Cove really damaged his vocal chords...such a shame it hurt his career as well as the future of Saosin. Imagine had he never been let go...the songs they could've made
I used to be mad about them kicking Cove out of the band. But now I see that it was absolutely necessary. Otherwise, his bad singing would've made the rest of the band look horrible and that's just not fair. The 4 of them are SPECTACULAR musicians.
Right?! This is my favorite album of theirs but Cove wasn’t the right fit. He seems to be pushing it far past his vocal abilities. The original lineup kicks way more ass. I here cove is stepping in for Scary Kids. I hope he doesn’t bring them down too. I fucking love that band!!!
@@ptrekboxbreaks5198he didn’t damage his vocals, he was just never very good to begin with and had a higher vocal range when he first joined compared to a few years later when he matured and his voice dropped. His voice was also crazy overproduced on the Self Titled album. Howard Bensen made that record sound amazing
@@natemoon9796 that’s not true. Check out dead American and the dude is fantastic. I love Saosin but the truth of the matter is his band mates were assholes to him. They constantly let him know he was never good enough and man, after a while that weighs on a person. Howard Benson got good vocals out of him because he worked with him and empowered the dude to have some confidence.
@@natemoon9796 his vocal range is insane....a lot of work was probably done to keep him on pitch. I would put money on it that if he had a vocal teacher and lots of practice, he could have been great.
Cove was a vocalist with tons of potential. That's why he was so inconsistent. He never learned to train his voice. That's why howard benson could get great vocals out of him, and he was so inconsistent live. He just wasn't ready to be a professional singer no matter how awesome his voice and range could've been.
@@AlexanderLeGrand17 He admitted to smoking cigarettes but that's hardly enough to have that inconsistent of a voice. Benson was the dude who produced their self-titled.
It doesn’t help that I don’t think the band ever tried to let him be his own, they always wanted a replacement for Anthony and I think that caused some issues.
I once ran up to Anthony Green at a Circa Survive/MCR show and said "you've been really diplomatic in the press about the whole Cove Reber thing, but they're nothing without you." His reply,,,"I know."
Bruh this video makes Cove look like absolute shit, but I saw Saosin live with Cove like 4 times and they were amazing. Vocals on point. Idk what the excuse is here though lol
True passion is shown by dedication to excellence in your craft and your art. Passion would be working your ass off to be the best singer possible because thats what matters most, and you can tell from this, and numerous other videos like it that it's just simply not the case.
Based on the quality of Cove's trash stash, this was well into his "checking out" of the band after years of ridicule by the rest of the band. He wasn't bad, I enjoyed his vocals more than Green's even, but the same thing that made Anthony leave Saosin was probably the same thing that effected Cove: Difference in direction of which the instrumentalists were unwilling the waver on.
The reason he wasn't singing right or not trying was because he was no longer happy being in the band. There was a lot of drama between cove and the other band members.
I always wondered about the range issue. And I always wondered how much he was pushing himself to get those notes - this shows that he was pushing himself way too much and too dangerously. Its a shame.
You know it's sad to see a amazing band like this drop down to this level. I remember the first time I saw them back in 07 and then later in 2010 it was a terrible difference.
Exactly. A lot of this could have been fixed with a better live mix. His vocal is way too loud and needs to be compressed. Is it a great performance? No. But this mix highlights Cove’s mistakes WAY too much.
I feel very sorry for Cove though. He only got into the band because his audition tape sounded similar to Anthony Green. For the years he was in Saosin, he was always compared to Anthony Green and so many of the old Saosin fans hated him because he was similar but not the same to Green. Finally, Cove was kicked out of Saosin. Gotta feel bad for him
I hate that cove lost his voice. He used to be amazing live but I guess he's one of the unlucky vocalists who lose their ability to sing live after years of constant strain. Sad that he lost such an amazing voice.
@@aaronmalcolm8890 it's not the same power and range that he used to have tho. If you listen to live versions of Dead American songs you'll see his overall quality of voice had downgraded. However, he was able to hit that high note on Voices back on 2018 so maybe he's just not trying to push his voice as much
@@bangbangcabrera very well could be true. The big thing to remember is that he was also trying to maintain the range of Anthony Green while he was still in Saosin. I think manny try to compare apples to oranges. Both are great in their own ranges. I love both of them as musicians and wish them both great success in the future
@@aaronmalcolm8890 definitely agree with you there, while Cove prob damaged his voice trying to equal Anthony's range they're both super amazing and talented singers. Just like you said, they'll get compared but they're both on their own levels
@Swansen03 So many factors kill your voice, if you wanna be really careful you wont smoke, drink alcohol or acidic fruit juice, you wont eat dairy, you wont eat several hours before bed, you need a lot of sleep, you should warm up before every show and have should a routine of excercises - but we all know if you're in a band that just can't really happen most of the time. You can't control it if you've just recorded an album where you recorded too high vocals then had to tour it, is a shame.
