I could argue the same thing for basically every other game. There are lots of "easily avoidable problems" for many other games out there. Just pointing it out.
i actually really like the log books ngl, the low droprate of the logbooks is actually kinda understandable since yk the people who payed 5k robux for admin mode unlock all the enemies, it would make it kinda unfair if it was really easy to get all the log books making admin mode useless, the only thing i dont like is that enemies can drop duplicates, that feature kinda sucks
oh yeah fair point. only complaint I have is duplicate logbooks and low boss drop rates. Imo, the bosses should have a 10% drop rate, but event bosses should have it guaranteed after 10 kills.
Did you know that to unlock events enemys in admin mode, you still need to find their logbooks in the event. How do I know this? I don't have admin gamepass myself, but I have many friends who do and they told me this.
@@TheTacoManYes, Admin Mode unlocks all the "new" and "legacy" enemies from the regular game, but in order to get the new and old enemies from Frost Invasion, you need to get their indexes.
The enemy index is probably the worst index I have ever seen for a strategy game, like, it only displays their health, speed and... thats it, like it doesn't show their abilities, resistance, just their health, speed and how they look like
I agree, thankfully it will get updated in the future. Unless if the devs have a habit of delaying updates, but they would never do that right? Right? (The first frost invasion, 2021. Or was it 2022?)
The only good thing about them is that if you get a spawner enemy you also get the logbook for what it spawns. I got the frost necromancer and it also gave me frost undead
in risk of rain there are items that increase luck for the run and it also works for the logbooks there is also a "modifier" which lets you pick items not including colectables
my idea is that every round, 2 random enemies in the gamemode, that you do not have the logbook for, will always drop a logbook. this means that if there are 40 enemies in a gamemode, it would take a maximum of 20 wins to get all of the enemies' logbooks.
Funny how nobody considered all of this FOMO and "you wont be able to get this enemy ever again!!" until logbooks were added. Most people were COMPLETELY FINE with never seeing OG event enemies again because they didn't really care. But now that there's a system I guess people just want to complain... "This makes people fear that they will never be able to flex" is a pretty funny statement that I can't really take seriously to be real with you. Flexers are also really annoying too. TDS seems to have a pattern with these things were they almost always suck at it. The hexscape battlepass was the first bp to have two tracks and a completely new system, and it kinda sucked. Mako DJ was the first ultimate skin and... also sucked. Notice how these two examples were the first times they did stuff like this? Yeah... I think the ideas you gave are nice though, and the developers should probably consider removing RNG. But then again, manually inputting a pity system with guaranteed chances for each enemy would be insanely hard, considering TDS has a crap ton of enemies, and would be hard to code. I think another solution could be adding a logbook shop for level 250s (or whatever the level for getting sandbox is), and making a daily rotation where it would sell logbooks for coins or gems.
With the FOMO, I think it’s because before the second frost invasion, there was no benefit from murdering enemies non-stop 24/7 because they were going no matter what, and you will never see them again in game. But with log books and sandbox mode, you could spawn them, fight them, and buff them. You could make a whole wave out of Frost Invasion enemies. And a log book shop would be a cool idea, you could buy normal enemies and event enemies with coins and gems, so both currency still have value. Like for example, one Elite Abnormal log book costs 1000 coins, or 100 gems. (1 gem = 10 coins) and make it so the enemies that are event enemies are exclusive and buyable during the event only. And I hope it’s not like the skin shop if it ever gets added in game, make every enemy purchasable at all times. (Except event enemies, and the game modes of enemies you have not beaten yet. For example, if you have not beaten molten, you cannot buy a Molten Warlord book) but that’s just my idea, they could have a better one planned
Tbh I don't really get stuff in a game for flexing, I just get stuff for the satisfaction of having everything in the game (Although I can agree with the rest of your statments)
My idea to make index/logbook better: -Remove rng ( Ofcourse) -Player can get a reward or exclusive item if they complete a percentage completion of logbook ( Just like terraria did maybe) - Add unique description of each boss or enemies (to make player want to collect enemies log more i guess) And they should also bring back reward menu, they shouldnt remove it completely though.
About the enemy description, I think I seen some dev say that lore will be added later in time to normal enemies, the description like for the frost enemies
Tds devs most likely will not change it. They have the reputation of screwing up even the easiest of tasks. Most likely, it'll stay the same and bellow will just call us ungrateful as per usual
@Nick_Avarage fr, yall are making stuff up 😭also half the time the community REALLY IS ungrateful and are never happy so you really can't blame them if they did ever say that
@@pokade3659Hexscape was fine, bit of lore drop and kinda cool event, but yeah, they overhyped Mako DJ cuz they said "It won't be in any skincrates, it's gonna be other way to obtain it🤓☝" and by other way they meant paying 8 fricking dollahs for her. Also don't forget that they promised us other champion skins as PvP reward (definitely getting f upped)
I completely agree with what you're saying, but I want to point out about the enemies from the permanent game modes. I think it was designed with the idea that players would unlock enemies as they level up and progress through the game, playing the normal modes, and I think by the time they hit level 250 they'd have at least half the index unlocked.
And leaving players who already have everything in the game and an insanely high level to do it all over again but getting way less out of the grind than someone who starts new.
