"I used to idolize cat (Fat Cat), Hurt me in my heart to hear that nigga snitched on Pap ("Pappy" Mason), how he go out like that?" - 50 cent, ghetto quran
The point he's making is bottom line he cooperated and so did Sammy, its not that no one went to jail, you should have never had the conversation in the first place, so these mafia mf was just trying to save their own asses smfh
@@cosanostra6629 Regardless to what one thinks, it feel it's honorable, for there's a criminal code of honor among them, or among people whom chosen that life style! The fact they were willing to sit down, to attempt to hash out their differences and not involve other people (just the 2 of them) can be considered honorable among their element! Most people, whom have never lived somewhat, a criminal lifestyle (not saying you ... but people in general) may feel differently and they are entitle to their opinion! However, I felt it; there was honorable among them, for the 2 of them, to make an attempt in putting all differences aside, enough to sit at a table and talk like men. It's called diplomacy and I applaud their efforts for attempting to conduct themselves civilly! We all know, this could've turned out way differently, with more lives being involved, instead they had chosen to have a sit down, in an attempt to preserve lives, or to deter others from joining that lifestyle! I can respect that! Regardless, if others feel different! Peace!
I don’t care about any of this “who’s a rat, who’s not a rat” shit but Sammy trying to bring Franzese to his same level like “we’re the same!” is so good 😂 He reeeeally don’t want to be the only one at the table
Precisely. Michael though, did NOT break the spirit of the "code". The pure essence of the codes, is a protection utility that you never give up your brother, to save yourself. And Michael wasn't in breach of that.
also, like Sammy said, what good was the oath when Gotti set him up. Like he said, why should he rot in prison forever and up hold his end, when Gotti didn't.
A lot of people forget that fact...he basically set Sammy up to take the fall by mentioning his name in phone taps, leaving records, purposefully, so the feds would trail Sam and not him. Gotti did it in a sly way. Had Gotti not been so reckless, those two might still be running New York.
So if Micheal is telling the truth about him not being a rat then what oath do he feel like he broke apparently he got guilt about something he did or said to the cops that broke it whether someone went to jail or not, or he wouldn't be mentioning it🤔🤔🤔
I never put a lot of value into this life but I guess I can understand why some people joined. However, looking at this video of those who were deep inside, I can totally understand their perspective and why they look at it with such contempt. They basically made a vow to a lifestyle which essentially ruined their lives. Them and most of those who lived it generally had to kill people, fear being killed or watch their backs because of a life that effectively destroyed them. Even if they made money, it cost them everything.
Mike gave his father’s definition of Omertà, then talked about how he himself broke Omertà. His father OK a hit on him. You don’t talk about your crimes…there is no such thing as the Mafia. Sammy is being straight and Mike is making excuses. If you broke Omertà…according to thier rules, you ratted.
Did this Michael guy snitch while his father was still alive or did he wait for him to die to become an informant sounds like his dad would have been real mad
His father was still alive. He notes here that after everything happened, he was talking to his father in their family kitchen. His father's crew had a hit out on Michael and his father approved. But I believe they moved on past it because Michael never put anyone in prison.
@@zoo05zoo that's why I made the comment because it seems to me his father was down for the cause and it wouldn't matter to him who they were if they broke the rules they had to pay
@@AlexWilliams-c9l, his father was an underboss and definitely wanted him killed. But they both make great points here that the entire life was rather pointless. Sammy killed numerous people only for them to try and kill him. Michael went to prison, had his father put a hit out on him, siblings on drugs and his mother went a bit crazy.
Samm6bis jealous of Michael because he didn't take the stand and get 100's locked up like him. Sammy's a hater!!!! Micheal is real about what he has done. Stay strong 💪 Michael 🙏!!!!!!
@Larry O’Flynn that was in the early 80s before he risen he was afraid of Roy demeo because if you were in his position would you watch out for a guy like him considering the fact that he does more work but also off the record kind of shit from what I heard about Roy demeo he also killed a made guy without getting an ok or wasn’t even made at that time but it was off the record .
