly his, but I always thought they'd be good flying plane....with all that wing area.
Sort of watching for a flyable example to show up on Ebay, Maybe get to check it out myself some day.
Thank you for your comment,
Kim
My brother got one for Christmas 1976 and flew it a little. I remember it was hard to start. He sold it to my best friend, who only did one circle with it before crashing and destroying it. We had to sweep up the pieces. 🤣
My first gas powered model airplane was a Cox Spitfire. Birthday gift in 1967. Not a good trainer. Crashed it first flight. But hooked for life. Still flying and competing in control line Stunt 55 years later.
Great Memory flying those, P40 was touchy to fly as well…. Too be 12 again. 🤗
Yeah, I count myself lucky to have grown up in this era, and VERY lucky to have had an adult help me learn to fly these great little planes.
The Cox P-40 figured large in out little group of flyers back in the day, and I've currently got a fairly rough example waiting for its flight. There will be a video when that event takes place.
Thank you for your comment,
Kim
A well earned thumbs up Gentlemen, taking us all back to a time when kids went outside in the sunshine and learned a little about combustion and aeronautics. That's a nice example of an early Cox Spitfire in dark green which I have only owned one and regret that I sold it. I do have a nice light green version that still hangs in my collection. Thank you for posting this video ps. that Spitfire needs some work.
Hey Alan,
We had a great time with the SIRS Club, and this was the 1st time I'd personally seen a Cox Spitfire in flight.
I think Jerry has since gotten its landing gear repaired and the 'Spit is ready again for action.
Thanks for your comment!
Kim
I had one back in the late 60s. It was pretty heavy but I flew the heck out of that thing!
I learned to fly on that exact model over fifty years ago! LOL Good memories!
Me too!
Nací en el año 1956 después de mucho sacrificio pude tener mí COX !!! Todavía lo conservo ,hace mucho que no lo vuelo!!! Pero lo voy acondicionar para volarlo!!!! Un Saludo desde Argentina!!!!!
That's great! Good Luck with your engine!
You might like this forum...lots of great people:
www.coxengineforum.com/
Thank you for your comment,
Kim
@@Winter_Sportster Muchas Gracias!!!!!
This takes me back to being a kid. I had a Cox PT109 Trainer and my friend had a Cox P39 Aircobra. That sound is so familiar.
Had one of those Cox line control spitfires but only ever saw it in crash position and never in flight ! 🙂👍
I'd only seen an original a couple years ago, though it wasn't gonna be flown.
I'd suspected that it'd be a good flyer (as far as being a plastic RTF) because of its generous wing area...somewhat like the PT-19.
Jerry's sSpitfire had some landing gear problems, but looked great once he got it in the air.
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@@Winter_Sportster The flight seemed to be using the standard 15% nitro fuel and showed a lot of potential. If it were bumped to say 25% and a more optimal prop, I think it could really shine, just saying.😁
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Yeah, Jerry was running the original 3-blade "scale-like" prop, and it was damaged by landing gear problems he had with the Spit.
True, gray 5x3 prop and some spicy fuel would wake it up! Hopefully, we'll give it a shot this year.
I've never had a Spitfire, then or now, but Jerry's has piqued my interest. The things are silly-expensive, but I might bust the budget at some point to get a flyable example!
Thank you for your comment!!!!!
I had a Cox Spitfire back in the 70’s. Difficult to fly.
I loved flying them back in the 60s
I had the spitfire watching this reminded me how hard it was to fly lol it was hard on fingers to haha😂
I can still feel my little fingers hit by the perpellar dripping in stinky gas and burnt and aching. 50 years ago
I started with a cox PT-19 which flew pretty good.
I got a P-40 a year later that barely flew and broke a wing after just a couple of landings.
You had to order spare parts and kids just don't have the desire to spend so much money on something that might only last a couple of minutes so it was never to fly again.
I moved on to a balsa baby ringmaster which really performed compared to the plastic cox airplanes.
Had a Cox Curtiss A25 Dive Bomber in the early 70's. Motor never ran for more than a few seconds no matter what we tried. One day whilst trying to get it to start it caught fire and melted the whole nose. That was the end of it.
I never cared for the COX plastic planes. My favorite was the Carl Goldberg Stuntman 23. I went through 4 of them in the mid 1970s and then scratch-built a fifth from memory in 1992. Great flyer with a golden bee, a diamond in the sky with a Tee Dee.
The only COX plane I ever owned was the Messerschmidt Stunt plane with sky-blue foam wings and black plastic fuselage. Flew OK but felt a lot heavier than the balsa kit planes.
I had the Cox Sopwith Camel. It flew exactly once.
Brilliant, thanks for posting these clips, great memories for me - I am so jealous, have fun guys.
You're welcome David!
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Awesome! Thank you for posting this!
Do a victory roll!😉
Very very nice !
Outstanding!
I bought my two sons a Cox P51 for each of them back in the 80's. They were both a bit young really but we did have some fun as they watched me do the flying. I have to say though that like this video there never was a smooth landing once the fuel tank was empty, and it would take me days to get over the nausea feeling from being so dizzy as they do fly fast in such a tight circle.
Yeah, Cox Models fudged a lot on the wing area of several of their "scale" planes---the PT-19 and P-40 are good examples, and maybe a bit with their Stuka.
All three of the latter had pretty good glides after their engines quit, but I always joked that when the Mustang's engine quit, you better have the wheels an inch off the pavement!
We went through a few Mustangs back in the day, and couldn't get any flair at touch down, no matter how we dived them to pick up airspeed.
The one I owned at the time had its gear struts cut off, with launching by a careful toss. This allowed a SLIGHTLY less violent arrival in the ball field grass, but still with little flair.
Not sure what your line length was, but we typically flew on 30-35 feet of dacron, and have pretty much switched to braided Spiderwire fishing line these days
I'd like to see how Jerry's Spitfire does once the landing gear is fixed.
Than you for your comment!
Kim
Hi there: We just flew our Cox models with the line and handle provided in the box, I doubt they would have been any longer than 15 feet. One Mustang got written off before the new year as they were xmas prezzies, that wreck provided spare parts needed for the other for years after. We only ever flew them in longer grass after the first one crashed.@@Winter_Sportster
need to tune them rich on the ground to lean up just right in the air
Makes me wonder if i should fly mine. looks pretty hard to fly.
I had one of the first ones back in either 1964 or 1965, with the then new (or fairly new) Cox .049 Silver Bee, with then revolutionary pre-Black Widow dual intake bypass cylinder, all aluminum 8cc tank without stunt vents, and a Babe Bee like tank back with dual fueling nipples. Was his this or perhaps of the last with non-tank postage stamp or shoeshoe back engine?
Nonetheless, nice, may be needed to give some up elevator to raise nose until sufficient airspeed for ROG takeoff? Hand launch showed it could still do it, thanks for recording and sharing.
Hey!
Yeah, his landing gear had some damage that dropped the fuse down to the pavement. After a couple of ROG attempts, Leo decided to give it a hand launch.
I never had a Spitfire, but they looked to be a good flyer with all that wing area and a good engine!
I worked all summer to buy one on layby. It never got airborne…😢
All these things ever did for me was threaten my fingers and make me dizzy.