As an “inSomnia” since Minx days, it does indeed suck that their first win was stolen but I firmly believe....1) a win is coming & 2) it actually created an even deeper bond between the girls & their fans!
And what happend with their recent comeback? They removed the voting for international fans just to bring it back a few days after dreamcatcher's promotion ended. I cant describe how much i hate the show... I've never hated something more in my life than them. I get so mad everytime i watch this part of the video. honestly i hope they get their first win on another show. The Show don't deserve dreamcatcher
@@sxtloml5477 omg don't remind me pls I'm gonna cry fr. and the way yoohyeon tried to encourage us after we lost and told us not to be sad... I'm devastated 💔
I really believe in Dreamcatcher and i think the Dystopia Series brought them a lot of hype. Their Views are way higher then their Mvs in the Nightmare Series and i still firmly believe in Dreamcatcher. They have an extrem loyal and one of the kindest Fanbases in Kpop and i know that they know that.
It's insane because people still have the audacity to say that Dreamcatcher is not an underrated group. Compared to some really unknown groups, DC is on another level, yes. But every single time they are shut down by the korean entertainment industry. You'd think with their impressive feats so far and international popularity that they'd be awarded more opportunities like variety show appearances, advertisement deals, etc but they're not. It took them this year with this Odd Eye comeback to finally get their own episode on Weekly Idol. A show that frequently brings on very unknown groups to have their own full episode or complete unknown rookies with their own episodes and yet DC an almost 4 year old group not having one until now., They've been on Weekly Idol before but both times they had to share the episode with another group and one of them was for barely 10 minutes or so. You can't help as a DC fan to think that the industry is really trying hard to suppress their growth and popularity domestically in Korea. As much as their international strength and popularity is, it's nothing compared to what is necessary for them to break out in their own country.
To me, 'underrated' means: 'using something that a group is known for to discount talent and skills' (eg: Stellar - 4 extremely talented ladies that didn't break a sweat when audio glitched and they continued singing Marionette live and still performing choreography which had a lot of squatting/raises that are difficult to breathe through and they pulled it off with harmonies too. But what does everyone know about them? The 'sexual' concept they were forced into with Marionette and Vibrato and that was used to completely discount their skills and talents.) - I'm sure some do underrate Dreamcatcher. However, so many new reactors and new fans from both Korea and international sides, from just the Dystopia era were like 'well I don't know about them/haven't heard about them' and even if the song or the group isn't to someone's taste, they do *not* discount the talent and skill it took to perform it. I would argue that Dreamcatcher is more 'under-discovered' than 'underrated' using the way I understand the word. A lot of this lack of acknowledgement is also due to the fact that Dreamcatcher is a girl group which is already an uphill battle for popularity. A lot of boy groups who are kind of in the same boat (rather popular internationally or have a very small domestic fanbase) do get the invites faster, and even without wins. (Though that is also possibly due to money talking - Oneus has been on Weekly Idol multiple times. They're under RBW, which is Mamamoo's company. Mamamoo is hugely popular in Korea and RBW has enough cash to push for their groups to be invited to shows. This is something of the nature of the industry.) It's just a rather unfortunate aspect of the industry as a whole. However, as more and more of the 2nd/3rd gen boy group members come back from the military (where they've been exposed to songs that they may not have heard in their idol career - even if you tried, there is no way you can listen to every group, especially with the crazy schedules idols have) they can start to push or mention these smaller groups.
@@aislin2989 Hmm, I understand what you're saying and I can see why you interpreted it that way. Underrated simply means that to the general audience, something is not appreciated or not valued enough; like taking something for granted. I think what you may be referring to is, Stellar is simply under-utilized or their company simply wasted their potential/skills. They have a level of talent but they were not able to do anything with it because their company didn't push them in that direction. I don't think underrated is the most appropriate term to use for your analogy, it's kind of a different concept or train of thought. The difference mainly being, Dreamcatcher has been allowed to show their full potential but the general public still doesn't react or value it as much as you would think they should; thus they are underrated. I agree with all of your sentiments otherwise. I thought the Stellar members were fantastic so I agree with you, it's just sad how their company forced them down that terrible path.
