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In my experience people who blame healers 1. have skill issues or make poor decisions 2. have unrealistic expectations of what a healer can do 3. don't like that particular healer cuz they aren't Bennet.
They should learn how to dodge, healers also have cooldown plus some of them like Diona or Bennett only heal with burst, also u need a very well built shilder if u dont wanna dodge
Burning reaction is quite deadly in co-op lmao probably on par with overloaded the dehya user should've expected what's coming 😭 either you know when to stop applying pyro or else
I mean, if you decide to play a tank character who is pyro and will cause overloads in this fight and is at 50% hp at the start, I'm inclined to assume it's a skill issue and not a healer issue....
If your team has dendro and pyro you better use a ranged character or help your team by countering the reaction with hydro or cryo is what i learned through the hard way 😢
@@ameame32 Most likely not C1 and on an Emblem build instead of tenacity (or vourukasha's, but that's not a good dps set before C4). Like...come on. They're inflicting burning on everyone and taking part of it with their skill. They were always going to be the first to die here unless they built her as a tank.
@@BILL-CIPHER-I-NEED-SIXER It’s stupid how they judge a another Baizhu’s healing when they should be the one healing :/ Like don’t expect a healer to heal quick when they can’t. It takes time ;-;
I pity for the Baizhu main. They really did their best at the 1st round. At least you went all the way to cheer and comfort him. Great work, Jimmy. You are a very caring player. 😄😁
I can relate to this. I love playing Baizhu, especially with Azdaha. Once I got into coope mode with a random team and we died three times in a row. At first I felt guilty soo much, cause I used my Baizhu and he isn’t perfect yet. But then I noticed that my teammates were not even dodging Azdaha’s attacks, just tanking him even in his jumping mode. And Baizhu’s heal has a cooldown (10sec). I use Pr.Amber too, and even that was not enough. When I realised all this stuff, I just left without a word. It’s so stupid to feel yourself guilty for fifteen minutes in a row just cause you can’t heal enough to tank all heavy stuff, and your teammates don’t want to dodge cause you heal, it’s your job. That’s not how it works
It’s why I just stay away from random coop because I can’t stand this level of stupidity. Sure, it might be fun to just suffer together, but I can only handle so much bad playing…
Sometimes it does feel embarrassing letting people die in coop as a healer but ofc if they think we’re the statue of the seven or the sweet madam then I have no word to say.
remind me of a random coop I had too on Azdaha, with a couple of AR 60 and a 59 💀, yet they didn't dodge Azdaha stomps, and use cryo dps (Ayaka & Ganyu), n a dendro unit (nahida) against cryo hydro Azdaha, left me with option changing my pre selected Yoi to Kuki since they persist on cryo and no one pick healer, and then they died mid battle, and chatted "Kuki isn't a healer?" continuing idc when I literally chasing them to heal them with my ring and changing direction whilst monitoring u guys healthbar, broo u supposed to come to the healer to heal not me chasing off u three that went running around separately 😂, moreover they didn't dodge Azdaha stomps, orbs and icycle rain just went googoo gaga aiming and spam NA ing 😂, thankfully I still managed to beat Az alone even tho it tooks like 8 minutes with my reaction-less EM HB Kuki. This made me realize there's a lot of player out there playing the game for a long time but didnt do enough research about the game content esp bosses pattern, elemental reaction and char kits, AR level isn't a solid measure now haha
Tons of people in coop seem to forget that healers have cooldowns. I play Bennett often in Raiden's domain, and even his burst CD makes me worried. My ER is quite high, so I can drop his burst as soon as his CD ends, but I've had tons of times where I'm thinking: "GIVE ME 5 SECONDS." I honestly stopped giving a f**k if a teammate messes up. I put in the effort to keep you alive, you didn't, so you're one less problem.
This gigachad Baizhu: Trying their best to keep the team alive, big respect Meanwhile me a chaotic evil in co-op: using Baizhu to heals all Hu Tao who join my world every cool down on purpose
I once heal a hu tao because i joined their world to help and they wanted me to do dailies. I ask what theyre doing "legit just walking here"..i was pissed, just treating people like that, so i heal them and left
As a healer main myself I actually love to see Baizhu in co-op. The dude can heal from basically every spot of afield. It's so convenient. And healing itself is usually great too
As a person who uses baizhu alot I could say being a healer is hard work my guy especially with baizhu, u have no idea how I was sweating keeping the team alive with baizhu's cool down so long in one co-op SKREEEEEE
I usually just use my burst nd reserve skill for when i know has a high mortality rate. Esp since Dr. Bai's heals snek spirit has a delay when healing.
I saw that Dehya with all the dendro characters and figured out instantly that all these melee characters would die from burning if they didn't swap to someone else. Kandy has not only skill issues, but it's clear they've never died to burning damage. Even though this time they did, they couldn't learn anything from the experience.
How to use Alhaitham.First method when u have burst active. make sure you have no mirrors then use burst. then do normals until 2 three-mirror attacks rain down. use tap skill or charged attack, and wait for 2 3mirror attacks again, use skill or charged attack (whichever you did not use previously. Then keep normal attacking until u have 0 mirrors then repeat entire thing. Second if you have no burst ready: hold skill and plunge making sure to hit the enemy with your plunge. normal attack (or ca it doesn't matter here) until u have 0 mirrors and burst, then use first method. For normal attacks I only use his first three and sprint cancel because his 4th and especially 5th normals are slow. Once you use the charged attack (or plunge) in your rotation u can continue charged attacking if you want. Note that when you tap skill (starting from when you have 0 mirrors) and then charged attack you lose out on damage compared to holding and plunging because the normal attack following the charged attack triggers a 2 mirror projection attack. I find it is optimal to use burst (then after your 2 three mirror projections (mirror attack 1 & 2) immediately ca and then (after 2 more three mirror projection attacks (mirror attack 3 & 4) tap or hold skill (It doesn't matter here because you already used his passive with the previous charged attack) because most of the time trash mobs die right after the second round of mirrors (mirror attack 3 &4) the enemy die so you cannot get 2 three mirror attack out of your charged attack because you have to chase down the mobs and using the charged attack activate 1 2 mirror projection attack and then a 3 mirror one (because of the normal attack following his charged attacks). So in short for main rotations burst, do 2 projection attacks, charged attack, do 2 projection attacks, skill and unga Bunga, attack until no mirrors and then rinse and repeat. Without burst hold skill and plunge (preferably on enemies) then unga Bunga until no mirrors.