People... Cove is a great singer.... In fact the only reason i ever listened to this band was because of him, so check out some real performances and stop gazing and magnifying on the couple that arent nearly as horrible as any other rock band that cant sing, but just scream and jump. We all know that Cove can sing, and sing well. Its the people that cant get over Anthony that love to feed on vids like this. Check out some ISOSG live performance DVD vids, or come close. And then hate, impossible
@adamfitchadam 's been singing for quite a while, he'd learn control over that period, and, if you listen from when he started to later shows, a few years, he got a lot better. According to a few band members Cove smokes cigarettes.. like often. i'm sure that killed his voice
@adammariucci THANK YOU, Saosin are great but when Cove sang he was only really using his nose and a fuck tonne of computers to make it good hence the ultra fail at concerts.
This isn't anything like being at an actual show in person - I've seen them live, and they were excellent. This video is not representative of what Saosin is like live when you're there (seems like a lot of live videos do this to bands).
Im a big fan of saosin, im always listening to their music, my phone has 90% of their songs...I think....his voice deteriorates because of his growrlings...ever since he learned how to growrl..his voice started to change....i think Cove pushed the limits of his vocal chords because hes trying to hard to growl....and for me,hes voice is purely for clean vocals...but I think due to the fact that theres no one in the band can growrl better, he put his voice to a grinding death...and took that place
if you guys look most of their video,you can see the other members always put a face like they want to make it quick,so they can stop hearing cove's voice, but alex seems didnt know whats happening at the front,he is too happy enjoying with his set.lol
this is my favorate band and the first band i listened to as a young kid. Beautiful intro to this song, im sorry but the singer fucking killed it. Anthony Green with the rest of the band made saosin amazing. Its too bad to see such a wonderful group fallen apart
Lol, okay, first off. Why are you calling it a "growl". Its called a scream, and cove RARELY screams. These "growls" you are hearing is because he is straining his voice because he let it go to shit and can't hit those notes. There are plenty of singers that sing and scream and sound perfect, because they know the proper way to do it. Don't get me wrong, I loved the self titled cd with Cove. It's one of my favorite cd's. He did great on it. But "growling" didn't ruin his voice.
sad to see this one of the last performances with Cove before he was canned. He can do WAY better than this, and he is too rad of a dude to be ripped on
@snusskalle there was actually an interview he did...dont remember where it was. but the reason he stopped doing warm ups was because people in the band started to shit on him for his voice, so he just kinda said fuck it then
Vocal damage from strain and stress smoking coupled with being bullied by 4 douche bags, telling you can’t sing everyday of your life. Cove had a lot of talent and great natural tone but it got ruined in this band’s run. If you listen to the vocal stems from the self titled, you hear how good his voice actually was. The saosin guys are dicks.
I think it is impossible to sing such a difficult song better than that. If someone could do it better than Cove did on this live then I would appreciate to see it right now.
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Their drummer alex rodriguez is a fucking legend 🤯🤯
He’s got such a groove really enjoy his style!!!!
Definitely not probably the drummer posting on his own song lol
Revisiting this video like 10 years later. The vocals are not nearly as bad as I remember them being. Still better than what I could do tbh.
Cove just played a set with them a few days ago. His vocals have improved so much.
They’re pretty bad. Especially considering what cove is actually capable of.
@@titzmageexhe was super burned out at this point. He wasn’t treated well his first go around in the band. It definitely wore him out
He's over singing on purpose, not sure why, but he certainly didn't look happy through that performance.
Wow this actually makes me feel confident about my singing.
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Cove really damaged his vocal chords...such a shame it hurt his career as well as the future of Saosin. Imagine had he never been let go...the songs they could've made
WHERE IS MY BODY WASH!!!!
its like watching a high school talent show lmao....
your comment made my day
Except everyone is great here aside from the singer
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I used to be mad about them kicking Cove out of the band. But now I see that it was absolutely necessary. Otherwise, his bad singing would've made the rest of the band look horrible and that's just not fair. The 4 of them are SPECTACULAR musicians.