This is great video. You explained why it's flawed and gave suggestions on how to improve it. You didn't slander and gave destructive complaints which makes you better than Eggrypted. Keep going! You're doing great!
there was an inconsistency you mentioned about the chance, there is not a 0.3 to 5% chance, in the original message it was a dev telling someone the chances the the ice beacon drops a logbook, the reason they said what was because the 0.3% chance was easy mode, and the 5% chance was in hard mode. also u kinda over-exaggerate the reasons why, like you dont really need logbooks, and its not that deep because like 90% of the tds community cant even use sandbox mode
I mean, he has a fair point. He's relatively constructive about it. Despite calling the system terrible, he doesn't attack the devs like others do and ACTUALLY offers a solution rather than ranting about ONLY the problems. Also, does that mean frost spirit logbooks on hard are a 1/20 chance or what?
@@4dstrawberry-l9z42f i mean it is constructive but he acts like you need logbooks for progression, the logbook system is more like a slight annoyance than a major problem
@@quicklolobino fair point, can't really argue against that. People are just annoyed by dupes and RNG, which is actually kind of fair. Logbooks are end-game content, and end-game content always has to be executed well, otherwise end-game players won't be happy.
i think its not THAT bad atleast for me, but i think a good fix would be to make so when you kill an enemy the chance of getting its logbook gradually increases (potentially guarentee) depending on the health/rarity of the enemy so its way easier to grind because each game will give you more chance to get the logbooks you want and it would prevent from RNGOD just hating you and LITTERALLY NEVER GETTING IT!! Also would need to remove dupes but they're useless anyway
Didn’t the duplicates use to give gems? I don’t think they were supposed to do that, but I got a lot of gems from that glitch. I got 200 by the time they were removed. (But I do agree that the duplicate log books are useless, and feel dissatisfying. “Ooh is it a new enemy? Oh no, it’s just another breaker2)
@@spacedued4921 oh wait really? I did not know it was just a display glitch, but for I got gems from it? I don’t know why I got gems, one reason might be that it’s a bug that applies to only some people.Like a bug that not everyone experiences, like data loss and people’s UI not working. Maybe my glitch was device related? I honestly do not know why I got gems, I thought everyone else got gems too. (Disclaimer: I am stating that I did not know that other people did not get gems from collecting log books and I am stating that I still got gems for reason I do not know of. I also came up with some possibilities of why I got gems from log books but others didn’t. I do not mean disrespect, nor am I looking for an argument. I am simply stating my thoughts on the subject. I actually do not know why I got gems)
I've heard the hance of getting logbooks already depends too on the health of the enemy, like, if it wasn't, people wouldn't talk more about flexing the crystals frost spirit spawns rather than flexing the frost spirit himself
I really hope they fix it man i have beated this event like 47 times out 80 matches cuz most of the time players just quit at the starting waves or they have trash towers or they are absolutely stupid and never moves their pursuits when a leak is about to happen
I feel you bro, that is annoying. Honestly, the best thing to tell the people that are bad players playing the event is to tell them to please get better by practicing in other game modes by themselves, then play it so they aren’t just deadweight on their teammates
Personally I think the system is alright for the most part, but it could use some changes. First of all, remove duplicates. Words cannot describe how quickly I go from super excited to super disappointed after seeing a logbook and grabbing it, only to realize that it’s an enemy that I’ve already gotten. Secondly, I think you should automatically get an enemy’s logbook if you’ve killed them a certain amount of times and still don’t have it. So for common enemies like normals, it could be like 1k+ kills, and for bosses, it could be like 10 or so.
in my opnion they should add pity and also add more information like whats their base modifiers and fix problems like hp (some enemies have wrong hp and somehow i know better than the developers that dont know the hp of their enemies) and sometimes they have wrong places they spawn and also remove duplicate logbooks cuz it pollutes the screen and u go "oh an loogbook!" and then is the breaker 2 you already have, removing it is also good cuz there is less drops on the floor
Good idea actually. Maybe taking inspiration from Terraria, you'd have to kill the enemies a certain amount of times to unlock their lore and information, and at X amount of kills (for example 100), you'll get the ability to spawn them in sandbox mode. That way, they can keep their grinding nature (if that's what they wish for) so they have high concurrent online players, and we players aren't frustrated at the fact that the entire system is based on a random number.
It is a good idea but a terrible execution they could've made it like pvz instead they fall into the slop game paths having a stupid rng based and terrible monetization
i think the reason tds made the logbooks like this is probably for the players to continue playing their game over and over again, meanwhile the devs profiting money (or robux) from those players
idk why they made sandbox mode 5599 robux to get full access it’s honestly just a cash grab at this point lmao they should make the logbooks just like terraria
Man they should make it all log books like 30-50% ish and the first time u complete that mode example: Fallen mode you complete it should go up like 5% for all enemies that way technically it isn't THAT grindy but still is a little and players will be more happy
The logbook is also stolen idea from tower heroes ( i am a player from that game). Unlike tds where you can only see lore for enemies, Tower heroes has short descriptions or even references and you can buy the enemies as a follower for coins candy eggs or gingerbread ( candy eggs and gingerbread are event currencies) bosses have high prices , and you need to beat the mode several times to buy them( usually 5 and formerly 10)
I don't think rng for logbooks is bad or the current system is bad. It encourages more replayability for more experienced players who have all the towers and golden skins. The only fix this system needs is probably the pity system, other than that, it's fine how it is right now.
