Film photography before Photoshop | Photoshop 25th Anniversary
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I'm 17 and have a darkroom in my bedroom. Analog forever changed the way I shoot. I barely touch my DSLR any more. And I'm looking forward to getting a color setup very soon.
Keep at it. Analogue is so much more satisfying and as you have probably noticed, makes you consider your image making so much more.
And now you are 20 and me 17.
Waiting for the next one in 3 years telling me the same thing ha ha :)
have u got insta with your photos?
atta boy!
remember though: digital is ALSO good, VERY good, in its own rights!
and the combination of both film (chemical) photography plus digital together makes (near-)perfect imagery possible! (~ film photographer since the mid-1960s speaking here!) :-)
here's my motto in this regard based on extensive experience in both fields:
Shoot film, scan your negatives (or slides) and then edit in digital; finally, print on chemical-based photographic paper for best possible results!
@@dadautube I'm getting into this process too, except I still need to figure out the steps from reversing a digital image back to an analog. The options I found (negative printer eg) are very expensive tho. Atm I wanna experiment with transparencies that could be used for the chemical print. Any suggestions?
I love this... For years when teaching PhotoShop I would stop when we got to the dodge and burn tools and ask if anyone knew why they were represented by the "O" shaped hand and a "lollypop". Usually only one of two would actually know. We'd then reflect on how computer UIs are rapidly outgrowing the real world metaphors they were originally based on.
I too rarely use my DSLR anymore. I have bought a lot film equipment such as enlargers and cameras that people thought they didn't need anymore for real cheap. It's very satisfying to develop and print my own photographs.
Thanks for bringing back old memories. When I was a kid, my grandfather had a darkroom and he used to show me the techniques. technology has made the process easier, but it has killed the craftsmanship and charm. Today Photoshop can create thousands of effects in no time, but it will never be able to provide the joy of developing the image by hand.
Thank you Lynda.com for including analog photography in your library of great videos/workshops.
That brought back happy memories of time spent in RAF Camera Club darkrooms in the 1950s - dodging with a bit of cotton wool on the end of a wire, burning with hands moving all the time - excellent video.
My first 'real' camera was a nearly new Zorki 4 in 1978 when I was 18 years old given to me by a work mate. I'm 58 now and although I have a digital camera, I still love film photography more. I did a college course (A-Level Photography) here in the UK and enjoyed the film and dark-room much more than the digital side. One other amusing thing to remember - if there's a long-term electrical power outage, film photographers will rise again...Lol.... Joking apart Konrad, great tutorial. Thanks for posting.
I love film, used it for 30years..still do.
Darkroom printing still holds my imagination, though I haven’t done any in years. 2019 will be the year.
Konrad, I’m in Norman, too. Would love to buy you a cup of coffee and hear your stories.
I have set up my darkroom finally., Having started shooting film back in the late nineties and not being forced to go digital, and sell all my film kit. I stuck with analogue. I knew film photography would not die out! even my sons are shooting b/w and enjoying seeing their photos being printed in the Darkroom , Best Jonathan
oh nostagies times!!!! analogic photography!!!!. so many remembering moments. so many amazing oportunities to burn in our hart.
whats a lot of changes, and whats a lot of similarities.
nostalgie and love for this beatiful woman, "the photography".
thanks man for this vídeo.
You do have a sharpening tool in the darkroom, though. The term "unsharp mask" itself is actually a throwback to when people would use an out of focus of photographic positive in a process to increase accutance in the final image. The unsharp mask was an actual physical object.
(Obviously, you should always get exact focus anyway, but still.)
Film photoghaphy is a poem!!!
This was great fun to watch it all again. I spent 20 years doing newspaper sports photography, pushing processing film and eventually into color. My color major was photo illustration and had a good background in high school and college with darkroom work. I often made 11 x14" double weight, archival photos.
I too miss the old days and the chemistry that was available. It is a shame that most photographers ( I like to call them shooters as they can take a zillion photos and then edit) never will experience the joys of working in a darkroom and with real film.
Thanks for sharing.
If you haven’t tried film photography, you should! It’s fun and not that difficult just pricey.
YES! More love for analog photography! Film Love Lives On - analog photography is beautiful.
As someone who started on digital and shoots a lot of film, but cant self-develop, this was amazing to watch. Equating what you're doing (foreign to me) to its photoshop equivalent (familiar) really breaks it down and makes it seem so fun and interesting.
You've definitely reaffirmed my dream to build a darkroom!
More in the darkroom please this was awesome. Could not care less about Photoshop though. This man knows his stuff and I am starting in the darkroom again so I sure appreciate his sharing this knowledge.
I prefer the darkroom, myself.
Same here. I've being using Photoshop for 25 years, or at least it feels like 25 years. Set up a darkroom last year after 20 year absence, just love it.
He's got a whole video series about darkroom printing on Lynda.com. Just look for Konrad Eek.
I fully agree Mr Breedlove...:)
Awesome to see the the old techniques compared with how they were made digital in Photoshop. Although I love Photoshop, your traditional methods produced rich and beautiful results. Thank you!
Wonderfully explained ,narrated and shot ...
