I play goalie a lot and the first tip I recommend to new players learning goalie is that "You are the only one that matters". Forwards up until higher elos are highly unreliable and can't be trusted to help you out when you need it, not to mention that no matter how badly your team may be at scoring, if you aren't winning, you are usually the first to be blamed. For those reasons, follow your own pace and do what you can, bc when it comes down to it, you are the only one preventing the enemy team from winning.
I play Asher goalie and my biggest complaint is that my team is always trying to do my job instead of bullying the other forwards. I promise I will clear it but you standing right in front of me is annoyingly ineffective
I don't understand how you block anything against half decent players. As soon as the ball gets to the crease line you can't do anything. You wait it just rolls in, you hit they ping pong and it go's in, you hit away they can still hit it and still go's in. So unfun
@@banechrismon6051 Not only that, sometimes I'm trying to clear the ball, and my "defender" passes it to the enemy instead. Some of these types leave the goal zone less often than I do.
@Darkknightx09 well this game is heavily biased towards using angles. Using your side barries can help you clear the ball, and the way the sides work provide many opportunities for you to be able to clear the ball. Also, the way you clear the ball depends on what striker you use. For example, using Kai means that you hit the ball with an ability way before it even gets close to you, whereas using Asher means that you use an ability while on top on of an opponent to be able to clear the ball
@@darkknightx0992 best way is to hit to the left or right and find openings. It's called juggling. Not to much content for this game yet but similar thing in rocket league. Ie, forward right in front of you, throw it directly to the right side of the goal, it will bounce back to you as they chase it and you throw it a different direction.
I honestly appreciate the fact that you included the wins and losses. It is a very humbling experience to not only know but see that we goalies have to start somewhere.
I think some other highly important things are the value of waiting to hit the core and learning when to use abilities to stop an enemy from stuffing it through.
I always used to take strike shot but i changed to momentum boots, having speed in this game is too important to pass up since it lets you position yourself a lot faster. While strike shot is good, it's all still dependent on cooldowns whilst momentum boots will always be active and help with fundamentals
That's a fair point! I could definitely see momentum boots being a better pick if you weren't able to trust in your forwards as much. Strike Shot allows you to influence the midfield more and give your forwards a little extra pressure to be able to score goals and barriers, but if they can't do that and the enemy keeps getting the core to you, then Momentum Boots will really shine.
It depends on the enemy comp IMO, if they're playing an aggressive comp that will harass and try to KO you a lot Momentum Boots won't do much for you since you'll constantly be getting hit.
When I taught my friends how to play, the first things I focused on was aiming first. Aim and just use strikes, it teaches them timing and how to actually aim, and I get them to play characters that use melee only. This also covers the point you made about developing crutches, it stops them from developing those. Then I get them to learm how to use abilities afterwards, what this does is they have learned how to aim, and that makes them better at just doing everything. I'm in my 30's and I've mostly taught others in their 30's, even a lady in her 40's.
@@Gatoxintoga892 I actually got annoyed at one friend who was like, "I feel I just can't compete with these kids, they're so fast." I proceeded to yell I was older than him.
@@MeatyZeeg Hahaha it may or may not be true depending on perspective but even then I've seen a lot of ppl in their 30s - 40s able to do very well in games revolving around PvP even being better than us teens especially fighting games since I have been utterly destroyed by a group of old uncles at Tekken
For goalie I like to run speed boots on Strikers like Asher or Atlas since they’re slow and their secondaries are on long cool downs they’re pressed for coverage of the goal, giving them boots gives them more agency over more of the goal
One of my biggest advice as someone who almost exclusively plays goalie is... QUICK STRIKE. Assuming you don't get the IDEAL awakening, Quick Strike is one of the absolute best goalie buffs. I've had so many games where I only managed to protect BECAUSE of QS. In a worst case scenario where you're being double teamed by enemy forwards, pingponging is inevitable and QS can help you defend long enough to get your Special
Can't believe you didn't mention Asher as a possible Goalie pick! Her Primary is extremely good to take away the ball from very aggressive Forwards and her Wall can be used very well to block of areas to keep the ball on the other side of the field. Especially when you get some range up the wall can be used to contest at very long ranges to help out your own Forwards while keeping the ball away from your own goal. (tbf the Asher rework that came out after the video's release buffed her Primary a lot for playing as Goalie, but it was still good before)
Honestly, it's been long enough that I don't remember, but I'm pretty sure I said the list I gave wasn't a comprehensive one... maybe I didn't... I do plan on doing yet another goalie video though, that will be, well, more comprehensive!