Not really. We had way to little digital points which only Koreans can help with. The only way internationals can help is if they have a korean phone number or streaming on the Bugs app. That's it. Golden Child won 'cause of digital sadly ☹
@@Tranitosaur Well we could've helped but THE SHOW changed the voting system right before they went on it and they also changed it back after the promotions ended like WTF KIND OF BS IS THAT?! I HATE THE TRASHBAG THAT'S CALLED "THE SHOW"
@@SimpinKevin Even the whole 5% of international pre-voting wouldn't have pushed Dreamcatcher to the win. GolCha had the win purely from digitals and physicals (considering their release was a few days ahead of Dreamcatcher's). This is sadly something that's baked into the entire industry - even low/mid-tier boy groups will absolutely crush every girl group that isn't the biggest on digitals barring a huge stroke of luck (Exid's Up & Down, Brave Girls' Rollin') or an intensely popular song. GolCha also has a large domestic fanbase - they do have some name power being from Woollim (who has a deal with SME - hello Big3 money) which is also home to Lovelyz and to Infinite. Please chill out about that rule switch that was reverted. It's not the first time I've seen this happen and it won't be the last.
@@aislin2989 Exactly, I saw some Korean reactors reacting to Boca and Odd Eye... They were totally unaware of who Dreamcatcher were... I'm not expecting every single person in Korea to know them, but for people who run a Kpop reaction channel on RUclips? Please... But hopefully, with the increase attention they got from Odd Eye (and their physical sales blew the roof), maybe there will be more Korean attention for the next comeback...
It’s okay now guys during dystopia era we sold a ton of albums scream 60k, Boca 103k & odd eye 120k. Eventually we will get a win don’t worry timing is everything hopefully we stop running into boy group when we get nominated.
Nice reaction. Dreamcatcher has done 3 world tours, visiting North and South America, Europe, Oceania and Asia. Cities visited Buenos Aires (Argentina), Santiago (Chile), Lima (Peru), Bogotá (Colombia), Panama (Panama), Taipei (Taiwan), Tokyo and Kobe (Japan), Singapore City (Singapore), Manila (Philippines) , Seoul (Korea), Melbourne (Australia) canceled due to fire, Sydney (Australia), Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia), London (UK), Milan (Italy), Berlin (Germany), Warsaw (Poland), Paris (France), Amsterdam (Netherlands), Helsinki (Finland), LA, Chicago, Dallas, Orlando and Jersey City (USA). Also during 2020 they did two online concerts due to the pandemic and the second of them, "7 spirits", was with a live band. This month will be another online concert with live band in 2 nights, first night acoustics (26/03) and the second rock (27/03) Thanks for the reaction.
To add on, that is quite an achievement and if I am not wrong, they are the first GG from the 3rd - 4th generation to actually have a tour that comprises of S.America, America, Europe, Asia and Australia. Although the venue they perform at cant compare in size to the bigger groups which have sell out stadiums but touring so many countries promoting their music is again something bold and unconventional, pointing again to the water they are drinking at Happyface Ent.
Thanks for reacting to my fave guide, although quite frustrating and heartbreaking. I know I'm biased but I don't know of any other kpop group who has consistently put out so much top tier content for this long, toured worldwide more than most, and have done almost everything they can so far, YET still have relatively little recognition and popularity in Korea compared to their peers (and what they deserve). But Dreamcatcher and InSomnia soldier on because that's what we do. Hwaiting!
I don't know how many times I've watched this video and still keeps getting me emotional 😭😭.. But thanks to this video, it actually strengthen my support and love for them. Glad you watch and react to it. Also, they've just dropped a dance video Odd Eye Dystopia version.. so, would be nice if you make some time to react to it. It's a reward for 20mil views, as they promised us.. 😏😏😏
Thanks for your reactions !! As a somnia since debut that day of their "stolen win" is still the worst day ever I had experienced in these 4 years.. can't imagine how the girls must have felt 😔 honestly I don't want to believe in music shows or other companies plotting against them but it's just too much coincidence every damn time they are close to get their 1st win, something has to happen with the yt views, changes on the voting apps, and everything.. It's just so weird... Well i should not think too much on that, maybe they really are just coincidences but well, I really wish and hope Dreamcatcher get their well deserved win soon 😊
Yes, I agree, there is no conspiracy against them, they just happen to be at the right place at the wrong time. Like Deja Vu, if BTS hadn't drop their album at that moment, they would have a chance in the second week. As with the Everglow fiasco, of course, it's nothing to do with the Everglow girls, burt with their agency, YueHua. That Chinese company has ties with SM and were vocal about their willingness to invest in the Korean market... So Everglow's win would be a nice gesture towards the agency, and SM would also appreciate the help shown to their Chinese partner...