Yea this performance clearly shows he damaged his vocal chords and proves why they let him go. Still love what they made
Right?! This is my favorite album of theirs but Cove wasn’t the right fit. He seems to be pushing it far past his vocal abilities. The original lineup kicks way more ass. I here cove is stepping in for Scary Kids. I hope he doesn’t bring them down too. I fucking love that band!!!
@@ptrekboxbreaks5198he didn’t damage his vocals, he was just never very good to begin with and had a higher vocal range when he first joined compared to a few years later when he matured and his voice dropped. His voice was also crazy overproduced on the Self Titled album. Howard Bensen made that record sound amazing
@@natemoon9796 that’s not true. Check out dead American and the dude is fantastic. I love Saosin but the truth of the matter is his band mates were assholes to him. They constantly let him know he was never good enough and man, after a while that weighs on a person. Howard Benson got good vocals out of him because he worked with him and empowered the dude to have some confidence.
@@natemoon9796 his vocal range is insane....a lot of work was probably done to keep him on pitch. I would put money on it that if he had a vocal teacher and lots of practice, he could have been great.
I feel sorry for Cove dude, bloke sounds amazing in the studio, but pushed it so far that it was almost impossible to replicate that live....
And his smoking didn't help...he destroyed his vocal chords between that and the singing...such a shame
I come here every 1am just to have a good laugh.
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Dude I miss this band. One of my faves back in the day
"It's Far Better To Learn (How To Sing)"
You had one job...
I came here cause I Love Saosin and to read the comments. Some of you guys are so mean! Did he ever find his body wash though?
Hahaha
Coves new band is called Dead American, it's pretty good 👍👍👍
Cove was a vocalist with tons of potential. That's why he was so inconsistent. He never learned to train his voice. That's why howard benson could get great vocals out of him, and he was so inconsistent live. He just wasn't ready to be a professional singer no matter how awesome his voice and range could've been.
Ryndan Riley i heard he started smoking weed constantly. Who is benson btw?
@@AlexanderLeGrand17 He admitted to smoking cigarettes but that's hardly enough to have that inconsistent of a voice. Benson was the dude who produced their self-titled.
Howard benson former UFC champ?
It doesn’t help that I don’t think the band ever tried to let him be his own, they always wanted a replacement for Anthony and I think that caused some issues.
they should have just let Beau sing and added Phil Sneed from story of the year :)
I once ran up to Anthony Green at a Circa Survive/MCR show and said "you've been really diplomatic in the press about the whole Cove Reber thing, but they're nothing without you." His reply,,,"I know."
Is this real?
Well...he was good on the records lol
dude you kill me
This is an old comment . But cove can sing. Trust me I've seen them 6 times live. Dude is fucking awesome
@@somersfamily i agree, the come close dvd shows how good cove could be
You guys realise the DVD shows are heavily edited and have lots of pitch correction/autotune on right?
Bruh this video makes Cove look like absolute shit, but I saw Saosin live with Cove like 4 times and they were amazing. Vocals on point. Idk what the excuse is here though lol
True passion is shown by dedication to excellence in your craft and your art. Passion would be working your ass off to be the best singer possible because thats what matters most, and you can tell from this, and numerous other videos like it that it's just simply not the case.
hard song to cover and sing
Even it's hard for cove himself
WHERE IS MY BODY WASH?! Forever. 🖤
1:47 bombastic side eye
Based on the quality of Cove's trash stash, this was well into his "checking out" of the band after years of ridicule by the rest of the band.
He wasn't bad, I enjoyed his vocals more than Green's even, but the same thing that made Anthony leave Saosin was probably the same thing that effected Cove: Difference in direction of which the instrumentalists were unwilling the waver on.
+PrizeFighter I see your point but anthony is back :P
This sounds like their Live in Philly album.
The reason he wasn't singing right or not trying was because he was no longer happy being in the band. There was a lot of drama between cove and the other band members.
There appears to be an echo in the venue where this was recorded. Also; His mic is wayyy to fucking loud. The other mics are barely even on.
Anthony was meant for Circa Survive,this dude was Saosin haters gonna hate
Does anyone know whether Anthony does Cove songs or vise versa?
historyof LOL yes, AG has done two songs when Cove took over.
