The Shameful Saga of The BLACK SCORPION | WCW Starrcade '90 - Wrestle Me Review

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  • @Phantasia_Workshop
    @Phantasia_Workshop Год назад +146

    Olie's Black Scorpion voice is the same as his Shockmaster voice 😂

    • @rjjohnson2
      @rjjohnson2 Год назад +12

      And easily could tell it was him both times lol!

    • @deadtotheworld22
      @deadtotheworld22 Год назад +11

      Oh, no, he just sounds like the Honey Monster.

    • @ToruKun1
      @ToruKun1 Год назад +30

      And both of those voices are just Dr. Claw from Inspector Gadget 😂😂

    • @nick56677
      @nick56677 Год назад +12

      That's another thing I found gut-busting hilarious about the Shockmaster. When he stood up after the botch and the Black Scorpion voice belts out, I fell over.😂. They were out of ideas and just threw a bunch of gimmicks together with a Stormtrooper mask

    • @thestum5567
      @thestum5567 Год назад +1

      App

  • @hardingryan42
    @hardingryan42 Год назад +34

    All I can hear with oli Anderson using the voice changer is Dr Claw kept expecting him to say I'll get you Gadget

  • @gilawojodi
    @gilawojodi Год назад +45

    The female that attacked Sting was wrestler Peggy Lee Leather who hardly gets mentioned in anything, even in her death earlier this year 😔

    • @WrestleMe
      @WrestleMe  Год назад +22

      So it was! We did a full obit on Peggy Lee in one of our newsletters, but this fact I did not know!

  • @pendafen7405
    @pendafen7405 Год назад +11

    Those poor bears must have been terrified and traumatised with all those bright lights and humans making noise.

    • @D-Fens_1632
      @D-Fens_1632 Месяц назад +2

      That stuff pisses me off. You've gotta be sick to come up with that. He's lucky he wasn't mauled.

  • @tommo4k
    @tommo4k Год назад +26

    Black Scorpion sounds like Dr. Claw. "I'll get you next time Sting...NEXT TIME!!!"

    • @dealerslicenseops
      @dealerslicenseops 2 месяца назад

      My favorite is when they put Pat Rose in the black scorpion costume and he attacked sting with an adjustable wrench he got in the back. Hilarous, as pat rose was built like a tied off sausage

  • @jammiebooker6489
    @jammiebooker6489 Год назад +13

    Black Scorpion sounds like Dr Claw 😂 😂 Ill get you next time Stinger, next time

  • @TiVo67
    @TiVo67 Год назад +42

    Black Scorpion sounds an awful lot like Shockmaster

    • @Kaltagstar96
      @Kaltagstar96 Год назад +6

      I kinda wish that they had referenced that, like Sting introduces Shockmaster, hears his voice, slowly turns and starts to beat the ever loving shit out of Shockmaster.

    • @stewroo
      @stewroo Год назад +2

      ​@@Kaltagstar96Shame that the Shockmaster hadn't happened yet. Not for another three years.

    • @UncomfortableShoes
      @UncomfortableShoes 4 месяца назад

      @@Kaltagstar96lol. They really dropped the ball by having Sting turn into Crow sting, he should have turned into the Black Scorpion.

  • @johansmallberries9874
    @johansmallberries9874 11 месяцев назад +23

    Fun fact: Paul Heyman wasn’t told to act like a frightened child in this, it’s because at the time he was an actual 9 yr old boy.

  • @blacknapalm2131
    @blacknapalm2131 Год назад +8

    *TULSA! Remember TULSA Sting?!*
    No I fucking don't WOOOOOOOOOO!

  • @KyleShiflet13666
    @KyleShiflet13666 Год назад +32

    Kudos once again to Jim Ross for putting this crap over also jim getting snippy with paul is pure gold

  • @EgoCityGamingUK
    @EgoCityGamingUK Год назад +23

    Olie was gonna get his moneys worth out of that voice changer 😂😂,
    You recon he went home and used it on the misses 😂, “what’s for dinner”,
    “Have you ironed my shirt”

    • @markw110
      @markw110 5 месяцев назад

      ❤❤❤

    • @dealerslicenseops
      @dealerslicenseops 2 месяца назад

      Mrs. Ole.....in the bedroom....1976.....think about it, baby, think....about...it

  • @dustincongello5802
    @dustincongello5802 Год назад +33

    i like how they had big joshes bears muzzled as if they couldnt tear someone apart with their claws if they got angry

    • @derekshropshire2513
      @derekshropshire2513 Год назад +12

      I feel bad for the fans that their seats were next to the bear piss. That stuff is pungent.😂

    • @redheadbandanna1973
      @redheadbandanna1973 Год назад +6

      Poor bastards were probably declawed and doped up too

    • @dustincongello5802
      @dustincongello5802 Год назад +3

      @@redheadbandanna1973 i doubt wcw thought that much ahead about safety they probably went with the first trained bears they could find.and the way they were walking ifthey chose to jump into the crowd there was nothing in their way to stop them except a leash.they dont need claws to knock someone out with a swat from their paw

