This makes the most sense. Denying landing rights And forcing it to fly across the Caspian sea would definitely.. It definitely protects the Russians against their crimes.
er no, for starters the aircraft could be salvaged/recovered and secondly you assume the Russians knew the aircraft would never make it when clearly it did. Your critical thinking skills are poor and your gullibility high.
The captain of the plane was my uncle FREIND from academia university The other guys were young, he didn't know them. We believe they knew it was over, and they tried to do the best they could 40% survive, that's a miracle R.I.P. our BROTHER
The Amazing flight crew managed to save many lives in this horrendous Russian Air Defense blunder. RIP flight crew. My deepest condolences to the families of all who perished.
No, Ukraine shot down MH17. Plenty of evidence for it, such as the warhead used was in service with Ukrainian army but not in the Russian army as they replaced it years before.
The orc military has downed so many of their own military aircraft, what is a civilian airline to them. I guarantee ruZZia will never apologize for this act of terror. Why would anyone get on a plane over any of those conflict areas?????
No es raro este grave incidente. Los pro rusos en Ucrania derribaron un avion de País Bajos. Son asesinos y en algún momento lo pagarán . Mis condolencias al pueblo Azerí y las familias q perdieron la vida.
It is not uncommon, what the Russians should have done was closed down the airspace and the plane returned to where it came from, if there is a conflict you don’t allow civilian aircraft’s near the zone, this is total incompetence
Flying on a Ruzzian plane is like driving a Lada on a F1 racetrack after a storm, you are going to crash 100%, and if you manage to survive your own team is gonna sabotage and sacrifice your life just to play the victimhood card.
Embraer es un avión de Brasil y está respaldada por Boing. Esta fábrica es seria y de buena tecnología. Esta fue derribada. En la cola del avión se ve agujeros q fie hecho por metralla de un misil o defensa aerea. Estos asesinos rusos no pueden seguir asesinado ahora civiles.
According to Russia is was another smoking accident, these guys really need to quit as all these refineries, boats and now planes must be costing a fortune.
The damage to the plane is not consistent with the pantzir s system. Pantzir s fires a 30 mm cannon, that's going to ensure a much larger gaping hole than the shrapnel marks we see on the fuselage
"...The flight was diverted from Chechnya airport and was also denied landing permission in Makhachkala and Mineralnye Vody cities. Reminding that the plane was diverted to Kazakhstan’s Aktau city, Caliber stressed: “ It can be assumed that recommendation was given with one goal: to have the aircraft crash into the Caspian Sea, where all witnesses would perish and the aircraft would sink." Wow! If true, what is the difference between Israeli maniacs and...?
It can be easily verified that there was indeed fog/mist conditions at Grozny, Makhachkala, and Mineralnye Vody. Mineralnye Vody had a sub-500-ft cloud ceiling. These are not conditions you can land in without specialized electronic aids, which I don't think even *exist* at these airstrips, and which would have been turned off due to jamming and emissions-control procedures being used at the time to defeat a Ukrainian drone and cruise missile attack ongoing that day.
looking at the metal bent OUT like that means either this was a shoot through and came out or the force came from inside. The metel would be bent inward not outward. Like I said unless this was a shoot through one side then out another.
The Pantsir uses a continuous expanding rod warhead. The damage is absolutely not consistent with a continuous expanding rod warhead; Pantsir would leave a straight linear damage track, and the damage would be either a long cut (if it detonated inside optimal distance), or a linear series of long, rod-shaped holes (if it detonated outside optimal distance), but certainly *not* a bunch of irregularly shaped holes as are observed on the aircraft. This was a blast-fragmentation warhead, not a continuous expanding rod warhead. Could be SA-11 or SA-10/20/21 (though unlikely, as those have very large warheads and would have likely outright destroyed the aircraft on detonation), but almost certainly not Pantsir.
nonsense, pantsir has a maximum range of 70 km, and the plane was shot down more than 150 km from the coast,no other system has a greater range, except for the s-300, but won't shoot drones with it and I doubt they have it there
No, Einstein, the plane was hit within Russian air space when in approach to Grozny. After the hit, the pilots managed to fly the crippled jet over the Caspian Sea to an emergency alternate airport in Kazakhstan without hydraulics and only with the engine differential thrust to try to steer the aircraft and maintaining it aloft until they could not do it anymore and crashed.
O Putim controla os Russos como marionetes, deixem a arrogância de lado e acabem com essa guerra antes que o mundo caia em cima de vocês seus covardes!
100%. It was Shot Down.
'Russia should issue an apology to the Azerbaijani people'...lol. RIP the pilots, they tried very hard.
I doubt they will assume responsibility. It means they have to name those who commited it, etc. etc.
@@tamasgyorffy1year it is a regular tactic of Russia’s regime-Putins cabinets
They won't assume any responsibility.
