MARIANNE FAITHFULL: Her Art, Value, and Influence - part one |
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- Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024
- Though she was mainly known because of her association with prominent 1960s music figures, Marianne Faithfull left behind body of work in the sixties that merits closer inspection. In this part one video, we will go into her music spanning 1964-1967.
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I work for Marianne and it’s been an honour of a lifetime 🙂 she’s a true legend!
How fortunate you are! I just listened to one of her new releases 2 days ago and it was so good to hear her! Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to leave a comment. My part two video will be out in a few days.
I enjoyed this presentation,
“Pop Go The 60’s”
so once again,
thanks!
However...
I found an
interesting rabbit hole here...
I was prompted to look up
the 1966 album
“North Country Maid”
I found it on Wikipedia
and read that a “Mick Taylor”
is credited with the arrangement
on the song “Cockleshells”
This “Mick Taylor” is highlighted
to be clicked on and...
lo! and behold!...
The click connects you to the Wikipedia page of Mick Taylor,
Rolling Stone Bluesbreaker
wot replaced the most
Golden of Stones Brian Jones,
in 1969...
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Country_Maid
I’m finding it difficult to credit
that ‘69-‘74 Rolling Stone
Mick Taylor played acoustic guitar on a Marianne Faithfull track in 1966 but hey!
I’m willing to accept it, too...
if indeed it is the case...
I have never read or heard of
this before and it seems more
likely that another UK guitarist
by the name of
Michael “Mick” Taylor
played on this track...
and the editing on the
“North Country Maid”
Wikipedia page is less than accurate...
However...
If indeed it IS the SAME
Mick Taylor who became a
Rolling Stone in 1969...
Well, then...fair nuff...
I mean I love Mick Taylor,
Marianne Faithfull, Brian Jones
and The Rolling Stones
but I guess
I missed this info...
Not a huge deal
but it caught my eye and ear here
open.spotify.com/track/0BV68LgngVZLot6rpUsrYi?si=GBzQpxOvRb-F8LALdyRmEg
Lucky you! :) Marianne has been my favorite singer since I was 14. Although I'm more into her career after her voice got lower. What do you for Marianne? Are you a musician?
I have loved her, she is my female, tarnished idol; Leonard Cohen (RIP) was, well still is my "tarnished" idol. I require idols to be like me, NOT well scrubbed- in Canada, Marianne's albums were often overlooked- I found the first one featured here in a variety store, discontinued, 2.99- I probably screamed in delight, and went home, playing it for days on end, still a favorite. Bought a CD, scratches! I envy you to know her, to have worked with her. I would be her maid for free, just to be around her. I love her lack of self pity ( have my own addictions and a dork therapist had the nerve to suggest her "dark, angry" Broken English, superlative! acted as a trigger, goodbye!) Thank you for not putting Marianne out there as Mick's Muse, my neighbour in his 80's heard an old album one day when I was gardening and thought it was me! I wish! I hastily informed him, held up the album and he goes into his house and gets his daughter who I dig, but she said, " oh HER, my gosh she STILL puts out records- looking at her dad, explaining she was MICK JAGGER'S GIRLFRIEND...I rolled my eyes, I dig them the grandson was a good drummer, so I let it go...just an anecdote to showcase how many ages and kinds of people who love that "little bird" . She is a survivor and far from being a "trigger" ( maybe shopping! I read every book she recommends, never been disappointed yet) her music, the nostalgic photos of her in her gorgeous clothes, her films, I love to spend an afternoon watching, Girl on a Motorcycle, her memoirs, her interviews, I cant imagine my life without her. I don't buy Rolling Stones albums anymore find them tiresome, rather listen to Charlie Watta Quartet, but Marianne's albums are ALWAYS bought, played, loved...thanks, I cant express what this remarkable woman, I wish I REALLY knew her has and will always mean to me. Please pass this on to her. I have never seen her in concert- might she come to Toronto? I know her health isn't great. I send her Buddhist prayers on prayer flags! Much love a fan.
I humbly thank you. Too often, nobody seems to read, care let alone answer. I really appreciate your taking the time. Namaste, Z. (looking forward to listening to Part 2)
She was among the guests in the Beatles live performance of All You Need Is Love.