Everglow's company Yuehua Ent is as massively wealthy as any of the big Korean companies but the funds for the Korean subsidiary agency are based in China so people don't usually count them as one of the richest in Korea. Yuehua has also been known to "buy" their way into entertainment markets in China (Produce 101, Youth with You, Rocket Girls , UNINE etc) .....allegedly. Also, with their idols for Produce X (X1) in Korea... proven. And I know this is sensitive for some, but also the mysterious late jump in rank for Yena to debut in Izone (PD48, also proven to have vote manipulation). I'm not saying they bought Everglow their first win... BUT i'm also not NOT saying it. Hmmmm ~~~~~~~~
Two producers from Produce 101 and Produce 48 are currently serving jail sentences for fraud because of vote rigging on those shows and 6 other staff members received large fines. The debut of Iz*One was delayed because the lineup of the group had been decided before the final vote. I have no faith in music show results because the voting process is dishonest, since anyone can buy votes by using the voting apps owned by the broadcasters. Winning means having the most fans willing to buy votes. The quality of the music really doesn't matter.
Exactly, also, I'm sure it's just a coincidence that Yuehua has ties with one of the big 3 Korean agency and that they had made it known they were interested in some sort of Korean investment deal around that time (i.e. they were willing to spend money in Korea)... Yeah, just a coincidence...
You gotta react to LOONA!!! Alot of reactors either liked Loona first then DC or DC first then LOONA- For starters watch: -The Avengers of Kpop: A Story of LOONA -The Inconstant Moon A History of LOONA(by Mera) -The 4 current title tracks ( Hi-High, Butterfly, So What, Why Not? ) + Star MV (eng ver of Voice) - ALL LOONA SOLOs & SUB-UNIT SONGS (pre-debut)
I'm hopeful that their popularity in Korean is on the rise and that's what we need to get them a first win. They've been on more shows during Odd Eye promotions and the even had a morning news show do a piece on them. Maybe next comeback!...
@@aislin2989 i know that but there is a lot YG stans i dont want to get fire for "just because", YG probably get mad at Happyface when they lawsuit them 'cause of Mixnine thing, and now they are making everything to not gave dreamcatcher their win.
Your smile when chase me came, girl sameeeeeee!!!!! And will add up to that rigged show, we InSomnia came to a conclusion that all of this happenings against their popularity domestically is bcos of yg, hfe file a lawsuit against them and it seems like yg paid them for it but revenge after. Well this just speculation but money can buy that and yg basically has more of that. I can't wait for the time to get him on jail for whatever reason bcos he's a living monster. Try analyzing scream era, some said izone resched their cb that time that made DC have to go against them. -have no against izone (I love the girls) Try analyzing boca era, the show stopped broadcasting for two weeks just exactly the day DC would've THE BIGGER CHANCE to win, and their reason is bcos some of their staff got contact w a covid positive. -(it's something soooo fishy for us) Try analyzing Odd Eye era, the group they'll be going against for some of music show got a proper domestic support compared to DC BUT it's still soooo fishy how that group stayed so well on digital platform when they struggled so much for their last cb. (I will not elaborate this much bcos I know this is just a rumor but thinking how you can actually manipulate korean chart using money) After all this battle for first win became our bridge to always do better and unite as one and along with this we didn't expect that we will achieve more because of this. -still hoping mera will do part II for the dystopia series and when they finally get their first win. (sorry for my grammar, english is not my native language)
Dreamcatcher is out of the conventional this is most likely the reason why theres is always somenthing against them. DC has a lot of international support but back in Korea things are different they prefer other kinds of groups. Its very shady how thing went down everytime DC get an oportunity for a first win. This is just my opinion, I like Everglow, got nothing against them i think they are very talented, funny, crackheads i love them its a great group but men they were a rockie group against DC with one of the top songs and performance. Even with DUN DUN or their recent comeback they got not chance against Deja Vu. The fact that Everglow's Company is very weird and had a history of doing shady stuff plus the alleged shaved numbers and stats is not crazy to say they stole DC first win. Odd Eye is maybe the best song from DC and again youtube numbers were shave and add back only when the whole thing was over. These is what I'm afraid of, DC its getting more support but everytime they comeback there is at least 50% chance that shady stuff will happen and other groups will edge them for a few points. Theres no doubt they are gonna make great music, but getting a first win on these shows in the end like it or not is never gonna be easy for a group out of the conventional kpop sound if its not one of the big 3 group or fuckin BTS men i mean lets be honest doesnt matter even if BTS do a worst comeback than other groups they have golden pass to get the win bro thats how much influence and support they have. These shows are around controversial and things that happen behind doors, bc of the impact that the winning group gets on the market and public, its not surprising large companies wants their groups to win under any cost after all number$ its part of the music industry and this is why these shows sometimes dont really care about music or performance. So being realistic I dont expect DC to get a win in the near future for the way these shows are manage or maybe after a few more times finally they will give them one at least. All i know for sure I'll keep supporting them and listen to their great music