I’m sorry if I’m slow but what’s *the difference/significance between charged attack and a projection attack? Isn’t a projection attack done using a charged attack? Mainly because whenever I do a charged attack, I usually have to do a few charge attacks (which is just physical damage) until there’s a chance for mirrors to suddenly appear (then dendro damage)- is that a projection attack you were referring to? Edit: Or is a projection attack from his skill? Maybe you explained it in your thing and if so, I’m sorry for the redundancy- I’m probably getting stuff mixed up because the mirrors are admittedly confusing for me 😭
@@Blue-ht4oqHELLO omg sorry you werent talking to me but projection attacks are the attacks that come after when you have your mirrors up! for example; if you have 3 mirrors up and you attack then it will unleash the dendro rain, that is what the projection attack is :) its the same as when you use two mirrors (big slash) and one mirror (smaller slash). You dont have to do a charge attack to trigger the projection attacks, HOWEVER, you have do a plunging attack/charge attack to gain a mirror (ex; holding skill on top of the enemy and plunging will give you max mirrors)
That reminds of that one azhdaha fight in co-op I was playing as Bennett and there was another player with their Ayaka, while everyone else were in the corners when Azhdaha was doing that Shockwave attack, that Player went near him to attack and there hp started going down rapidly, So I quickly rushed there and used my ult but they died Then the next moment they started blaming me amd called me a bad healer :/
That just happened to me yesterday, not so aggressive but still...I bought baizhu to heal, then one coop member just ran straight to the boss range.... of course they died. They asked "where is the heal?" and I was like, hell?! Baizhu ain't continuous heal like those food
oh man I've had something like that with Kokomi. people see me sometimes and just decide that they're invincible now. I can't heal you through Azhdaha stomps, do you understand how cooldowns and ER work? sure lemme just waste my burst that could save the entire team later (and risk dying myself) on your silly ass that still hasn't figured you're supposed to run away when he's stomping AND the damage he can take caps for each of his phases anyway
They really thought it was a good idea to bring pyro character in coop with Dendro characters (burning reaction) fighting Raiden of all things (overload reaction) and then let's not forget that Dehya also took some of others' damage and have the audacity to blame the healer lmaoo
In co-op a tip, never try burning combs. I was helping a guy, and I brought nahida and kuki, and he only had Bennett and barbara, we barely made out alive since bennet and nahida were making us burn to death
How did this player even manage to kill their Dehya, even drangonspine can't kill her, they sure have skill issues and they blame the healer.. nah bro they trippin'
reminds me of how sometimes i be layla in coop, and then everyone just runs to raidens attack patterns💀 then they all end up dying because they think my shield is invicible
Yes! Layla's coop shield is mostly damage reduction and to avoid knockback. If people want to tank, then bring a healer too. Even with 51k, my Layla will not morph into Zhongli. In the end, only us Laylas can tank the boss.
The reason is Raiden is dangerous to approach with Burning on her, because she is so fookin hot,and she puts everything around her on fire ,including herself🤣🤣🤣 (im being Cyno,i know :) )
As someone who usually plays supports usually Kazuha, Bennet, Kokomi or Faruzan (depending on who my teammates pick), despite being a Keqing and Amber main. things like this truly annoy me. especially if someone is going out of their way to try to die, e.g., running out of range for heals despite being low health... People sometimes forget that some of us play supports in order to try and balance out the party, especially when everyone else want to play with their favourite dps. If I could play amber in every coop, I definitely would, but sometimes I realize that if I bring Amber, the party will be horribly unbalanced. Don't get me wrong though, a lot of people genuinely like playing with certain supports, and when that happens, more power to them, I'm more than happy to bust out my Amber or Keqing and play my mains, but that might not always be the case. Remember, sometimes that Barbara, Bennet, Kokomi, Kazuha or other support in your party might be sacrificing a little bit so you can go play with the characters you want to. sorry for the rant. what that Dehya player did annoyed me to no end.
It triggers me as well. Baizhu's healing range is so wide it's almost practically impossible NOT to heal anyone when the player uses his E skill. Baizhu is easily one of the best as far as healing is concerned. Aside from dodging and keeping Baizhu far enough from the enemy, we don't need mad player skills to heal when we're using Baizhu; he heals whether we like it or not! Yet dying as one of the best tanks in the game with a Baizhu in the team--it's utterly shameless to blame it on the healer, tbh.
It truly does hurt. I was doing a domain one time and brought my only healer at the time, Qiqi, since no one else wanted to. 2 people died (they literally were in the attack zone) and they started talking in french, i wanted to know what they were saying and google translated it, turns out they were trash talking me lmaoo Left that world asap.
I hope Changsheng haunts them in their sleep. IDK what that player was on about. What I know is Dehya will tank a portion of everyone's damage (it's literally her skill) and in this particular domain, it doesn't help that her sanctum deals pyro. I'm quite amazed how Baizhu was the last one to die. EDIT: I'm glad to see a lot of Baizhu mains and healers in the comments! Baizhu is my favorite healer. ☺
People should understand that healers can't keep looking at their health and keep fighting, and they also have a cool down. And the amount the healing they can do.
Yes its skill issues indeed. I have C5 Kuki and use her a lot in Coop, because I load her with good amount of EM and she also does almost decent damage too in reactions. But again, Kuki does "radius healing" and can't heal you from any spot in the field. So if you need healing just come to me and dont expect me to run into 3 scattered people across the continent, like, bish, its so tiring, drains my stamina and chances to hit enemies. Because yes, I've often blamed too, even with my constantly healing Kuki without downtime.
I'm mostly dying in co-op because i am getting carried away. I'm so used to certain dangerous types of playstyle that i forget not anyone can hadle it 😂 And most of the time it requires a shielder not a healer (but i love Hu Tao+YaoYao too). Now i got Eula so i'm doing my best to learn dodging better.