Ngl, this just sounds like whining through nostalgia glasses of older TDS. If you don’t like a feature that doesnt affect your gameplay, just ignore it. Also, “event enemies are harder”, I got almost every frost invasion enemy in 4-5 games of Hard mode besides the frost spirit.
Also make the Logbooks actually give stuff like coins, exp, or gems depending on what drops the Logbook index, say event bosses could give gems along with the logbook, just not a lot give you're mainly supposed to get them from Hardcore and challenges.
The simplest solution is by making the logbook drop rate doubles each time you killed that enemy. That way you're guaranteed to get boss's log book in 6 match. Just good enough to enjoy an event.
i feel like if you kill a boss or just a enemy after a certain amout of times you gets its logbook, like if you kill fallen king 5 times, you get the logbook
one thought i had was like a quest system for getting the enemies, for example kill abnormal (a) times it would be grindy, but at least youre guaranteed to get the enemy at some point and as for bosses, beat the gamemode 3 times or something and you get the boss
Even though my FOMO is really bad and makes some TD games unplayable, I just don't really care anymore. I probably will grind out this event for frost spirit just because it's a cool boss but in the future i don't see myself doing this all the time.
wanna know something that’s also horrible? Whenever you spawn in that event enemy (or normal enemy, etc) lets say, frost spirit. When you look at his health, he has 250k. Now, when you look in his logbook, or summon him, THE HEALTH IS FUCKING OFF, HE HAS 100k INSTEAD OF 250k. Now look, I know, it’s an event enemy. BUT LOOK I WANT GOOD ACCURACY INSTEAD OF THIS BS
I feel like it should be 25% and the bosses should be 75%(yes not lowered) and if you’re a veteran that’s like level 400 you should get all of the logbook from your data
Idk if they should do anything about veterans... That will certainly make the community go insane knowing how much they hate veterans and their gatekeeping traits (look at what happens when the devs release gamepasses of OG towers)
i personally think for more common enemies like the normal zombie you face on wave 1 costs more log books to get more info as more rare ones like event or bosses require 1 or maybe 2 log books to get the info, and 90% drop rate for commons and 100% drop rate for bosses and event enemies
Couldn’t agree more. I personally think that for event enemies and bosses you should immediately get their logbook guaranteed after killing them just my personal opinion.
Hear me out Boost logbook chances up to 5%+ (regular gamemodes oly) Make boss logbooks 60% or more (event bosses should be 50%) Per % amount of dmg you do to the enemy, is added on to the regular chances Ex: If you do 10% of the dmg dealt to any enemy, (if its a boss)Then you get a 70% chance of getting the bosses logbook
I dont agree with rng but i dont think they should make it 100% chance on any enemies because im actually really enjoying grinding for the log books and there is so much dopamine rush when you see one drop. It also gives me a reason to play the game which is nice because otherwise i just wouldnt hop on tds tbh
tbh, this logbook system should only be used for events, not normal, or special gamemodes since... *insert the admin mode gamepass thumbnail* that exists.
btw even if you buy admin mode you still can't spawn event enemies. so you still need to go pray for logbooks if you want to spawn frost spirit or the legacy versions
Tbh the new logbook rng made me is crap ton of cash…… it’s still annoying tho, it took me like 4 days (3 hours of gameplay) of grinding just to get everything
The RNG is good tbh because that means event enemies will be rare as not everyone will obtain it unless they put the work in so tbh its a good system imo
I think if you still want to keep the rng but make it more fair you should have it where either A: Make it a high chance or a guarantee that the final boss will drop it while the rest of the enimies are rng. B: Have the bosses index unlock as a reward for beating the event which is basically the guarantee. Or C: The pity system similar to arcane oddyssey and its sunken items where if you you try at it a certain amount of times you will get it anyway as the game takes pity on your bad luck. Or D just automatically have the frost things in the index if you show up to the event.