This is a real treat. Thank you for mentioning her French and Italian sung singles which many have overlooked. It was a WOW seeing some of that ultra rare footage- just incredible! I sure wish those 2 Italian singles would get reissued! This woman deserves only greatness for all the gifts she has given us over the years. I'm Forever Faithfull Indeed.
Great stuff. Love Marianne but only know the last 2 albums and Broken English. Great to see some credit to Marianne for her early work. I shall go have a listen to her early records.
Thank you, Edward!
These two episodes were so informative and heartbreaking! Her voice was exquisite. I'm so very sorry she went through hell, but apparently she made it through! Thanks so much for recommending her memoir; I'll definitely read it.
Hello Penny. Thank you for watching both parts. I really love her music and her bio is also very good.
Much of Marianne Faithfull's early music seems close to what Mary Hopkin would later do with Apple, as well as sounding like later contemporary folk rock acts like Pentangle and Fairport Convention.
Yes, there is a link between the sound of Pentangle and Fairport for sure. It't too bad she didn't continue making much music from 1967-1969. More to come in part two!
@@popgoesthe60s52 I also hear the sort of "baroque folk" that Judy Collins was making around that time.
Interesting profile! I'm looking forward to more of her story, here.
@@deanjonasson6776 Yeah, When I heard some of the early clips here, I thought it reminded me of Pentangle, Judy Collins and Mary Hopkin. From this thread, I see I'm not the only one who had that thought.
A truly, truly underrated artist who, at this time, had the voice of an absolute angel. I would suggest that all of those albums, both British and American versions, are well worth getting. Looking forward to part two already.
Love your dives into the '60s artists that time has pushed off into the margins.
Pleasantly surprised to hear Marianne's more upbeat take on King, Goffin, & Spector's "Is This What I Get For Loving You," with a Dixieland-style trumpet, clarinet & trombone breakdown within that primarily harpsichord-driven arrangement.
Thank you, Philip! I love her arrangements across the board. Too bad she didn't tour in the States.
My appreciation of this channel increases with every episode you drop. My compliments.
Thank you, Frank. Very kind of you to say.
I love her so much...why? Because of her charisma? Her beauty? I am obsessed by the 60th, Marianne, Anita, R.Stones...thank you for your video ❤
I am completely unaware of her, thank you for bringing her to your audience. Excellent!
You were just a fart 💨in a bath when she was singing sunshine 👶,,,, 😂
Was never a follower of her career, but I find her story fascinating. Very interesting that she shelved her career for Mick's benefit. obviously has me thinking of what direction her life would have taken had she not done that. Looking forward to part 2.
Thank you, sir!
Wrong 🙃, that selfish git jagger 👖💋, dumped her after the drug bust at junkie k Richards place 👮♂️, dunce 🙆♂️??
I was always drawn to Marianne Faithfull’s voice and to be honest, her looks and style. She was one of my favorite singers because she came off as sincere and authentic. Many of her songs have a Celtic phrasing. Unfortunately, as an American, I wasn’t aware of the breath of her material because hit singles instead of albums gave artists exposure then (the album era was yet to come full throttle). Looking forward to Part II.
Excellent! Your presentation style is really enjoyable and as far as I can tell your research is spot on. Great photos and film clips too. I have always particularly liked Mike Leander's arrangement of "Morning Sun." Because of the treatment of the harp, it doesn't actually sound much like "She's Leaving Home" which of course came later, but in both cases what unique production. Very much looking forward to part two. And thanks for this.
Thank you for the warm comment.
Yet another stunningly professional, insightful production!! You've aced it again Matt!!
Thanks, Tim! Much appreciated.
I'm leaving this comment actually even before watching the video. About time! Marianne deserves universal recognition as the great artist and woman she is. Working as a music journalist in Italy I've written some major features about her career and also had the enormous privilege of an interview some time ago. One of the greats. Her later records are also superb. She's actually one coming -spoken word poetry, alas she can't sing anymore after surviving covid - really soon featuring Warren Ellis of the Bad Seeds. Now I'll watch the video. I know I'll like it.