Someone once insulted me before starting Scara's boss battle because I chose to play as Barbara. I waited until that player died during the first part and then proceeded to heal everyone (+950hp per normal attack). During the second part, the player who died revived and this time they said "go barbara go!" 😂😂😂😂
I feel like people dont realize how Baizhu works... It takes a second for him to actually heal bc of how the skill works and the skill cool down is 10sec, (unless c1, you get an extra skill charge)... Like you might have a healer but you could still try not to die as fast... Ps. I have always been the healer as Baizhu and the trying to die as fast as possible is a me experience...(not everyone does it)
I also used baizhu and got scolded saying I didn't heal... Idk why, maybe they didn't know Baizhu skill/heal has cooldown. He can't heal all the time. You must wait for few secs to heal again and it isn't instant because when you throw the snake, it is only the moment she comes back that you receive healing.. So dodge all you can even if there is a healer. Also don't take things so seriously, it's just a game, you can always restart the domain.
I have fair share of players dying on me when I play healer. Some purposely run away from my healer, like, bruh, Diano can't heal you if you're on the other side of stage. Others felt invincible because we have healer and didn't even try to dodge. Did they think healer skills didn't have cool down or upper limit? smh. Fortunately, I only get blamed once or twice, most understand they died because their own stupidity. PS: not u using that name with Eula characters 💀
yeah i remember one time i brought kokomi to azhdaha who is rlly built at healing but someone who brought raiden died (skill issue fr) and said “this is why i didn’t pull for the fish” like you really were out there at the danger zone when you’re not supposed to 😭😭
I used to pick dps characters in co-op but ever since i got baizhu i have realised just how satisfying it is to be a healer main lol Seeing the hp bars go from the brink of death to basically full health in one elemental skill is cathartic LMAO! (and tbh bad encounters like these are extremely rare) P.s. i also realise how many people overlook support characters in co-op and just chase big numbers WELL GUESS WHAT I CAN DO BIG NUMBERS TOO! In heals!! :3
I feel most games with co-op is about the group effort. Sometimes there is technically someone to blame - if specific cooldowns need to be used at very specific times or nobody does a specific task, but even still, everyone makes mistakes. Even people that are super good make mistakes.... The whole blaming the healer immediately has always been weird to me... imo the best players, of any game, are those who've tried all roles, so they know what is possible and how to work together to make it happen..... And honestly if you don't want to rely on other people... don't play with other people.... Good job cheering for him after that!
I was once in the Blizzard Strayer domain. I was using my (still toddler) Yoimiya at only AR48 (2nd acc) with Barbara (not sure tho but it was a healer), Itto, and I forgot the last one. Anyway, Itto player died. Then they chatted, "where's the heal?" I wasn't the healer but I kinda got offended cause I know how hard the healers work and they can't control everything. (I often play as Yaoyao in my main acc.) So I replied, "bro you got one-shotted." Then to not seem rude, I added, "Be careful. Big damage here." The Itto player just left. 😂
Omg, i remember in scaramouche boss fight someone took a raiden and i took a kazuha. No one took a healer. Anyways the raiden person died alongside someone else and it was only me (kazuha) and someone playing as nahida left. And the raiden player has the nerve to say that we were losing cause someone 'decided to take kazuha' so i was like, 'we're losing cause someone decided to take raiden in a boss that has electro resistance' and that im a support and what are they doing other than being dead and useless. anyways me and the nahida killed the scaramouche and they left. Lol people be blaming whoever for their own skill issue, if u want to not die so bad be the healer yourself.
one time, i played kokomi against apep and died. i was out of stamina trying to sprint to different players to heal them with my jellyfish. so i got oneshotted by that one attack. and this alhaitham main got mad and went "are you serious?" jesus man, i have a cooldown too yknow. maybe if you stopped rushing into attacks and knew when to back away, i could have healed yall better
ppl like that player is the reason why i don't play coop when i fight with bosses. as a sensitive person, that kind of person is not welcome in my world 😔
I am a believer that people should be responsible for their own health. while having a healer is wonderful on the team you was a player should be responsible for yourself in co-op sure mistakes happen and people die in spite of their being a healer (again it's really not that deep it's just game you can always try again like??) but I've found that the main reason that people do is because of resklessness (naturally not all cases things just happen you know) people depend solely on the healer which applies a bunch of pressure on to them and keep in mind they also have to deal with cool downs and sometimes mistakes they make in terms of when choosing to heal and manage everyone's hp bar and if you're just charging forward it might and in most occasions will, affect you. So my take from this is yes you can rely on healers in co-op but you are also responsible for keeping yourself alive! Don't accuse someone else when you know that you could have just played it safe and dodged or backed away for a moment
Sometimes people in coop wil forget to dodge when they have a healer, they will going unga bunga then die and blame the healer loll Also if you use baizhu c0 you have to maintain the timing when you use your skill or ulti and always focus on everyone hp, it's kinda hard that you have to dodge and focusing on everyone health, also baizhu normal attacks range is too small thats why baizhu don't have to keep attacking the enemies (also the dmg is not that great) just focus to keep yourself and teammates alive. I always bring my baizhu c0 to coop (raiden boss too) and never get my teammates died, I use sand er (49k hp) so my ultimate is always ready.
I get this all the time. People see me main Jean and think it's a free pass to just button mash. If they didn't suck, her passive healing, blow by blow, would still keep them afloat. If that 'healer' is remotely competent, they'll still win it for the group if they had some patience, in the *worst*-case scenario where everybody else drops. It be what it do; The 10+ minutes it'll be to drop out and re-visit the domain is more appealing than the 5 minutes for the healer to solo the boss while the others wait, I guess. Kek.
I love that you guys defended the healer! Also yes, that's the wrong combo for Alhaitham 😅 usually you want to mantain three mirrors as much as possible. You could do something like burst, attack until third mirror runs out, hold E up to plunge, attack, etc etc depending on your build. Don't do E then burst because that will consume the mirrors. Also you want more charged attacks in your combo for max damage. I am actually practicing this combo for my spread team. Good luck!
This...i remembered someone in childe (lvl 90 childe, they brought in lvl 60 beidou), died because there was a nilou in the team..and they were like "WHeRes ThE HeaL?" And left..like bro..i saw your hp went from red to green fron my heals then you got one shotted. Even cyno confirmed it was the counterattack from nilou's dmg
I am hf of the time a Kokomi main in domain because nobody bring an healer or a good one. I was also a toxic person who used to play a lot of Fps in the past and for some reason now I'm calm. But WHENEVER SOMEONE DIE BECAUSE DOESN'T STAY NEAR THE JELLYFISH I have an insane way to mock at them. I'm a troller healer I guess
Brings Pyro. Stands in all attacks, blames healer. This is why I build my healers as hybrids in every game- do stupid stuff your mortality is not my concern.