    • @nichhodge8503
      @nichhodge8503 Год назад

      I’ve always thought that when I see that clip (which gets used a lot to show Matt Borne as Big Josh) and it only takes one to attack to cause the other bear to start attacking you or other people. I wouldn’t want to be there if one of the bears turned as those bears stood up on their hind legs were bigger than Big Josh and while not being fully grown are old, big & strong enough to seriously hurt you/someone

    • @dustincongello5802
      @dustincongello5802 11 месяцев назад

      @@nichhodge8503 yeah and wcw doesnt have the best history with animals with kevin sullivan breaking that monkeys neck....i bet the just looked in the phone book for the most local bear handler, probably two guys name scratch and boweable that put thir different body parts in the bears mouth for tips..i wouldnt trust a bunch of old school wrestlers with brain damage to book any wild animal

  • @fattiger6957
    @fattiger6957 Год назад +56

    And this is a lesson to anyone writing a story. Always come up with the ending first.

    • @VelvetMetrolink
      @VelvetMetrolink Год назад +15

      George RR Martin cares not for this advice.

    • @jammiebooker6489
      @jammiebooker6489 Год назад +11

      Haha....and the writers of Lost

    • @toddkurzbard
      @toddkurzbard Год назад +3

      Tell that to the writers of Disney "Star Wars".

    • @Ohfishyfishyfish
      @Ohfishyfishyfish 4 месяца назад

      @@toddkurzbard "Somehow, Black Scorpion has returned..."

    • @TheEvolver311
      @TheEvolver311 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@toddkurzbardthe problem with Disney Star Wars was them listening to much to whiney fans with arrested development

  • @randylynch4330
    @randylynch4330 Год назад +7

    The Woooo were what Sting would do, thats why the crowd was doing that

  • @mikesanborn4541
    @mikesanborn4541 Год назад +19

    Paul Heyman gives me strong Ralph Wiggim vibes.

  • @bluesea2023
    @bluesea2023 Год назад +10

    This was the most important mystery in my life for like 16 days

    • @pendafen7405
      @pendafen7405 Год назад +2

      And when you're a kid, 16 days feels like 16 months.

    • @dealerslicenseops
      @dealerslicenseops 2 месяца назад +1

      Dude same here! We had guesses as to who it was. My friend and I (in 8th grade at the time) figured it was the ultimate warrior. We called the mene gene hotline and the wcw hotline to try getting more clues. lol!

  • @brandons6167
    @brandons6167 Год назад +29

    Another thing that killed this match was the fact that Sting defeated the Black Scorpion just weeks earlier at the Clash of Champions. It was revealed to be a fake Black Scorpion afterwards. So no one could get into this match because it could easily just be another bait and switch.

    • @CoreyT127
      @CoreyT127 10 месяцев назад +2

      Thats right. I totally forgot about that

    • @dealerslicenseops
      @dealerslicenseops 2 месяца назад

      Let us not forget when arn anderson was terrified of sting and robo cop.

    • @clintsaines9274
      @clintsaines9274 Месяц назад

      Weeks? It was a few months. It was before Halloween havoc 1990.

    • @brandons6167
      @brandons6167 Месяц назад

      @@clintsaines9274 ok.

  • @jasonryanhaley9411
    @jasonryanhaley9411 8 месяцев назад +4

    i'm reaaly enjoying this. The long winded "whooooooooo!' from the crowd @15;40 was a Sting thing. Not a flair whoo type of thing. Early in Sting's WCW days, he would stop & scream "WHOOOOOOOOOO" really loudly & high- pitched , with his hands open around his face, like an old lady in a pig calling contest.

  • @ConfusionDistortion
    @ConfusionDistortion 2 месяца назад +3

    "Sting, my old friend. It's me, the ShockMaster. I've time traveled to the past to talk to you via cryptic promos..."

  • @StillABigKid
    @StillABigKid Год назад +29

    That space pod the Black Scorpion comes out of is like a rejected Starfox boss.

    • @grizzly_lariatto
      @grizzly_lariatto 11 месяцев назад +6

      Quit trying to make this cool!!

