I did 4.8k dps on testwrk with ashkandi, 6 of core forged and 2 piece draconic. Sooo idc what the sims say, I’m rocking that set up instead. The amount of gcds you save allows you to play purifying power and you can do a really good combo with exo, judge, exo again before your seals and CS come off cd. It’s a tight window and requires some lucky crits but feels great
@@grissebasse99 you can, I just pvp a lot so I prio slow weapons and hpals in my raid are going for the class weapon first bc of how much +healing it has. I also like my bigger crit numbers. both builds are equally viable.
That's the setup i'm using. For any fights with even SLIGHT downtime on the boss, you hardly lose the DPS on it because you can stack seals to come back with unholy amounts of burst in one global - so its great on Razorgore, Firemaw, Double Drakes, Chromaggus and Nef. It'll be less useful as you go along and Exodin truthbreaker will be miles ahead, especially for single target. But the T2 2pc and 6pc T1 is definitely the path to take in order to instantly boost your DPS massively.
Exo BiS is actually 6pc core forged, 2pc draconic. Just keep seals up, spam exo, judge on CD, fill with CS and conc. Can run hallowed ground if you have enough crit to never have a gcd for DS.
Does anyone know how Seal of the Crusader interacts with the weapon swing timer? I know you can’t twist with it in the traditional sense, but if the attack speed buff applies to the whole auto, even if you activate another seal during your swing timer, couldn’t Seal of the Crusader potentially be pretty powerful for exodin, since the combination of attack speed and a huge chunk of attack power makes your exorcism hit that much harder?
With Core Forged (6 set T1 Bonus) you have 2 active seals. With SoM & SoR active, both can decrease your cd of Exorcism, which should be stronger than SotC. Also SotC AP decreases with time. Try it out and tell us your findings :) But in my opinion it cant be stronger!
You can find that here: ruclips.net/video/z1s3ImhMWx8/видео.html I will do a deep dive rotation later on in the phase, when I can test it for myself more :).
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Nope, buffs were on and i used the auto setting for rotation. But as I said in the video, it is an alpha version, so i wouldnt give so much about it :)
it doesnt matter what pieces we coreforge as long as we save 2 spots for draconic right? cause i got helm chest and bindings right now should i coreforge them to keep my 6 piece?
Maybe, but hit shouldnt be a problem, because you get 3 % hit from prot tree and as well from your ring runes. But someone said in the comments they were 4 - 4,5k dps in testing with this set :).
@@michaelhoagland7474 Sorry, I misunderstood your first posting. We cant do /stopcasting in this version of the game (I just tested it to be sure), so you have to do 2 macros by combining judgment on both of your seals. #showtooltip /cast Seal of Martyrdom /cast Judgement #showtooltip /cast Seal of Command /cast Judgement But you also need another keybind at the beginning, e.g. Martyrdom without macro, so you dont judge without double seal in your opener.
Its a weakaura. You need the English client to get it to work: 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You mean my Weak Aura? 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Mostly mouseover macros (as explained in the video) and /startattack at the end of my spells. E.g. #showtooltip /cast Seal of Command /startattack for example. With the new Draconic set you can also do it like this: #showtooltip /cast Seal of Command /startattack /cast Judgement
@@WhiterWoW i have 6 Pieces T1 and T2 molten mixed for the Set boni and 2 Pieces T2 Draconic and one seal stay 30 Second and the other seal 6 Seconds so i have always to reapply one seal
@@WhiterWoW the problem is, that u say in the vid we should always hit with both seals up, but this wont work with a very fast weapon like truthbearer cause if you judge your seal u cant get them up so fast again, there will be always one hit with only 1 seal up, that is what i mean
@@Terlos1 You have a priolist on spells you go through. You want to get your Exorcism as much out as possible with Exodin playstyle. It can happen that you miss a few swings in between of course. But that isnt really a problem. Both seals allow you to get your Exorcism cd reduced more often. So just aim for that.