I had someone blame the healer in one of my coops in signora's domain but it was entirely their fault cause they keep on going out the radius of the heater/cooler😭
Dang these people not knowing his skill AND burst has a CD and he can't just pop it as soon as it greens. If you want those kind of healer, get Barbara or Qiqi (as they heal you as long as you attack the enemy non-stop) - Kuki if you're going to punch the bosses face to face. I use Baizhu in coop most of the time but during Azhdaha and new Dendro Boss I mostly use Barbara especially after learning (by getting wiped out) that some of my teammates still doesn't know to get inside the dendro dome
someone on ar 58 did this too while the healer is ar 50, they were cursing at the healer but the ar 58 is the only one that died... they cursed at me and everyone after I said they just suck at dodging LOL
I remember when i was playing coop and some ayaka died first and said something like: " Great damage team. Really great. " and she left. I was wondering what was her problem.
The only time I have any input on the healer is when I'm playing co-op with my friend. My catchphrase then is "Where's the Jellyfish!!??". At least he used a healer, we should be happy that Baizhu was there...
I don’t criticize the healer, ever, I know it’s hard to heal up to 4 people at one time, and most of the time healers have a radius, so when I die in domains I’m apologetic,
That Baizhu is at least C1, he had two charges of his skill, and he’s doing really good heals. He has either got crazy artifacts or almost crowned or fully crowned skill/burst. Definitely not healer issue. I love playing healer and people are so annoying when they blame the healer for getting one shorted or using burn/overload reactions.
I was surprised one time when my Yoimiya literally BURNED all enemies I came across in open world. It now only takes a few hits for her to take them down. This was confusing because I actually just ranked up my world. Then I realized it was because I ascended my Baizhu and opened all his talents. Also note that I built him as pure healer. His healing bonus totals to 65% with only one 5* artifact (the rest are purples).
People better think twice before blaming the healer.. they could decide whether you live or die any point of the week If ur gonna blame healers because you keep tanking every goddamn attack then be your own goddamn healer ??
Tip for alhaitham: try using ur skill slightly off the ground so you plunge attack and attack twice with 3 mirrors instead of attacking 1 with 3 and 1 with 2
Everytime I use kokomi i feel like I'm the only one actually trying there. Everytime I put the fish at a place close to them that the enemy won't reach immediately and they can get 2 seconds to heal these idiots just walk straight infront of the enemy and dies. I've yet to meet someone that blames me for their stupidity but it still baffles me after playing there game for over 2 years there are still players like that
They either died from burning or from overload moral of the story: don’t bring a character who can inflict pyro for the team 💀 especially when it’s raiden or apep boss
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In my experience people who blame healers 1. have skill issues or make poor decisions 2. have unrealistic expectations of what a healer can do 3. don't like that particular healer cuz they aren't Bennet.
If Dehya had continued infusing pyro, everyone would have died from the overload.
They should learn how to dodge, healers also have cooldown plus some of them like Diona or Bennett only heal with burst, also u need a very well built shilder if u dont wanna dodge
Burning reaction is quite deadly in co-op lmao
probably on par with overloaded
the dehya user should've expected what's coming 😭 either you know when to stop applying pyro or else
I mean, if you decide to play a tank character who is pyro and will cause overloads in this fight and is at 50% hp at the start, I'm inclined to assume it's a skill issue and not a healer issue....
these were my thoughts exactly! 👏👏👏
It's not even the overloads that was the issue, it was the fact they used a Pyro char with 3 other teammates using Dendro chars.
Oh and I forgot to mention her self healing passive! so yep skill issue.
Yeah, it could happen with any pyro characters as well. Someone brought Bennett, and I had nahida. Well, we almost died 😂
If your team has dendro and pyro you better use a ranged character or help your team by countering the reaction with hydro or cryo is what i learned through the hard way 😢
Never insult the healer or else
Or else what?
@@aether6066 death
If the healer sucks u can rightfully criticise them
@@sldoee how can a healer suck💀
He’ll watch in the corner how you die
Its honestly skill issue when a dehya dies with a healer
Ikr that's what I was thinking how did he die with a Dehya
@@ameame32 Most likely not C1 and on an Emblem build instead of tenacity (or vourukasha's, but that's not a good dps set before C4).
Like...come on. They're inflicting burning on everyone and taking part of it with their skill. They were always going to be the first to die here unless they built her as a tank.
i feel so bad for baizhu, it still feels terrible to be blamed for something so stupid, even tho i know, not everything can be outhealed
Agreed he was doing his best
I had a smiliar experience in the blizzard slayer domain the diluc died in a single hit and blamed my baizhu
Not them blaming on Baizhu when they have Baizhu on their profile picture 💀
Maybe they think it gives ‘em the right to judge because “they have Baizhu too”. Similar to someone who’s shitting because of any DPS DMG output
@@Lui_seki Then they should’ve healed with their Baizhu Instead of talking shit about the other healer Baizhu.
They may have thought they had a better baizhu, yet they wouldn’t think to tell them the reasons THEY have a good baizhu
@@BILL-CIPHER-I-NEED-SIXER It’s stupid how they judge a another Baizhu’s healing when they should be the one healing :/ Like don’t expect a healer to heal quick when they can’t. It takes time ;-;
@@StarlightRite correct.
