Nice video! Number 1, thank you for encouraging drivers to learn their cars' limit at a safe environment. Open empty space parking lots are always my go to, if i want to hone my skill a little bit. Number 2, I want to point out that different tires will require different driving styles for tarmac racing. Super 200tw vs Summer 300tw will require us to drive the car very differently. This is all because of the tire lateral load force vs slip angle graph. Super 200tw tires will require the driver to have a really clean driving style because their lateral grip peaks out relatively early in the tires' slip angle (around 8° - 12°). Any big slides will result in a dramatic lateral grip drop-off. However, 300tw tires will be very different. They have a lower lateral load force limit, and they arrive that limit slower and later than 200tw. Their limit ranges from 12° to 20° of slip angle. This is a huge window of max limit (eventhough they are lower), but at this window the driver can usually feel the car sliding and tires making noise. So why did i mention all of that? For example, let's set an arbitrary corner that will require a set of A052 to clear with a 45mph vmin and a set of Extreme Contact Sport 02 to clear with a 42mph vmin. (Car and tire width are identical). A052 will clear that corner in a smooth and control driving style; the car will have a minor slip, but the balance of the car is pleased to eyes of the spectators. Where, ECS 02 will clears that corner in a much buckwild fashion. You'll see the car 4 wheels sliding into the apex, and you will see the car doing many adjustments at corner exit. But the speed difference is only 3 mph against A052. Hopefully this makes sense.
Great discussion. I'm in the same boat, trying to figure out what project I should get done before I leave for bootcamp/Mk school. Should I keep full speed on my k20 CRX, which is a long way away, should I set up the wrx for rallycross, and get an event in before I leave, do some maintenance on the miata and get in a drifting event, or just stick with autocross for now and slap a supercharger the Miata so I have something fun to play with when I get back. Too many choices. Anyways, looking forward to your videos next year!
Thanks for watching! It definitely sounds like you have a few projects in the works. If time is short, I'd prioritize fun I think. Get that in before bootcamp. Hope that helps and have a great holiday! Stay Tuned!
Mike from MotoIQ talks about how the tires become molten and are way faster. But subarus aren't drifting except brzs so I would brake late, ride out turn until you can smash the throttle at the apex.
Sliding is loosing traction therefore slower most of the time sliding can be faster on certain corners but drifting to me is nice and controlled slides. That are very consistent. Not every slide is a drift to me.
how are you guys called "flatiron tuning" and say subarus r front wheel drive cars . . . the engineers purposely make their pedestrian cars front bias for safety. all wrxs are at the very least 50/50 front/rear torque splits without any mechanisms to disconnect the front from the rear.
Really. Dude do you know the actual Subaru system works… if your cvt trans slips a belt it’s front wheel drive. If you have an open rear diff it’s basically a 2 wheel drive car using 1 front and 1 rear tire, if I was you I’d go back and see all their videos instead of throwing out 1 comment that’s got no credible support.
@HeidiFegles then you can argue a fwd car with an open diff is a 1wheel drive car. wheel slip is a continul process and how a car handles the transfer of power to the wheels define a an awd, fwd, and 4x4.
@ sounds about right honestly and this is stock power train stuff obviously, we have fixes for all this stuff and in my car with suretrac lsd I n the rear when I’m on slick surface it spins 3 wheels. Both in the back and one up front. And will go between the front tires so actually subarus are 3 wheel drive, but it allows you to steer the car. All 4 wheels locked up you don’t really steer the car since it pushes the front end bad.
These videos are becoming some of my favorites to watch on here, great stuff fellas!! 💙💙💛💛
Thanks very much!
Stay Tuned!
Nice video! Number 1, thank you for encouraging drivers to learn their cars' limit at a safe environment. Open empty space parking lots are always my go to, if i want to hone my skill a little bit.
Number 2, I want to point out that different tires will require different driving styles for tarmac racing. Super 200tw vs Summer 300tw will require us to drive the car very differently. This is all because of the tire lateral load force vs slip angle graph.
Super 200tw tires will require the driver to have a really clean driving style because their lateral grip peaks out relatively early in the tires' slip angle (around 8° - 12°). Any big slides will result in a dramatic lateral grip drop-off.
However, 300tw tires will be very different. They have a lower lateral load force limit, and they arrive that limit slower and later than 200tw. Their limit ranges from 12° to 20° of slip angle. This is a huge window of max limit (eventhough they are lower), but at this window the driver can usually feel the car sliding and tires making noise.
So why did i mention all of that? For example, let's set an arbitrary corner that will require a set of A052 to clear with a 45mph vmin and a set of Extreme Contact Sport 02 to clear with a 42mph vmin. (Car and tire width are identical).
A052 will clear that corner in a smooth and control driving style; the car will have a minor slip, but the balance of the car is pleased to eyes of the spectators.
Where, ECS 02 will clears that corner in a much buckwild fashion. You'll see the car 4 wheels sliding into the apex, and you will see the car doing many adjustments at corner exit. But the speed difference is only 3 mph against A052.
Hopefully this makes sense.
Outside of the US, the SVX with VTD is rear-biased similar to WRX STI.
Great discussion. I'm in the same boat, trying to figure out what project I should get done before I leave for bootcamp/Mk school. Should I keep full speed on my k20 CRX, which is a long way away, should I set up the wrx for rallycross, and get an event in before I leave, do some maintenance on the miata and get in a drifting event, or just stick with autocross for now and slap a supercharger the Miata so I have something fun to play with when I get back. Too many choices. Anyways, looking forward to your videos next year!
Thanks for watching! It definitely sounds like you have a few projects in the works. If time is short, I'd prioritize fun I think. Get that in before bootcamp.
Hope that helps and have a great holiday!
Stay Tuned!
This is starting rough. Might have bit off more than you can wing with this one 😂
Mike from MotoIQ talks about how the tires become molten and are way faster. But subarus aren't drifting except brzs so I would brake late, ride out turn until you can smash the throttle at the apex.
Sliding is loosing traction therefore slower most of the time sliding can be faster on certain corners but drifting to me is nice and controlled slides. That are very consistent. Not every slide is a drift to me.
how are you guys called "flatiron tuning" and say subarus r front wheel drive cars . . . the engineers purposely make their pedestrian cars front bias for safety. all wrxs are at the very least 50/50 front/rear torque splits without any mechanisms to disconnect the front from the rear.
Really. Dude do you know the actual Subaru system works… if your cvt trans slips a belt it’s front wheel drive. If you have an open rear diff it’s basically a 2 wheel drive car using 1 front and 1 rear tire, if I was you I’d go back and see all their videos instead of throwing out 1 comment that’s got no credible support.
@HeidiFegles then you can argue a fwd car with an open diff is a 1wheel drive car. wheel slip is a continul process and how a car handles the transfer of power to the wheels define a an awd, fwd, and 4x4.
@ sounds about right honestly and this is stock power train stuff obviously, we have fixes for all this stuff and in my car with suretrac lsd I n the rear when I’m on slick surface it spins 3 wheels. Both in the back and one up front. And will go between the front tires so actually subarus are 3 wheel drive, but it allows you to steer the car. All 4 wheels locked up you don’t really steer the car since it pushes the front end bad.