Hey! So, there's going to be a LOT of angry comments directed at The Show, as is usual whenever there's a reaction to this video. While, what The Show did back in 2019 was shady af, and we all hate them for it... We still don't have definitive proof for more recent stuff. Like The Show being canceled for covid during DC's first week of Boca promotions (when they're at their highest chance of winning), or just removing international votes for this past comeback. Honestly, a lot of these may very well be coincidence, and we should hold our thoughts until we get a couple more comebacks before saying anything. A lot of us Somnies tend to jump the gun when it comes to anything even remotely close to this kind of stuff. Like this past comeback, YT had froze views for Odd Eye, and the views really picked up and got counted after promotions were over, but that event has nothing to do with the music shows, and we wouldn't even had beaten Golden Child even with the updated views. People just need an outlet to blame or vent. That being said, while it IS a shame that DC doesn't have a first win yet, their popularity is still on an upward trend, and it doesn't seem like it'll stop anytime soon. They're finally getting on more and more variety shows, and their album sales are only going up. DC also pulls a good amount of money from their tours and concerts. While DC doesn't have the funding of some other groups, they're doing quite well financially, so they're not going anywhere anytime soon. At this point, a first win isn't as a priority as it was over a year ago. DC themselves have stated multiple times that they don't want us to apologize for a lack of a first win, and that they don't want us to be sad. So it seems that at this point, the first win is a little more of a bonus to appease fans. With the continual upward swing of popularity, it's only going to be inevitable that DC will get their first win. It's just a matter of time. We just need to stop expecting it every comeback, and simply cheer our girls on.
I don't think many of us are "expecting" it and we need a win for our own appeasement? Most of us want a music show win to make our girls feel successful. Somnies don't want a win as a trophy for the fandom, we want a win for the girls, to show them our thanks and appreciation for all their hard work they do for us. They mention on vlives and variety shows how they want their first win so we try to make them happy (like they do for us)... we're not trying to win it for ourselves.
@@klicclak yeah, I know that, I’m just tryna say that it’s not as big as a priority than before... it just gotten to the point where people are spamming “DREAMCATCHER FIRST WIN” when other groups are on stage. And idk man, every comeback we say this is it, it’s the first win, then we get disappointed and lash out when we don’t get it. Just want to temper expectations for future comebacks. We should still be voting and streaming to get them the win ofc tho
@@808nemesis6 Agree that a win is not important to their commercial success at this point (in fact, I in the camp that it never was important other than validation for the fans , the artist and the company for the effort they put in making the music that we all love). As for The Show, I do agree that the recent accusations are unfair but oh well, unfair or not, they deserve whatever shade just for what they did in 2019.
Watching this video is definitely a rite pf passage for Somnies. You'll never look at them the same way again and the bond becomes complete.
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As an “inSomnia” since Minx days, it does indeed suck that their first win was stolen but I firmly believe....1) a win is coming & 2) it actually created an even deeper bond between the girls & their fans!
As an InSomnia since Minx I agree with everything
I agree what you said and love Dreamcatcher so much.
instablaster...
From 2.5k copies sold as Minx to 100k sold in 1.5 months with Odd Eye! Innovative queens!
And what happend with their recent comeback? They removed the voting for international fans just to bring it back a few days after dreamcatcher's promotion ended. I cant describe how much i hate the show... I've never hated something more in my life than them. I get so mad everytime i watch this part of the video. honestly i hope they get their first win on another show. The Show don't deserve dreamcatcher
I really really hate the show so much that I can't even explain it into words.
@@sxtloml5477 same... the english vocabulary does not include enough words to describe our hate
@@maggiefixx I just imagine everytime that we came close, the girls are heartbroken and they even wish for a win this comeback but... None
I don't get my hopes up for The Show anymore. I just know it's not going to happen
@@sxtloml5477 omg don't remind me pls I'm gonna cry fr. and the way yoohyeon tried to encourage us after we lost and told us not to be sad... I'm devastated 💔
I really believe in Dreamcatcher and i think the Dystopia Series brought them a lot of hype. Their Views are way higher then their Mvs in the Nightmare Series and i still firmly believe in Dreamcatcher. They have an extrem loyal and one of the kindest Fanbases in Kpop and i know that they know that.