    • @nichhodge8503
      @nichhodge8503 6 месяцев назад +2

      I loved Starfox as a kid though I think it was called Starwing here in England (and Europe I think) because there was already something called Starfox trademarked here. I remember seeing in a SNES magazine them playing either the Japanese or US version as a preview and when they reviewed the PAL version they had changed the name to Starwing which was weird because I believe that an English company made the name. Or maybe I’m getting confused because an English company invented the Super FX chip which the SNES needed to do the graphics and Starfox was the first SNES game to use the Super FX chip followed by Doom, as I remember the Doom box and cartridge had the Super FX logo on it

    • @StillABigKid
      @StillABigKid 6 месяцев назад

      @nichhodge8503 it was made by an English developer, argonaut. If memory serves, there was a German game called starvox, or something like that, hence thw name change

  • @nichhodge8503
    @nichhodge8503 6 месяцев назад +2

    Can you just imagine if the Black Scorpion did the upside down bump in the corner then does the Flair Flop followed by him on his knees praying while shaking his head so everyone watching in the audience and on TV know it’s Ric Flair but Paul Heyman on commentary says “who is Black Scorpion?” (Then says “he’s shaking his head just like the Ultimate Warrior does. It’s gotta be the Ultimate Warrior!”)

  • @billbird6494
    @billbird6494 Год назад +12

    The Black Scorpion should have been revealed to be Sting doing a Jekyll and Hyde/Fight Club schitzo gimmick. The audience would be in on it but Sting would play it like he didn't know.

    • @pmc8451
      @pmc8451 Год назад

      How would that of worked in the ring exactly? I mean, I’ve seen a match between two invisible men and a matche between a man and a blow up doll but in the main event at Starrcade?

    • @billbird6494
      @billbird6494 Год назад +1

      @@pmc8451 Simple, don't have "Sting" in the match. Attacked and "injured" earlier by someone in the mask. Have Sting replaced by Luger for the reveal.

  • @BrimstoneButcher
    @BrimstoneButcher Год назад +24

    I was 8 years old when this Black Scorpion drama played out. Started out somewhat interesting, but went off the rails quick. The payoff was dreadful. Glad we can all collectively laugh about it to this day lol

    • @i.still.function3463
      @i.still.function3463 Год назад +6

      Lol as a kid even with the Flair reveal I thought it was on Bloodline story telling but as a adult now,LOL I wanna smack my self back then lol

    • @BrimstoneButcher
      @BrimstoneButcher Год назад +4

      @@i.still.function3463 yea lol. We didn’t have wrestling programming on television 7 days a week back then, so we took what we could get. It seems like WCW just didn’t have any good opponents for Sting at the time. He already had a run with Flair & it was getting old. Black Scorpion is so dumb, but at 8 years old I enjoyed it just the same. 😂

    • @dealerslicenseops
      @dealerslicenseops 2 месяца назад

      Al Perez was supposed to be the black scorpion, which also wouldn't have made much sense.

  • @ThornOfSociety
    @ThornOfSociety Год назад +13

    Thing is you can tell it is flair from the mouth and his pre-match psych up, he didn't exactly try to hide it. Which is likely how people in the crowd called it, given they were in the front few rows.

  • @Pariahcarey34
    @Pariahcarey34 Год назад +9

    ‘I’ll get you next time Stinger, next time!’ 🐈‍⬛ Reeeeeeaaaaaaoooowww

  • @pooddescrewch8718
    @pooddescrewch8718 Год назад +13

    The Black Scorpio angle was working . WCW got in its own way again .

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 11 месяцев назад

      Wait...it was supposed to be 2 Cold Scorpio all along??? I'm so confused now...

  • @PatrickGreeneFearwriter
    @PatrickGreeneFearwriter Год назад +11

    I was at the Asheville Civic Center the night that Al Perez played the Scorp. I saw Sting hanging out with Angel of Death in the loading area and since they trained together, I was sure he would be Scorp in the end.

  • @RingsideRebel785
    @RingsideRebel785 Год назад +15

    So... in kayfabe... Ric Flair is also a Vegas-style magician. Makes sense.

    • @Nillon24
      @Nillon24 Год назад +4

      The idea of Ric Flair kayfabe doing all of this is hilarious!

    • @rathraven1313
      @rathraven1313 5 месяцев назад +1

      That's how he escaped after being buried alive by Vince Russo.

    • @UncomfortableShoes
      @UncomfortableShoes 4 месяца назад +1

      His magician name is The Flair Ric

    • @dealerslicenseops
      @dealerslicenseops 2 месяца назад

      Fun sidebar: I know what bar ric hangs out at everyday here in Tampa. EVERYONE that has met him and is a huge fan (or was) says this: TRUST ME you do NOT want to meet him or talk to him. You will be so disappointed! He's such an a-hole!"

  • @WillCrigler
    @WillCrigler Год назад +10

    Ole Anderson trying his best Frank Welker impression.

  • @Hyde_Hill
    @Hyde_Hill Год назад +21

    You forgot to mention Al Perez as a possible Scorpion. Who did play him a couple of times. But apparently his bad backstage attitude cost him.

    • @pooddescrewch8718
      @pooddescrewch8718 Год назад

      Al notoriously refuses to be fucked around . They fucked him around and he walked away from without hesitation

    • @Dr_C_Smith
      @Dr_C_Smith 11 месяцев назад +2

      The Latin Heartthrob Al Perez.