They are looking who to bribe and who to blame
És szerintetek az elég 38 emberért ami átrepül fölötök azt mindent lelönek . milyen békésemberek gondolkodjon már a világ
You meant to say to the Whole World!
It’s not crashed, it was shot down.
This makes the most sense. Denying landing rights And forcing it to fly across the Caspian sea would definitely.. It definitely protects the Russians against their crimes.
No, Putin urged pilots to go and land on caspian sea! So nobody will survive!!!!! It is a crime!
er no, for starters the aircraft could be salvaged/recovered and secondly you assume the Russians knew the aircraft would never make it when clearly it did. Your critical thinking skills are poor and your gullibility high.
Why is Russia continued to just shoot innocent passenger Airliner and get away with it? This is about the 3rd such incident
The captain of the plane was my uncle FREIND from academia university
The other guys were young, he didn't know them.
We believe they knew it was over, and they tried to do the best they could
40% survive, that's a miracle
R.I.P. our BROTHER
Russia complete a full investigation? You’re having a laugh!
Dimitri peskov 🤣🤣
We don't have a clue we must expect the results of the anchetei
@@grigoregiorgian6217 se spune, "'investigation'"
Pretty stupid to have commercial flights over a country at war, especially ratssia, given their history of incompetence.
The Amazing flight crew managed to save many lives in this horrendous Russian Air Defense blunder. RIP flight crew. My deepest condolences to the families of all who perished.
Putin's BUK shot down Azerbaijani plane & Malaysia Airlines Flight 17
I think M17 was NATO fighter ops.
No, Ukraine shot down MH17. Plenty of evidence for it, such as the warhead used was in service with Ukrainian army but not in the Russian army as they replaced it years before.
Azerbaijani plane was shot by ruzzia: With "Pantsir-S"
Why aren't you at the front Ukrop? Hiding in Europe? Don't want to protect your beloved Ukraine, Zelensky, Budanov etc.
No one needs Russia's apology at this point
... after all, the Russians now know that they can at least fight passenger planes with their air defenses...
No surprise here...(Russia)... did that in Crimea a few years ago.
No that was Ukraine, in 2001. They shot down a Russian airliner.
How many civilian airliners have Russia shot down now?
The orc military has downed so many of their own military aircraft, what is a civilian airline to them. I guarantee ruZZia will never apologize for this act of terror. Why would anyone get on a plane over any of those conflict areas?????
An extremely aggressive action. I would also not fly any airline flying anywhere near any war zone.
the 2nd passenger plane shot down by the poorly trained Russian military. Horrific to think that people probably burned to death in the crash.
No es raro este grave incidente. Los pro rusos en Ucrania derribaron un avion de País Bajos. Son asesinos y en algún momento lo pagarán . Mis condolencias al pueblo Azerí y las familias q
perdieron la vida.
It okay it didnt happen. It was a bat strike, Russia does not use ground to air missiles to shoot down civilian planes. WELL THATS WHAT THEY WILL SAY
Absolute madness if it is true they shot this down …………! Totally inept ! 😢😢😢
It is not uncommon, what the Russians should have done was closed down the airspace and the plane returned to where it came from, if there is a conflict you don’t allow civilian aircraft’s near the zone, this is total incompetence
They admitted to having downed the plane themselves. They told the truth! Umbelievable!
Flying on a Ruzzian plane is like driving a Lada on a F1 racetrack after a storm, you are going to crash 100%, and if you manage to survive your own team is gonna sabotage and sacrifice your life just to play the victimhood card.
Embraer es un avión de Brasil y está respaldada por Boing. Esta fábrica es seria y de buena tecnología. Esta fue derribada. En la cola del avión se ve agujeros q fie hecho por metralla de un misil o defensa aerea. Estos asesinos rusos no pueden seguir asesinado ahora civiles.
According to Russia is was another smoking accident, these guys really need to quit as all these refineries, boats and now planes must be costing a fortune.
The damage to the plane is not consistent with the pantzir s system. Pantzir s fires a 30 mm cannon, that's going to ensure a much larger gaping hole than the shrapnel marks we see on the fuselage
"...The flight was diverted from Chechnya airport and was also denied landing permission in Makhachkala and Mineralnye Vody cities. Reminding that the plane was diverted to Kazakhstan’s Aktau city, Caliber stressed: “ It can be assumed that recommendation was given with one goal: to have the aircraft crash into the Caspian Sea, where all witnesses would perish and the aircraft would sink." Wow! If true, what is the difference between Israeli maniacs and...?
It can be easily verified that there was indeed fog/mist conditions at Grozny, Makhachkala, and Mineralnye Vody. Mineralnye Vody had a sub-500-ft cloud ceiling. These are not conditions you can land in without specialized electronic aids, which I don't think even *exist* at these airstrips, and which would have been turned off due to jamming and emissions-control procedures being used at the time to defeat a Ukrainian drone and cruise missile attack ongoing that day.