It's insane because people still have the audacity to say that Dreamcatcher is not an underrated group. Compared to some really unknown groups, DC is on another level, yes. But every single time they are shut down by the korean entertainment industry. You'd think with their impressive feats so far and international popularity that they'd be awarded more opportunities like variety show appearances, advertisement deals, etc but they're not. It took them this year with this Odd Eye comeback to finally get their own episode on Weekly Idol. A show that frequently brings on very unknown groups to have their own full episode or complete unknown rookies with their own episodes and yet DC an almost 4 year old group not having one until now., They've been on Weekly Idol before but both times they had to share the episode with another group and one of them was for barely 10 minutes or so. You can't help as a DC fan to think that the industry is really trying hard to suppress their growth and popularity domestically in Korea. As much as their international strength and popularity is, it's nothing compared to what is necessary for them to break out in their own country.
To me, 'underrated' means: 'using something that a group is known for to discount talent and skills' (eg: Stellar - 4 extremely talented ladies that didn't break a sweat when audio glitched and they continued singing Marionette live and still performing choreography which had a lot of squatting/raises that are difficult to breathe through and they pulled it off with harmonies too. But what does everyone know about them? The 'sexual' concept they were forced into with Marionette and Vibrato and that was used to completely discount their skills and talents.) - I'm sure some do underrate Dreamcatcher. However, so many new reactors and new fans from both Korea and international sides, from just the Dystopia era were like 'well I don't know about them/haven't heard about them' and even if the song or the group isn't to someone's taste, they do *not* discount the talent and skill it took to perform it. I would argue that Dreamcatcher is more 'under-discovered' than 'underrated' using the way I understand the word.
A lot of this lack of acknowledgement is also due to the fact that Dreamcatcher is a girl group which is already an uphill battle for popularity. A lot of boy groups who are kind of in the same boat (rather popular internationally or have a very small domestic fanbase) do get the invites faster, and even without wins. (Though that is also possibly due to money talking - Oneus has been on Weekly Idol multiple times. They're under RBW, which is Mamamoo's company. Mamamoo is hugely popular in Korea and RBW has enough cash to push for their groups to be invited to shows. This is something of the nature of the industry.) It's just a rather unfortunate aspect of the industry as a whole. However, as more and more of the 2nd/3rd gen boy group members come back from the military (where they've been exposed to songs that they may not have heard in their idol career - even if you tried, there is no way you can listen to every group, especially with the crazy schedules idols have) they can start to push or mention these smaller groups.
@@aislin2989 Hmm, I understand what you're saying and I can see why you interpreted it that way. Underrated simply means that to the general audience, something is not appreciated or not valued enough; like taking something for granted. I think what you may be referring to is, Stellar is simply under-utilized or their company simply wasted their potential/skills. They have a level of talent but they were not able to do anything with it because their company didn't push them in that direction. I don't think underrated is the most appropriate term to use for your analogy, it's kind of a different concept or train of thought. The difference mainly being, Dreamcatcher has been allowed to show their full potential but the general public still doesn't react or value it as much as you would think they should; thus they are underrated. I agree with all of your sentiments otherwise. I thought the Stellar members were fantastic so I agree with you, it's just sad how their company forced them down that terrible path.
Odd Eye definitely deserved a first win, it’s completely bs that they didn’t.
Not really. We had way to little digital points which only Koreans can help with. The only way internationals can help is if they have a korean phone number or streaming on the Bugs app. That's it. Golden Child won 'cause of digital sadly ☹
@@Tranitosaur Well we could've helped but THE SHOW changed the voting system right before they went on it and they also changed it back after the promotions ended like WTF KIND OF BS IS THAT?! I HATE THE TRASHBAG THAT'S CALLED "THE SHOW"
@@SimpinKevin Yeah. I noticed that when I couldn't vote on them
@@SimpinKevin Even the whole 5% of international pre-voting wouldn't have pushed Dreamcatcher to the win. GolCha had the win purely from digitals and physicals (considering their release was a few days ahead of Dreamcatcher's). This is sadly something that's baked into the entire industry - even low/mid-tier boy groups will absolutely crush every girl group that isn't the biggest on digitals barring a huge stroke of luck (Exid's Up & Down, Brave Girls' Rollin') or an intensely popular song. GolCha also has a large domestic fanbase - they do have some name power being from Woollim (who has a deal with SME - hello Big3 money) which is also home to Lovelyz and to Infinite. Please chill out about that rule switch that was reverted. It's not the first time I've seen this happen and it won't be the last.