I pity for the Baizhu main. They really did their best at the 1st round. At least you went all the way to cheer and comfort him. Great work, Jimmy. You are a very caring player. 😄😁
I can relate to this. I love playing Baizhu, especially with Azdaha. Once I got into coope mode with a random team and we died three times in a row. At first I felt guilty soo much, cause I used my Baizhu and he isn’t perfect yet. But then I noticed that my teammates were not even dodging Azdaha’s attacks, just tanking him even in his jumping mode. And Baizhu’s heal has a cooldown (10sec). I use Pr.Amber too, and even that was not enough. When I realised all this stuff, I just left without a word. It’s so stupid to feel yourself guilty for fifteen minutes in a row just cause you can’t heal enough to tank all heavy stuff, and your teammates don’t want to dodge cause you heal, it’s your job. That’s not how it works
It’s why I just stay away from random coop because I can’t stand this level of stupidity. Sure, it might be fun to just suffer together, but I can only handle so much bad playing…
Sometimes it does feel embarrassing letting people die in coop as a healer but ofc if they think we’re the statue of the seven or the sweet madam then I have no word to say.
remind me of a random coop I had too on Azdaha, with a couple of AR 60 and a 59 💀, yet they didn't dodge Azdaha stomps, and use cryo dps (Ayaka & Ganyu), n a dendro unit (nahida) against cryo hydro Azdaha, left me with option changing my pre selected Yoi to Kuki since they persist on cryo and no one pick healer, and then they died mid battle, and chatted "Kuki isn't a healer?" continuing idc when I literally chasing them to heal them with my ring and changing direction whilst monitoring u guys healthbar, broo u supposed to come to the healer to heal not me chasing off u three that went running around separately 😂, moreover they didn't dodge Azdaha stomps, orbs and icycle rain just went googoo gaga aiming and spam NA ing 😂, thankfully I still managed to beat Az alone even tho it tooks like 8 minutes with my reaction-less EM HB Kuki. This made me realize there's a lot of player out there playing the game for a long time but didnt do enough research about the game content esp bosses pattern, elemental reaction and char kits, AR level isn't a solid measure now haha
Tons of people in coop seem to forget that healers have cooldowns. I play Bennett often in Raiden's domain, and even his burst CD makes me worried. My ER is quite high, so I can drop his burst as soon as his CD ends, but I've had tons of times where I'm thinking: "GIVE ME 5 SECONDS."
I honestly stopped giving a f**k if a teammate messes up. I put in the effort to keep you alive, you didn't, so you're one less problem.
@@novalriff6302I did exactly that today, only two of us were alive at the end 😅
The moment I see dendro+pyro in a team. Their fate is sealed.
Lol I use it to kill the enemies. Baizhu kaeya xingqui Bennett lol no1 dies
I was Nahida and my friend Dehya and we were fine
@@DamonsMistrisVampire no one build EM in your team,so not surprising.
Yup ..its self burn...literally
it's a huge reason why whenever I was in co-op and I mained Baizhu, I had to solo the bosses myself while everybody watched
as a healer main in co op, never disrespect the healer - sometimes it’s a matter of life or death (and nobody likes redoing a boss)
This gigachad Baizhu: Trying their best to keep the team alive, big respect
Meanwhile me a chaotic evil in co-op: using Baizhu to heals all Hu Tao who join my world every cool down on purpose
Actually the same. I just love seeing that red health bar becoming full all of a sudden hahaha.
Nah you playing Baizhu correctly.
I once heal a hu tao because i joined their world to help and they wanted me to do dailies. I ask what theyre doing "legit just walking here"..i was pissed, just treating people like that, so i heal them and left
The fact you were reassuring baizhu was so nice😭‼️🫶
As a healer main myself I actually love to see Baizhu in co-op. The dude can heal from basically every spot of afield. It's so convenient. And healing itself is usually great too
As a person who uses baizhu alot I could say being a healer is hard work my guy especially with baizhu, u have no idea how I was sweating keeping the team alive with baizhu's cool down so long in one co-op SKREEEEEE
I usually just use my burst nd reserve skill for when i know has a high mortality rate. Esp since Dr. Bai's heals snek spirit has a delay when healing.
Dude that baizhu was doing 5k-7k heals per elemental skill its definitely not a healer issue 💀
I saw that Dehya with all the dendro characters and figured out instantly that all these melee characters would die from burning if they didn't swap to someone else. Kandy has not only skill issues, but it's clear they've never died to burning damage. Even though this time they did, they couldn't learn anything from the experience.
How to use Alhaitham.First method when u have burst active. make sure you have no mirrors then use burst. then do normals until 2 three-mirror attacks rain down. use tap skill or charged attack, and wait for 2 3mirror attacks again, use skill or charged attack (whichever you did not use previously. Then keep normal attacking until u have 0 mirrors then repeat entire thing.
Second if you have no burst ready: hold skill and plunge making sure to hit the enemy with your plunge. normal attack (or ca it doesn't matter here) until u have 0 mirrors and burst, then use first method.
For normal attacks I only use his first three and sprint cancel because his 4th and especially 5th normals are slow. Once you use the charged attack (or plunge) in your rotation u can continue charged attacking if you want.
Note that when you tap skill (starting from when you have 0 mirrors) and then charged attack you lose out on damage compared to holding and plunging because the normal attack following the charged attack triggers a 2 mirror projection attack.
I find it is optimal to use burst (then after your 2 three mirror projections (mirror attack 1 & 2) immediately ca and then (after 2 more three mirror projection attacks (mirror attack 3 & 4) tap or hold skill (It doesn't matter here because you already used his passive with the previous charged attack) because most of the time trash mobs die right after the second round of mirrors (mirror attack 3 &4) the enemy die so you cannot get 2 three mirror attack out of your charged attack because you have to chase down the mobs and using the charged attack activate 1 2 mirror projection attack and then a 3 mirror one (because of the normal attack following his charged attacks).
So in short for main rotations burst, do 2 projection attacks, charged attack, do 2 projection attacks, skill and unga Bunga, attack until no mirrors and then rinse and repeat.
Without burst hold skill and plunge (preferably on enemies) then unga Bunga until no mirrors.
Lmao we dont even have to watch alhaitham guide,we have this comment
I’m sorry if I’m slow but what’s *the difference/significance between charged attack and a projection attack? Isn’t a projection attack done using a charged attack? Mainly because whenever I do a charged attack, I usually have to do a few charge attacks (which is just physical damage) until there’s a chance for mirrors to suddenly appear (then dendro damage)- is that a projection attack you were referring to? Edit: Or is a projection attack from his skill?
Maybe you explained it in your thing and if so, I’m sorry for the redundancy- I’m probably getting stuff mixed up because the mirrors are admittedly confusing for me 😭
@@Blue-ht4oqHELLO omg sorry you werent talking to me but projection attacks are the attacks that come after when you have your mirrors up! for example; if you have 3 mirrors up and you attack then it will unleash the dendro rain, that is what the projection attack is :) its the same as when you use two mirrors (big slash) and one mirror (smaller slash). You dont have to do a charge attack to trigger the projection attacks, HOWEVER, you have do a plunging attack/charge attack to gain a mirror (ex; holding skill on top of the enemy and plunging will give you max mirrors)
@@Blue-ht4oq Projection attacks are the green knives. For a three mirror projection attack it looks like a rain of green knives from the sky.