@@aerialsnack It wasn't meant as criticism, don't worry. I was just kinda surprised she wasn't mentioned and also wanted to give another option to people who might be looking at the comments after watching the video.
Sick tutorial man, I'm mot even a goalie and I've learned more from it than from any other tutorial that's out already. Btw, you said you are better at forward, do you plan on making a tutorial for forwards as well? Edit: I wrote this comment before seeing the outro, I c I'm looking forward to a forward tutorial ❤
You gave some really solid advice, I particularly like the point you made about being consistent in striking so as to avoid using your abilities as a crutch. I'm high gold myself but will def recommend this to my friends hanging out in silver, maybe it'll help them improve so I can play forward for once 🙏🗿
The only goalie gear I'd really call bad is Pauldrons (I guess atlas can use it?). Momentum boots is great for melee goalies like asher and can give you an edge on difficult to defend maps like oni village or atlas arena. Eject button is a war crime on any goalie with a long ranged secondary because it lets you have three forwards in the enemy goal. And strike shot is of course, the go-to for any ranged goalie (and even good on melees who want a ranged hit).
I used to go for Pauldrons but I noticed that Atlas basically can't die, he's pretty tanky and can revive itself or heal, so I use the Boots because I can't aim the Strike Shot (Playing on Nintendo Switch).
HOLY SHIT I almost spat my food when you mentioned the ping ponging. That is so crucial and I don't think most players understand that til higher levels
As someone who recently picked up this game, I can def agree with the picking up of bad habits. A lot of my gameplay has been casual so I've really just been messing around and experimenting. I enjoy being able to be an aggressive goalie so eject button has been my go too. With Vyce coming out I have been in love with Eject Button Vyce and have seen success. HOWEVER I have noticed my base striking to be lacking and this vid did a number on my mental to put me in a mindset to actual push ranked. I'll def have to jump in to more Atlas & Kai style goalies even more than I've already played. AWESOME 👌 tutorial. Keep the content comin
Pro league player here; first thing first, strike shot isn’t that good. Most of the characters will benefit more from other gears( like eject on kai).Also, as an advice, don’t forget you can dribble of the tiny walls in your goal. This can come in clutch as it gives you somewhere to dribble and wait until an opportunity to clear comes
I was playing Juliette in high plat and kept getting frustrated with my goalies, but I could never win a game as goalie myself. I found that I too struggle hitting the core with my regular strikes I'm quite good at sniping goals with quick combos on Juliette, along with players that go a little too close to the edge when camping orbs But the game is Omega Strikers, and I wasn't a striker, just an "Ability-er" I'm currently trying my hand at learning the goalie role in normals, and I have a LOT to learn.
I agree with almost everything you said in this video, however i cant in good faith recommend taking anything but eject button on characters like aimi and luna. The value of being able to influence midfield and then pop back in the net is too high. Also it lets you bait out an x ult and then blink away from him and keep the ball in their half before teleporting back. Sometimes its about how you shut down the enemy forwards over how you influence the ball.
It's funny because I was talking to one of the top Luna players the other day, and he said that he thinks Strike Shot is the best gear for her, but NONE of the top players actually use it, him included. So, you can take whatever you'd like!
Gonna watch this later, but last couple games last night no matter how I approached and attacker trying to score the puck would just go through my hitbox.
Dubu was who I mained as a starting goalie I would recommend him as a basic he teaches you how to be proactive and reactive. He's forgiving with basic hits. If he's banned play Atlas or Kai. I got to gold during beta as goalie. All very good advice just work on what you feel you need to.