Thank you for this clip, absolutely fascinating and informative.
Analog has texture and soul digital will never reach
you can perfectly recreate analogs imperfections in digital, and also do more. you got it backwards, if you think rationally about it instead of sentimentally
Love seeing those finished fiber prints in plastic white print trays!
When a house catches on fire, people go back in to save their family photographic prints and negatives collections made from traditional processes.
I was a custom color and B+W printer in the film days. I am just now learning Photoshop. This actually helps me to understand Photoshop! Thanks.
I started out in photography just 8 months ago, with a film SLR and i thought i would learn with it and then get a DSLR, but i've realised i don't want a DSLR anymore... film i just so much more satisfying and authentic.
I worked in a custom photo-lab (color and B&W printing) for over 15 years and then switched to Photoshop. I miss it now.
Spraying and praying with shots is part of the Macro process a lot of the time, hoping you nailed that paper thin focus on a spiders eyes, but there is definitely something we lost since the old limitations of shots. If there's ever a video that made me want to try limiting how many photos I take on an outing, this would be it.
This was a great video.
Oh man this brings back the memories. My dad worked in a photo darkroom for around 10 years, and I remember watching him work a few times. I didn't really understand how it all worked back then, but it's really cool to revisit it :) I essentially grew up with Photoshop, from version 2 to CC nowadays.
Danny Zabolotny
That gradient burn is insane!
i love that you were able to film the video in the darkroom
Yes, incredible.
+mashersmasher It's a darkroom but he had the safe light on during the video. Its safe to print with the safe light but not to develop film.
+Louis Hartley it's safe to develop. Helps to put print face down for half the time.
Igaluit I said film not the print.
Oh yes of course. I'll ask for my money back for that speed reading course.
I do b&w darkroom printing, including plenty of dodging an burning, but I've always wondered what the old "airbrushing" technique looks like.
Ansel Adams was a master at doing these things.
Yessssss!! you are soooooo unless cool.man!!!!
That is, what I mean with my photography!!
Analog ist the only real reason!!
Thank you sooo much!!!
Oh, to the memories! Trapped in a VERY dark room, lit by a very dim red light, no one to talk to. The radio was nice. I remember dodging and burning with a mask and then the retouching paints! From light gray to greenish-gray to deep black and everything in between, and only to be used on low ISO film. (Unless you used a tiny, tiny sponge to match the grain that you wanted.) Everything in Photoshop, especially 25 years ago, was based on these tools. Lately, those born to late to remember don't know where the terms came from. They should do some darkroom work. Just to know what the early photographers had to do.
Yeah, it was magical. But after 35 prints of one negative to get exactly what you needed and wanted, all praise digital image editing!!! 🤗
But seriously, that one special print you'd get to tell a story in light and shadow was worth it. It was indeed magical. Would I try it again? Maybe once. Just to compare.
Konrad - what a terrific explanation of dodging & burning. Great tutorial. Thanks.
One Kodak two Kodak, but uses Ilford. One Ilford, two Ilford. Good Video. Thank you!
Божественный видос, за 9 минут вся история обработки
I remember all the great hours spent in the darkroom under red light back in high school. I would to be able to get into a darkroom and process/print b&w again!
Precious. Thanks for sharing!
Wow. Really great idea to present this concept. Brings a lot of things into perspective when using Photoshop.
can't help but watch this with a smile on my face. this was really interesting.
Thanks, Konrad. Took me back a few years!
Really good job on demo-ing the analogue origins of various common tools in Photoshop.
Wow beautiful craftsmanship
True art of photography!
Really enjoyed this. Takes me back to the mid sixties when i had High School Photography classes!
this video bring so much memories.
that's amazing work right there!
That sounds stupid but i always wondered why the icons for Dodge and Burn look like this. Now i know it, thanks :)
I developed film in a darkroom. When I was a kid, I was going to make a darkroom in a storage closet in my basement. I like film and digital. You know Ansel Adams? But do you know Arbrie Bodine? He was a photographer for the Baltimore Sun news paper. My girlfriend bought me a book of his photos. Beautiful black and white photos. I like color as well.
Very cool, thanks for sharing. Konrad seems like a great guy.
If you're dodging you got the exposure wrong. Dodge only as a last resort, control the light - understand the light and how your film reacts to the light. Then make the appropriate choices with your chemicals and how you use them and the length of time you use them for as well as your ratios of developer v water.
thanks for this. I used to have my own darkroom and loved printing. this brings back a lot of fond memories. I was discussing this very subject with a friend earlier so I sent him a link to the video.
Don't know about photoshop but you gave me some good advice for my desire to improve my prints in the analog darkroom ......More please.:)
wow! I've never knew about all this process ... my respect
amazing to see these techniques in practice
Really great video. I saw a photo of Ansel Adams doing similar tricks and was always very interested in these techniques.
Fantastic video!
This was such a wonderful explanation of the process and how it translates to Photoshop. I'm also very happy that this wasn't a petty PS is better or film is better argument but instead championed the value of both.
No idea how i ended up here but wow so glad i did. This was amazing
Great video, and so well demonstrated and explained.
