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Looking to pickup a pair of these or the 2019s used. Im mostly in the midwest now and my big mountain 115 waisted skis are skiable but overkill. I'd like to get a pair of rippers for the hardpack.
Good option for a offpiste beginner? Looking for skis where I could learn offpiste with, but always join my friends on the grooms. I am quite a big guy (6'6'', 250 lbs), so I was struggling with carving skis in deep snow, so I was amazed whenever I tried the Kastle FX85HP. Sadly they are not in my price range.
Hello! The Experience 88 is a great ski, but this version of it wasn't the easiest in off-piste terrain and conditions. Different tip and tail shape compared to the FX 85 HP, the Experience 88 is harder to maneuver in soft and variable snow conditions. The Nordica Enforcer 93 might be a really good ski for you. Similar to the FX 85 HP in the sense that it uses two sheets of metal, and it uses a similar shape as well. Normally it's not a ski we would recommend to someone who isn't an experienced off-piste skier, but because you're a pretty big guy you'll be able to get the ski to flex and manipulate it much more easily than a lighter weight skier would.
It can feel like that sometimes! The newer version of the Experience 88 would also be better than the ski we're talking about in this video. They changed the shape quite a bit and it's now a much better off-piste ski. For someone like yourself I would be looking for a ski that uses some metal (beneficial for your size) and a shape that has some rocker and early taper. Rocker refers to the ski rising off the snow before the actual tip and tail, early taper refers to a tip and tail shape that isn't widest at the ends of the ski, but rather closer to the center of the ski then tapers to a narrower shape as it reaches the tip and tail. That construction will be best for your size and that kind of shape is going to be best to learn off-piste terrain and conditions. The Nordica Enforcer 93 is a good example of all three aspects. Hope that helps! Don't hesitate to reach out to us if you need more clarification.
Skiessentials.com what length would you recommend? 185 or 193? As said, I have never had longer than 181. How are the Tyrolia Attack Gripwalk 11 Bindings?
I'm going to assume you skied the FX 85 HP in the 181 cm length? If yes, based off your feedback on that ski, I would go with the 185 cm length. That should be enough ski for you, especially since you say you've only been on skis up to 181 cm. Chances are the Enforcer 93 uses more rocker than what you've skied before, so 185 cm should be perfectly manageable.
From what you said about weight I would expect it to be ligter. I actually dont think they are light. I bought 84s with Pauwlonia and with binding it has more than 3,5kg.. and with what they call lightweight binding :) but I havent tried them yet on snow so hopefully they will have that good energic feeling on snow and good manouverability as you said in video and hopefully this is not just some promo for Rossi :D
I’m from the east coast and I have these skis and they’re awesome out here. I’m going out west to Revelstoke and Banff this season. Do you think these skis can handle the western conditions. Not planning to do any back country or anything, but I do love to ski glades and anything in the boundaries... What do you think?
Was there just before Xmas and they were just fine, mine are the 188cm. Sunshine had about 10cm of fresh snow and they did just fine, mby the tail was a bit catchy but you get uesd to.
I rented the 2016/17 experience 88 today and really hated it compared to my experience 80. I’m not sure how different that model is from this one, but I found it really heavy and that made it really hard for me to keep the skis together during turns. Definitely a lot to do with my own technique, but today was the first day I did not enjoy skiing :(
Got mine 2 weeks, 88mm and 188cm. Was able to try them few times and... they are pretty sick for few inches of fresh snow, yet to try them on freshly groomed runs.
In my opinion you will not notice the difference between a 16 and 17m radius skies... Unless its a GS with 22m+ or pure carving skies with like 70ish underfoot.
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Love the 88HD. Powerful yet can tolerate the crud.
Looking to pickup a pair of these or the 2019s used. Im mostly in the midwest now and my big mountain 115 waisted skis are skiable but overkill. I'd like to get a pair of rippers for the hardpack.
Good option for a offpiste beginner? Looking for skis where I could learn offpiste with, but always join my friends on the grooms.
I am quite a big guy (6'6'', 250 lbs), so I was struggling with carving skis in deep snow, so I was amazed whenever I tried the Kastle FX85HP. Sadly they are not in my price range.
