The Imperfect Life of Elisabeth Elliot. What Christians Can Learn, with Ellen Vaughn
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Elisabeth Elliot was a young missionary in Ecuador when members of a remote Amazonian indigenous people group killed her husband Jim and his four colleagues. And yet, she stayed in the jungle with her young daughter to minister to the very people who had thrown the spears, demonstrating the power of Christ’s forgiveness.This courageous, no-nonsense Christian went on to write dozens of books, host a long-running radio show, and speak at conferences all over the world. She was a pillar of coherent, committed faith-a beloved and sometimes controversial icon. Author and Elisabeth Elliot biographer Ellen Vaughn joins the podcast to talk about researching Elisabeth’s life and being given access to her personal private journals. Turns out, that while things in the limelight might have looked golden, Elisabeth’s suffering continued refining her in many different and unexpected ways.
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I met Elisabeth Eliot in the early 1980s. She was by no means aloof and cold. She was a stoic with a dry wit and a passion for the lost souls of the people she was reaching out to.
Thank you for this thought-provoking interview. Ironically, Elisabeth’s second husband was my favorite college professor. He officiated at my marriage and left immediately afterward to get married. He was in such a hurry he forgot to sign our marriage certificate!
He sounds like he was the love of her life. Such a picture of him in my mind from ur story. Sweet.
Wonderful and funny anecdote!
After my husband and daughter were murdered in 2015, I listened to Elisabeth Elliot constantly. God used her so much in my life! Then she passed away a month later. Thank you for sharing more of her life!
Wow! I am so sorry for your loss. I cannot even fathom it. (((HUGS)))
I’m so sorry for your loss.
🥺
I hope you've experienced God's nearness in your pain. I'm so sorry for all that you have lost in this life.
I'm going to be 75 in November God Willing. I'm Orinally from the UK and have lived in Australia since age 22. I came to know Jesus in 1975. To be honest Im a shamed to say I have never heard of Elizabeth Elliott until recently when I fell asleep listening something on my mobile phone, when I woke up early in the morning I notice one of Elizabeth's video's Suffering is not for Nothing!! Since then I have spoken to people at my church and told them to find Elizabeth on the internet and watch her other videos and the documentary Beyond the 'Gates of Spendor' and the movie 'End of The Spear.' Thanks once again. God's Love and Grace Francis
Elisabeth Elliot ~
"We must quit bending the Word to suit our situation. It is we who must be bent to that Word, our necks that must bow under the yoke."
Any woman who has 3 reasonably happy marriages involving service in very different environments is incredibly amazing.
Elisabeth's third marriage was not happy.
@@jeannet7443were any of her marriages happy?
The comment that really stuck with me from this interview was “There is a straight edge to her determination to follow Christ that I think is sometimes missing among many in our egocentric ego feeling culture.” I’m so thankful for EE. She kept my head on straight when I didn’t “feel” like God was delivering what He promised.
I needed that straight edge that was EE. Though she was dead, she saved me from “feelings” that were so against the Word of God. “Feelings” and offenses have
Overtaken this modern day.
EE ket my head on straight when I was reeling from a diagnosis that I knew was possibly going to take my life. We MUST submit to the mind of Christ and realize this: No matter the outcome of my life, He is God. He is sovereign. Like Job we must realize that a shallow relationship with God is only knowing God by the hearing of the ear. But through the suffering of Job, he said, “Now mine eye (seeth) Thee!” I’m getting so close to God that I’m now seeing Him and it’s no longer someone telling me what God (can) do… but I’m seeing the depth of the Creator, The Master, the one who causes me to lay my hand over my own mouth because I realize I am in no position to judge God.
What an encouragement! This is what strikes fear into me - the normalization of getting angry at God, or shaking our fists at God. We must never perceive Him as our enemy, for He is our only strength in times of trouble, persecution, and trials. I hope the Lord strengthens you greatly to trust Him; He is indeed sovereign!
Three very different marriages. One thing to be said about her views for submission: she stuck to them even when marriage was hard! Conviction, a rare find.
This was a fascinating interview! I grew up listening to Elizabeth Elliott and my children as well.