2:40 I mean both of Atlas' abilities both have a delay. There is a game where I played like that because no abilities where needed (I thanks my allies for their perfect positioning).
I started just recently and was blasting people with Luna, yet when I got to play her as goalie I already knew I immediately had to prioritize the goal over harrass, kills, aggression... its a reason I dont like Luna goalie as much as fwd, even if it is more suitable and workable.
You might have to prioritize defending more with Luna as goalie, but with eject button you have the freedom to leave the goal to put pressure on the other side every once in a while with B.O.O.S.T., and the ability to confirm goals or KO enemy forwards or goalies can give a similar feel to being a forward. It's more that while strike shot might give you a new ability in the form of the projectile, it makes your secondary nearly useless, as using it will consistently put you out of position and highly vulnerable to getting scored on, and on the other hand, eject button lets you leave goal frequently, but if you don't use it with restraint you will find yourself out of position very often too. Personally speaking, being both an eject button Luna main and having played a lot of Luna forward before learning about eject button, the pacing can be very different. If you enjoy the experience of capitalizing on opportunities and sniping the core from across the field, I would recommend goalie (with eject button), but if you prefer to be in the fray all of the time, then I would suggest forward. It's really up to personal taste, but there's no other goalie quite like eject button Luna, even if eject button AI.mi or Kai can come kind of close.
@@m42564I try but it feels so different because I need to defend. Normally as Luna I'm aggressive and reckless, I harm the enemy and try to knock them out. I don't have to worry about the barrier as much.
I honestly reccomend kai for lower level players looking to improve(and who isnt looking to improve that's watching this video). He's just so... basic, in the best possible way. He's just better than Dubu in every way too, his primary and secondary are practically straight upgrades to dubus exploitable tools. Odds are any trouble with kai will transfer over to every other goalie. Also, agree that strike shot is probably the best due to most goalies loving long range projectiles, but the actual shot on the strike is probably carried by all your Ai Mi play. It automatically goes off whenever you strike, so more strike based goalies will often end up wasting it. So like, one more point towards eject button, but honestly still stick with strile shot Kai until you're in a high enough elo to be baller reliably. High range barrage is really safe. Please dont pick pauldrons.
Can you tell me if it's better in the newer two videos? I upped the volume, but I don't know how much youtube audio compression is screwing me over there.
Isn’t eject button Luna just simply better? Like eject button with Luna just lets you play forward for a few seconds just with the knowledge that you can still defend whenever
Strike Shot let's you hit missiles and nukes without needing to leave your goal, and it increases your ability to defend with the ranged strike. Plus, I personally think it's more useful to save your secondary for defending, since Luna lacks a lot of real defensive tools.
@@aerialsnack yeah I’ve played her a lot more now and I have to agree, just alone for the for the range increase. I’m fairly new (like a few days) to the game, trying to figure things out so I appreciate the help c: I’ve started playing Atlas now and it’s so weird having no mobility option, but I’m enjoying it! I think I prefer forward, but no one else in my friend group wants to play goalie soooo xd
Eject button may be better at first. But strike shot is just too good. Also missle propulsion also exist which help luna kit alot. I also had to play goalie because of friend group and i enjoy it a lot. I have more fun bouncing the core around as a forward but yea goalie can be pretty fun too. Practice your left click and know where to strike, thats very important
First started playing competitive last night, my first 5 or 6 games were straight through stomps, then after that i was paired in 2 games with afkers and leavers. Then all 5 games after that were me being paired with ping pongers, even if ko'd an enemy, including the goalie at times, never got a pass while being out in the middle of nothing, easy shot to goal but they kept hitting it right back to the enemy each and everytime.
How do you avoid”stuffing”? I played against a drek ar who times his primary right after my left click. If I tried to shoot down or up the spread would catch and I would lose. Is this the scenario that demands an equal cool down / ult? Due to drek ars low primary cool down I hope that’s not the case, thoughts? And thanks
I am fairly new to the game so i just really want to hear some insight about Juno, she is by far my favourite striker and i see her played mostly as a forward, so i am curious to know about how she performs as a goalie. I am still a low elo player, played normals with my friends for the most part and we tried going competitive yesterday. But i still have a lot of fun with playing Juno goalie, playing with strike shot and redirecting the blobbo's hits to bait the enemies that knows how blobbo's ai works is the most fun i had in this game, so i really want to know how bad she performs at the higher ranks.