  • @hatednyc
    @hatednyc Год назад +11

    Those poor bears.

  • @Thetoon25
    @Thetoon25 Год назад +14

    The back of the VHS cover of the pay per view showed you who won the main event!! 😂😂😂

    • @samspurgeon4222
      @samspurgeon4222 Год назад +5

      I don't think there were really any winners in this whole thing. 😂

    • @johneastwood3039
      @johneastwood3039 3 месяца назад

      So it does. I've had that VHS tape 25 years and I never even noticed that.

    • @Thetoon25
      @Thetoon25 3 месяца назад

      @@johneastwood3039 haha god bless WCW

  • @nichhodge8503
    @nichhodge8503 6 месяцев назад +2

    Heyman: “He can’t be in two places at once”
    Well he wasn’t in two places at once, he was in one end of the stage and 30 seconds later he was down the other side of the stage. It’s not like some quantum particles that are in one spot and disappears and are in another spot but there’s a split second where it disappears and reappear it’s actually in both places at the same time

  • @TheNeonParadox
    @TheNeonParadox Год назад +8

    "I will never need life insurance." I'm fecking dead! 😂😂😂

    • @TheEvolver311
      @TheEvolver311 Месяц назад

      To bad too, he would get right along with the Young Bucks today

    • @AnarchyClaire
      @AnarchyClaire 10 дней назад

      So's he

  • @ThePerks2010
    @ThePerks2010 11 месяцев назад +5

    My favourite story from this era is Herd trying to talk down to Shane Douglas "cos he was a wrestler" and Douglas using his double bachelor's in political science and history right back at him and herd instantly hating him

  • @Atomykpimp
    @Atomykpimp Год назад +6

    My brother and I were their at the Kiel Auditorium in 1990. As soon as The Black Scorpion came out we both look at each other and said Ric Flair.

    • @dealerslicenseops
      @dealerslicenseops 2 месяца назад

      and they didn't even have the black scorpion mask for flair. Also, flair's back bumps are landing on his side due to his plane crash so it was obvious who it was, lmao!

  • @damonodell9125
    @damonodell9125 Год назад +19

    Whats crazy is they could have had Taker in that role too. He was basically doing nothing at this point in WCW and left right around this time.

    • @mattlong81
      @mattlong81 Год назад +8

      He had already debuted the month before with WWF at Survivor Series. I want to say he left WCW right after Bash 90...

    • @damonodell9125
      @damonodell9125 Год назад +8

      @@mattlong81 his last run was versus a bunch of jobbers in September 1990. He was there when the ideas were being thrown around, a smart Booker would have taken one look at him and plugged him in that spot.

    • @pmc8451
      @pmc8451 Год назад +5

      @@damonodell9125 Putting an unknown, relatively green wrestler with no relationship with Sting in that spot would of made even less sense.

    • @da90sReAlvloc
      @da90sReAlvloc Год назад +3

      Could have been taker. Yeah cause he's from stings past all them. Matches they had, all that background. All that history,

    • @kurtvanderbogarde8402
      @kurtvanderbogarde8402 10 месяцев назад +1

      What sort of past did Mean Mark have with Sting?
      There was one guy they had on the books who did have an old bone to pick with Sting - Terry Taylor. They originally feuded in the UWF In 1987 and basically did a double turn. Babyfaces Taylor and Chris Adam's lost the UWF Tag titles to heels Sting and Rick Steiner, managed by Eddie Gilbert. Sting and Steiner then lost the belts to Brad Armstrong and Tim Horner after Eddie Gilbert screwed up interference, trying to hit Armstrong with his boot but getting Sting instead. Soon both tag teams were breaking up - Taylor blamed Adam's and Sting blamed manager Gilbert for the respective losses. It ended up with Taylor going heel and joining with Gilbert while Sting split from Gilbert. In the end, Sting and Chris Adams became allies, completing Sting's babyface turn.
      Now in 1990 when Taylor quit Red Roosting in the WWF, he returned to WCW, briefly as a Babyface before joining the York Foundation. But what if he had a more sinister plan to settle the score with his old UWF enemy the Stinger?

  • @johnathanrush4666
    @johnathanrush4666 Год назад +5

    Shoulda been you, Eddie.
    Shoulda been you.

  • @Brando-Lee3725
    @Brando-Lee3725 Год назад +20

    I still think all these years later that The Black Scorpion should have been Eddie Gilbert . It ties in to Stings past , he is a great heel , and could have been a top guy in the company after he was unmasked . Put him with a stable and it could've went on for a while . Just my opinion .

    • @SirPumpkinSlice
      @SirPumpkinSlice Год назад +5

      That is what I thought too. If Eddie had stuck around, they might have done that.

    • @davidlevy706
      @davidlevy706 Год назад +4

      I think he should have been the Shockmaster, more than 2 ½ years early.