Ellen when you quote her I can "hear" her voice saying it. I look forward to reading these books.
Thank you Alissa! What a wonderful interview and subject matter! I am grateful for your ministry! May God continue to bless, guide and protect you and your family!🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻✝️
I first found Elisabeth Elliot when gifted her biography of Amy Carmichael - A Chance to Die. I was so encouraged by it that I actually wrote to Elisabeth and thanked her for writing it and she actually wrote me back! I have that little note tucked in the book now. I found her radio show Gateway to Joy somehow and listened as often as I could and subscribed to her newsletters (which are archived online if anyone wants to read them). This interview was a blessing and I've ordered Ellen's second book just now (already own the first one). I've also visited the Elisabeth Elliot exhibit at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C. - it was much smaller than I imagined, but worth the trip. Her seven-part video series on suffering (Suffering is Not for Nothing found here on RUclips) has been enormously helpful as I have navigated a very heartbreaking situation in my life and I highly recommend it to anyone going through deep, painful loss.
Thank you for that... I shall look you up.
Thank you for this. Elizabeth Elliot’s book A Chance To Die was life changing for me and has a place of honor in my personal library. I even bought a copy of it for our church library. I especially love the story of when Amy was riding in the horse and buggy with the “Dear Old Man” and they came upon a stone breaker. (page 51) The DOM stopped the buggy and gave Amy a word picture of salvation as they watched the stone breaker work. I’ve never forgotten it.
I met her once at a conference. She was so inspiring to listen to but when she was autographing a book she wasn't personable or engaging. Being an extreme introvert myself, I recognized that she was probably the same way so I understood her. It was an honor to meet her.
Elisabeth Elliot had/has a massive influence on my life. For over 4 decades she blessed me, encouraged me and corrected me. I see her as one of my spiritual mothers.
SAME
Here, here, well said!!!
I loved the discussion of God using suffering. This is rejected by so much of Christiandom today and yet, God uses it for our refining. Such good discussion!
Yes, for our refining, but also for our relationship with him. Our suffering can be reciprocal, a returning of love to God, who suffered for us. He gave us all, and we can give all in return, without reservation. That was a lot of “r”s…😊
I got to meet Elizabeth Elliott at Urbana 84 conference. I went to a workshop she held. I rode the elevator and walked to the conference with her. She was so gracious to me. She asked questions about my work in Scotland. I was very nearly awestruck spending time alone with her. It was like meeting a member of the Royal family.
Ms. Elliott is a mother in Christ to me, she will always have a place in my heart 💜
I was scared to watch this as I really dislike interviews seeming to slander the deceased, who obviously cannot defend themselves. However, this was helpful, respectful & hope filled. Thanks for the interview!
I dislike these videos that tear people apart, so was glad to see this one had virtue in it.
I probably will NOT watch any more of these.
Me too! Yet, I was so pleasantly surprised!🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I love Elisabeth Elliot !! I Listen to eveything she has said and hang on every word. She has helped me see so many things in my own life . I am forever thankful for her teachings and I wish to be more like her. I wish she were still here :((
Thanks so much for this interview! I have been a big admirer of EE for most of my Christian life, so I thought I knew a lot about her till I read Becoming Elisabeth Elliot. Ellen Vaughn did a magnificent job with a story that some people idolized but that truly was the story of an exceptional but imperfect woman who wanted to please the Lord with everything she had. I ended up treasuring Elisabeth’s story even more and having found a new favorite author in Ellen. ❤
I had heard her story as a young teenager but first saw her in person when she was the opening speaker at the Urbana 76 conference.She was VERY committed to self-discipline and I shall always remember her phrase "when that alarm clock goes off your feet need to hit the floor!" to which I didn't react well as I had had 2 hrs sleep in the last 36 hrs. She had just married a second time at that point and knew I'd take her message far better once I'd had more sleep. Great memories and much honor for her life of service. I'm glad I found this one tonight as I lost my wife of 37 years 18 months ago and like her first marriage, it was sudden. I managed the first 6 months amazingly well but have since struggled.
And that second spouse was the love of her life!
Still she was EE. Austere maybe.