Juno isn't the best as goalie, as having blobbos near your goal (either enemy or ally blobbos) is typically not a good thing. Simply because the blobbos will keep the core near your goal for longer, allows enemies to set up a goal.
@@aerialsnack thanks for the reply, that's pretty sad that it would be hard to play my best girl as a goalie later on. Anyways, on lower elo it still works pretty good, so i will have my fun while i still can :)
i just picked up this game a week ago so ive only reached high gold so far but am i crazy here or is his goalie gameplay really bad? i mean maybe im missing something, maybe the ranks he plays in have so much mindgames he cant play more actively in that position, but it just seems really lackluster to my inexperienced eyes. his positioning i disagree with, his cooldown management, etc. what rank is aerial in game? i mean im guessing he is omega or whatever the top rank is since hes a youtuber and im just too fresh at this game to understand his plays but from my inexperienced eyes he comes across as far worse than the average goalie you get in gold league. i also disagree with his item recommendation, especially since he is playing ai.mi. eject button aimi is really strong on some maps, especially if you have a team that deals a lot of damage. your forward dashes can help secure kills or maintain pressure, keeping ball on enemy side. its really strong as that rocket lady goalie too, assuming you're good at using shift, you can also use it for rune goalie.
This video most definitely need to be remade! I'm a diamond player currently, and I wasn't the best goalie when this video came out (and it was a bit rushed). I also did the editing myself and was lazy and didn't select the best footage...
For strike shot? No, it should apply to every mode. However, all of the goalies gear lose their abilities when you cross the middle of the field into the enemy side, so they only work on your side of the field
As I said, the value from the increased range on her primary and special, plus the ability to have a ranged strike every 11 seconds is just too much value. What eject button does is allow you to use your secondary more offensively, and that's all it does. I can still use my secondary to KO nearby opponents, and to defend the goal without eject button. It's simply a matter of Strike Shot giving more things.
I mean, your goalie "video" is not even that good. Still passing back to the enemy is a sin, not using ability to ensure you got the advantage is also another.
Improving the C-game is exactly why I lately started playing Kai and Rasmus I'm shit at aiming ranged attacks (Sans Aimi admittedly) and predicting enemies Also Goalie tip: STOP MAKING STRAIGHT FORWARD SHOTSSSS
I play goalie a lot and the first tip I recommend to new players learning goalie is that "You are the only one that matters". Forwards up until higher elos are highly unreliable and can't be trusted to help you out when you need it, not to mention that no matter how badly your team may be at scoring, if you aren't winning, you are usually the first to be blamed. For those reasons, follow your own pace and do what you can, bc when it comes down to it, you are the only one preventing the enemy team from winning.
I play Asher goalie and my biggest complaint is that my team is always trying to do my job instead of bullying the other forwards. I promise I will clear it but you standing right in front of me is annoyingly ineffective
I don't understand how you block anything against half decent players. As soon as the ball gets to the crease line you can't do anything. You wait it just rolls in, you hit they ping pong and it go's in, you hit away they can still hit it and still go's in. So unfun
@@banechrismon6051 Not only that, sometimes I'm trying to clear the ball, and my "defender" passes it to the enemy instead. Some of these types leave the goal zone less often than I do.
@Darkknightx09 well this game is heavily biased towards using angles. Using your side barries can help you clear the ball, and the way the sides work provide many opportunities for you to be able to clear the ball. Also, the way you clear the ball depends on what striker you use. For example, using Kai means that you hit the ball with an ability way before it even gets close to you, whereas using Asher means that you use an ability while on top on of an opponent to be able to clear the ball
@@darkknightx0992 best way is to hit to the left or right and find openings. It's called juggling. Not to much content for this game yet but similar thing in rocket league. Ie, forward right in front of you, throw it directly to the right side of the goal, it will bounce back to you as they chase it and you throw it a different direction.
