I agree. As a lot of people pointed out in the comments of my last video, JW has basically disowned Love Lessons and said it couldn't be written today, so I was very confused when there was such a similar plotline in this story.
The suggestion you made about ellie introducing gary to her dad would’ve been so interesting!! Maybe it being his own daughter would finally force him to realise how creepy dating his students is
I know its kind of implied that Ellie finds him too embarrassing to introduce to the people in her life but I just found it really odd he didn't meet her family at all!
I would’ve loved a few chapters from Ellie or Madgas POV or some chapters written from when they were at university or when Ellie first had lottie to give us some more depth, also agree it would’ve been better/more realistic if they’d drifted apart and were reunited somehow, a school reunion or something would make more sense than inviting her old teachers and ex boyfriend to her 40th?
Not gonna lie when I read Think Again, I thought the Mr Windsor character reminded me of Mr Raxberry from Love Lessons...😬 but I'd love a part 2 of your last video! My favourite of Jacqueline's books is Lily Alone, not one of her most serious books overall, but had some serious plotlines mentioned within it
OK so here are my impressions of the book (I LOVED it btw). IF YOU DONT WANT LIGHT SPOILERS DONT READ ON!!!! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1. I liked Ben and Simon, I feel like Id have liked to have seen more of them too, they could have been great characters, esp since I found Eggs so funny and cute in the OG series. 2. It bothered me how there was so much of Ellie feeling bad about being so difficult as a teen towards her dad and Anna, but there was nothing abot how her dad was borderline abusive towards her then, basically painting her as a selfish self obsessed attention seeking brat who ruined christmas when she had an eating disorder and going for a tough love approach when she needed compassion, or his anger at Ellie for staying out with Russell going beyond just being worried about her and being lowkey slut shamey and how dare she embarass me by behaving in such a wanton manner (all while he had affairs with students, as Ellie pointed out in girls out late), and him being like ill talk to her however i want when Anna said dont talk to Ellie like that was troubling to me. 3 I agree JW really did ron the deatheater with mr windsors character in think again, although imo we saw a hint of it in girls in tears, while he had been all sweet and compassionate and nice in girls under pressure and girls ot late, there is one scene with him in in girls in tears where he is really insulting and mean about ellies cartoons and really patronising and behaving more like a mean strict teacher rather than the cool laid back fun teacher we had got used to in the previous two books, it was almost like at that point JW forgot who he was (Bridget Forsyth seemed to as well when she did the audio for girls in tears, she did a different voice for mr windsor when he spoke making him seem more gruff and middle aged and strict). Furthermore, in think again its emphasised what a huge crush Ellie had on him, when in the og series, she really didnt, we got the end of girls under pressure, but that was it, cos in the start of girls out late she met Russell, and she had already met him when Mr Windsor first appeared in that book, and she says she had a 'little crush' on him but nothing similar to the huge crush and hero worship she talks about in think again, the one who liked him the most in the og series was Magda. 4 I agree there could have been more explanation about how dating mr windsor was morally wrong (on his part) and made Ellie evaluate it as well as her dad doing the same thing, I suppose i didnt notice at first because i had evaluated it so much myself. 5. I also agree about plots going nowhere, the most for me was never actually finding out anything beyond Lottie initially meeting her dad, like its just left at that he lied to her about Ellie saying she was pregnant. 6. I am the opposite to you in that Nadine was always my least favourite, I always found her kind of a cow and kind of annoying, liek I am also alternative and i found that as goths go she was werirdly basic, but i also fond her being hugely into kink in think again was a stereotype about goths which annoys me. Like, she was usually the one to get her friends into trouble (like going off with that band) and i dunno she often just seemed super rude, and somehow didnt have Ellies relatableness and Magdas likeability despite her flaws. Frthermore, imo Magda and Nadine arent great friends to Ellie and are kind of worse in this book, they flirt with MR Windsor in front of Ellie in the bar, and at the same time shame her for having reservations about the relationship and dont support her in her complaining about his behaviour saying oh but hes gorgeous and good in bed, as a queer person myself, they just seem like the annoying straight girl friends who just dont get it with sapphics, and like imo out of the 3 of them Ellie seems like the only one who has actally grown up and matured, magda and nadine still act like 13 year olds, including the whole 'i cant have a tattoo of one or the other will get upset and them insisting they ellie