Thank you, Antonio. I hope the video lives up to expectations! If you have any link to your articles I would love for you to share them if possible. What a thrill to be able to interview her!
@@popgoesthe60s52 Can't wait for part 2 of your video. You really did justice to her pre-Jagger records, that are usually overlooked. Loved the comparison in sound and production to other popstars: it was nothing like the others; a companion to these records might be Chelsea Girl by Nico, what do you think? Anyway here's one of my articles; unfortunately it's in italian and originally came out in print. www.jamtv.it/content/la-ballata-di-marianne#.YDyzMhjck0M
@@antoniopp7169 Thank you Antonio! - I can run your article through an auto translator. Yes, Nico's Chelsea Girls is more in line with the direction Marianne went in. Of course Nico was an original in the extreme who also succumbed to heroin, so there are lots of similarities. Thanks again, Antonio!
what an amazing woman! i've modeled my looks and style after hers in the mid-late 60s for a number of years now in hopes to capture her spirit, she's such an inspiration
Her spirit is certainly worth capturing! Thanks for watching, Abigail.
You'd better calm down or l might start fancying you also 🥰, you never know you're luck 🍀🤔??
Excellent video, Matt. Loved Marianne's more poppy sixties tracks. As Tear's Go By has always a personal favourite - I have the instrumental break as my ringtone. Her Love In A Mist album is superb and is greatly underrated.
I was somewhat shocked at how good her interpretations were of the folk songs and how the pop songs sounded so mature, not derivative. Thank your for the nice compliment, Clive!
Your report tells me that singing came easy, natural to this intelligent young lady.
Got into her after someone gave me a cassette of "Broken English" in 1995 - loved her ever since. Beautiful flower in the 60s, tough old broad today! Thank you for these videos.
Check her out in The Rolling Stones Rock n Roll Circus. She looks great and her performance is heartbreaking.
Great video! Btw she was also the inspiration for The Hollies song "Carrie Anne"
You are correct. I will do a quick rundown of all the songs she inspired in the volume 2 video. Thanks for the comment!
Yeah that's right, your well studied 👍, they all fancied my maz 😬!!
I love this lady! She was so talented and an extraordinary beauty. Thank you for this episode.
You are quite welcome - Thanks for watching!
A really excellent insight into an artist I knew/know too little about. Really love the sound of that early material. Kudos for bringing her centre stage where she clearly belongs. Great work and looking forward to Part Two.
Thank you, Gary!
Fantastic job Matt..those early UK LPs are great to see..excellent presentation..Thank you sir
Excellent. Thank you.
Awesome. Like most I suppose only superficially aware of her early works, becoming a fan later on with the release of Broken English, most of what followed. Really appreciate the deep-dive here, dispelling some incorrect assumptions, myths that had grown up around her over the years.
Thank you, Steve!
One of my favorite songs is" Counting" on her "Faithfull Forever" album. I found that album in the summer of 1980 for 25c at the local Salvation Army. :)
I was always aware of her but never appreciated her music. Thanks for the video. In some of the music you played, her voice reminded me of Joan Baez. Looking forward to part two.
Tomorrows calling is one of my faves too! I love her vinyls from the 60s :) Thankyou for this video!
After "Hier ou demain" she did release one last single in the sixties, namely "Something Better/Sister Morphine" from '69, the A side of which she performed at the Rolling stones rock n' Roll circus in '68
I appreciate your videos so much because you feature some of the lesser featured recording artists such as Marianne Faithful, the Yardbirds, Spanky & Our Gang. Faithful had a song played on the AM radio in Boston, 1965 called Summer Nights, which enchanted me as a child and rarely heard. What about a feature on the band, Sweetwater?
Thank you for the comment and for the request. I will put it on my very long list!
Dear pop goes, I can write some articles for you and the star's 📝😊, as the roman proverb goes ✏️,,,,,, the right hand 🖐️, washes 💦👏the left hand 🤨,, xk
Love her singing and the song She sang something better" in rocking roll circus, but her voice is starting to change to that husky sound comparing to when she started her first song as tear's go by what have they done to the rain;" as well as others as this little bird;" her voice so sweet with that folk sound,but have to say through all her ups and downs and it's now 2022 at the age at 77 she's still going strong ,Love you Marianne,you will always be my idle,💖💖💖💖👍✌🙏🌹💏🌸🌈😘
Cool story , always documented and well illustrated !!!
love me Mariane , recognized the Velvet the stones and Beatles at beginning ...
didn't know all her life story , thanks sir !!!