Sammy the bull is the only guy that can play in his own movie
@@bronxzu9113 fact lol
Yeah as a snitch
Sammy is mad Michael didn’t get anyone locked up lol
Lol
Michael got many people locked up. He is a complete liar.
He did rat and that’s a no no
@@dennisrodriguez3670he rat 🐀 on who exactly?
@@harwn999he talked to agents about crimes rat
I don't think sammys rehabilitated🤣
He’s definitely not
Yeah he’s a snitch regardless
He's out but he's clearly not rehabilitated.
At all
Not an ounce
I've been looking into cat. I dig Sammy Sammy spoke up for him ✊
I know him and the crew. Real deal new York dudes
@@dirtysouthhc2936 💯
Ain't no real honor being no gangster
There is keep your circle small lol
None whatsoever, but in this culture it’s great stuff to be associated with the mob!
@@JohnHead-sj9cp true
The bull tryna say Mike you're just as much as a grass as me 😂😂😂
@@Jammo1978 🤣
"I used to idolize cat (Fat Cat), Hurt me in my heart to hear that nigga snitched on Pap ("Pappy" Mason), how he go out like that?" - 50 cent, ghetto quran
What other choice did he have his crew turned on him and got him a case
Pap said cat ain't tell on him
Pap should have listened to
Exactly I read the street magazine interview they asked him did Cat snitch on him he said he'll no@@marvjay718
Helped cop my first gsx-r, had the 4Runner the Z the 5 and the 3.
Gotta give Sammy credit for calling BS on Mike’s “speech.”💯
@@MAArch-ec7se 💯
Sammy is a snitch. Credit no. Snitch is a snitch
Mike you took the stand. Stop trying to be above it
He didn’t take the stand. He had a proffer hearing.
The point he's making is bottom line he cooperated and so did Sammy, its not that no one went to jail, you should have never had the conversation in the first place, so these mafia mf was just trying to save their own asses smfh
@@dirkdavenport9777 you’re not The mafia how the fuck you know documentaries books interview you don’t fucking know ….
Right he won’t just say he did
@@blackberry0018 one tell tell they cooperated? Their Out! Lol
Cat told on himself tho..he told on himself to save his mom
Facts
Why you saying that like it's a bad thing?
Im not..im just saying its not really telling if u telling on urself@@FloydMoneyMay
@@FloydMoneyMayFam, you don't understand the spirit of context.
@@camiam91387 true
Here is my take on this. Sammy has wisdom as Michael does. IMO, Michael knew how to win a sitdown and, he won this hands down.
@@johnvandenheuvel6792 word word
I mean it's so great when honorable men can sit down and just talk! The diplomacy in this video was intense, but amazingly passionate!
Honorable men huh lol what’s honorable about them ?
@@cosanostra6629 Regardless to what one thinks, it feel it's honorable, for there's a criminal code of honor among them, or among people whom chosen that life style! The fact they were willing to sit down, to attempt to hash out their differences and not involve other people (just the 2 of them) can be considered honorable among their element! Most people, whom have never lived somewhat, a criminal lifestyle (not saying you ... but people in general) may feel differently and they are entitle to their opinion! However, I felt it; there was honorable among them, for the 2 of them, to make an attempt in putting all differences aside, enough to sit at a table and talk like men. It's called diplomacy and I applaud their efforts for attempting to conduct themselves civilly! We all know, this could've turned out way differently, with more lives being involved, instead they had chosen to have a sit down, in an attempt to preserve lives, or to deter others from joining that lifestyle! I can respect that! Regardless, if others feel different! Peace!
@@DBNEBMUSICGROUPyou sound like food.
2 rats
@@dblockvillinWho did Michael "rat" on.
Sammy a Lil envious
Lol
Those two people sitting the background are manicans. No way someone can sit still that long without moving.