Im still salty about the fact the battlepass, most of the sick ass skins are behind a PAYWALL. If you’re gonna be like “Oh then why dont you just buy it, it’s cheap anyway”. In your country, maybe but there are most parts of the world where this shit cost the same amount as you’d get for food.. or even more than that. This shit is like unhealthy towards f2p players, not to mention the amount of fillers which makes it so fucking unenjoyable just have the emotes and skins. If this is to just keep the players in more, not everyone has that freetime we all got shit to do. I like do not have shit against people who grind the battlepass or anything, I even dont have the slightest shit on the people who just skip the levels with robux… we all have one thing in common, The fillers and the Paywall. I understand this is like the only option to have some paywalls or have that Mako Dj thing that costed 8 dollars (35 * 8, you decide how much baht that is). BUT, there is a huge fucking line between Normal and Greedy. You cannot somehow fuck this up TDS, you had 5 years in a lifetime, I will congratulate you yes for evolving.. advancing, new graphics new sick towers (most of them some are just plain useless and not fun to use).. but even so you somehow managed to piss us off three times, I won’t even be counting the rebalances because that’s just mixed opinions.. We had that one moment with the Lunar Event Night 3, what a hype breaker because of the buffs and nerfs we had so that it would be ‘balanced’. We also now have that Paywall battlepass, why not just include all of the sick cool looking skins that are behind the premium one into the free pass… AND also just remove the fillers no?? Now? We got this stupid TDS LogBook System that is based on RNG and the only way we could get all of them is by playing who knows how long the grind will be.. 80+ matches, 40+ matches I don’t care how much. All I know is that this shit is based on luck, RNG. I will literally not care about the other L updates because at least I had grown to it… these two things, the TDS LogBook system and the now new Event Battlepass paywall thing.. this will be continued to be dragged down by most of the players of the TDS community
@@Zamundeadfunny enough my friend got the void reaver book somehow and he told me thats hes first logbook (Sad news he still can't use it because he don't got admin)
Dawg I was grinding for the frost spirit logbook for so long I thought that they turned off logbooks from events entirely since I wasn't getting any duplicates, cause of this I went on a brand new freshly made account and soloed easy mode. When I won the first ever game on that account I deadass got a frost spirit logbook. I am not joking. edit : i JUST got the book gg
Stuff like tower heroes did it (almost) perfectly where u have to kill an enemy a certain amount of times, Then u have to buy it (ew part) but after u boughtit u can also become the enemy
3:08 ooh, so its like tower heroes, to get enemies follower you need to kill that enemy a certain time to get it as your follower, like 100 or just 3 if its bosses
Im almost done getting all fallen enemies and frost invasion but i either keep losing or I can’t get it no matter how many times i spend hours cooking to get frost spirit and fallen king
tds cooking up the most easily avoidable problems for their game
And yet they Fumbled with the log books
they have an amazing skill of doing that somehow
@@vyron-topic9592they need to be studied fr
we don't talk about mobile tds
I could argue the same thing for basically every other game. There are lots of "easily avoidable problems" for many other games out there. Just pointing it out.
People flex their books, I don't care, I just wanna see what 40 minigunners can do against 20 frost spirits
just gonna answer you right now, the minigunners are cooked
maybe even burnt
@@StrawberrySpr3outfreeze dried
you know man that's a good idea
even 40 rangers may struggle with 20 frost spirit but still it would be funny
Idc about flexing log books I just wanna use them in sandbox mode tbh
However it does takes a while i haven't gotten a normal log book instead I got something else.
same
same here brother
istg I always get breaker logbooks
this theme makes me want to open the door gently ngl
I found her...
i actually really like the log books ngl, the low droprate of the logbooks is actually kinda understandable since yk the people who payed 5k robux for admin mode unlock all the enemies, it would make it kinda unfair if it was really easy to get all the log books making admin mode useless, the only thing i dont like is that enemies can drop duplicates, that feature kinda sucks
oh yeah fair point.
only complaint I have is duplicate logbooks and low boss drop rates. Imo, the bosses should have a 10% drop rate, but event bosses should have it guaranteed after 10 kills.
Did you know that to unlock events enemys in admin mode, you still need to find their logbooks in the event. How do I know this? I don't have admin gamepass myself, but I have many friends who do and they told me this.
@@voferex3784 so admin mode only unlocks normal enemies not event ones?
@@TheTacoMan, why'd you remove the videos from your channel?
@@TheTacoManYes, Admin Mode unlocks all the "new" and "legacy" enemies from the regular game, but in order to get the new and old enemies from Frost Invasion, you need to get their indexes.
The enemy index is probably the worst index I have ever seen for a strategy game, like, it only displays their health, speed and... thats it, like it doesn't show their abilities, resistance, just their health, speed and how they look like
I agree, thankfully it will get updated in the future. Unless if the devs have a habit of delaying updates, but they would never do that right?
Right?
(The first frost invasion, 2021. Or was it 2022?)
The jumpscare at the end actually scared me 💀
I sure do love gambling for enemy logs and not even being able to read the whole log on mobile
It sucks man :(
The only good thing about them is that if you get a spawner enemy you also get the logbook for what it spawns. I got the frost necromancer and it also gave me frost undead
also you get both molten titans from one (new and legacy)
@@masterziggycat9779 you get that too
while im staring at the void
foxy jumpscare really got me
in risk of rain there are items that increase luck for the run and it also works for the logbooks there is also a "modifier" which lets you pick items not including colectables
my idea is that every round, 2 random enemies in the gamemode, that you do not have the logbook for, will always drop a logbook. this means that if there are 40 enemies in a gamemode, it would take a maximum of 20 wins to get all of the enemies' logbooks.
Funny how nobody considered all of this FOMO and "you wont be able to get this enemy ever again!!" until logbooks were added. Most people were COMPLETELY FINE with never seeing OG event enemies again because they didn't really care. But now that there's a system I guess people just want to complain...
"This makes people fear that they will never be able to flex" is a pretty funny statement that I can't really take seriously to be real with you. Flexers are also really annoying too.
TDS seems to have a pattern with these things were they almost always suck at it. The hexscape battlepass was the first bp to have two tracks and a completely new system, and it kinda sucked. Mako DJ was the first ultimate skin and... also sucked. Notice how these two examples were the first times they did stuff like this? Yeah...
I think the ideas you gave are nice though, and the developers should probably consider removing RNG. But then again, manually inputting a pity system with guaranteed chances for each enemy would be insanely hard, considering TDS has a crap ton of enemies, and would be hard to code.