I was widowed at 25yo in 1990 w/2 littles & an 8mo old who I then had to homeschool alone. I’m sry for ur recent loss.
i was also there, among 17,000 students. Meeting her and Luis Palau gave me role models. Her books helped so much
God Bless you as you struggle with such a loss.
I too was at Urbana 76 - and remember clearly her speaking about her trip to a sheep farm in Scotland. She watched as they dipped the sheep in some kind of bath for their own good - but they didn’t understand and hated every second of it…and how we must trust the shepherd of our souls. Still so clear in my heart almost 50 years later. Truth never loses its power over time.
God hear my prayers. The last three years I’ve been struggling. Through my struggles I found Jesus he has carried me this far. So even as I struggle to support my children and myself I trust in you Jesus. Being a single mom things can be hard raising them alone. My husband is with God I miss him dearly. Both of my children are autistic. I started homeschooling them last year and they are now thriving. I also suffered a heart attack two years ago so I’m getting healthier everyday. As I struggle to pay my rent each month and as I struggle to buy groceries. I know God will make a way. Where there seems to be no way. He works in ways we cannot see. I have faith! God has not forgotten me. Faith First!
Praying for you, sister. Remember the sparrows and the lillies of the field. He loves you so much more. He is faithful. He WILL provide! Wait in expectation, friend. 🌸
Why do you keep posting this comment on so many different channels?
@@cynthiafisher9907lol
Indeed she does
For yrs now
She must get cash sent
doesn't everyone agree that she was simply an introvert?? i don't like the terms describing her as cold or short or unfriendly. She was direct and to the point. To me, the overly emotional, touchy feely, type of person leaves me stone cold!
Exactly!
We are all so unique…
Having met her, and also agreeing that slavery to emotion is unhelpful, I have to say she presented as cold and stern and apparently displeased.
Introversion doesn’t make one cold or short. Even an extrovert can be deemed cold or short. Even an extreme introvert can be warm and loving in public or toward others in general, just highly uncomfortable or easily exhausted in social settings for prolonged periods of time. Introversion is a personality trait, not a behavior. Some people are just not very nice most of the time, and it’s not wrong to describe them honestly. Doesn’t make her views or writings or speeches any less full of biblical wisdom. It just humanizes her and reminds us that man is imperfect. It also doesn’t take away from the fact that she was indeed a complex person (like us all) and this lovely biographer made it her mission to show the other lesser known sides of her character.
Considering that she herself admitted that she comes off that way, I don't think there's a need to defend her. Just because we're all different doesn't mean we shouldn't work on ourselves or look within for any flaws we may have.
I have been listening to sermon after sermon of Elisabeth Elliot's over that past month. She was so radical for her day! And what she talked about then is so pertinent to the present day. I have all her books qued to read, starting with Through the Gates of Splendor. My husnand and I have been weaving parts of her seromns into our dauly devotions with our kids. I believe every Christian today should listen to her. Her testimony is incredible. Thank you for posting this!
Wonderful interview. Elisabeth Elliott spoke into my life through her books. I got to see her speak one Christmas season in the 90s.
Found Elizabeth during Covid and found her to have such a clear, simplistic. calming faith. She was certainly a blessing in her days on earth and still has impact for the kingdom ❤
I believe with all my heart that the Lord ALWAYS answers prayer , just not in the way WE want all the time. He will say yes, no and wait. He is ALWAYS good and ALWAYS the perfect father. He will give us what we need and our desires as long as our desires line up with His will.
Thank you Ladies
Thank you Alisa, what an amazing interview!
I found Elisabeth like 6 yrs ago and couldn’t stop listening to her I love her precious voice but God talk to me through her I have the first book, hope to get the second. I still listen her program here in RUclips. Thank you Alissa love your channel ♥️
I so enjoyed listening to this. Thank you both. Inspiring women.