    • @johnathanrush4666
      @johnathanrush4666 Год назад +1

      That would have been a fantastic reveal

    • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
      @amirpourghoureiyan1637 11 месяцев назад

      That’s a great angle, I’d want the magic stuff explaining so I’d personally go with Kevin Sullivan, helps that he’s an old guard wrestler already with a supernatural gimmick

    • @kurtvanderbogarde8402
      @kurtvanderbogarde8402 10 месяцев назад

      I've just suggested Terry Taylor which would make even more sense as he and Sting basically did a soft double turn in the UWF in 1987. Eddie Gilbert, Sting and Rick Steiner and Missy Hyatt had all worked out their kayfabe differences in late 88/early 89 and Gilbert had gone back to the USWA to be a heel and feud with Jerry Lawler and run him over with the car.

  • @mattm6580
    @mattm6580 Год назад +16

    Rick Rude and Ax had just left the WWF at this time. Either would have been a better choice than the easily recognizable Flair.

    • @christiankimock9284
      @christiankimock9284 Год назад +3

      Rude left in mid October, but had nearly one year remaining on his contract and was officially suspended without pay, which means the contract was still valid so it could not be him. He did make an appearance for TWA in May 1991.
      One guy who (probably) was available was One Man Gang/Akeem who quit the same week as Rude and won a Battle Royal in the USWA two weeks after Starrcade.

    • @damonodell9125
      @damonodell9125 Год назад +1

      Also Taker left WCW almost exactly this time too. They could have plugged him in 🤦

    • @QuentinDude
      @QuentinDude Год назад +3

      @@christiankimock9284 WWF's-on-air-angle-of-Rude-being-suspended-for-making-fun-of-BossMans-mother-might-be-one-of-the-stupidest-angles-ever-lol

    • @justinmartin1831
      @justinmartin1831 Год назад

      Ax was still there. He was at Survivor Series 90. He had a heart issue and that's why they brought in Crush and it a 3 man team so Ax didn't have to work much Warrior and LOD vs Demolition was running the house shows during fall of 90.

    • @zemaryan3446
      @zemaryan3446 Год назад

      with THAT mask Rude would have been a terrible idea

  • @heelturnsface
    @heelturnsface 3 месяца назад +3

    Sting never said anything about all the crappy things they did with/to him. They always screwed him over

  • @Dr_C_Smith
    @Dr_C_Smith 11 месяцев назад +4

    I love how Marc pronounces Ole like a Spanish matador rather than as the Scandinavian name.

  • @SaviorGabriel
    @SaviorGabriel Год назад +15

    The moral of the story: Never pitch stories in WCW as a joke. You never know when someone is gonna take that idea seriously.

    • @zorlack1966
      @zorlack1966 Год назад +6

      This rule also applies for TNA

    • @MrRyan-wu4jx
      @MrRyan-wu4jx 8 месяцев назад

      I think Ole is stretching the truth to try to save face. He probably thought this was a great idea at the time, he’s the man who gave us Shockmaster even after Herd was long gone.

    • @johneastwood3039
      @johneastwood3039 3 месяца назад

      I'm pretty sure Tony Schvonie pitched David Arquette winning the title as a joke.

    • @johneastwood3039
      @johneastwood3039 3 месяца назад

      ​@@MrRyan-wu4jxThe Shockmaster was the stupidest thing ever, even without the fall.

    • @SaviorGabriel
      @SaviorGabriel 3 месяца назад

      @@johneastwood3039 Hence the moral of the story. ;)

  • @Campcrystal1
    @Campcrystal1 Год назад +6

    Had his own little Spaceship 😂

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 11 месяцев назад +1

      You'd have thought the government would know about this, or sent Men In Black to WCW after they heard.

  • @joshuacampbell289
    @joshuacampbell289 9 месяцев назад +3

    Flair stepped up and took one for the team

  • @derekshropshire2513
    @derekshropshire2513 Год назад +5

    I will say growing up in NC in the 80's & 90's all you had to do was let out one good Wooo! And people would Wooo back from everywhere for 10 minutes 😂 in the arena, the parking lot, the concessions didn't matter people would run in from the next room Wooo

  • @SeanBright-c5o
    @SeanBright-c5o Год назад +4

    Heyman's got a very 'Bill Murray off his face at the end of Scrooged' vibe

  • @pendafen7405
    @pendafen7405 Год назад +3

    9:20 whoever performs the Black Scorpion there has lovely physical control of his performance

  • @samspurgeon4222
    @samspurgeon4222 Год назад +5

    The spaceship kinda looked more like a Chinese takeout box... 😂😂😂

  • @SirPumpkinSlice
    @SirPumpkinSlice Год назад +6

    Ole was manager of the Horsemen and featured on TV, so the scrambler was nessecary.
    If Eddie Gilbert had stuck around, he could have worked. With a few others as the dupes like Angel Of Death.
    I thought it was Rick Steiner as a kid. Which they brought up them being tagbpartners during Steiners squashes without mentioning Scorpion.