You are good and I wish you were in Atlanta, GA because I would learn from you. Thanks for sharing;
I prefer to use splitgrade printing for bringing the most out of both the dark and ligt areas. But it depends on what paper you use and your workflow
Hi,
Arrived there by chance...amazing.
Thank you to share this.
Regards
Fantastic.
Darkroom work can be revitalized. Now there is ever expanding options in the field of digital negatives and digital enlargers. Nothing beats the blacks on silver gelatin print.
This is a great video, thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge...
WOW!! This was superb!! Thank you so much for this video. Makes me understand Photoshop a bit better.
Wooow thank you for share 😍😍😍😍🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I would pay good money to have someone teach me how to do this day by day....
How much nostalgia!
Top video!
ONE koDaK TWO KodAK
Unsharp Masking was also a darkroom technique long before photoshop.
Awesome
Great!
Amazing
back when client respected your work because photography was a really about skill and craft, the sheer time, effort and cost into making an image meant client and ad firms and photographer really respected the work they do.
now? we shoot a 1000+ images in a day, rapid firing every conceivable angle there is to "cover our arses" and then stitching things together to get the perfect fake image , skill and craft ? yes! but respect? no more
Jeff Chen Couldn't of sad it better. late 80's early 90's Studied at School Visual arts , Parsons and the ICP been into photography for over 25yrs. Now the human touch and the craftsmanship is over. Sold all my hassy and Pentax 6X7 equipment but will NEVER give up my 2, most loved, Rolleiflex twin lenses.
If you really believe this you probably aren't part of the trade anymore. It's fucking hard and good photography is appreciated, digital or film doesn't matter
I think the better you get with digital photography the fewer images you take. So the amateur may take a 1,000 images and hopefully will find one from the right angle and sharp enough and then he can edit it and get a composition close to what it required. The pro will probably take 100 shots which is about 8 rolls of 120. Not really that different to what was taken in a 12 hour day in a studio. The pro will work the same angles, come up with the same concepts, put in the years of making fundamental errors, know how to use the light, how to get the best out of their talent etc etc. Sure they remove a strand of hair in Photoshop, but that was physically painted out in the darkroom and composite images were made in printing. Talent will always rise and top photographers can still use their Hasselblads, and mega expensive lighting, but they will only start to rise when they stop taking 1,000 images and start considering each one and what they want that image to say. One great image is still one great image, and a thousand crap images are still a thousand crap images. I love shooting film, developing and printing in the darkroom, but I also love shooting digital. They are different mediums for collecting the data, but great photographers still have to have the years of hard work and learning become great.
There's often not enough time to shoot 1,000 images at every conceivable angle for any given set-up. Yes, there are maybe more set-ups required, but you have to get it right pretty quickly and move on. And that means knowing what you're doing so well, you can keep up the pace. That's not every shoot maybe, but many clients are very demanding about the time.
Wow, slow down on over-generalizing now. I'm a still-life photographer, and I shoot maybe 5-10 images per products... if you look at people like Karl Taylor he can spend a long time before pressing the shutter. If you want to get respected you have to show a vision. If you shoot in studio you have to come up with a solid plan, a concept, to sell to your client. You have to ask the right questions and get the right answers... sometimes you don't ask enough and you end up having to re-shoot everything.
Back in the days I guess (I'm quite young) this was something mandatory, as one couldn't see the results and adjust on the fly. You had to prepare everything. Of course that is for studio photography, but this apply as well to the streets : scout your location, wait for the right light, frame your shot, wait for the right moment.... "click"
The preparation of a shot have never changed, except for manual metering - which you still have to do when using manual flash tho... Now indeed if you shoot sport of event shooting thousands of shots sometimes ain't uncommon, but in my experience, you delete 90% of them. Only fools hand 800 shots to their clients - for what? Most clients don't know how to choose anyway... I hand a good client who know and respect my work one final image per product...
If your client don't trust you enough to do that, there is something ain't working on your part. You know your craft, prove it.
Work with people who respect it. They still exist - plenty of them still exist...
Simply people forgot what great photography is. They need to be guided.
great one !! know where you came from 'photoshoppers' LOL ..
then again ... after developing both images you can scan them and pick portions of each you liked best... and merge them in PS.. :-D ..
thanks for the tutorial.. the magic of the darkroom is something very unique indeed ! :-D
It's a magic!
I'd love more of his edits and pictures.
"Oh yeah, so you just press the button, right?"
Amazing. Thanks for showing this.
This is beautiful and inspiring!
incredible work, took time and afford. !
This was amazing. More of this would be great. Either way going to look into a class to do this myself
Thank you for this.
Excellent video - very well explained!
Thanks for sharing these. I will be trying them out in my darkroom.
Happy 25 Anniversary
This was such a great video! Thanks for posting!
Nice!
This is awesome. Wish I had the same talent.
Thanks for Konrad Eek sharing
this is an amazing video
I so miss developing and printing my own b&w stuff.😢
Chapeau
I did take photgraphy in high school, so this is all familiar to me!
So cool! Thanks for the explanation and great video :)
This is great, thank you. Could you make another video making colour prints?