I think another solution could be adding a logbook shop for level 250s (or whatever the level for getting sandbox is), and making a daily rotation where it would sell logbooks for coins or gems.
With the FOMO, I think it’s because before the second frost invasion, there was no benefit from murdering enemies non-stop 24/7 because they were going no matter what, and you will never see them again in game. But with log books and sandbox mode, you could spawn them, fight them, and buff them. You could make a whole wave out of Frost Invasion enemies. And a log book shop would be a cool idea, you could buy normal enemies and event enemies with coins and gems, so both currency still have value. Like for example, one Elite Abnormal log book costs 1000 coins, or 100 gems. (1 gem = 10 coins) and make it so the enemies that are event enemies are exclusive and buyable during the event only. And I hope it’s not like the skin shop if it ever gets added in game, make every enemy purchasable at all times. (Except event enemies, and the game modes of enemies you have not beaten yet. For example, if you have not beaten molten, you cannot buy a Molten Warlord book) but that’s just my idea, they could have a better one planned
How are u everywhere
@@nuhdff323 my account is secretly operated by 18 other people who comment under nearly every video in existence 24/7
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@ I saw you on a lot of eggrypteds videos. The 18 people must be hard at work
Tbh I don't really get stuff in a game for flexing, I just get stuff for the satisfaction of having everything in the game (Although I can agree with the rest of your statments)
My idea to make index/logbook better:
-Remove rng ( Ofcourse)
-Player can get a reward or exclusive item if they complete a percentage completion of logbook ( Just like terraria did maybe)
- Add unique description of each boss or enemies (to make player want to collect enemies log more i guess)
And they should also bring back reward menu, they shouldnt remove it completely though.
About the enemy description, I think I seen some dev say that lore will be added later in time to normal enemies, the description like for the frost enemies
Tds devs most likely will not change it. They have the reputation of screwing up even the easiest of tasks. Most likely, it'll stay the same and bellow will just call us ungrateful as per usual
I don't remember him calling the community like that
He did once during the consumable update@Nick_Avarage
@Nick_Avarage fr, yall are making stuff up 😭also half the time the community REALLY IS ungrateful and are never happy so you really can't blame them if they did ever say that
@@MangoGalaxyYT we arent grateful when they overhype things like the mako dj skin or the hexspace event then they make most of it payed
@@pokade3659Hexscape was fine, bit of lore drop and kinda cool event, but yeah, they overhyped Mako DJ cuz they said "It won't be in any skincrates, it's gonna be other way to obtain it🤓☝" and by other way they meant paying 8 fricking dollahs for her. Also don't forget that they promised us other champion skins as PvP reward (definitely getting f upped)
2:00 Seeing my video thumbnail caught me so off guard
your vid strat is actually good ima start using it
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Gonna use it
I completely agree with what you're saying, but I want to point out about the enemies from the permanent game modes. I think it was designed with the idea that players would unlock enemies as they level up and progress through the game, playing the normal modes, and I think by the time they hit level 250 they'd have at least half the index unlocked.
And leaving players who already have everything in the game and an insanely high level to do it all over again but getting way less out of the grind than someone who starts new.
This is great video. You explained why it's flawed and gave suggestions on how to improve it. You didn't slander and gave destructive complaints which makes you better than Eggrypted.
Keep going! You're doing great!
there was an inconsistency you mentioned about the chance, there is not a 0.3 to 5% chance, in the original message it was a dev telling someone the chances the the ice beacon drops a logbook, the reason they said what was because the 0.3% chance was easy mode, and the 5% chance was in hard mode.
also u kinda over-exaggerate the reasons why, like you dont really need logbooks, and its not that deep because like 90% of the tds community cant even use sandbox mode
I mean, he has a fair point. He's relatively constructive about it. Despite calling the system terrible, he doesn't attack the devs like others do and ACTUALLY offers a solution rather than ranting about ONLY the problems.
Also, does that mean frost spirit logbooks on hard are a 1/20 chance or what?
@@4dstrawberry-l9z42f i mean it is constructive but he acts like you need logbooks for progression, the logbook system is more like a slight annoyance than a major problem
@@quicklolobino fair point, can't really argue against that. People are just annoyed by dupes and RNG, which is actually kind of fair. Logbooks are end-game content, and end-game content always has to be executed well, otherwise end-game players won't be happy.
The end jumpscare actually freaked me tf out, its quiet here and im not paying attention
i think its not THAT bad atleast for me, but i think a good fix would be to make so when you kill an enemy the chance of getting its logbook gradually increases (potentially guarentee) depending on the health/rarity of the enemy so its way easier to grind because each game will give you more chance to get the logbooks you want and it would prevent from RNGOD just hating you and LITTERALLY NEVER GETTING IT!!
Also would need to remove dupes but they're useless anyway
Didn’t the duplicates use to give gems? I don’t think they were supposed to do that, but I got a lot of gems from that glitch. I got 200 by the time they were removed. (But I do agree that the duplicate log books are useless, and feel dissatisfying. “Ooh is it a new enemy? Oh no, it’s just another breaker2)
@B-z8q u lying for no reason they never actually gave gems it was a display bug there was no glitch in the code
@@spacedued4921 oh wait really? I did not know it was just a display glitch, but for I got gems from it? I don’t know why I got gems, one reason might be that it’s a bug that applies to only some people.Like a bug that not everyone experiences, like data loss and people’s UI not working. Maybe my glitch was device related? I honestly do not know why I got gems, I thought everyone else got gems too.