I apologize Alisa, it wasn't until today that I discovered your channel! And, to hear this particular Podcast, it's absolutely precious! Thank you all! I also just recently discovered Elisabeth Elliott and GTJ Podcasts. What a blessing it has been! Blessings to all!🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I love No Graven Image...and I think reading it will give a significant answer to Alisa's question about how Elizabeth was a rebel in the church of the '60's because it questions some of the ways the church thought and operated, especially in mission settings...Judy Roth
Great interview thanks Alisa Childers for this interview ... God is good
I’m a bit skeptical of any author who wrote the Jesus Revolution. No I haven’t read it nor did I see the movie but I lived it and so many got a false sense of salvation and never really accepted Jesus as their savior. That said I loved Elisabeth Elliot and have several of her books and would listen to her on the radio so I’ll listen and hopefully won’t be disappointed. BTW it’s so easy to judge historical figures by today’s standards but Elisabeth lived in a very different time where people trusted what God’s word said even when uncomfortable.
Jesus was the greatest preacher ever,and most of His followers abandoned Him. I guess I'm saying ,being cautious is fine but cynical is not healthy for us. Because I am sure there were plenty in the jesus movement who were born of God.
I agree.👍🏻
@@matthewashman1406I lived it too and know where she's coming from.
I'm not seeing cynicism in her comment - I'm seeing along with her what I believe to be another aspect of the Jesus movement of the 1970's... which was often the easypeasy 'salvation'. There was muuch misinformation going around back then. I can attest to that as I was one of those people who thought they were saved up until a few years ago when I stumbled on some excellent bible-based preachers on YT - where I was introduced to the entire Bible and true salvation, not just the cumbayah feel good stuff. I still break out into a sweat when I look back to 10 or 15 years ago and wonder if I actually was really truly saved. Praise The Lord.
@carolyndavis6657 I lived the Jesus movement as well and I know many were saved in our church and also filled with the Holy Ghost. Many also abandoned their faith, which is very sad.
Elisabeth Eliot’s life, her passion for missions and her clear teaching of God’s word impacted my walk with Christ greatly. She will always be a “she-roe” to me… no self-promotion, no baby food- she lived & taught the meat of the Bible. What an example for us!
I am so excited to get the second book. EE’s life was foundational in my early Christian walk and has come to affect me again in recent months- 37 years later.
Alisa did a FABULOUS interview. Thank you!!
Thank you for this, Alisa and Ellen. Sounds like a good book to slip in besides Dostoyevsky this winter.😅
We needed her influence and those more like-minded, not disrespecting those who were, in the women's confereces that have circulated since the 80s.
At 55, I realize I am now one of the "older women" who are supposed to be ready to lead the younger women in contentment and service to the Lord, their families, and where else He calls. I have been asking him to grow me up in the word and give me a realistic and correct view of Him, scripture, myself, and others, and that I would become a better listener with understanding in all regards.
I grew up hearing about the Elliots and other missionaries killed in Equador in my birth year.
Later I listened to her radio program during the 90s when I was raising my children.
I applauded this interview! Wonderful content!
I adore Elisabeth Elliot! The Elisabeth Elliot Podcast (and her books, of course) is such a gift to this younger generation. She is a breath of fresh air and her wisdom is timeless 💜 The Trailblazer book (Do the Next Thing) about her life will be a must-read for my tween girls!
She's one I got to meet, before we all had cameras in our pockets. She felt different in person than in her writings, possibly overwhelmed by "You're my hero!" from tons of people.
@@amylynnhunt55which seems like a right response for a true humble believer. I’m sure that was so overwhelming to navigate.
This video was such a blessing. I am a full time Christian missionary in South Africa for 10 years now. I’m praying for a spiritual mother 🙏🏻❤️
Excellent interview. Thank you both so much 🙏🏽
Alisa, Ellen, thank you for a beautiful interview. Can’t wait to read the books. I still enjoy Elisabeth’s podcasts.
Definitely getting that book for me and my 4 girls. Thank you for the thought provoking interview ladies!
Corrie Ten Boom, Elisabeth, Nancy Pearcey, and my grandmother…women of the 20th century which have impacted my faith the most. Thankful for this interview…thank you!
“It’s not about being my best self now, but ‘Lord, how do I follow You? What have you said about that?’” 🔥
Amy Carmichael?
@@leenieledejo6849 Lillias Trotter as well!
What a delightful woman Ellen is. I will seek out her writings. I felt like I was in the living room listening to a close friend. Love how carefully she undertook her mission and with high integrity.