Thank you! Volume 2 will be out in a few days.
cool : )
I think I spotted a copy of Marianne's auto biography on your desk - a really good read! Having the brilliant John Mark playing and producing certainly brought out her musical best, I believe.
I love Jon Mark's contribution to her albums - they are stripped back but edgy. Thanks for watching!
Excellent series. Would like to see a similar treatment for Nico -- and separate videos on The Velvet Underground and Lou Reed.
They are on my very long list! I appreciate the request and glad you liked the Marianne series.
I LOVE THESE! KEEP'UM COMING!
Please include her return with Broken English and beyond. Love that later stuff a lot
Finally, I've heard a portion of one of the many covers of Yesterday!
Great video. I really might buy the autobiography now!
Please do! It is well worth it.
No matter what she did later...her '60s LPs are great....and I focus on the stuff that counts....and will always appreciate that vibe...she really is her best doing edgy pop....her voice alone makes so much sadness....'65 to '69.....her golden times
Dang, i learned something new! Quality content so i HAD to drop that like. But at the time of doing so, it was at a 72/0 ratio of likes and dislikes.... which doesnt suprise me!
She was gorgeous in the 60s
Those who want to learn about the 60s musically speaking has to visit this channel. And you really know what you are talking about. Very good view of Marianne. I would to add only he became the inspiration for lots of musicians in that scene. They fell in love with her. The Hollies released a song about her though they changed to name to Carrie Ann.
Curiosity. Paul McCartney dated a girl who used to baby sit for Marianne's son. He used to be a lot in her house for being very close to John Dunbar.
I had three British girls as models. Pattie Boyd, Jane Asher and...Marianne Faithfull. I used to try my best to look a bit like them. I used to copy their clothes! And one day I was in a club when a friend of mine asked me if I had see the movie The girl in a motorbike. I had not seen that yet. And she told me I had to go because I looked very much like the motorbike girl. Who? Marianne Faithful! Gosh. I went to heaven and returned. Of course I never looked like her. But to know that someone thought so was enough for me. It was only the hair that looked alike.
Thank you for the compliment, Virginia and for sharing your Marianne look-alike story! I didn't know McCartney dated her son's babysitter. What a time! Thanks for the comment.
What a beautiful voice!
Great report. Hers is a career that earns this deep dive. Thanks.
Buffy Sainte-Marie deserves this treatment as well.
Thank you, Ed! Buffy Sainte-Marie is on my list, so you will be seeing a look at her 60s music here on my channel. Thanks for the comment!
@@popgoesthe60s52 Oh great! Looking forward.
Wow, I love this channel
Thank you, Lia. More to come.
I've always liked the stuff I've heard from Marianne Faithful, but I see there's of good stuff I didn't know about.
I love Broken English.
Gorgeous woman, with a distinctive, if not exceptional, voice.
It certainly became exceptional, later........
Excellent
Thank you so much 😀
hey man really liking your channel, would love to see you do a video on Dylan’s 65-67 which i think is arguably the most fascinating three year run of any artist. people kinda forget that when dylan went electric the beatles and the stones would go to visit him to try and capture whatever he was on, figuratively and probably literally. the four album run of bringing it all back home, highway 61, blonde on blonde and then the basement tapes/john wesley harding changed music as much anything. would highly recommend clinton heylin’s biography “behind the shades” for source material.
Thank you, Brian. I have some work to do before I do a Dylan video so thank you for the book recommendation. I was in need of a solid bio on Dylan. I do have an Album That Never Was in the works which is essentially a 'best of' of the Basement Tapes, so stay tuned!
@@popgoesthe60s52 fantastic topic very intrigued to see where you end up on that. heylin does as good a job as i've seen of stripping away the "manufactured," dylan that bob wants you to see and has close to 100 if not more pages dedicated to that period of early 65 through the recording of the basement tapes. one of the most prolific three year runs in history no doubt.