    • @Kaltagstar96
      @Kaltagstar96 Год назад

      I mean, wasn't Gilbert's voice also recognisable, didn't he also do some stuff with WCW / NWA before? I've never actually heard Gilbert cut a promo or anything.

  • @stevedevice1866
    @stevedevice1866 Год назад +3

    LOL... You coth-eared boofheags, Ole wasn't using any effects on his voice, he was just doing the cookie monster voice! hahahaha

    • @dealerslicenseops
      @dealerslicenseops 2 месяца назад

      He admitted he used a voice changer. See the shoot interview, lol

    • @dealerslicenseops
      @dealerslicenseops 2 месяца назад

      and what the hell is a "Coth earred boofhead"? ahahhaha

  • @gavinreid8937
    @gavinreid8937 Год назад +6

    Ole was also the voice of the Shockmaster!!!

  • @buzzbomb6650
    @buzzbomb6650 Год назад +6

    The magic stuff was just beyond dumb. Haha, thanks for another hilarious episode gentlemen.

  • @PedroBenolielBonito
    @PedroBenolielBonito Год назад +5

    At around 18:00 you can tell the crowd was into it until the reveal.

  • @rjjohnson2
    @rjjohnson2 Год назад +3

    Fun fact: one of the dudes who comes down the runway was The Angel of Death.

  • @chrismemphis8062
    @chrismemphis8062 Год назад +5

    1990's $19 in todays money is $46.90

  • @pendafen7405
    @pendafen7405 Год назад +3

    12:19 that looks like an Evangelion angel more than a classic UFO..

  • @mistereggman
    @mistereggman Год назад +2

    I'm not sure they were going for "father calming down a child who's seen something frightening at the zoo" with the JR/Heyman dynamic there.

  • @mox19380
    @mox19380 11 месяцев назад +5

    the most ridiculous part is, sting gets the belt from Flair at great american bash. tradition generally dictates taht the former champ gets a re-match. so basically they created an asinine gimmick all to end up with the match at starrcade that didn't need a gimmick.
    it truly had to be the low point of that era

    • @UncomfortableShoes
      @UncomfortableShoes 4 месяца назад

      Okay, so Flair lost. He gets a rematch automatically, so…
      I’ll stop you right there. Black. Scorpion.
      What?
      Someone calling themselves Black Scorpion will just fuck with Sting until Starrcade where they’ll challenge him for the title! It’ll be a big mystery before it’s finally revealed to be…Ric Flair
      What?

  • @InYourHeadChangedMan
    @InYourHeadChangedMan Год назад +8

    Too Cold Scorpio should have been the Black Scorpion

  • @cillablacksbackpack8524
    @cillablacksbackpack8524 Год назад +6

    I want that Black Scorpion VT sample with the voice scrambler for my jungle/DnB record

  • @Goawaykidyoubotherme
    @Goawaykidyoubotherme Год назад +8

    Dick the Bruiser was the best ref ever. Stay out of way and do nothing

  • @GamerForLifeDrakunia
    @GamerForLifeDrakunia Год назад +3

    Very well done gents.

  • @davidfrederick6003
    @davidfrederick6003 10 месяцев назад +1

    When the clue "Los Angeles 1986" was said back then I began thinking vague thoughts of Jim Hellwig (Blade Runner tagteam partner).

  • @L_Train
    @L_Train Год назад +3

    I remember Tulsa. I was driving through there when I heard this.

  • @martinwalton9307
    @martinwalton9307 Год назад +8

    What a shambles of an angle! Totally killed Sting's run. If they had to go through with it, they couple of had Terry Funk under the mask and that would of played into the previous years fued.

    • @Kaltagstar96
      @Kaltagstar96 Год назад +3

      I mean, I don't know if it killed Sting's run, he didn't do too badly for himself all things considered.

  • @frankieh
    @frankieh Год назад +4

    Price of wrestling t-shirts hasn't gotten any better.

  • @gashmcnash3537
    @gashmcnash3537 Год назад +4

    Sting’s scorpion jacket is 🔥

  • @nick56677
    @nick56677 Год назад +6

    They were portaying the Black Scorpion as either Warrior or Hogan. Maybe both, whoever they could get quicker when they were trying. 1986, Sting was tagged with Warrior. Also in 86, he worked out with Hogan a lot in Venice Beach

    • @dealerslicenseops
      @dealerslicenseops 2 месяца назад

      Yep. i thought they were intentionally implying it would be ultimate warrior. I suspect warrior knew his time in WWF was running out and was in talks that never materialized. That may explain why they stretched it out as long as they did without any real plan. The vignettes probably cost a few bucks to make, cheap and easy.