A lovely woman of God.
My favorite authors and teachers are the people who will ask the questions, who will deconstruct their extra-Christian beliefs to see what God wants from us in our relationship with Him.
Great interview!! Really enjoyed learning all she did to gather information for the biographies. I look forward to reading the 2nd book! :)
Loved the interview. Got the first book and devoured it in 2 days. Now i need the 2nd book. I heard EE speak at Urbana conference late 70s. She seemed very austere, "tough". Loved her writings on singleness as a single girl in the 90s.
Given what she endured, wouldn’t u be also?
Thank you for this vibrant view of Elizabeth Elliott. Her rebelliousness against church culture is most interesting.
"Burn my journals before I die." Wise. I recently destroyed all my journals spanning 45 years.
Being real n seeing real life consequences n rewards is way too important to me, to burn my life writings
I’m already humbled lol
Someone may as well learn from me
Journaling for me had to be destroyed as it involved too many temporary negatives about people I loved but was struggling with at them time. Having someone read them after I’m gone and maybe not seeing the end of the story, if I hadn’t written it, would be devastating to them. No, it had to go. Thank God for his grace in our messed up lives!!! Today I am proactive in telling everyone I love how much I DO love and appreciate them in my life. That’s what I want to leave them with.
When I think of Elisabeth Elliot, I think who of us has gone thru what she did and walked in her moccasins--she is one of fave heroes in a post-modern world.
Our God entered into suffering, so powerful
This was a beautiful podcast and Alisa, you are a good interviewer!
Wonderful interview. Will purchase her books.
Both of you did wonderful with the interview.
My sister got me the book The Mark of a Man by Elisabeth Elliott back when I first got married over 30 years ago. It made a strong impact on me.
I’ve given it as wedding present
I don’t give the traditional Bible to couples.
I give solid books.
Elisabeth Elliot is one of my favorites❤
Two wonderful women speaking on one of my favoritel women! Thank you both so much cannot wait to get into volume 1 and 2
Seen this with Joni Eareckson Tada what a dear and compassionate woman in Christ Jesus‼️
🙏📖🕯️🩸✝️🩸🕯️📖🙏
Great discussion, Alisa, and very inspiring. Wish she hadn’t skirted your question about E.E.’s views on submission. Guess I’ll have to read the books!
Thank you for the interview, Alisa. I was struck that your lens of evangelicalism is more relatable and maybe more orthodox than the biographer? She had me puzzled-maybe so I will buy her book 😊.
Love Elizabeth. Loved the book “No Graven Image”. Loved all her books!
Interestingly, dementia obviously does not typically appear overnight, meaning it's development can be slowly impacting and encroaching for years before people begin to recognize "dementia symptoms"...as with people woth traumatic brain injuries, life is colored by these things.
As Christ followers, each unique and gifted in different ways, there are a million different types of people, some more relatable than others, all imperfect to various degrees. Thank you Lord for Elizabeth's amazing life, and the ways he used her!!!
In one of her Q&As a woman asked about staying in an abusive relationship. EE told her, with NO emotion or hesitation, something along the lines of God has you there for a reason... wow. I wrote that just before you mentioned her 3rd marriage.
Alisa’s grandparents were truly blessed
Why couldn’t Ellen share what Elizabeth’s view on submission? I was glad Alisa asked it after Ellen said she had different views, but we got no answer. Why? To sell a book?
I think if you read the second book you will have a clearer answer-you’ll get it, I promise.
I believe she probably had a biblical view on submission which is what all believers should have.
I recently finished the book and it seems Elisabeth believed that in order to submit to her husband and honor God, she needed to stay in a verbally/emotionally abusive marriage. Even when friends and family tried to help her leave, she insisted on going back because Lars "was her [biblical] head". Biblically, wives *are* instructed to submit to their husbands, but I don't believe this includes abusive situations, where it is entirely appropriate to seek help from pastors, godly friends, and if needed, local authorities.
@@laurenrobertson8829 How sad that she found herself in this situation.
Because it opens up a can of worms that has to be an entire video interview on its own. Try your best not to assume the worst about people’s intentions. Her divulging it would simply lead to way to many questions and needs discussion time that is not available, especially when she’s trying to be sensitive to Elizabeth’s legacy and family. Lauren Robertson’s comment above gives you a brief overview.