@@glass_oni0n Thanks, man!
6:15 Love her British folk music; remiinds me of Sandy Denny.
Can you imagine a record company today releasing two debut albums by the same artist simultaneously. It happened on the 15th April 1965 . In this case Marianne's "Come My Way" (folk) & "Marianne Faithfull" (pop). That shows some serious faith by DECCA records in London.
Agreed. They must of really had faith in her (pardon the pun.)
@@popgoesthe60s52 I met her after a gig about 10 years ago in Leamington Spa, UK. Plus my parents currently live 2 miles from Keith's Redlands (still owned by him since 1966) so I think of the 67' bust on passing Redlands drive (albeit now 54 years ago).
@@ianharwell7500 You're a lucky man to have met her!
Ian Copeland, brother of Stewart and Miles, and himself an important figure in the music industry, wrote of his relationship with Marianne in his autobiography Wild Thing. You may find the book to be of interest.
Thank you, I was unaware of that book. I'll check it out!
Matt, A superb video! But then you cherry picked my favorite songs from her first few records. I was in a Catholic boys high school when her singles came out (probably just as well as those singles had no picture sleeves), and while I would not classify her as a great singer, the material that she sang was right for her voice and the arrangements, as you pointed out, were restrained and avoided the adult contemporary sound. While I could listen to 'Summer Nights' over and over again (and will do so as I soon as I post this), the Jon Mark arrangements arethe ones that grabbed my attention. His guitar playing struck a chord (sorry) with me and set me up to fall under Bert Jansch's spell when His Vanguard compilation came out.Wow, I REALLY enjoyed your take.
And I love that Manfred Mann album. Manfred Mann's albums were stronger then even the early Stones stuff.
Hey Wylie - yes, Marianne's music is haunting and much of that has to do with Jon Mark's beautiful arrangements.
I enjoy your videos, please do one on Mary Hopkin. I think Paul McCartney produced her
music.
love the song Time Makes Time(think that is the name of the song sorry also Come And Stay With Me
I saw her first in SNL in 1979. I could not reconcile her voice and singing style that year (sounded like Iggy Pop) with the singing style of the sixties.
She was born on the 29/12/1946.the very same day as me she is 74 now so am I and we will kinda age together.
A biopic movie named 'Faithfull' was in production at the time the pandemic hit last year. I'm not sure if production has now resumed.
I did not know that. It seems biopics are popular now so Maybe they will continue it? Thanks for the comment, Adrian.
@@popgoesthe60s52 Lucy Boynton has been chosen for the lead role. She played Freddie Mercury's girlfriend in Bohemian Rhapsody (and happens to be my cousin! ).
@@adrianburn7178 Wow - how cool to have a working actor in the family! I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the info, Adrian!
Know what her cover of As Tears Go By sounds a lot like? Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow by the Shirelles.
I first discovered her through her cover of Yesterday. I was immediately stunned, sorry Paul but she sang it better!
I don't know about better but definitely different. And yes it is a phenomenal cover which I prefer also..
Matt do you know who played on Summer Nights great tune
I do not. Who?
The three main London session guitarists in London 1965 were: Big Jim Sullivan, Jimmy Page & Vic Flick.... so most likely one of these three. I agree, Summer Nights & Tomorrow's Calling ... for me her best 60's pop-folk tunes. I met her too!
@@ianharwell7500 did you like her
You know what I would really ‘dig’? If you could give us a sense of who was buying these records at the time. Were Marianne’s fans teens, young adults, beatniks, booky university arty types, mothers and fathers, bus drivers?
That's a good question. Several commenters have mentioned buying them in the 60s so they would have been in their mid to late teens. Her live audiences in 60s Europe seemed to be in the teens as well as the audiences in the TV studios. I would doubt she crossed over to an older demographic in the 60s simple because very few pop stars of that time did, but I could be wrong. Thanks for the inquiry, Tommy.