Sammy wants rat company lol…
U are missing the point here . Sammy doesnt appreciate lesser men making themselves out to be bigger then him because of a difference in opinion.
@@petej7002 lol 😂😂😂😂 that's cute
He is definitely gonna find it in the comments. You see Pete was quick to defend the lack of integrity
@@realmontana6838 🤣🤣
Sammy insulted him a little bit
Nah he didn't insult nobody give us a drink give us a drink
He did. Just a little bit.
Aye look, right is right!
@@renzo7503 One minute we're hugging and kissing over here, then all of a sudden he's acting like a fkn jerk!
😂😂😂😂
Well that escalated quickly
Facts
Michael made the choice not to tell on any Colombo members. Sammy had an issue with John Gottis leadership and said fuck it. Very simple.
That’s the best statement anyone has said, 💯% agree!
I don’t care about any of this “who’s a rat, who’s not a rat” shit but Sammy trying to bring Franzese to his same level like “we’re the same!” is so good 😂 He reeeeally don’t want to be the only one at the table
@@joojoobaw😂😂😂😂
Precisely. Michael though, did NOT break the spirit of the "code".
The pure essence of the codes, is a protection utility that you never give up your brother, to save yourself.
And Michael wasn't in breach of that.
also, like Sammy said, what good was the oath when Gotti set him up.
Like he said, why should he rot in prison forever and up hold his end, when Gotti didn't.
Phuck the public record, I can get the unpublic record 😂😂😂
And it's all cap. He just doesn't wanna be a lonely sewage rat.
@@jmezi404 lol
Worthy the watch. All they need is some Italian Wise Guy meal to go with it. Respect 💯
@@Moose-iz1uo 🤣🤣
Sammy actually right, your not supposed to talk about anything at all to the law enforcement..taking a plea is ratting
@@checkmeoutmusic2024 fact
What Sammy the Bull says is far more honest than Mike. Sammy is holding Mike ACCOUNTABLE and not let Mike spin the truth of what he did.
Let sammy talk... He isn't allowing sammy the floor to talk 💯💯💯💯💯
*THIS IS THEIR CULTURE* this the side of yt’s they don’t show
💯💯💯
@@fellowamerican7923 💯
You ain’t heard of lil thing called the godfather?😂
RICO makes everybody tell period!
No it doesn't
@@anubis7652 you a square!
@@anubis7652 course it did. Once RICO went into law the mafia started falling apart.
Facts
Bullshit. My brother did over 20 yrs for not saying a word, and I did 8 and didn't say anything either.
Damn when he said “i can get the unpublic record” he shut mike up fr 9:50
Listening to Sammy dbl talk about Omerta is comical.
Sammy is right according to tradition! Michael was the new school flash Yuppie Don who supposed to secretive!
Don't talk yeah right they all tell on each other it just who tell first
So funny how no one wants to live with saying 'Im a snitch' like its self termination or something lol
Sammy is incredibly insecure
That mfr got mad at the end he said if this was years ago youd be dead 😭 dude sitting in the middle is lost for words 🤣😂
Mike snitched as well that's like saying gunna not a snitch
He didn’t talk about his crimes he was convicted
Not the point, the conversation shouldn't have taken place in the first place
Gotti ratted on Sami first.
A lot of people forget that fact...he basically set Sammy up to take the fall by mentioning his name in phone taps, leaving records, purposefully, so the feds would trail Sam and not him.
Gotti did it in a sly way.
Had Gotti not been so reckless, those two might still be running New York.
So if Micheal is telling the truth about him not being a rat then what oath do he feel like he broke apparently he got guilt about something he did or said to the cops that broke it whether someone went to jail or not, or he wouldn't be mentioning it🤔🤔🤔
Who's "about that life"? That ain't tha life! 🙄
I never put a lot of value into this life but I guess I can understand why some people joined. However, looking at this video of those who were deep inside, I can totally understand their perspective and why they look at it with such contempt. They basically made a vow to a lifestyle which essentially ruined their lives. Them and most of those who lived it generally had to kill people, fear being killed or watch their backs because of a life that effectively destroyed them. Even if they made money, it cost them everything.