Showed up on my RUclips thread. What a wonderful interview!
No graven image is a must read for every believer in ministry! It ends in a very unexpected way and will convict you…
These ideas definitely impacted my Christian walk in the ‘90s. I had no idea Gothard wasn’t married 😮
Thank You! - Very Interesting!
I loved the way that Elisabeth was given the gift of Mercy to go and live amongst the people who murdered her husband - such grace from Him.
Especially in the west so many have turned from a real intimacy with Him and His amazing grace - and have sold out to spin doctors with their false gospel of ‘earning’ our salvation - which is an utter tragedy.
I use to listen to Elizabeth Elliot on Radio ABC NY back in 1997. ❤
Interesting interview thank you. I did feel the author could’ve given a little more tidbits on what’s in her book, but didn’t so that you would buy it.
My step daughter lives as a missionary In the Amazons by the Amazon river in Brazil
I'm sure I would disagree with Elisabeth Elliot on any number of issues. However, I had one experience with her back in 1992. I was going through some financial difficulties that year, and God used three occasions that summer to speak the words of Matthew 6 (“Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you shall eat or what you shall drink, nor about your body, what you shall put on") to me. The first came from my district elder in my home church. The third was in the lectionary reading at a Greek Orthodox church with paternal relatives. The second was from Elliott, who was speaking at my sister's church in Massachusetts. Having this passage spoken to me on three back-to-back occasions persuaded me that God was behind this.
On that second occasion, my sister and I sang a metrical version of the Christ hymn from Colossians 1:15-20 which I had written some years before. We sang it to a tune by the English Renaissance composer Orlando Gibbons, and I accompanied on guitar. Afterwards, Elliot thanked us and expressed relief that I had not been "banging away" on the guitar like some others she had heard. I chuckled to myself at this.
I really enjoyed this interview. I've not read the biography, but I appreciate the author's care (and prayer) in putting it together.
LOL
Thanks for sharing that! Elisabeth in true form!
Elisabeth Elliot was on the founding board of directors for the Society of Anglican Missionaries and Senders (SAMS, formerly South American Mission Society, a branch of Britain's Christion Missionary Society.)
Disappointed the second book had no pictures in it. What happened there. Loved all the pictures in the first book.
After this interview, I am reading Being Elisabeth Elliot…a most thought-provoking good read. I read No Graven Image concurrently. I would love for you to have a follow up interview with Ellen Vaugh after you read Being Elisabeth Elliot. I think that would be most interesting and enlightening.
Here life in the jungel helped me want to be as FAITHFUL serving the Lord as she was learning to laugh at yourself
Loved Ellen's first book...cant wait to read the 2nd! Great interview!!
I remember seeing her at Bermuda’s Christian guesthouse, Willowbank, visiting with her 2nd husband
Wonderful interview!
Excited to see this interview. I've just started listening the first volume and am loving the story. Very well told. Since I'm still in the book I'll have to finish listening later though. 😊
I loved this conversation - reasoned, honest thought. One idea concerning natural "disasters". Many natural disasters are necessary or life would cease to exist. For example: plate tectonics (volcanoes, earthquakes which form the continents, global thermostat ), hurricanes (dissipates pent up energy), floods (provides for fertile, life-giving soil), carnivores (starvation because of over-population, physical laws like gravity (no earth orbit, no ocean tides) etc. just to name a few Then there are man-made disasters that can stem from accidents, negligence, greed, cruelty etc. As to why God set up a world this way, it would be an interesting discussion.
He didn’t set up catastrophism
He set up Paradise
We chose to toss it away
a wonderful interview.
I love how Ellen navigated the questions about Elizabeth’s personal views and her own views about gender roles/feminism/gender roles. Not necessary for an interview about a book and Ellen is already giving such wonderful content for the interview. I think Alisa is really blessed to be able to interview authors like this and I hope she recognized where she went off task.
Off task?
I remember reading that " No graven Images" book !
This was such a great interview.
Now I remember you, Ellen Vaughn, from Charles Colsons book.