  • @EmperorMAR
    @EmperorMAR Год назад +6

    Wow, the Ric Flair surprise is so bad that I can't believe I haven't heard of the black scorpion being a magician for months and hypnotizing people. Which to me hypnosis is like the worst thing you can do in wrestling, so phony. But I love to seeing the woman attack Sting so I guess I feel different now.

  • @UMAMIMAMU
    @UMAMIMAMU 4 месяца назад +3

    Can't believe they failed to comment on how Ole Anderson's voice with the voice modulator at 2:36 is the exact same voice he used for the legendary Shockmaster bit.

  • @XmasTvElf
    @XmasTvElf 2 месяца назад +1

    Paul Heyman, “I saw the Black Scorpion take a lady & make a baby with the lady & the baby looked at me”

  • @Dr.JeremyDunks
    @Dr.JeremyDunks Год назад +9

    I would love it if you guys did a video on Johnny Saint and his reprise into wrestling. It's such a nice, heartwarming story. To have the pleasure of watching him ply his craft after he sort of became a hermit and lost faith in his ability (majesty) was really something special. The US fans really loved him, and I am certain he didnt expect that.

    • @twilliamspro
      @twilliamspro Год назад

      His interview with Colt cabana around that time is interesting

    • @kurtvanderbogarde8402
      @kurtvanderbogarde8402 10 месяцев назад

      @@twilliamspro Hate Colt Cabana for the silly comedy match he did with Nigel McGuiness at Coventry SkyDome that was billed as World of Sport The Next Generation. James Mason and Dean Allmark should have got that gig.

  • @i.still.function3463
    @i.still.function3463 Год назад +4

    No lie as a kid I thought this was 1 of the coolest stories EVERRRR in Wrestling. When the Network started I rewatch the match and my childhood was destroyed ! 🤣

  • @Garrywith2rs
    @Garrywith2rs Год назад +3

    That second woo was a Stinger scream.
    Borrowed the video from Blockbusters back in the day, no idea it was Flair, did none of his moves. Agree, looking back the ending payoff was a bit bleurgh.

  • @JaceyMitchell
    @JaceyMitchell 8 месяцев назад +1

    The voice modulated Ole Anderson voice really just sounds like an angry Fozzie Bear from the Muppets. Just imagine him saying "Waka waka" and you'll hear it.

  • @tims1979
    @tims1979 Год назад +4

    Luger could have worked as the reveal. The story of him being jealous of Sting winning the title. Something he could never do. Was right there.

  • @DavidKRoebuck
    @DavidKRoebuck Год назад +2

    The Black Scorpion sounds exactly like Ole Anderson doing a voice

  • @csaenz1328
    @csaenz1328 3 месяца назад +1

    The Black Scorpion went on to reveal The Secrets of Wrestling on a Fox TV show

  • @white6delta
    @white6delta Год назад +5

    I was 12 and thought it was a thrilling storyline 😂😂😂

  • @dealerslicenseops
    @dealerslicenseops 2 месяца назад +1

    I remember my friend begged his father to buy this PPV. His dad was a legit tough guy, 250 lbs, jacked, worked an oil rig. "You wanna watch this crap". "C'mon dad, I'll mow the lawn for the rest of the year, wash your car, anything!". Finally the dad caved. Dad decided to watch it with us. When the spaceship came down and it ended up being ric flair my friends dad kicked his as.s. I barely made it out the door. Then a few months later we ran up a $300 phone bill calling the mean gene hotline. In the 80's $300 would feed a family for a month and was like a week or two's pay. His mom beat him with a belt as I once again made my escape.

    • @A_YouTube_Commenter
      @A_YouTube_Commenter 2 месяца назад

      OMG, this made me laugh my ass off. I remember talking a friend into ordering the 92 Royal Rumble and his alcoholic dad exploded when the cable bill came in.

    • @dealerslicenseops
      @dealerslicenseops 2 месяца назад

      @@A_RUclips_Commenter I will raise you with this one: I conned all the neighborhood kids into chipping in to get the survivor series. Everyone chipped in on the ppv and we paid this chick's grandma to buy the PPV for us. This turned out to be the event with the gobbeldy gooker. The entire room wanted me to refund their money. Roddy Piper yelled "The kids love it!" and that made it even worse for me. As if I'd have known vince ribbed poor chavo sr into wearing the gooker costume!

    • @christopherwall2121
      @christopherwall2121 2 месяца назад

      ​@@dealerslicenseops I guess they weren't too impressed with the Undertaker either, then?
      Also, it was Hector in the suit, not Chavo Sr.

  • @Kaltagstar96
    @Kaltagstar96 Год назад +3

    You know what? Black Scorpion kinda seems a bit like the American version of Kendo Nagasaki with the voice of Doctor Claw from Inspector Gadget; I half expect him to start shaking his fist and screaming "I'll get you next time Sting, next time!!"