@@WhiterWoW Thanks for the feedback. Exodin is unfortunately not for PvP because you don't have enough uptime. I'm looking forward to your Shockadin p5, maybe that's something for PvP and PvE :D
![How good is Shockadin in Phase 5? [WoW SoD PTR Testing]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qYFJnvobAo0/mqdefault.jpg)
I did 4.8k dps on testwrk with ashkandi, 6 of core forged and 2 piece draconic. Sooo idc what the sims say, I’m rocking that set up instead. The amount of gcds you save allows you to play purifying power and you can do a really good combo with exo, judge, exo again before your seals and CS come off cd. It’s a tight window and requires some lucky crits but feels great
Great to hear! Thats what I thought as well :) thanks for sharing.
if you run PP why would you not run truthbearer with seal of martyr+righteous and spam exo on cd?
@@grissebasse99 you can, I just pvp a lot so I prio slow weapons and hpals in my raid are going for the class weapon first bc of how much +healing it has. I also like my bigger crit numbers. both builds are equally viable.
That's the setup i'm using. For any fights with even SLIGHT downtime on the boss, you hardly lose the DPS on it because you can stack seals to come back with unholy amounts of burst in one global - so its great on Razorgore, Firemaw, Double Drakes, Chromaggus and Nef. It'll be less useful as you go along and Exodin truthbreaker will be miles ahead, especially for single target. But the T2 2pc and 6pc T1 is definitely the path to take in order to instantly boost your DPS massively.
Exo BiS is actually 6pc core forged, 2pc draconic. Just keep seals up, spam exo, judge on CD, fill with CS and conc. Can run hallowed ground if you have enough crit to never have a gcd for DS.
I think both options are equally viable :)
I am definitely using slow wep + 6pc core forged and 2pc draconic, seems busted
really good guide and explaining!
Thank you very much!
Does anyone know how Seal of the Crusader interacts with the weapon swing timer? I know you can’t twist with it in the traditional sense, but if the attack speed buff applies to the whole auto, even if you activate another seal during your swing timer, couldn’t Seal of the Crusader potentially be pretty powerful for exodin, since the combination of attack speed and a huge chunk of attack power makes your exorcism hit that much harder?
With Core Forged (6 set T1 Bonus) you have 2 active seals. With SoM & SoR active, both can decrease your cd of Exorcism, which should be stronger than SotC. Also SotC AP decreases with time. Try it out and tell us your findings :) But in my opinion it cant be stronger!
a demonstration of T 2 judgment rotation? whit new patchnotes they didn't undo it ?
You can find that here: ruclips.net/video/z1s3ImhMWx8/видео.html
I will do a deep dive rotation later on in the phase, when I can test it for myself more :).
hello, can you by any chance share your swing timer /twisting WA?
Sure, here you go:
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These sim values all sound very low. Unsure if the rotation settings are incorrect or if buffs are clicked off?
Nope, buffs were on and i used the auto setting for rotation. But as I said in the video, it is an alpha version, so i wouldnt give so much about it :)
Best profession for ret?
Probably Engineer for dps upgrade. Otherwise Enchanting/Alchemy/BS is also a good option
it doesnt matter what pieces we coreforge as long as we save 2 spots for draconic right? cause i got helm chest and bindings right now should i coreforge them to keep my 6 piece?
Thats correct. It doesnt matter which one. Its your decision which set pieces you go for first :)
@@WhiterWoW Thank you :)
Maybe the issue with the 6 of core forged and 2 pieces dragonic sim is not great because its just 4% hit?
Maybe, but hit shouldnt be a problem, because you get 3 % hit from prot tree and as well from your ring runes. But someone said in the comments they were 4 - 4,5k dps in testing with this set :).
So for exodin we rotate judging righteous and martyrdom ? I’m kinda confused. Can you not combine both seals on that judge macro ?
You can, if you use the 6 set core forged ofc!
What would this macro look like? Would love a share if you have it!