I loved her books, then I met her at her book signing.
She was rude and unkind ;I had no idea that was typical behavior for her. There's no excuse for a Christian to have that reputation.
She wasnt personable vs ur assessment of rude
She was an introvert tho
@@YeshuaKingMessiah her "assessment" is her experience. She was treated rudely. I agree with her. A true Christian doesn't treat others like that.
Personally, I would not want to read her books after being treated that way. I went to a book signing for a different author, the only one I've ever been to. Some years later, met the author again and she was rude. I've had no desire to read the book since. I have really no desire to read about Elizabeth Elliott. This video popped up randomly. I can relate to your experience.
@@VM-123 and her impression/assessment could be wrong and EE just wasn’t a personable author
Many aren’t
There is a difference btwn rude and not personable tho, one is ok and the other not
Thank you so much for this Interview. I have always loved Elisabeth since I started reading her books and listening to Gateway to Joy. Where can i find her novel 'no graven image'?
I very much enjoyed this interview which portrayed Elizabeth Elliott in such a positive yet real light. She was indeed a powerful force for women in Christianity. Strength under control (meekness) and a commitment that was unwavering no matter how God’s will for her played out.
I do have one criticism however. Your title gives the impression that something of the negative was going to be revealed which is unfortunate. I suppose this was assumed on my part since so many giants in the faith have fallen in recent years.
Go ahead and read both books. She didn’t fall away from God.
I was absolutely entranced by the biography “Becoming Elisabeth Elliott” and looked forward to reading “Being Elisabeth Elliott”. I read the second book and was very saddened by a lot of her story. It’s still worth reading the second book after the first, I think one encouraging thing was realizing that she, and her life was not perfect but she always leaned hard into God and wanted to do His will. It may be even more valuable to realize as we listen to her talks that are so generously shared with us from the Elisabeth Elliott Foundation the crucible she was in while learning these lessons.
Thank you for this comment, I wholeheartedly agree. She lived her message of suffering well for Christ sake.
Why was she so suffering? Her husbands cancer?
After reading "Being EE" I am convinced that much of what was put forth in the EE Newsletters in the 1990s was a fiction. Such a rosy view of "life at the Cove" gave the impression of a happy marriage, instead of "the biggest mistake of my life." So the Grens had feet of clay like the rest of us. Why the elaborate charade? The public persona of Elisabeth Elliot and her charming Norwegian husband, and the reality of the unhappily married Mrs. Gren (who in my opinion became a victim of elder abuse) could not have been more different. I feel sad, frustrated, and shocked by the duplicity of everyone who knew. I am okay with my idols being broken, that is God's mercy in disguise. But yikes. What a wrecking ball the truth can be. (Thank you to Ellen Vaughn. You swung the wrecking ball with grace.)
I hear you. I was absolutely stunned and I never even read that newsletter you refer to. It has been disillusionment but then illusions aren't real, they are the very thing EE hated too. I bawled my eyes out when I thought about EE being trapped in such a marriage.
Abominable might be Elizabeth’s Word for this day and age!
Sounds intriguing
The Graven Image is one of my favorite books.
I am sad to hear this as presented by Ellen; my gut was churning as I watched Ellen brag about her finings about EE. I saw this review and it nailed what I was thinking while watching/listening to Ellen."This writer lost interest in her subject. She inserted her own story at that juncture which I never would have imagined a biographer would do. Get your own book. We all have loved and lost, many times over. Did she think she should have been the exception? I wanted to hear about Elisabeth Elliot, not her. The last 38 years of EE’s life became just too much trouble to deal with. When she tried in her own words to wax lyrical at the end of the book, she revealed herself far from being in the same league as her subject. If there was any doubt, she crowned her achievement by using the expression “doing life with you” - the most hackneyed and cringe-worthy remark in current usage. Valerie Shepard chose unwisely for her mother’s official biographer, but mercifully Val chose very, very wisely in the rest of her life. She is one of her mother’s greatest legacies."
You need to read the books.
I just bought her book!!
I ordered this book❤ 😢
This was SUCH an interesting listen - thank you so much for having Ellen on! I'm totally intrigued and can't wait to read Being Elisabeth!