@@andreassigalas2813 precisely
That reminds of that one azhdaha fight in co-op
I was playing as Bennett and there was another player with their Ayaka, while everyone else were in the corners when Azhdaha was doing that Shockwave attack, that Player went near him to attack and there hp started going down rapidly, So I quickly rushed there and used my ult but they died
Then the next moment they started blaming me amd called me a bad healer :/
Yeah that was their bad. What did they expect you to do, teleport? Everyone knows if you stay in the stomps it’s death
That just happened to me yesterday, not so aggressive but still...I bought baizhu to heal, then one coop member just ran straight to the boss range.... of course they died. They asked "where is the heal?" and I was like, hell?! Baizhu ain't continuous heal like those food
kinda shocks me on how dehya died so fast lmao
Burning+overload can be a deadly combination ++ Even for a tanky Dehya...
@@atomicgrave4340 oh ok
@@atomicgrave4340 plus Dehya also take others damage lol, her self healing won't be fast enough to keep her alive
As a healer main, I can say that it isn't really the healers fault if someone dies...for the most part, that is.
“Nah that’s skill issue” OKAY DAMN DUDE😭😭
Keep the team alive and survive at the same time is really hard.
Never blame the healer.
Having a healer in our team doesn't mean no need to dodge.
oh man I've had something like that with Kokomi. people see me sometimes and just decide that they're invincible now. I can't heal you through Azhdaha stomps, do you understand how cooldowns and ER work? sure lemme just waste my burst that could save the entire team later (and risk dying myself) on your silly ass that still hasn't figured you're supposed to run away when he's stomping AND the damage he can take caps for each of his phases anyway
They really thought it was a good idea to bring pyro character in coop with Dendro characters (burning reaction) fighting Raiden of all things (overload reaction) and then let's not forget that Dehya also took some of others' damage and have the audacity to blame the healer lmaoo
In co-op a tip, never try burning combs. I was helping a guy, and I brought nahida and kuki, and he only had Bennett and barbara, we barely made out alive since bennet and nahida were making us burn to death
Nahida is often built with some EM even when she's only equipped with a EM cup so the burning damage will be significant 💀
@@phuonglethithanh8498 yeah and was in the deepwood domain as well (more em) 💀
How did this player even manage to kill their Dehya, even drangonspine can't kill her, they sure have skill issues and they blame the healer.. nah bro they trippin'
That's what I'm saying, between Baizhu and Dehya's passive, the only way to die is to actively not give a damn.
reminds me of how sometimes i be layla in coop, and then everyone just runs to raidens attack patterns💀 then they all end up dying because they think my shield is invicible
Yes! Layla's coop shield is mostly damage reduction and to avoid knockback. If people want to tank, then bring a healer too. Even with 51k, my Layla will not morph into Zhongli. In the end, only us Laylas can tank the boss.
The reason is Raiden is dangerous to approach with Burning on her, because she is so fookin hot,and she puts everything around her on fire ,including herself🤣🤣🤣 (im being Cyno,i know :) )
As someone who usually plays supports usually Kazuha, Bennet, Kokomi or Faruzan (depending on who my teammates pick), despite being a Keqing and Amber main. things like this truly annoy me. especially if someone is going out of their way to try to die, e.g., running out of range for heals despite being low health...
People sometimes forget that some of us play supports in order to try and balance out the party, especially when everyone else want to play with their favourite dps. If I could play amber in every coop, I definitely would, but sometimes I realize that if I bring Amber, the party will be horribly unbalanced.
Don't get me wrong though, a lot of people genuinely like playing with certain supports, and when that happens, more power to them, I'm more than happy to bust out my Amber or Keqing and play my mains, but that might not always be the case. Remember, sometimes that Barbara, Bennet, Kokomi, Kazuha or other support in your party might be sacrificing a little bit so you can go play with the characters you want to.
sorry for the rant. what that Dehya player did annoyed me to no end.
It triggers me as well. Baizhu's healing range is so wide it's almost practically impossible NOT to heal anyone when the player uses his E skill. Baizhu is easily one of the best as far as healing is concerned. Aside from dodging and keeping Baizhu far enough from the enemy, we don't need mad player skills to heal when we're using Baizhu; he heals whether we like it or not! Yet dying as one of the best tanks in the game with a Baizhu in the team--it's utterly shameless to blame it on the healer, tbh.
It truly does hurt. I was doing a domain one time and brought my only healer at the time, Qiqi, since no one else wanted to. 2 people died (they literally were in the attack zone) and they started talking in french, i wanted to know what they were saying and google translated it, turns out they were trash talking me lmaoo
Left that world asap.
I hope Changsheng haunts them in their sleep. IDK what that player was on about. What I know is Dehya will tank a portion of everyone's damage (it's literally her skill) and in this particular domain, it doesn't help that her sanctum deals pyro. I'm quite amazed how Baizhu was the last one to die. EDIT: I'm glad to see a lot of Baizhu mains and healers in the comments! Baizhu is my favorite healer. ☺
As a Baizhu-Kazuha main, we're always the last to die in weekly boss co-op (except if your Baizhu is a DPS build but it's pretty decent)
People should understand that healers can't keep looking at their health and keep fighting, and they also have a cool down. And the amount the healing they can do.
Yes its skill issues indeed. I have C5 Kuki and use her a lot in Coop, because I load her with good amount of EM and she also does almost decent damage too in reactions.
But again, Kuki does "radius healing" and can't heal you from any spot in the field. So if you need healing just come to me and dont expect me to run into 3 scattered people across the continent, like, bish, its so tiring, drains my stamina and chances to hit enemies. Because yes, I've often blamed too, even with my constantly healing Kuki without downtime.
It's nice to see that there are still kind players in this game. Baizhu gave his all! Good heal! 🙏
the baizhu did good!! ♥️
you’re very kind,,, i hate when people blame or order around the healer, just be the healer or play by yourself then 🙄
I'm mostly dying in co-op because i am getting carried away. I'm so used to certain dangerous types of playstyle that i forget not anyone can hadle it 😂 And most of the time it requires a shielder not a healer (but i love Hu Tao+YaoYao too).