@@michaelhoagland7474 Sorry, I misunderstood your first posting. We cant do /stopcasting in this version of the game (I just tested it to be sure), so you have to do 2 macros by combining judgment on both of your seals.
#showtooltip
/cast Seal of Martyrdom
/cast Judgement
#showtooltip
/cast Seal of Command
/cast Judgement
But you also need another keybind at the beginning, e.g. Martyrdom without macro, so you dont judge without double seal in your opener.
That an addon or Weakaura for the Autoattack thing in the middle?
Its a weakaura. You need the English client to get it to work:
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Any link to your auramastery for seal twisting?
You mean my Weak Aura?
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@@WhiterWoW Ya sorry weakaura for seal twisting! whatever you wrote there didnt work
@@alexanderrose1556 you need to use the english client for it to work :) and import the code :)
is this specc possible without the T Bonus ? i´m new and fesh at lvl 60 )
Yes, but way weaker. You can get the Refined Arcanite Champion e.g. or another 2.0 speed weapon. Try to go for T1! :)
What spec should we rock as a fresh ding retri I'm so confused which to take? @@WhiterWoW
@@jacobkenyon2299 I would suggest Exodin, but it depends on what gear you can get your hand on :)
Do the shockadin exo build with shock and awe
I need to get the necessary gear first :)
Say I got no buffs or world buffs. Also no enchants. Be fine if I did 800-1,500 dps at least?
I think you should get Mongoose and Giants at least :) They are really not expensive. But about 1,5k should be doable without anything.
Hello, greetings from Argentina, could you send me your WA to make the sign of twist?
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I am looking for the same
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What macro's do you use?
Mostly mouseover macros (as explained in the video) and /startattack at the end of my spells. E.g.
#showtooltip
/cast Seal of Command
/startattack
for example. With the new Draconic set you can also do it like this:
#showtooltip
/cast Seal of Command
/startattack
/cast Judgement
"always hit with both seals up" , is not possible if u judge them and the weapon is so fast that u will hit one swing with only 1 seal
If you use 6 T2 Molten & 2 Draconic T2 your seal always stays up!
@@WhiterWoW i have 6 Pieces T1 and T2 molten mixed for the Set boni and 2 Pieces T2 Draconic and one seal stay 30 Second and the other seal 6 Seconds so i have always to reapply one seal
@@Terlos1 Yeah, after 6 seconds of course. I dont understand the problem?
@@WhiterWoW the problem is, that u say in the vid we should always hit with both seals up, but this wont work with a very fast weapon like truthbearer cause if you judge your seal u cant get them up so fast again, there will be always one hit with only 1 seal up, that is what i mean
@@Terlos1 You have a priolist on spells you go through. You want to get your Exorcism as much out as possible with Exodin playstyle. It can happen that you miss a few swings in between of course. But that isnt really a problem. Both seals allow you to get your Exorcism cd reduced more often. So just aim for that.
Why is not any gear good for pvp? missing alot of int
Yeah, need to honor grind that gear for pvp :)
@@WhiterWoW cant i get stats from t1 into t2?
@@SAPP3D No, only set bonuses. You get stats from t2 for both versions (which are better)
I spend almost the entire fight staring at my swing timer. The gameplay isn't fun. It's even more difficult in PvP... does anyone have a tip?
Go Exodin, if you dont enjoy this playstyle! You are not forced to do this :). Both playstyles are viable!
@@WhiterWoW Thanks for the feedback. Exodin is unfortunately not for PvP because you don't have enough uptime. I'm looking forward to your Shockadin p5, maybe that's something for PvP and PvE :D
If you are Human you don't want to use Mace or Sword Specialization Rune on your Rings because it does not stack with the racial bonus.
But there is no other viable option, so why not
Yes there is, heal, mp5 or defense
Correct as human I use holy and defense using a hammer
Pretty sure u didnt adjust the rotation when simming
I put it on auto :)
Please make a guide for shockadin, we know it's not meta. We need a light in the darkness of phase 5.
If I can get my hands on the necessary equipment, I will do a guide :D