Hello! The Experience 88 is a great ski, but this version of it wasn't the easiest in off-piste terrain and conditions. Different tip and tail shape compared to the FX 85 HP, the Experience 88 is harder to maneuver in soft and variable snow conditions. The Nordica Enforcer 93 might be a really good ski for you. Similar to the FX 85 HP in the sense that it uses two sheets of metal, and it uses a similar shape as well. Normally it's not a ski we would recommend to someone who isn't an experienced off-piste skier, but because you're a pretty big guy you'll be able to get the ski to flex and manipulate it much more easily than a lighter weight skier would.
Skiessentials.com thanks for your answer. It seems that findig a pair of suitable skis is even harder than finding a wife or a car LMAO
It can feel like that sometimes! The newer version of the Experience 88 would also be better than the ski we're talking about in this video. They changed the shape quite a bit and it's now a much better off-piste ski. For someone like yourself I would be looking for a ski that uses some metal (beneficial for your size) and a shape that has some rocker and early taper. Rocker refers to the ski rising off the snow before the actual tip and tail, early taper refers to a tip and tail shape that isn't widest at the ends of the ski, but rather closer to the center of the ski then tapers to a narrower shape as it reaches the tip and tail. That construction will be best for your size and that kind of shape is going to be best to learn off-piste terrain and conditions. The Nordica Enforcer 93 is a good example of all three aspects. Hope that helps! Don't hesitate to reach out to us if you need more clarification.
Skiessentials.com what length would you recommend? 185 or 193? As said, I have never had longer than 181. How are the Tyrolia Attack Gripwalk 11 Bindings?
I'm going to assume you skied the FX 85 HP in the 181 cm length? If yes, based off your feedback on that ski, I would go with the 185 cm length. That should be enough ski for you, especially since you say you've only been on skis up to 181 cm. Chances are the Enforcer 93 uses more rocker than what you've skied before, so 185 cm should be perfectly manageable.
From what you said about weight I would expect it to be ligter. I actually dont think they are light. I bought 84s with Pauwlonia and with binding it has more than 3,5kg.. and with what they call lightweight binding :) but I havent tried them yet on snow so hopefully they will have that good energic feeling on snow and good manouverability as you said in video and hopefully this is not just some promo for Rossi :D
I’m from the east coast and I have these skis and they’re awesome out here. I’m going out west to Revelstoke and Banff this season. Do you think these skis can handle the western conditions. Not planning to do any back country or anything, but I do love to ski glades and anything in the boundaries... What do you think?
Was there just before Xmas and they were just fine, mine are the 188cm. Sunshine had about 10cm of fresh snow and they did just fine, mby the tail was a bit catchy but you get uesd to.
Thanks for the reply! I can’t wait to go, although the conditions in the east have been awesome this season.. haha
I rented the 2016/17 experience 88 today and really hated it compared to my experience 80. I’m not sure how different that model is from this one, but I found it really heavy and that made it really hard for me to keep the skis together during turns. Definitely a lot to do with my own technique, but today was the first day I did not enjoy skiing :(
Definitely heavier and stiffer than your 80s. You'd probably adapt to them after a couple more days, just requires a higher edge angle.
2022
skiessentials.com which one carves better on firm snow, this or the xdr ?
Love this Ski but its super heavy
They've made some considerable improvements moving into 2023 with the Experience 86Ti. Definitely check that one out!
So basically the 2018 88HD are the same just a color revamp. Gotta look for some 2017s then :)
Sure is! And yeah, a discounted 2017 is going to give you the same performance!
Got mine 2 weeks, 88mm and 188cm. Was able to try them few times and... they are pretty sick for few inches of fresh snow, yet to try them on freshly groomed runs.
Yet the specified turn radius is 17m for the 2017 version and 16m for the 2018 one.
We're going to look into this. We've seen some specs saying it's a narrower tail, yet shorter turn radius, which seems geometrically impossible.
In my opinion you will not notice the difference between a 16 and 17m radius skies... Unless its a GS with 22m+ or pure carving skies with like 70ish underfoot.