Now i got Eula so i'm doing my best to learn dodging better.
Jimmy: "Oh well Eula won't fit in this team..."
Also Jimmy: *proceeds to pick another Dendro in a team with already 2 Dendro*
Me: 🤦
Someone once insulted me before starting Scara's boss battle because I chose to play as Barbara.
I waited until that player died during the first part and then proceeded to heal everyone (+950hp per normal attack).
During the second part, the player who died revived and this time they said "go barbara go!" 😂😂😂😂
I feel like people dont realize how Baizhu works... It takes a second for him to actually heal bc of how the skill works and the skill cool down is 10sec, (unless c1, you get an extra skill charge)... Like you might have a healer but you could still try not to die as fast...
Ps. I have always been the healer as Baizhu and the trying to die as fast as possible is a me experience...(not everyone does it)
2:15 DAGANRONPA I CANT I THOUGHT THE SAME THE MOMTN I READ IT
Did he just make a Danganronpa reference or I'm dreaming ? 😭 I thought the fandom died lmao
We’re still here ✊🏼😌
That eula ending was lit 😭😭
I also used baizhu and got scolded saying I didn't heal... Idk why, maybe they didn't know Baizhu skill/heal has cooldown. He can't heal all the time. You must wait for few secs to heal again and it isn't instant because when you throw the snake, it is only the moment she comes back that you receive healing.. So dodge all you can even if there is a healer. Also don't take things so seriously, it's just a game, you can always restart the domain.
Bro I literally suck at playing alhaitham too！also that Baizhu did very well
FINALLY, I SEE A FELLOW TIGHNARI USER IN WEEKLY CO OP
When I’m the healer and someone dies I apologise so much cause I don’t want them to blame me 😭
every single time I see burn team, I will opt for hydro characters. Once you burn, it'll be hard to save you.
I have fair share of players dying on me when I play healer. Some purposely run away from my healer, like, bruh, Diano can't heal you if you're on the other side of stage. Others felt invincible because we have healer and didn't even try to dodge. Did they think healer skills didn't have cool down or upper limit? smh.
Fortunately, I only get blamed once or twice, most understand they died because their own stupidity.
PS: not u using that name with Eula characters 💀
bro got pyro in a dendro team knowing it'll lower your hp and insults the healer bc they cant dodge💀
yeah i remember one time i brought kokomi to azhdaha who is rlly built at healing but someone who brought raiden died (skill issue fr) and said “this is why i didn’t pull for the fish” like you really were out there at the danger zone when you’re not supposed to 😭😭
I used to pick dps characters in co-op but ever since i got baizhu i have realised just how satisfying it is to be a healer main lol
Seeing the hp bars go from the brink of death to basically full health in one elemental skill is cathartic LMAO!
(and tbh bad encounters like these are extremely rare)
P.s. i also realise how many people overlook support characters in co-op and just chase big numbers WELL GUESS WHAT I CAN DO BIG NUMBERS TOO! In heals!! :3
I feel most games with co-op is about the group effort. Sometimes there is technically someone to blame - if specific cooldowns need to be used at very specific times or nobody does a specific task, but even still, everyone makes mistakes. Even people that are super good make mistakes.... The whole blaming the healer immediately has always been weird to me... imo the best players, of any game, are those who've tried all roles, so they know what is possible and how to work together to make it happen..... And honestly if you don't want to rely on other people... don't play with other people.... Good job cheering for him after that!
If someone blames me for not doing my job as a healer with baizhu, i aint healing them after that
I never trust healers to heal me 😂 thats why my dodging skills are very good but burning reaction is..
I was once in the Blizzard Strayer domain. I was using my (still toddler) Yoimiya at only AR48 (2nd acc) with Barbara (not sure tho but it was a healer), Itto, and I forgot the last one. Anyway, Itto player died. Then they chatted, "where's the heal?" I wasn't the healer but I kinda got offended cause I know how hard the healers work and they can't control everything. (I often play as Yaoyao in my main acc.) So I replied, "bro you got one-shotted." Then to not seem rude, I added, "Be careful. Big damage here." The Itto player just left. 😂
Omg, i remember in scaramouche boss fight someone took a raiden and i took a kazuha. No one took a healer. Anyways the raiden person died alongside someone else and it was only me (kazuha) and someone playing as nahida left. And the raiden player has the nerve to say that we were losing cause someone 'decided to take kazuha' so i was like, 'we're losing cause someone decided to take raiden in a boss that has electro resistance' and that im a support and what are they doing other than being dead and useless. anyways me and the nahida killed the scaramouche and they left. Lol people be blaming whoever for their own skill issue, if u want to not die so bad be the healer yourself.
dheya's the one making ur hps low bc of burning and now they gonna blame it on the healer💀💀
The thing i regret is that i don't have C6 qiqi to revive people 😅 and i use mainly her to heal
P.S: i didn't build Barbara, so yep
Barbara doesn't revive players in co-op sadly, only characters from your own party
@@_HuaCheng oh rip haha i don't use her anyway so 😅
Love how this German guy just called himself Behörde XD die Behörde schaut immer zu 👁️👁️
one time, i played kokomi against apep and died. i was out of stamina trying to sprint to different players to heal them with my jellyfish. so i got oneshotted by that one attack. and this alhaitham main got mad and went "are you serious?" jesus man, i have a cooldown too yknow. maybe if you stopped rushing into attacks and knew when to back away, i could have healed yall better
ppl like that player is the reason why i don't play coop when i fight with bosses. as a sensitive person, that kind of person is not welcome in my world 😔
I am a believer that people should be responsible for their own health. while having a healer is wonderful on the team you was a player should be responsible for yourself in co-op sure mistakes happen and people die in spite of their being a healer (again it's really not that deep it's just game you can always try again like??) but I've found that the main reason that people do is because of resklessness (naturally not all cases things just happen you know) people depend solely on the healer which applies a bunch of pressure on to them and keep in mind they also have to deal with cool downs and sometimes mistakes they make in terms of when choosing to heal and manage everyone's hp bar and if you're just charging forward it might and in most occasions will, affect you.