@@aislin2989 Exactly, I saw some Korean reactors reacting to Boca and Odd Eye... They were totally unaware of who Dreamcatcher were... I'm not expecting every single person in Korea to know them, but for people who run a Kpop reaction channel on RUclips? Please... But hopefully, with the increase attention they got from Odd Eye (and their physical sales blew the roof), maybe there will be more Korean attention for the next comeback...
i've watched this video sooo many times and every time it breaks me
It’s okay now guys during dystopia era we sold a ton of albums scream 60k, Boca 103k & odd eye 120k. Eventually we will get a win don’t worry timing is everything hopefully we stop running into boy group when we get nominated.
I just hope that we get that first win if not I would leave kpop forever
@@sxtloml5477 No you won't. DC have you under their belt.
Nice reaction. Dreamcatcher has done 3 world tours, visiting North and South America, Europe, Oceania and Asia. Cities visited Buenos Aires (Argentina), Santiago (Chile), Lima (Peru), Bogotá (Colombia), Panama (Panama), Taipei (Taiwan), Tokyo and Kobe (Japan), Singapore City (Singapore), Manila (Philippines) , Seoul (Korea), Melbourne (Australia) canceled due to fire, Sydney (Australia), Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia), London (UK), Milan (Italy), Berlin (Germany), Warsaw (Poland), Paris (France), Amsterdam (Netherlands), Helsinki (Finland), LA, Chicago, Dallas, Orlando and Jersey City (USA). Also during 2020 they did two online concerts due to the pandemic and the second of them, "7 spirits", was with a live band. This month will be another online concert with live band in 2 nights, first night acoustics (26/03) and the second rock (27/03) Thanks for the reaction.
They will also be participating in Kcon:tact 3, the online concerts replacing KCON. They are scheduled to appear on 21/03.
To add on, that is quite an achievement and if I am not wrong, they are the first GG from the 3rd - 4th generation to actually have a tour that comprises of S.America, America, Europe, Asia and Australia. Although the venue they perform at cant compare in size to the bigger groups which have sell out stadiums but touring so many countries promoting their music is again something bold and unconventional, pointing again to the water they are drinking at Happyface Ent.
Thanks for reacting to my fave guide, although quite frustrating and heartbreaking. I know I'm biased but I don't know of any other kpop group who has consistently put out so much top tier content for this long, toured worldwide more than most, and have done almost everything they can so far, YET still have relatively little recognition and popularity in Korea compared to their peers (and what they deserve). But Dreamcatcher and InSomnia soldier on because that's what we do. Hwaiting!
I don't know how many times I've watched this video and still keeps getting me emotional 😭😭..
But thanks to this video, it actually strengthen my support and love for them.
Glad you watch and react to it.
Also, they've just dropped a dance video Odd Eye Dystopia version.. so, would be nice if you make some time to react to it. It's a reward for 20mil views, as they promised us.. 😏😏😏
Cute avatar, Po!
@@JGM0JGM arigato, po!😌😌
In the start they struggle to sell 4000 albums but right now they sell 42000 album in one day and 120k albums in a month im so proud insomnia 💜
No matter how many times I watch this vid it gets me mad not at the groups but THE show I hate them they rob DC every time they get a chance
Thanks for your reactions !!
As a somnia since debut that day of their "stolen win" is still the worst day ever I had experienced in these 4 years.. can't imagine how the girls must have felt 😔
honestly I don't want to believe in music shows or other companies plotting against them but it's just too much coincidence every damn time they are close to get their 1st win, something has to happen with the yt views, changes on the voting apps, and everything.. It's just so weird...
Well i should not think too much on that, maybe they really are just coincidences but well, I really wish and hope Dreamcatcher get their well deserved win soon 😊
Yes, I agree, there is no conspiracy against them, they just happen to be at the right place at the wrong time. Like Deja Vu, if BTS hadn't drop their album at that moment, they would have a chance in the second week. As with the Everglow fiasco, of course, it's nothing to do with the Everglow girls, burt with their agency, YueHua. That Chinese company has ties with SM and were vocal about their willingness to invest in the Korean market... So Everglow's win would be a nice gesture towards the agency, and SM would also appreciate the help shown to their Chinese partner...