should have named lottie after either one of them, so childish and it feels like ellie is constantly trying to keep their friendship going and support them and not upset them (kind of like shes almost walking on eggshells so as to not upset at least one of them) and they never do the same thing, ellie goes on about how important they are to her but they dont seem to see her as that important, in fact it wouldnt surprise me if they act friendly to her face but meet up together all the time and talk shit about ellie, tbf wouldnt be surprised if they did that when younger too (I never liked how they minimised Ellies eating disorder, like she was supportive to them with their issues but they acted like Ellie was making a fuss about nothing, and didnt take her issues seriously when it was obvious she needed help, plus Nadine putting Ellie in triggering situations like making her go to the modelling heat, eating chocolate in front of her and later calling her fat, plus whenever Ellie was upset by either of their behaviour they were always kind of like oh dont get like that, making out Ellie was just being oversensitive rather than that they might have fucked up themselves.. 7 and yeah, there were a lot of weird retcons like mr windsors first name and Ellie still having her elephant toy. 8. I wish Kev, the older gay guy Ellie had a crush on had been in it, and he had become like a big brother to Ellie, I could see him being much more caring and supportive to her than her family (minus Anna she was OK and I can see Ben and Simon being good but obvs when Ben was a kid he couldnt really) or magda and nadine. . Cant wait to hear your opinions on my opinions, Ill edit in anything else i want to put, sorry to write you an essay I've got a lot to say haha great video xxxx
Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed comment! I completely forgot about Kevin, I rather wish he had been a guest at Ellie's party, maybe instead of Russell. I also agree that Magda and Nadine don't seem to have had much development beyond the last book, I cringed a bit when Ellie said Magda refers to every single partner she gets as "the one" for example. I also wish Ellie had a bit of a realisation that the way her dad treated her was not okay, I was surprised they were so close in this book (at the start, obviously the heart attack may have sparked a reconnection either way). Lottie's storyline being unfinished is what's making me most hopeful for a sequel. Some really excellent points here, maybe if there does end up being a sequel to this one Kev may make an appearance after all 🖤
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I completely agree in regards to mr Windsor/Guy/Gary I was getting a a lot Mr Raxberry flashbacks
I agree. As a lot of people pointed out in the comments of my last video, JW has basically disowned Love Lessons and said it couldn't be written today, so I was very confused when there was such a similar plotline in this story.
Jackie so confusing
Literally me too
The suggestion you made about ellie introducing gary to her dad would’ve been so interesting!! Maybe it being his own daughter would finally force him to realise how creepy dating his students is
I know its kind of implied that Ellie finds him too embarrassing to introduce to the people in her life but I just found it really odd he didn't meet her family at all!
I would’ve loved a few chapters from Ellie or Madgas POV or some chapters written from when they were at university or when Ellie first had lottie to give us some more depth, also agree it would’ve been better/more realistic if they’d drifted apart and were reunited somehow, a school reunion or something would make more sense than inviting her old teachers and ex boyfriend to her 40th?
Been waiting for your next video!
Not gonna lie when I read Think Again, I thought the Mr Windsor character reminded me of Mr Raxberry from Love Lessons...😬 but I'd love a part 2 of your last video! My favourite of Jacqueline's books is Lily Alone, not one of her most serious books overall, but had some serious plotlines mentioned within it
So obsessed with the Mr. Raxberry comparisons haha I'm so WHOLLY unimpressed with this storyline! I loved Lily Alone as well 🩷
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OK so here are my impressions of the book (I LOVED it btw).
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1. I liked Ben and Simon, I feel like Id have liked to have seen more of them too, they could have been great characters, esp since I found Eggs so funny and cute in the OG series.
2. It bothered me how there was so much of Ellie feeling bad about being so difficult as a teen towards her dad and Anna, but there was nothing abot how her dad was borderline abusive towards her then, basically painting her as a selfish self obsessed attention seeking brat who ruined christmas when she had an eating disorder and going for a tough love approach when she needed compassion, or his anger at Ellie for staying out with Russell going beyond just being worried about her and being lowkey slut shamey and how dare she embarass me by behaving in such a wanton manner (all while he had affairs with students, as Ellie pointed out in girls out late), and him being like ill talk to her however i want when Anna said dont talk to Ellie like that was troubling to me.