    • @dealerslicenseops
      @dealerslicenseops 2 месяца назад

      Funny sidebar: an MMA league (Bellator) tried stealing this gimmick. TITO ORTIZ.....this man is from your PAST....do you know who THIS MAN IS and it was some huge samoan dude wearing a mask with fish nets over it. He took it off and literally, not one person in the crowd knew WTF it was. It went over like a wet turd in church. Look it up. They boosted it for sure from black scorpion!

  • @billbird6494
    @billbird6494 Год назад +4

    Nigel McGuinness should bring back the black Scorpion gimmick as a magician/wrestler.

  • @johnepants
    @johnepants 5 месяцев назад +2

    It’s amazing how the WWF was able to really do the supernatural stuff with the Undertaker so well while WCW crapped the bed with the Black Scorpion

  • @kimbob5
    @kimbob5 Год назад +3

    This whole angle was bollocks, I love it.

  • @frankrivers5341
    @frankrivers5341 11 месяцев назад +2

    I have a total "Mandela effect" thing about this reveal being very different.

    • @Millwall77
      @Millwall77 3 месяца назад

      So what was your memory of it?

  • @PedroBenolielBonito
    @PedroBenolielBonito Год назад +1

    Heyman acting his heart out, and I'm just looking at the cartoon duck sweater of the woman behind JR.

  • @maxtracker2904
    @maxtracker2904 Год назад +4

    Anyone else find “Sting’s Mum” weirdly attractive? 😍

  • @MeThinks995
    @MeThinks995 Год назад +2

    Wow and Vince Mchman did the same thing with the “Higher Power” angle” with Steve Austin in 98’. Weird.

  • @ChickensinHighDef
    @ChickensinHighDef Год назад +3

    I'm starting to accept that you guys pronouncing it "Oh-LAY" instead of "OH-lee" is intentional. 😂

  • @Brent-Tanabe
    @Brent-Tanabe Год назад +2

    OMG The Black Scorpion is the Shockmaster! 😱🤣

  • @kurtvanderbogarde8402
    @kurtvanderbogarde8402 10 месяцев назад +1

    The worst thing about the Black Scorpion is that a couple of weeks later an ageing short haired old man Ric LUCKS his way into regaining the World title. It does nothing for business, it cuts short what should have ben a year long title reign for Sting ending in loss to Lex Luger. and to top it all off Flair now admits he was having a breakdown and was in no state to be champion. plus who could cheer Flair as a patriotic American against Fujinami, or take El Gigante seriously as a World title challenger?

    • @kurtvanderbogarde8402
      @kurtvanderbogarde8402 10 месяцев назад +1

      It was, of course Ole Anderson 's dumb idea to put the belt back on Flair at a time when everyone was Sick of him.

  • @samspurgeon4222
    @samspurgeon4222 Год назад +5

    I think having his mom would have been brilliant.,..also, the Price Is Right sound when Ultimate Warrior said he didn't need life insurance made me laugh til I cried 😂

  • @TheHermitsQuarters
    @TheHermitsQuarters Год назад +2

    Jim and Paul are clearly working.
    Y'all are marks.
    ... and I love you for it!

  • @PtolemyJones
    @PtolemyJones Год назад +3

    The angle was going well back in the day, though now I recognize Ole's voice now that you tell me. Didn't know that before.
    It really wasn't until the pointless reveal, as you say.
    Flair did cut his hair for this angle, so the short hair itself wouldn't have been a give away.
    Sting did the woo back then, pretty sure the woos from the crowd were pro-Sting.
    Hey, was one of his henchman that Angel of Death guy you mentioned?
    At the time the story was it was supposed to be Paul Orndorff, but Mr. Wonderful left the company just before the reveal. That might have worked.
    I feel like the reputation of the angle feels like people who say the Shockmaster was a bad angle, when we never saw the actual angle, because of the stumble.

  • @jimtheyid
    @jimtheyid Год назад +1

    Remember this like it was yesterday,the memories of staying up till 3-4 am channel 4 😂

  • @joegausch
    @joegausch Год назад +2

    When the Black Scorpion first appeared with his " clues " i.e. Tulsa, Los Angeles '86 on the beach sounded like a gay jilted lover to me....

    • @set1237
      @set1237 11 месяцев назад +1

      On the beach, think about it...🍆

  • @jamesblevins5088
    @jamesblevins5088 Год назад +3

    Yesssss! I have been waiting for this!

  • @toma.4808
    @toma.4808 Год назад +3

    The black scorpion shouldve been someone completely out of nowhere. Shame it wasnt someone like jake roberts or someone who left the wwf at the time.Had this been done right it couldve been huge.

  • @williamrockwell9705
    @williamrockwell9705 2 месяца назад +1

    The original "It was me all along Austin".