Everglow's company Yuehua Ent is as massively wealthy as any of the big Korean companies but the funds for the Korean subsidiary agency are based in China so people don't usually count them as one of the richest in Korea. Yuehua has also been known to "buy" their way into entertainment markets in China (Produce 101, Youth with You, Rocket Girls , UNINE etc) .....allegedly. Also, with their idols for Produce X (X1) in Korea... proven. And I know this is sensitive for some, but also the mysterious late jump in rank for Yena to debut in Izone (PD48, also proven to have vote manipulation). I'm not saying they bought Everglow their first win... BUT i'm also not NOT saying it. Hmmmm ~~~~~~~~
Two producers from Produce 101 and Produce 48 are currently serving jail sentences for fraud because of vote rigging on those shows and 6 other staff members received large fines. The debut of Iz*One was delayed because the lineup of the group had been decided before the final vote. I have no faith in music show results because the voting process is dishonest, since anyone can buy votes by using the voting apps owned by the broadcasters. Winning means having the most fans willing to buy votes. The quality of the music really doesn't matter.
@@mrjackpots1326 even getting trainees on those shows involved lucrative audition bribes. Rough world for the little guy ☹️
Exactly, also, I'm sure it's just a coincidence that Yuehua has ties with one of the big 3 Korean agency and that they had made it known they were interested in some sort of Korean investment deal around that time (i.e. they were willing to spend money in Korea)... Yeah, just a coincidence...
This video broke me
Every time... 😢
That company "bought" the first win. Oof. Tf the shoe
You gotta react to LOONA!!! Alot of reactors either liked Loona first then DC or DC first then LOONA-
For starters watch:
-The Avengers of Kpop: A Story of LOONA
-The Inconstant Moon A History of LOONA(by Mera)
-The 4 current title tracks ( Hi-High, Butterfly, So What, Why Not? ) + Star MV (eng ver of Voice)
- ALL LOONA SOLOs & SUB-UNIT SONGS (pre-debut)
I'm hopeful that their popularity in Korean is on the rise and that's what we need to get them a first win. They've been on more shows during Odd Eye promotions and the even had a morning news show do a piece on them.
Maybe next comeback!...
Wow, you watched the DC history 🤩
BOIIII that The Show segment makes my blood boil😡 and yes it happened again (alleged) BUT they're more successfull than ever
btw: Love Shake wasn't not even Minx song, she actual song belongs to DalShabet, HF just throw Minx to do a re-make instead of an actual album
its been 4 f..ng years and still this f...ng show "The Show" doesnt want to give us the win, idk why?
Because SBS is well known to be YG's personal c*ckwarmer and YG is known to hold a grudge for decades.
@@aislin2989 i know that but there is a lot YG stans i dont want to get fire for "just because", YG probably get mad at Happyface when they lawsuit them 'cause of Mixnine thing, and now they are making everything to not gave dreamcatcher their win.
@@ciberoyuncu7459 yeah that's pretty much what I was saying
Your smile when chase me came, girl sameeeeeee!!!!!
And will add up to that rigged show, we InSomnia came to a conclusion that all of this happenings against their popularity domestically is bcos of yg, hfe file a lawsuit against them and it seems like yg paid them for it but revenge after. Well this just speculation but money can buy that and yg basically has more of that. I can't wait for the time to get him on jail for whatever reason bcos he's a living monster.
Try analyzing scream era, some said izone resched their cb that time that made DC have to go against them.
-have no against izone (I love the girls)
Try analyzing boca era, the show stopped broadcasting for two weeks just exactly the day DC would've THE BIGGER CHANCE to win, and their reason is bcos some of their staff got contact w a covid positive.
-(it's something soooo fishy for us)
Try analyzing Odd Eye era, the group they'll be going against for some of music show got a proper domestic support compared to DC BUT it's still soooo fishy how that group stayed so well on digital platform when they struggled so much for their last cb. (I will not elaborate this much bcos I know this is just a rumor but thinking how you can actually manipulate korean chart using money)
After all this battle for first win became our bridge to always do better and unite as one and along with this we didn't expect that we will achieve more because of this.
-still hoping mera will do part II for the dystopia series and when they finally get their first win.
(sorry for my grammar, english is not my native language)
I'm so proud of my girls 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Hardwork without support from industry 💎
This is the video that i've been waiting for
Until Now The Show was shit to Dreamcatcher never giving them First Win
your so cute when you avoiding the spoilers lmao
Dreamcatcher is out of the conventional this is most likely the reason why theres is always somenthing against them. DC has a lot of international support but back in Korea things are different they prefer other kinds of groups. Its very shady how thing went down everytime DC get an oportunity for a first win.