(Disclaimer: I am stating that I did not know that other people did not get gems from collecting log books and I am stating that I still got gems for reason I do not know of. I also came up with some possibilities of why I got gems from log books but others didn’t. I do not mean disrespect, nor am I looking for an argument. I am simply stating my thoughts on the subject. I actually do not know why I got gems)
I've heard the hance of getting logbooks already depends too on the health of the enemy, like, if it wasn't, people wouldn't talk more about flexing the crystals frost spirit spawns rather than flexing the frost spirit himself
@@Alguien_random_aquiThe chance of getting the crystal logbook is technally higher than frost spirit himself assuming he heals twice in the same match
"Good Idea, Terrible Execution" Fr fr 🐢🔥🔥
I really hope they fix it man i have beated this event like 47 times out 80 matches cuz most of the time players just quit at the starting waves or they have trash towers or they are absolutely stupid and never moves their pursuits when a leak is about to happen
I feel you bro, that is annoying.
Honestly, the best thing to tell the people that are bad players playing the event is to tell them to please get better by practicing in other game modes by themselves, then play it so they aren’t just deadweight on their teammates
Personally I think the system is alright for the most part, but it could use some changes. First of all, remove duplicates. Words cannot describe how quickly I go from super excited to super disappointed after seeing a logbook and grabbing it, only to realize that it’s an enemy that I’ve already gotten. Secondly, I think you should automatically get an enemy’s logbook if you’ve killed them a certain amount of times and still don’t have it. So for common enemies like normals, it could be like 1k+ kills, and for bosses, it could be like 10 or so.
0:50 I’m pretty sure they said the duplicates are a bug, it’s not intended to happen
Yea, its a bug, they alr fixed it
They havent
in my opnion they should add pity and also add more information like whats their base modifiers and fix problems like hp (some enemies have wrong hp and somehow i know better than the developers that dont know the hp of their enemies) and sometimes they have wrong places they spawn
and also remove duplicate logbooks cuz it pollutes the screen and u go "oh an loogbook!" and then is the breaker 2 you already have, removing it is also good cuz there is less drops on the floor
I’m a tds completionist, I told myself I would complete the logbooks before the update, if only I knew
Maybe they should make event enemies a 50% or a 75% or even after the event make them free for people to not get scared from not having event enemies
Good idea actually. Maybe taking inspiration from Terraria, you'd have to kill the enemies a certain amount of times to unlock their lore and information, and at X amount of kills (for example 100), you'll get the ability to spawn them in sandbox mode. That way, they can keep their grinding nature (if that's what they wish for) so they have high concurrent online players, and we players aren't frustrated at the fact that the entire system is based on a random number.
It is a good idea but a terrible execution they could've made it like pvz instead they fall into the slop game paths having a stupid rng based and terrible monetization
i think the reason tds made the logbooks like this is probably for the players to continue playing their game over and over again, meanwhile the devs profiting money (or robux) from those players
2:09 NAAHHHH!!! THAT ARGUEMENT HIT DIFFERENT!
That one got me where it hurts bro, that's exactly why i grind tds
these good features that the community wants always have something that completely ruins it
bro the devs genuinly fucked it, its not the community
that "something" is greed of devs for premium payouts, longer we play - more they get
the community didn't ruin this, I'd like to see your logic behind this comment.
I love how anything that's considered "grindy" in TDS is automatically considered milking premium payouts or greedy or whatver.
This is like hatching your first huge in pets go pets 99
Grinding logbooks for normal enemies : 😫😫
Grinding Logbooks for bosses : ☠
Idc about the flex or fear of missing out, i just wanna see og frost spirit again
Fomo just sucks entirely. oh you want a skin WELL TO BAD ITS A EVENT SKIN :( event towers also suck because there limited too
congratulations for the 1k subs
idk why they made sandbox mode 5599 robux to get full access it’s honestly just a cash grab at this point lmao
they should make the logbooks just like terraria
Man they should make it all log books like 30-50% ish and the first time u complete that mode example: Fallen mode you complete it should go up like 5% for all enemies that way technically it isn't THAT grindy but still is a little and players will be more happy
Okay actually now that i think about it this would have so much logbooks in your game so if you get them once then they wont spawn anymore
As a person who actually got frost spirit already from like 3 or 4 matches, seeing ppl suffer from doing it MANY times is upsetting.
3 to 4 matches?!
Bro must’ve found a four leaf clover or something 🍀😭🔥
nice intro music btw and good video of course as well
If you manage to collect a dupe logbook, you Js get a SINGULAR GEM
at least not 10 coins
when i got void reaver log book i felt like i won the lottery
The logbook is also stolen idea from tower heroes ( i am a player from that game). Unlike tds where you can only see lore for enemies, Tower heroes has short descriptions or even references and you can buy the enemies as a follower for coins candy eggs or gingerbread ( candy eggs and gingerbread are event currencies) bosses have high prices , and you need to beat the mode several times to buy them( usually 5 and formerly 10)
I don't think rng for logbooks is bad or the current system is bad. It encourages more replayability for more experienced players who have all the towers and golden skins. The only fix this system needs is probably the pity system, other than that, it's fine how it is right now.