"WHERE IS MY BODYWASH!?" (Cove Reber)
I always wondered about the range issue. And I always wondered how much he was pushing himself to get those notes - this shows that he was pushing himself way too much and too dangerously. Its a shame.
My ears are bleeding from those vocals, no joke!
Back when the studio version was on youtube you could have heard the good version.
You know it's sad to see a amazing band like this drop down to this level. I remember the first time I saw them back in 07 and then later in 2010 it was a terrible difference.
If his vox weren't 10 times to loud it really wouldn't sound so bad.
Exactly. A lot of this could have been fixed with a better live mix. His vocal is way too loud and needs to be compressed. Is it a great performance? No. But this mix highlights Cove’s mistakes WAY too much.
does vocalist wearing ralp lauren shoes?
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@Epitomeofextreme it depends on the person. cuz some people it fucks them up, some it doesn't.
the drummer looks like the guitarist of under oath lol
You're right
@snusskalle i take it you watched older live videos or the dvd?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I LOVE SAOSIN AND COVE BUT, THIS IS FUNNY HAHAHAHA
I feel very sorry for Cove though. He only got into the band because his audition tape sounded similar to Anthony Green. For the years he was in Saosin, he was always compared to Anthony Green and so many of the old Saosin fans hated him because he was similar but not the same to Green. Finally, Cove was kicked out of Saosin. Gotta feel bad for him
2019?
wonder who there new singer is gonna be
Clic Like, if you are still enjoying this awesome song since 2007
was this right before they kicked him out?
How can you say that while listening to this?
3 back up vocals isn't enough
Hahaha so true
I hate that cove lost his voice. He used to be amazing live but I guess he's one of the unlucky vocalists who lose their ability to sing live after years of constant strain. Sad that he lost such an amazing voice.
Nah. It was the chain smoking and never warming up.
Ever listen Dead American? Hmm I guess not
@@aaronmalcolm8890 it's not the same power and range that he used to have tho. If you listen to live versions of Dead American songs you'll see his overall quality of voice had downgraded. However, he was able to hit that high note on Voices back on 2018 so maybe he's just not trying to push his voice as much
@@bangbangcabrera very well could be true. The big thing to remember is that he was also trying to maintain the range of Anthony Green while he was still in Saosin. I think manny try to compare apples to oranges. Both are great in their own ranges. I love both of them as musicians and wish them both great success in the future
@@aaronmalcolm8890 definitely agree with you there, while Cove prob damaged his voice trying to equal Anthony's range they're both super amazing and talented singers. Just like you said, they'll get compared but they're both on their own levels
@applebug yeah, they can record good shit, but playing live is a vital component to ALL bands. regardless.
@Swansen03 So many factors kill your voice, if you wanna be really careful you wont smoke, drink alcohol or acidic fruit juice, you wont eat dairy, you wont eat several hours before bed, you need a lot of sleep, you should warm up before every show and have should a routine of excercises - but we all know if you're in a band that just can't really happen most of the time.
You can't control it if you've just recorded an album where you recorded too high vocals then had to tour it, is a shame.
so sad he stopped warming up his voice and caring before performances :(
People... Cove is a great singer.... In fact the only reason i ever listened to this band was because of him, so check out some real performances and stop gazing and magnifying on the couple that arent nearly as horrible as any other rock band that cant sing, but just scream and jump. We all know that Cove can sing, and sing well. Its the people that cant get over Anthony that love to feed on vids like this. Check out some ISOSG live performance DVD vids, or come close. And then hate, impossible
this song is awesome..
2019 anyone?
@pheargynt Cove was kicked partially because he chain smoked before most of Saosin's live concerts (and ruined his singing in the process).
@quin2222 what are you saying?
@adamfitchadam 's been singing for quite a while, he'd learn control over that period, and, if you listen from when he started to later shows, a few years, he got a lot better. According to a few band members Cove smokes cigarettes.. like often. i'm sure that killed his voice
i came here for the drums..
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I love the hell out of Cove but I can't help but laugh... In a good way tho haha
Notice how as soon as cove stops singing, the rest of the band start smiling....lol.
cove sucks live....where is my body wash :D
damn LMFAO !!
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watch the Come Close DVD
@@historyoflol5611 it was produced after the live set. He didn't suck though, but he kinda jacked up his voice after their 2nd album.