So my take from this is yes you can rely on healers in co-op but you are also responsible for keeping yourself alive! Don't accuse someone else when you know that you could have just played it safe and dodged or backed away for a moment
Man, Baizhu is one reason why my Nahida become amazing damage dealer
Sometimes people in coop wil forget to dodge when they have a healer, they will going unga bunga then die and blame the healer loll
Also if you use baizhu c0 you have to maintain the timing when you use your skill or ulti and always focus on everyone hp, it's kinda hard that you have to dodge and focusing on everyone health, also baizhu normal attacks range is too small thats why baizhu don't have to keep attacking the enemies (also the dmg is not that great) just focus to keep yourself and teammates alive.
I always bring my baizhu c0 to coop (raiden boss too) and never get my teammates died, I use sand er (49k hp) so my ultimate is always ready.
I get this all the time. People see me main Jean and think it's a free pass to just button mash.
If they didn't suck, her passive healing, blow by blow, would still keep them afloat.
If that 'healer' is remotely competent, they'll still win it for the group if they had some patience, in the *worst*-case scenario where everybody else drops.
It be what it do; The 10+ minutes it'll be to drop out and re-visit the domain is more appealing than the 5 minutes for the healer to solo the boss while the others wait, I guess.
Kek.
The guy plays overwatch... ofc he blames the healer
I love that you guys defended the healer! Also yes, that's the wrong combo for Alhaitham 😅 usually you want to mantain three mirrors as much as possible. You could do something like burst, attack until third mirror runs out, hold E up to plunge, attack, etc etc depending on your build. Don't do E then burst because that will consume the mirrors. Also you want more charged attacks in your combo for max damage. I am actually practicing this combo for my spread team. Good luck!
As a Baizhu main myself, never insult a healer in co-op! If you do, I'm switching to DPS Baizhu without telling you, we can be quite petty.
Nice vid as always ^^
This...i remembered someone in childe (lvl 90 childe, they brought in lvl 60 beidou), died because there was a nilou in the team..and they were like "WHeRes ThE HeaL?" And left..like bro..i saw your hp went from red to green fron my heals then you got one shotted. Even cyno confirmed it was the counterattack from nilou's dmg
I am hf of the time a Kokomi main in domain because nobody bring an healer or a good one.
I was also a toxic person who used to play a lot of Fps in the past and for some reason now I'm calm. But WHENEVER SOMEONE DIE BECAUSE DOESN'T STAY NEAR THE JELLYFISH I have an insane way to mock at them. I'm a troller healer I guess
Burning against raiden is instant death
Damn there are still people who blame others in co-op!!!
Brings Pyro. Stands in all attacks, blames healer. This is why I build my healers as hybrids in every game- do stupid stuff your mortality is not my concern.
I had someone blame the healer in one of my coops in signora's domain but it was entirely their fault cause they keep on going out the radius of the heater/cooler😭
Dang these people not knowing his skill AND burst has a CD and he can't just pop it as soon as it greens. If you want those kind of healer, get Barbara or Qiqi (as they heal you as long as you attack the enemy non-stop) - Kuki if you're going to punch the bosses face to face.
I use Baizhu in coop most of the time but during Azhdaha and new Dendro Boss I mostly use Barbara especially after learning (by getting wiped out) that some of my teammates still doesn't know to get inside the dendro dome
bro same thing happened to me when someone was using diluc to fight the dendro dragon! wouldn’t have had to heal so much if he wasn’t burning everyone
hey just a random question what device do you play genshin on? what phone/tablet is that?
someone on ar 58 did this too while the healer is ar 50, they were cursing at the healer but the ar 58 is the only one that died... they cursed at me and everyone after I said they just suck at dodging LOL
Just tell people to not pair dendro with pyro. That's what I do in my co-op experiences. Even though people ignore my advice
I remember when i was playing coop and some ayaka died first and said something like: " Great damage team. Really great. " and she left. I was wondering what was her problem.
The only time I have any input on the healer is when I'm playing co-op with my friend. My catchphrase then is "Where's the Jellyfish!!??". At least he used a healer, we should be happy that Baizhu was there...
I mean they are kinda right... Baizhu makes any team literally invicible
When the guy blamed baizhu i felt attacked, because I'm always him in co-op and when my friends dies they never blame me
I don’t criticize the healer, ever, I know it’s hard to heal up to 4 people at one time, and most of the time healers have a radius, so when I die in domains I’m apologetic,
Dude : *Blame the healer*
The same dude : *Plays Dehya* ... sigh
That Baizhu is at least C1, he had two charges of his skill, and he’s doing really good heals. He has either got crazy artifacts or almost crowned or fully crowned skill/burst. Definitely not healer issue. I love playing healer and people are so annoying when they blame the healer for getting one shorted or using burn/overload reactions.
*one shotted
OMFG IM MAKING ONE BUT ITS FAKE (ill say it in tjhe desc if i post it, i saw u did a fake one (I THINK IT WAS U IDK) ill give credits)
Funny how game says that Co-op makes bosses easier... No, thats actually opposite. Doing bosses solo its a lot easier than doing them in co-op.
I was surprised one time when my Yoimiya literally BURNED all enemies I came across in open world. It now only takes a few hits for her to take them down. This was confusing because I actually just ranked up my world. Then I realized it was because I ascended my Baizhu and opened all his talents.
Also note that I built him as pure healer. His healing bonus totals to 65% with only one 5* artifact (the rest are purples).
People better think twice before blaming the healer.. they could decide whether you live or die any point of the week
If ur gonna blame healers because you keep tanking every goddamn attack then be your own goddamn healer ??
Tip for alhaitham: try using ur skill slightly off the ground so you plunge attack and attack twice with 3 mirrors instead of attacking 1 with 3 and 1 with 2
Bro at 5:20 it looked like Alhaitham is god with all powers
Believe or not, i just know that we can friendly fire by burning reaction lmao
So true😢
Also first🤓
Exactly why i get mad when people pair Alhaitham with bennet in co-op
Everytime I use kokomi i feel like I'm the only one actually trying there. Everytime I put the fish at a place close to them that the enemy won't reach immediately and they can get 2 seconds to heal these idiots just walk straight infront of the enemy and dies.
I've yet to meet someone that blames me for their stupidity but it still baffles me after playing there game for over 2 years there are still players like that
They either died from burning or from overload
moral of the story: don’t bring a character who can inflict pyro for the team 💀
especially when it’s raiden or apep boss