Her peak: Summer Nights
The British Judy Collins
When her records and films of her hit the states, I had a massive crush on her. I was struck by her delicate traditional English folk music sensibility, and of course her beauty. Then after Mick corrupted her life with his lifestyle and went "punk," and her voice changed, it really turned me off, and my attention turned elsewhere.
She decided to quit recording and "dedicate her efforts toward Mick." She could have done both! What a shame.
And Paul McCartney had a long and clandestine affair with Marianne and John Dunbar's live in nanny, Maggie McGivern, in the mid-late sixties. But that's a distraction from the talented and much loved Marianne.
Yes, someone mentioned that, which I was unaware of. It sure was a small world back then! Thank you, Dave!
I can’t get into her voice
i don't think she has much of a voice but I like how she interprets her songs.
Jagger ruined this wonderful lady !
In her biography, she doesn't paint Jagger as a villain or a contributory to her downward spiral, which I was surprised to see.
@@popgoesthe60s52 I'm more than surprised, still, can't argue with the lady if that's what she claims.
I'm afraid to post my comment because it's not at all like the rest or commensurate with your view on this artist. So I must be wrong! But you pressed one of my hot buttons. When you compared her to other British singers and mentioned Dusty Springfield as if Dusty wasn't as good I had to say hang on a second. Here's the difference; Dusty Springfield could sing! *Really* sing. She had a set of pipes. To me Marianne Faithfull's amateurish, affected vocal vibrato is annoying and I find it hard to listen to. She's occasionally a bit pitchy and TRULY is someone plucked randomly and shoved into the music spotlight. And in the beginning she didn't write the songs (mostly). At least other folk singers with irritating voices are *really* writing the music (I know she managed to get her name on a couple). I just am so tired of poor musicians and singers getting a pass - more than a pass but adulation - because of some kind of perceived contribution to the mosaic of a given zeitgeist, or they are supposedly "edgy" or "groundbreaking" (yawn). In my opinion Marianne Faithful is one of these people who are famous for being famous. Had Andrew Loog Oldham randomly chose another woman at the party it would be her we are talking about. There was no shortage at the time of pensive young people with self proclaimed ancient souls trying to re-contextualize 19th century philosophers. But where's the beef? Where the talent? You kept talking about it but gave nothing I could sink my teeth into. And by the way there's nothing wrong with pop music (e.g. Dusty Springfield) as if it's inherently lower than "simple folk music". Real people make a living and put food on the table. It's not easy to make a living in music. Miles Davis among others have railed against the idea that players have to chase perceived, illusory deep hipness or else. That's how fusion music was born at a time when heavy jazz cats had only disdain for rock.
Never be afraid to comment here! I must be clear on this point however that I wasn't suggesting Marianne Faithfull is a better singer or artist in any way over Dusty or the others. Merely that Marianne's image was less polished, less looked after, less managed. I am in total agreement with you that Marianne's vibrato is lacking. Her voice in general is weak, and she didn't have the determination to continue singing at a crucial time. What I love about her is her selection of material and her interpretations. The arrangement of her music strikes me differently than the others. I also agree that poor singers and artists shouldn't get a pass. My feeling on Faithfull is that her 60s material (save for 2 songs) is criminally overlooked and is not getting a pass here. I must also stress that I do not favor folk over pop. It's quite to the contrary, so I'm not sure why you came away with that opinion. Generally, I consider Faithful's work closer to pop in many cases. Her too-hip crowd that she mingled with in the 60s was her downfall. I have to concede that her work in the 60s is not vital, it just hits me in a special way.
"When you compared her to other British singers and mentioned Dusty Springfield as if Dusty wasn't as good..."
Where/when exactly did he do that? he didn't, that's where/when - not that I heard...He merely pointed out, 100% correctly, that Marianne's production was simpler, more sparse, often accompanied by only a guitar as opposed to the big bands with strings and horns in much of Dusty's production
@@popgoesthe60s52 "When you compared her to other British singers and mentioned Dusty Springfield as if Dusty wasn't as good..."
Where/when exactly did he do that? he didn't, that's where/when - not that I heard...He merely pointed out, 100% correctly, that Marianne's production was simpler, more sparse, often accompanied by only a guitar as opposed to the big bands with strings and horns in much of Dusty's production
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