@dirTliar they're looking at maybe the singer for tides of man who actually got kicked out of tides for wanting to audition for saosin.
No auto-tune????
Is tha Cove Reber singing?
@adammariucci THANK YOU, Saosin are great but when Cove sang he was only really using his nose and a fuck tonne of computers to make it good hence the ultra fail at concerts.
This isn't anything like being at an actual show in person - I've seen them live, and they were excellent. This video is not representative of what Saosin is like live when you're there (seems like a lot of live videos do this to bands).
Im a big fan of saosin, im always listening to their music, my phone has 90% of their songs...I think....his voice deteriorates because of his growrlings...ever since he learned how to growrl..his voice started to change....i think Cove pushed the limits of his vocal chords because hes trying to hard to growl....and for me,hes voice is purely for clean vocals...but I think due to the fact that theres no one in the band can growrl better, he put his voice to a grinding death...and took that place
His voice changed because he gave up and burnt out.
you can tell the whole time by the looks on the other members faces, "stick a fork in him"
A-Rod is such a fucking monster on drums
if you guys look most of their video,you can see the other members always put a face like they want to make it quick,so they can stop hearing cove's voice, but alex seems didnt know whats happening at the front,he is too happy enjoying with his set.lol
this is my favorate band and the first band i listened to as a young kid. Beautiful intro to this song, im sorry but the singer fucking killed it. Anthony Green with the rest of the band made saosin amazing. Its too bad to see such a wonderful group fallen apart
Lol, okay, first off. Why are you calling it a "growl". Its called a scream, and cove RARELY screams. These "growls" you are hearing is because he is straining his voice because he let it go to shit and can't hit those notes. There are plenty of singers that sing and scream and sound perfect, because they know the proper way to do it. Don't get me wrong, I loved the self titled cd with Cove. It's one of my favorite cd's. He did great on it. But "growling" didn't ruin his voice.
If you love SAOSIN come check out ZERO THE HERO
can't believe he performed this way......iam so dissapointed....he did pretty well on the dvd though....
great drum groove ever .
This is why Cove got kicked out, folks.
sad to see this one of the last performances with Cove before he was canned. He can do WAY better than this, and he is too rad of a dude to be ripped on
"Where is my body wash!" haha :p
cove should've just hardcore screamed the whole song
@kissmyaxx various sources, few band members includes said cove smokes cigarettes
Damn! Adam Sandler killed it!
You didn't know anthony rejoined for a show in the future? Hopefully a tour too!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I JUST LOL'D FOR YEARS
How many years? Seven?
Man, why is Cove so out of 'pitch control'? By the way, I dont remember what brought me here? LOL
@snusskalle there was actually an interview he did...dont remember where it was. but the reason he stopped doing warm ups was because people in the band started to shit on him for his voice, so he just kinda said fuck it then
Would love to hear anthony green sing in search of of solid ground
Yes.. .... Please
The singer seems to have no monitor, hes singing in the wrong key while still singing the right(more or less) intervalls :D.
I agree
It's still such a bummer he fried his voice straining it for Saosin for so long.
i have a feeling he wasn't warmed up very much or at all. and yea he sounded way louder than necessary.
I dont know why everyone says Cove is awful live, because to be honest Anthony isn't much better.
No wonder they moved on from Cove. JFC, what is this?
Vocal damage from strain and stress smoking coupled with being bullied by 4 douche bags, telling you can’t sing everyday of your life. Cove had a lot of talent and great natural tone but it got ruined in this band’s run. If you listen to the vocal stems from the self titled, you hear how good his voice actually was. The saosin guys are dicks.
well.. that explains a lot
His confidence was gone by this point.
yeah theyre all from years ago your right
Here voice are faded different from 2007 tsskk I miss the old voice
Cove should have said "what is my singing worth" !
but yeah one of the reason of losing his vocals is smoking.... but was kicked out for something else.....
I hate what happened to Cove's voice. The fact he chose to be a producer vs make music shows he had permanent, or chronic damage to the folds.
u should watch his new band patriot.he sound amazing on vocal and screaming in there.guess he went to a vocal coach
I think it is impossible to sing such a difficult song better than that.
If someone could do it better than Cove did on this live then I would appreciate to see it right now.
MrDoublelame uhh... Anthony Green lol
@@xXJettaXx to my knowledge green never singed this song
anthony green!
Mom , this is not a phase
the music sounded so freeking good then he started singing