The problem mainly comes from the temporary event modes, since clearly the system was not designed around that.
It's like those jojo games who does random ass events with heavy rng on it and expect to you complete it on three days
Ngl, this just sounds like whining through nostalgia glasses of older TDS. If you don’t like a feature that doesnt affect your gameplay, just ignore it.
Also, “event enemies are harder”, I got almost every frost invasion enemy in 4-5 games of Hard mode besides the frost spirit.
am fine with log book because it help to connect the game for long time and now i can enjoy the game like the beginning playing the game😢
Also make the Logbooks actually give stuff like coins, exp, or gems depending on what drops the Logbook index, say event bosses could give gems along with the logbook, just not a lot give you're mainly supposed to get them from Hardcore and challenges.
Tds devs hate mobile players, change my mind
BRO that foxy jumpscare at the end scared the F out of me and the worst part was my pc was at full volume w my parents around 💀
The simplest solution is by making the logbook drop rate doubles each time you killed that enemy. That way you're guaranteed to get boss's log book in 6 match. Just good enough to enjoy an event.
i feel like if you kill a boss or just a enemy after a certain amout of times you gets its logbook, like if you kill fallen king 5 times, you get the logbook
imo that should only apply to event bosses, then make permanent bosses have RNG.
one thought i had was like a quest system for getting the enemies, for example kill abnormal (a) times
it would be grindy, but at least youre guaranteed to get the enemy at some point
and as for bosses, beat the gamemode 3 times or something and you get the boss
Even though my FOMO is really bad and makes some TD games unplayable, I just don't really care anymore. I probably will grind out this event for frost spirit just because it's a cool boss but in the future i don't see myself doing this all the time.
TDS is now a gambling game,I'm switching to TDX
i made some calculations and a single SLOW BOSS has around 0.306 chance for a logbook
for some reason i keep getting dupes of breaker logbooks and nothing else
this happens to me too, and i thought they already fixed the dupe problem
Frrrr i got all the breakers, blue, green, red and purple and i keep getting dupes of them all
same, but i get other stuff
Its becuase breakersare the most common enemy in the game
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I would personally make bosses logbooks be like 10-20% (depending in if its an event or not) if they keep the rng system.
should be beat 1st time could get it
Yes, we have already missed the deadline for those coins, but fortunately, we still have some possibilities, such Web3 Infinity.
They should have make we instant get enemy index when first encounter or kill that enemy instead of RNG like why they would do that
wanna know something that’s also horrible? Whenever you spawn in that event enemy (or normal enemy, etc) lets say, frost spirit. When you look at his health, he has 250k. Now, when you look in his logbook, or summon him, THE HEALTH IS FUCKING OFF, HE HAS 100k INSTEAD OF 250k. Now look, I know, it’s an event enemy. BUT LOOK I WANT GOOD ACCURACY INSTEAD OF THIS BS
I feel like it should be 25% and the bosses should be 75%(yes not lowered) and if you’re a veteran that’s like level 400 you should get all of the logbook from your data
Idk if they should do anything about veterans... That will certainly make the community go insane knowing how much they hate veterans and their gatekeeping traits (look at what happens when the devs release gamepasses of OG towers)
they can't really do that, also those percentages are absurd. killing 4 normals and getting the logbook instantly would be crazy.
i think the dumbest thing is that you can get the same logbook multiple times
I got breaker arl like 5 times
@KostasMi-w6z me too. Its hella annoying
i personally think for more common enemies like the normal zombie you face on wave 1 costs more log books to get more info as more rare ones like event or bosses require 1 or maybe 2 log books to get the info, and 90% drop rate for commons and 100% drop rate for bosses and event enemies
i just realized i got frost spirit logbook first try without knowing how hard to get it
on god
Couldn’t agree more. I personally think that for event enemies and bosses you should immediately get their logbook guaranteed after killing them just my personal opinion.
"On average, it should take 20 games to get frost spirit's logbook" Me on my 47th game 🔥
one of the things i dont like is how messy is the logbook right now, everything is all mixed up
it is in order by abc
@ABomboChicken oh, but thats a pretty bad arrangement tbh. would be better if the logbook classify the molten, fallen, etc into different categories.
@@thebiggafortheninja true
Hear me out
Boost logbook chances up to 5%+ (regular gamemodes oly)
Make boss logbooks 60% or more (event bosses should be 50%)
Per % amount of dmg you do to the enemy, is added on to the regular chances
Ex: If you do 10% of the dmg dealt to any enemy, (if its a boss)Then you get a 70% chance of getting the bosses logbook
I dont agree with rng but i dont think they should make it 100% chance on any enemies because im actually really enjoying grinding for the log books and there is so much dopamine rush when you see one drop. It also gives me a reason to play the game which is nice because otherwise i just wouldnt hop on tds tbh
Fun fact the first time I beat the Frost Event I got the Frost Spirit I don’t know how I did it but I did it
tbh, this logbook system should only be used for events, not normal, or special gamemodes since... *insert the admin mode gamepass thumbnail* that exists.