3 I agree JW really did ron the deatheater with mr windsors character in think again, although imo we saw a hint of it in girls in tears, while he had been all sweet and compassionate and nice in girls under pressure and girls ot late, there is one scene with him in in girls in tears where he is really insulting and mean about ellies cartoons and really patronising and behaving more like a mean strict teacher rather than the cool laid back fun teacher we had got used to in the previous two books, it was almost like at that point JW forgot who he was (Bridget Forsyth seemed to as well when she did the audio for girls in tears, she did a different voice for mr windsor when he spoke making him seem more gruff and middle aged and strict). Furthermore, in think again its emphasised what a huge crush Ellie had on him, when in the og series, she really didnt, we got the end of girls under pressure, but that was it, cos in the start of girls out late she met Russell, and she had already met him when Mr Windsor first appeared in that book, and she says she had a 'little crush' on him but nothing similar to the huge crush and hero worship she talks about in think again, the one who liked him the most in the og series was Magda.
4 I agree there could have been more explanation about how dating mr windsor was morally wrong (on his part) and made Ellie evaluate it as well as her dad doing the same thing, I suppose i didnt notice at first because i had evaluated it so much myself.
5. I also agree about plots going nowhere, the most for me was never actually finding out anything beyond Lottie initially meeting her dad, like its just left at that he lied to her about Ellie saying she was pregnant.
6. I am the opposite to you in that Nadine was always my least favourite, I always found her kind of a cow and kind of annoying, liek I am also alternative and i found that as goths go she was werirdly basic, but i also fond her being hugely into kink in think again was a stereotype about goths which annoys me. Like, she was usually the one to get her friends into trouble (like going off with that band) and i dunno she often just seemed super rude, and somehow didnt have Ellies relatableness and Magdas likeability despite her flaws. Frthermore, imo Magda and Nadine arent great friends to Ellie and are kind of worse in this book, they flirt with MR Windsor in front of Ellie in the bar, and at the same time shame her for having reservations about the relationship and dont support her in her complaining about his behaviour saying oh but hes gorgeous and good in bed, as a queer person myself, they just seem like the annoying straight girl friends who just dont get it with sapphics, and like imo out of the 3 of them Ellie seems like the only one who has actally grown up and matured, magda and nadine still act like 13 year olds, including the whole 'i cant have a tattoo of one or the other will get upset and them insisting they ellie should have named lottie after either one of them, so childish and it feels like ellie is constantly trying to keep their friendship going and support them and not upset them (kind of like shes almost walking on eggshells so as to not upset at least one of them) and they never do the same thing, ellie goes on about how important they are to her but they dont seem to see her as that important, in fact it wouldnt surprise me if they act friendly to her face but meet up together all the time and talk shit about ellie, tbf wouldnt be surprised if they did that when younger too (I never liked how they minimised Ellies eating disorder, like she was supportive to them with their issues but they acted like Ellie was making a fuss about nothing, and didnt take her issues seriously when it was obvious she needed help, plus Nadine putting Ellie in triggering situations like making her go to the modelling heat, eating chocolate in front of her and later calling her fat, plus whenever Ellie was upset by either of their behaviour they were always kind of like oh dont get like that, making out Ellie was just being oversensitive rather than that they might have fucked up themselves..
7 and yeah, there were a lot of weird retcons like mr windsors first name and Ellie still having her elephant toy.
8. I wish Kev, the older gay guy Ellie had a crush on had been in it, and he had become like a big brother to Ellie, I could see him being much more caring and supportive to her than her family (minus Anna she was OK and I can see Ben and Simon being good but obvs when Ben was a kid he couldnt really) or magda and nadine. .
Cant wait to hear your opinions on my opinions, Ill edit in anything else i want to put, sorry to write you an essay I've got a lot to say haha great video xxxx
Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed comment! I completely forgot about Kevin, I rather wish he had been a guest at Ellie's party, maybe instead of Russell. I also agree that Magda and Nadine don't seem to have had much development beyond the last book, I cringed a bit when Ellie said Magda refers to every single partner she gets as "the one" for example. I also wish Ellie had a bit of a realisation that the way her dad treated her was not okay, I was surprised they were so close in this book (at the start, obviously the heart attack may have sparked a reconnection either way). Lottie's storyline being unfinished is what's making me most hopeful for a sequel. Some really excellent points here, maybe if there does end up being a sequel to this one Kev may make an appearance after all 🖤
It's not like Raxberry because Spoiler alert
Ellie realises the situation for what it is.
The Mr G clip had me creasing 😂😂
I need Mr. G to write Nadine a musical asap
@@fozjag she is definitely a naughty girl with a bad habit
Mrs Wilson ate i fear
Roald Dahl retrospect when?
What a SHOUT
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Jackie is so brat
Slay
Agreed
Bumpin that