I honestly appreciate the fact that you included the wins and losses. It is a very humbling experience to not only know but see that we goalies have to start somewhere.
I think some other highly important things are the value of waiting to hit the core and learning when to use abilities to stop an enemy from stuffing it through.
Its soo tempting to spam abilities, espeically as goalie. learning to be patient in this fast paced game is difficult, but key. Which i struggle with
I always used to take strike shot but i changed to momentum boots, having speed in this game is too important to pass up since it lets you position yourself a lot faster. While strike shot is good, it's all still dependent on cooldowns whilst momentum boots will always be active and help with fundamentals
That's a fair point! I could definitely see momentum boots being a better pick if you weren't able to trust in your forwards as much. Strike Shot allows you to influence the midfield more and give your forwards a little extra pressure to be able to score goals and barriers, but if they can't do that and the enemy keeps getting the core to you, then Momentum Boots will really shine.
It depends on the enemy comp IMO, if they're playing an aggressive comp that will harass and try to KO you a lot Momentum Boots won't do much for you since you'll constantly be getting hit.
Mima PFP 0:
I normally pick escape button so I can score as goalie, you also 100% need it for luna, and strike shot for atlas.
Me as a decent goalie internally screaming at my fwds clinging to my zone during the whole match
I was in a VC with a friend and kept telling him to let me, the goalie, play goalie... he didn't listen and nearly every goal on us was his fault
@@kinsan89 I feel that pain...
When I taught my friends how to play, the first things I focused on was aiming first. Aim and just use strikes, it teaches them timing and how to actually aim, and I get them to play characters that use melee only. This also covers the point you made about developing crutches, it stops them from developing those. Then I get them to learm how to use abilities afterwards, what this does is they have learned how to aim, and that makes them better at just doing everything.
I'm in my 30's and I've mostly taught others in their 30's, even a lady in her 40's.
Damn in your 30s? While 30s isn't that old I'm just glad even adults can still have fun playing video games from time to time.
@@Gatoxintoga892 I actually got annoyed at one friend who was like, "I feel I just can't compete with these kids, they're so fast." I proceeded to yell I was older than him.
@@MeatyZeeg Hahaha it may or may not be true depending on perspective but even then I've seen a lot of ppl in their 30s - 40s able to do very well in games revolving around PvP even being better than us teens especially fighting games since I have been utterly destroyed by a group of old uncles at Tekken
For goalie I like to run speed boots on Strikers like Asher or Atlas since they’re slow and their secondaries are on long cool downs they’re pressed for coverage of the goal, giving them boots gives them more agency over more of the goal
The number 1 must know tip for goalies in low elo: you're the goalie.
One of my biggest advice as someone who almost exclusively plays goalie is... QUICK STRIKE. Assuming you don't get the IDEAL awakening, Quick Strike is one of the absolute best goalie buffs. I've had so many games where I only managed to protect BECAUSE of QS. In a worst case scenario where you're being double teamed by enemy forwards, pingponging is inevitable and QS can help you defend long enough to get your Special
Can't believe you didn't mention Asher as a possible Goalie pick!
Her Primary is extremely good to take away the ball from very aggressive Forwards and her Wall can be used very well to block of areas to keep the ball on the other side of the field. Especially when you get some range up the wall can be used to contest at very long ranges to help out your own Forwards while keeping the ball away from your own goal.
(tbf the Asher rework that came out after the video's release buffed her Primary a lot for playing as Goalie, but it was still good before)
Honestly, it's been long enough that I don't remember, but I'm pretty sure I said the list I gave wasn't a comprehensive one... maybe I didn't... I do plan on doing yet another goalie video though, that will be, well, more comprehensive!
@@aerialsnack It wasn't meant as criticism, don't worry. I was just kinda surprised she wasn't mentioned and also wanted to give another option to people who might be looking at the comments after watching the video.
Sick tutorial man, I'm mot even a goalie and I've learned more from it than from any other tutorial that's out already. Btw, you said you are better at forward, do you plan on making a tutorial for forwards as well?