Sammy seems to have selective memory. He took down and ratted on HOW many of his former associates?
Sammy don’t play! Mike as usual, more intelligent than anyone, in his own mind. All tricks these guys 🤣
Sammy still got balls
Yeeeeeaaaaah Sammy wants to ring his neck every time he see's him
Mike gave his father’s definition of Omertà, then talked about how he himself broke Omertà. His father OK a hit on him. You don’t talk about your crimes…there is no such thing as the Mafia.
Sammy is being straight and Mike is making excuses. If you broke Omertà…according to thier rules, you ratted.
Sammy was right because this guys trying to skate around talking to agents. Everyone at that table ratted .
Did this Michael guy snitch while his father was still alive or did he wait for him to die to become an informant sounds like his dad would have been real mad
His father was still alive. He notes here that after everything happened, he was talking to his father in their family kitchen. His father's crew had a hit out on Michael and his father approved. But I believe they moved on past it because Michael never put anyone in prison.
@@zoo05zoo that's why I made the comment because it seems to me his father was down for the cause and it wouldn't matter to him who they were if they broke the rules they had to pay
@@AlexWilliams-c9l, his father was an underboss and definitely wanted him killed. But they both make great points here that the entire life was rather pointless. Sammy killed numerous people only for them to try and kill him. Michael went to prison, had his father put a hit out on him, siblings on drugs and his mother went a bit crazy.
The reality is . .their all criminals..lol😊😅😂
Wow Sammy you betrayed your best friend
You don't have no friends in that kind of life
No honor among Thieves
Aint No Friends, it's a matter of survival!
Y’all can say eat this rat that but the name of the game is who last the longest trick them off the streets
No it isn't
@@anubis7652 that’s what you think but rules changed mf
@@anubis7652 and never was.
Samm6bis jealous of Michael because he didn't take the stand and get 100's locked up like him. Sammy's a hater!!!! Micheal is real about what he has done. Stay strong 💪 Michael 🙏!!!!!!
Omerto?😂
Sonny Franzeze and John Gotti were the real deal.
Gotti, yeah. Francese sang like a canary.
@@busterbiloxi3833 Nah. Sonny was John Gotti before John Gotti. He aint talk to nobody.
Sammy you Rat on John because you thought John was gonna rat John would never gonna rat on no one he was a mens men
SCREAM MOVIE IS IT BARI OVENS
Mike scared to death of Sammy
Facts lol, he would never speak to him like that in the 80s
@@cosanostra6629 sure he would
Even back then money trumped muscle with the bosses
@@reddwing4368 Um you do realize Sammy made money as well and was a higher rank than Michael was.
@@reddwing4368 Sammy was muscle and money. Plus Sammy was capable of putting in his own work.
@Larry O’Flynn that was in the early 80s before he risen he was afraid of Roy demeo because if you were in his position would you watch out for a guy like him considering the fact that he does more work but also off the record kind of shit from what I heard about Roy demeo he also killed a made guy without getting an ok or wasn’t even made at that time but it was off the record .
So not interested.
Smh
SUPREME HAS NO TATTOOS
Omerto lol
Stay snitching
Hes the mvr most valuable rat
✊
Sooo by Sammy definition 69 isn’t a snitch lol
Yea they got this snitching theory that gives them the okay 😂
😂
🧀 🐀 ‘s
Big rat
Sammy69 🐀
Sammy your a rat
go had sammy what the hell you know about a proffer agreement
Lol
Sammy is a PC Rat for the last 30 years longer than he was a Gangster
Sammy the RAT🐀
Sammy a grass lol
2 Rats 🐀 😂
Sammy is a snitch
Sammy the rat is talking to michael about rats to funny
Sword_Re X5B,,,