btw even if you buy admin mode you still can't spawn event enemies. so you still need to go pray for logbooks if you want to spawn frost spirit or the legacy versions
I wish they made it so you have to collect pages instead of books
"Collect my pages"
Tbh the new logbook rng made me is crap ton of cash…… it’s still annoying tho, it took me like 4 days (3 hours of gameplay) of grinding just to get everything
It could be that you get more chances depending of amount of the logbooks you already have
The RNG is good tbh because that means event enemies will be rare as not everyone will obtain it unless they put the work in so tbh its a good system imo
I honestly thought you got Frost Spirit when you beat it, because I got it on my first completion
I think if you still want to keep the rng but make it more fair you should have it where either A: Make it a high chance or a guarantee that the final boss will drop it while the rest of the enimies are rng. B: Have the bosses index unlock as a reward for beating the event which is basically the guarantee. Or C: The pity system similar to arcane oddyssey and its sunken items where if you you try at it a certain amount of times you will get it anyway as the game takes pity on your bad luck. Or D just automatically have the frost things in the index if you show up to the event.
the biggest problem in 3 words : Random Number Generation (RNG)
Im still salty about the fact the battlepass, most of the sick ass skins are behind a PAYWALL. If you’re gonna be like “Oh then why dont you just buy it, it’s cheap anyway”. In your country, maybe but there are most parts of the world where this shit cost the same amount as you’d get for food.. or even more than that.
This shit is like unhealthy towards f2p players, not to mention the amount of fillers which makes it so fucking unenjoyable just have the emotes and skins. If this is to just keep the players in more, not everyone has that freetime we all got shit to do. I like do not have shit against people who grind the battlepass or anything, I even dont have the slightest shit on the people who just skip the levels with robux… we all have one thing in common, The fillers and the Paywall.
I understand this is like the only option to have some paywalls or have that Mako Dj thing that costed 8 dollars (35 * 8, you decide how much baht that is). BUT, there is a huge fucking line between Normal and Greedy. You cannot somehow fuck this up TDS, you had 5 years in a lifetime, I will congratulate you yes for evolving.. advancing, new graphics new sick towers (most of them some are just plain useless and not fun to use).. but even so you somehow managed to piss us off three times, I won’t even be counting the rebalances because that’s just mixed opinions.. We had that one moment with the Lunar Event Night 3, what a hype breaker because of the buffs and nerfs we had so that it would be ‘balanced’. We also now have that Paywall battlepass, why not just include all of the sick cool looking skins that are behind the premium one into the free pass… AND also just remove the fillers no?? Now? We got this stupid TDS LogBook System that is based on RNG and the only way we could get all of them is by playing who knows how long the grind will be.. 80+ matches, 40+ matches I don’t care how much. All I know is that this shit is based on luck, RNG.
I will literally not care about the other L updates because at least I had grown to it… these two things, the TDS LogBook system and the now new Event Battlepass paywall thing.. this will be continued to be dragged down by most of the players of the TDS community
Dude this system pissed me off, I got fallen kings log book before an abnormal 😭
dude very true i got fallen king log books but i didnt get a single normal fallen enemy 💀💀
@@Zamundeadfunny enough my friend got the void reaver book somehow and he told me thats hes first logbook
(Sad news he still can't use it because he don't got admin)
@@Soggyfishsteaksyou don't need admin to access sandbox mode. Just be lvl 250 and admin mode just makes you unlock all enemies and more.
@@Finnn69 im talking about how he can't spawn the void reaver
I got Ice beacon, Frost spirit spawns, but not Frost spirit himself
I personally like it bc it game makes u to more grind and not play one match and beat event and leave
Dawg I was grinding for the frost spirit logbook for so long I thought that they turned off logbooks from events entirely since I wasn't getting any duplicates, cause of this I went on a brand new freshly made account and soloed easy mode. When I won the first ever game on that account I deadass got a frost spirit logbook. I am not joking.
edit : i JUST got the book gg
for me is like 50/50
1 : cool
2 : GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Also, another simplest solution is make at least one logbook (not duplicate) to drop gurantee every single match
waiter! waiter! more horribly implemented ideas for the most straightforward features please!
Tds also should take the idea from doomspire defense cuz you just instantly unlock the enemies from a mode
tds devs trying not to mess up a good feature (impossible challenge)
Stuff like tower heroes did it (almost) perfectly where u have to kill an enemy a certain amount of times, Then u have to buy it (ew part) but after u boughtit u can also become the enemy
3:08 ooh, so its like tower heroes, to get enemies follower you need to kill that enemy a certain time to get it as your follower, like 100 or just 3 if its bosses
Getting the log book after killing the enemy is a better idea then rng
Im almost done getting all fallen enemies and frost invasion but i either keep losing or I can’t get it no matter how many times i spend hours cooking to get frost spirit and fallen king
i think they should make that if u defeat an enemy for the first time u should get its logbook
TDS adding smth no one wanted and no one needed but still messing up is so funny
I beated frost spirit 22 times allready on hard and 2 times on elite…
this is only a problem if you're crazy enough to grind to level 250 or spend 5k robux on admin mode
Who the f*** thought that having logbook entries being RNG locked was a good idea, tell me what game does this