Edit: I wrote this comment before seeing the outro, I c I'm looking forward to a forward tutorial ❤
You gave some really solid advice, I particularly like the point you made about being consistent in striking so as to avoid using your abilities as a crutch. I'm high gold myself but will def recommend this to my friends hanging out in silver, maybe it'll help them improve so I can play forward for once 🙏🗿
The only goalie gear I'd really call bad is Pauldrons (I guess atlas can use it?). Momentum boots is great for melee goalies like asher and can give you an edge on difficult to defend maps like oni village or atlas arena. Eject button is a war crime on any goalie with a long ranged secondary because it lets you have three forwards in the enemy goal. And strike shot is of course, the go-to for any ranged goalie (and even good on melees who want a ranged hit).
I used to go for Pauldrons but I noticed that Atlas basically can't die, he's pretty tanky and can revive itself or heal, so I use the Boots because I can't aim the Strike Shot (Playing on Nintendo Switch).
HOLY SHIT I almost spat my food when you mentioned the ping ponging. That is so crucial and I don't think most players understand that til higher levels
Thanks for the tips and the shoutout towards Strike Shot, i love that gear and it gets slept on a lot!
As someone who recently picked up this game, I can def agree with the picking up of bad habits. A lot of my gameplay has been casual so I've really just been messing around and experimenting. I enjoy being able to be an aggressive goalie so eject button has been my go too. With Vyce coming out I have been in love with Eject Button Vyce and have seen success. HOWEVER I have noticed my base striking to be lacking and this vid did a number on my mental to put me in a mindset to actual push ranked. I'll def have to jump in to more Atlas & Kai style goalies even more than I've already played. AWESOME 👌 tutorial. Keep the content comin
this video make me want to play the game thinks dude you added on more addiction
it's very great video
Enjoy the curse we share hahaha
Good insights. Unfortunately had to crank my phone volume and hold it directly to my ear to hear
Oh boy, here I go cranking up the gain again.
Pro league player here; first thing first, strike shot isn’t that good. Most of the characters will benefit more from other gears( like eject on kai).Also, as an advice, don’t forget you can dribble of the tiny walls in your goal. This can come in clutch as it gives you somewhere to dribble and wait until an opportunity to clear comes
This video is honestly so out dated. Once I finish this documentary I hope to make some guides that are more patch-proof.
I was playing Juliette in high plat and kept getting frustrated with my goalies, but I could never win a game as goalie myself.
I found that I too struggle hitting the core with my regular strikes
I'm quite good at sniping goals with quick combos on Juliette, along with players that go a little too close to the edge when camping orbs
But the game is Omega Strikers, and I wasn't a striker, just an "Ability-er"
I'm currently trying my hand at learning the goalie role in normals, and I have a LOT to learn.
Baller vid, keep up the good work my guy!
I agree with almost everything you said in this video, however i cant in good faith recommend taking anything but eject button on characters like aimi and luna. The value of being able to influence midfield and then pop back in the net is too high. Also it lets you bait out an x ult and then blink away from him and keep the ball in their half before teleporting back. Sometimes its about how you shut down the enemy forwards over how you influence the ball.
It's funny because I was talking to one of the top Luna players the other day, and he said that he thinks Strike Shot is the best gear for her, but NONE of the top players actually use it, him included. So, you can take whatever you'd like!
Gonna watch this later, but last couple games last night no matter how I approached and attacker trying to score the puck would just go through my hitbox.
Dubu was who I mained as a starting goalie I would recommend him as a basic he teaches you how to be proactive and reactive. He's forgiving with basic hits. If he's banned play Atlas or Kai. I got to gold during beta as goalie. All very good advice just work on what you feel you need to.
Now i just need to watch a tutorial on how to play other goalies, because whenever I'm not playing goalie Juno my goal just fucking crumbles lmao
2:40 I mean both of Atlas' abilities both have a delay. There is a game where I played like that because no abilities where needed (I thanks my allies for their perfect positioning).
I started just recently and was blasting people with Luna, yet when I got to play her as goalie I already knew I immediately had to prioritize the goal over harrass, kills, aggression... its a reason I dont like Luna goalie as much as fwd, even if it is more suitable and workable.