This is just my opinion, I like Everglow, got nothing against them i think they are very talented, funny, crackheads i love them its a great group but men they were a rockie group against DC with one of the top songs and performance. Even with DUN DUN or their recent comeback they got not chance against Deja Vu.
The fact that Everglow's Company is very weird and had a history of doing shady stuff plus the alleged shaved numbers and stats is not crazy to say they stole DC first win.
Odd Eye is maybe the best song from DC and again youtube numbers were shave and add back only when the whole thing was over.
These is what I'm afraid of, DC its getting more support but everytime they comeback there is at least 50% chance that shady stuff will happen and other groups will edge them for a few points.
Theres no doubt they are gonna make great music, but getting a first win on these shows in the end like it or not is never gonna be easy for a group out of the conventional kpop sound if its not one of the big 3 group or fuckin BTS men i mean lets be honest doesnt matter even if BTS do a worst comeback than other groups they have golden pass to get the win bro thats how much influence and support they have.
These shows are around controversial and things that happen behind doors, bc of the impact that the winning group gets on the market and public, its not surprising large companies wants their groups to win under any cost after all number$ its part of the music industry and this is why these shows sometimes dont really care about music or performance.
So being realistic I dont expect DC to get a win in the near future for the way these shows are manage or maybe after a few more times finally they will give them one at least.
All i know for sure I'll keep supporting them and listen to their great music
Thanks for this.
thank you
Your intro music is so pretty!
Remind me not to get in a car with you when you plan on jamming to DC hahaha
Hey! So, there's going to be a LOT of angry comments directed at The Show, as is usual whenever there's a reaction to this video. While, what The Show did back in 2019 was shady af, and we all hate them for it... We still don't have definitive proof for more recent stuff. Like The Show being canceled for covid during DC's first week of Boca promotions (when they're at their highest chance of winning), or just removing international votes for this past comeback. Honestly, a lot of these may very well be coincidence, and we should hold our thoughts until we get a couple more comebacks before saying anything. A lot of us Somnies tend to jump the gun when it comes to anything even remotely close to this kind of stuff. Like this past comeback, YT had froze views for Odd Eye, and the views really picked up and got counted after promotions were over, but that event has nothing to do with the music shows, and we wouldn't even had beaten Golden Child even with the updated views. People just need an outlet to blame or vent.
That being said, while it IS a shame that DC doesn't have a first win yet, their popularity is still on an upward trend, and it doesn't seem like it'll stop anytime soon. They're finally getting on more and more variety shows, and their album sales are only going up. DC also pulls a good amount of money from their tours and concerts. While DC doesn't have the funding of some other groups, they're doing quite well financially, so they're not going anywhere anytime soon. At this point, a first win isn't as a priority as it was over a year ago. DC themselves have stated multiple times that they don't want us to apologize for a lack of a first win, and that they don't want us to be sad. So it seems that at this point, the first win is a little more of a bonus to appease fans.
With the continual upward swing of popularity, it's only going to be inevitable that DC will get their first win. It's just a matter of time. We just need to stop expecting it every comeback, and simply cheer our girls on.
I don't think many of us are "expecting" it and we need a win for our own appeasement? Most of us want a music show win to make our girls feel successful. Somnies don't want a win as a trophy for the fandom, we want a win for the girls, to show them our thanks and appreciation for all their hard work they do for us. They mention on vlives and variety shows how they want their first win so we try to make them happy (like they do for us)... we're not trying to win it for ourselves.
@@klicclak yeah, I know that, I’m just tryna say that it’s not as big as a priority than before... it just gotten to the point where people are spamming “DREAMCATCHER FIRST WIN” when other groups are on stage. And idk man, every comeback we say this is it, it’s the first win, then we get disappointed and lash out when we don’t get it. Just want to temper expectations for future comebacks. We should still be voting and streaming to get them the win ofc tho
@@808nemesis6 Agree that a win is not important to their commercial success at this point (in fact, I in the camp that it never was important other than validation for the fans , the artist and the company for the effort they put in making the music that we all love). As for The Show, I do agree that the recent accusations are unfair but oh well, unfair or not, they deserve whatever shade just for what they did in 2019.
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TBH many groups face similar hardships... to be fair Everglow is an awesome group tho, highly recommended...
to be fair, its not directly the girls of everglow's fault, but YueHua Ent is shady AF