This was a no fly zone. Humanity is leaving peoples lives
Now we all know that an Embraer cannot take the shots coming from a Pantsir. Mankind making baby steps.
目には目を! 歯には歯を!
What a Christmas 2024! The black year in the history for sooooo many reasons!
Nonsense, the plane was shut down by kids playing with stringshot
Don' t try to speak english..
Absolutely shokking 😢😢😢
It's fake news with ai generated voice, stop watching shit like this
all those holes from weapon fire. What is the UN going to do about this lost of life.
Why didn't they rather ditch it in the sea?
I would assume there was a person on board that was on Putin's hit list.
Yea right, how come some ignorant internet people know all the facts?
The reporter said it was mistake cause there are too many Ukrainian drones hence its no fly zone....god bless everyone they are in heaven 🙏
👏👏👏👏👏👌
O E-190 suportou até o ultimo instante ás graves avarias.
do you wonder who was on board
Do you think putin cares?
🇦🇿🙏🏻😓
Om goal
looking at the metal bent OUT like that means either this was a shoot through and came out or the force came from inside. The metel would be bent inward not outward. Like I said unless this was a shoot through one side then out another.
metal is bent from from the outside to the inside and holes on tail area are made from behind of the plane
Russian poor military training, coordination and handling.... They already shot their own fighter planes and helicopters....
According to, presumably, reportedly etc, means nothing.
Cope harder
Its fake news with ai generated voice, people are stupid if they believing in this shit
Not the first time this has happened and no doubt won't be the last and the world looks on and does nothing about these actions.
The plane was shot down by flying birds. stop blaming ruzzia .
C'erano anche un paio di farfalle.
😂
The Pantsir uses a continuous expanding rod warhead. The damage is absolutely not consistent with a continuous expanding rod warhead; Pantsir would leave a straight linear damage track, and the damage would be either a long cut (if it detonated inside optimal distance), or a linear series of long, rod-shaped holes (if it detonated outside optimal distance), but certainly *not* a bunch of irregularly shaped holes as are observed on the aircraft.
This was a blast-fragmentation warhead, not a continuous expanding rod warhead. Could be SA-11 or SA-10/20/21 (though unlikely, as those have very large warheads and would have likely outright destroyed the aircraft on detonation), but almost certainly not Pantsir.
My theory was, he trying to make a lot out of Russian airspace to preserve evidence.
I think the conclusion of the shooting was drawn too fast
What will Biden and the U.N. say and do?
😂😂😂😂😂
😢no
If u want to blame someone blame zelensky for sending off drones where commercial planes travel.
u are trying soo hard but you make zero sense
nonsense, pantsir has a maximum range of 70 km, and the plane was shot down more than 150 km from the coast,no other system has a greater range, except for the s-300, but
won't shoot drones with it and I doubt they have it there
No, Einstein, the plane was hit within Russian air space when in approach to Grozny. After the hit, the pilots managed to fly the crippled jet over the Caspian Sea to an emergency alternate airport in Kazakhstan without hydraulics and only with the engine differential thrust to try to steer the aircraft and maintaining it aloft until they could not do it anymore and crashed.
So, what do you think now people of Azerbaijan, do you still loyal to Russia?
😂😂😂
Νοτ true, birds hit the plane at 20.000 feet
Must have been flying so fast they went through the side of the plane leaving a pattern identical to the marks air defence leave.
Birds used missiles and AK 47
Very high-altitude flying superbirds with beaks that make shrapnel mark.
woodpeckers
You won't get any potatoes for that one Ivan 😂😅
Plane was shot down yes. But was an accident. If u want to blame someone blame zelensky for sending off drones where commercial planes travel.
Blame Putin, he started the war.
Das können nur menschen glauben die nur einen kanAl schauen können.
Oh it was shot down alright, but not by Russia
Exactly right
Bullshit!
Holy shit….talk about fake news!
Russia shoots down a plane going to Russia? Not likly.
Ruzzia shots down its oun planes IN ruuzzia . ask the Wagner leader about that.
Likely when there are so many rich people who are anti putin. There is no escaping anyone who criticis him.
It was more than likely an American team hoping to turn the war against Russia, they did the same with the Malaysian flight.
What utter drivel.
What absolute embarrassing clown 😂
Russian bot.
ruZZian bot detected
😆 explain why that's "more than likely", then explain how it's possible.
So it's Ukraine fault .
sorry comrade, but azerbaidzan demands appology from ruzzia
😆 how?
O Putim controla os Russos como marionetes, deixem a arrogância de lado e acabem com essa guerra antes que o mundo caia em cima de vocês seus covardes!
You are liars ! Blatant lies is what you are spewing. How disgusting !
and what is "your" truth?
It's Russia that's disgusting.
Cry more, comrade.
@@pandaDotDragonits fake news with ai generated voice
truth hurts
Fake news 🤬💩💩
Ball shit
Tell us the truth Vlad.
What part was "fake"?
😢no