You might have to prioritize defending more with Luna as goalie, but with eject button you have the freedom to leave the goal to put pressure on the other side every once in a while with B.O.O.S.T., and the ability to confirm goals or KO enemy forwards or goalies can give a similar feel to being a forward. It's more that while strike shot might give you a new ability in the form of the projectile, it makes your secondary nearly useless, as using it will consistently put you out of position and highly vulnerable to getting scored on, and on the other hand, eject button lets you leave goal frequently, but if you don't use it with restraint you will find yourself out of position very often too.
Personally speaking, being both an eject button Luna main and having played a lot of Luna forward before learning about eject button, the pacing can be very different. If you enjoy the experience of capitalizing on opportunities and sniping the core from across the field, I would recommend goalie (with eject button), but if you prefer to be in the fray all of the time, then I would suggest forward. It's really up to personal taste, but there's no other goalie quite like eject button Luna, even if eject button AI.mi or Kai can come kind of close.
@@m42564I try but it feels so different because I need to defend. Normally as Luna I'm aggressive and reckless, I harm the enemy and try to knock them out. I don't have to worry about the barrier as much.
My goalie experience is horrible, every time i play i have some forward golie wanna be like that stands on top of me 👌
I honestly reccomend kai for lower level players looking to improve(and who isnt looking to improve that's watching this video). He's just so... basic, in the best possible way. He's just better than Dubu in every way too, his primary and secondary are practically straight upgrades to dubus exploitable tools. Odds are any trouble with kai will transfer over to every other goalie. Also, agree that strike shot is probably the best due to most goalies loving long range projectiles, but the actual shot on the strike is probably carried by all your Ai Mi play. It automatically goes off whenever you strike, so more strike based goalies will often end up wasting it. So like, one more point towards eject button, but honestly still stick with strile shot Kai until you're in a high enough elo to be baller reliably. High range barrage is really safe. Please dont pick pauldrons.
I think you missed a mention of a striker, I think you're recommending Kai for new players?
@@aerialsnack oops
My man, love your content; could you turn up the volume of your voice in the next ones?
Can you tell me if it's better in the newer two videos? I upped the volume, but I don't know how much youtube audio compression is screwing me over there.
@@aerialsnack Your recent videos appear to have a low volume voice over too.
Isn’t eject button Luna just simply better? Like eject button with Luna just lets you play forward for a few seconds just with the knowledge that you can still defend whenever
Strike Shot let's you hit missiles and nukes without needing to leave your goal, and it increases your ability to defend with the ranged strike. Plus, I personally think it's more useful to save your secondary for defending, since Luna lacks a lot of real defensive tools.
@@aerialsnack yeah I’ve played her a lot more now and I have to agree, just alone for the for the range increase. I’m fairly new (like a few days) to the game, trying to figure things out so I appreciate the help c:
I’ve started playing Atlas now and it’s so weird having no mobility option, but I’m enjoying it! I think I prefer forward, but no one else in my friend group wants to play goalie soooo xd
Eject button may be better at first. But strike shot is just too good. Also missle propulsion also exist which help luna kit alot.
I also had to play goalie because of friend group and i enjoy it a lot. I have more fun bouncing the core around as a forward but yea goalie can be pretty fun too. Practice your left click and know where to strike, thats very important
First started playing competitive last night, my first 5 or 6 games were straight through stomps, then after that i was paired in 2 games with afkers and leavers. Then all 5 games after that were me being paired with ping pongers, even if ko'd an enemy, including the goalie at times, never got a pass while being out in the middle of nothing, easy shot to goal but they kept hitting it right back to the enemy each and everytime.
It do be like that sometimes T_T
How do you avoid”stuffing”? I played against a drek ar who times his primary right after my left click. If I tried to shoot down or up the spread would catch and I would lose. Is this the scenario that demands an equal cool down / ult? Due to drek ars low primary cool down I hope that’s not the case, thoughts? And thanks
That's a really good guestion, good drek'ars are giving me nightmares
This is a rather complex question, so I can't really answer it in a comment. I plan on making an updated Goalie video that will cover this.
Great video! very informative and open minded keep it up brother!
3:49 not the estelle striking the core to your gold lock
Standard Omega Strikers experience
I am fairly new to the game so i just really want to hear some insight about Juno, she is by far my favourite striker and i see her played mostly as a forward, so i am curious to know about how she performs as a goalie. I am still a low elo player, played normals with my friends for the most part and we tried going competitive yesterday. But i still have a lot of fun with playing Juno goalie, playing with strike shot and redirecting the blobbo's hits to bait the enemies that knows how blobbo's ai works is the most fun i had in this game, so i really want to know how bad she performs at the higher ranks.
Juno isn't the best as goalie, as having blobbos near your goal (either enemy or ally blobbos) is typically not a good thing. Simply because the blobbos will keep the core near your goal for longer, allows enemies to set up a goal.
@@aerialsnack thanks for the reply, that's pretty sad that it would be hard to play my best girl as a goalie later on. Anyways, on lower elo it still works pretty good, so i will have my fun while i still can :)
I play in asia server and i'm hard stuck in mid silver... aside from sucking mechanically, i feel i am fighting much higher ranked enemies.
Return of the King?
The people have decided that they want Omega Strikers content. Who am I to deny them?
@@aerialsnack Lets gooooo
3:48 this hurts me
i just picked up this game a week ago so ive only reached high gold so far but am i crazy here or is his goalie gameplay really bad? i mean maybe im missing something, maybe the ranks he plays in have so much mindgames he cant play more actively in that position, but it just seems really lackluster to my inexperienced eyes. his positioning i disagree with, his cooldown management, etc.
what rank is aerial in game? i mean im guessing he is omega or whatever the top rank is since hes a youtuber and im just too fresh at this game to understand his plays but from my inexperienced eyes he comes across as far worse than the average goalie you get in gold league.
i also disagree with his item recommendation, especially since he is playing ai.mi. eject button aimi is really strong on some maps, especially if you have a team that deals a lot of damage. your forward dashes can help secure kills or maintain pressure, keeping ball on enemy side. its really strong as that rocket lady goalie too, assuming you're good at using shift, you can also use it for rune goalie.
This video most definitely need to be remade! I'm a diamond player currently, and I wasn't the best goalie when this video came out (and it was a bit rushed). I also did the editing myself and was lazy and didn't select the best footage...
The volume is SOOO low, i cant hear this even on max volume unless i colse my game im playing.
Tip #1 - DON’T PLAY MOBA, LOOK AT 4:32 JUNO BREAKS YOUR THING AND ALMOST SELF SCORES RIGHT AFTER LIKE DHCIROBEBEDDOOCJFNRBE
Is the ranged attack only a comp upgrade ? I don't see it in normals or casuals
For strike shot? No, it should apply to every mode. However, all of the goalies gear lose their abilities when you cross the middle of the field into the enemy side, so they only work on your side of the field
@@aerialsnack ah yes sorry i'm just potato, never read the second line of the effect lmao, thank you
strikeshot is superior if you dont play with 100/200ms
I main juno goalie
Got to high silver, since this comment, following this advice.
Why don't you use eject button on aime goalie?
As I said, the value from the increased range on her primary and special, plus the ability to have a ranged strike every 11 seconds is just too much value. What eject button does is allow you to use your secondary more offensively, and that's all it does. I can still use my secondary to KO nearby opponents, and to defend the goal without eject button. It's simply a matter of Strike Shot giving more things.
please increse you volume more, i have you on max everything and it still sounds like your normal volume, very informative vid tho thanks
I mean, your goalie "video" is not even that good. Still passing back to the enemy is a sin, not using ability to ensure you got the advantage is also another.
I assure you, it is certainly a video! I plan on re-doing it/expanding on it in the future though!
Improving the C-game is exactly why I lately started playing Kai and Rasmus
I'm shit at aiming ranged attacks (Sans Aimi admittedly) and predicting enemies
Also Goalie tip: STOP MAKING STRAIGHT FORWARD SHOTSSSS