This is a great review of rabbet (I'm American) planes. I'm fortunate to have my dad's fully intact Stanley No. 78. He worked as a carpenter in the 50s and 60s, before my time. So I never had the opportunity to watch him use it. Now I know that my 78 is complete, I can proceed with finding a project that needs its services. Thanks for doing this video!
. Once I got into planes & hand tools I just cant get enough Im retired local 132 & switched from power to hand tools & Just enjoy the entire process & people ive meet w/ the same interest as myself. idk its my little piece of heaven. Thnx to all whove helped me & or others.
Man I feel really fortunate after watching this video. I found a Stanley 78 made in England in the box fully intact and literally brand new looking for 75 bucks on Etsy. The box looks pretty old. I just used it a whole bunch making a cover for a digital piano. The thing works like a dream.
another great video michael! an old 78 was my first old handplane from an antique flea market 15 years ago! as it turns out, based on your video, i was extremely lucky
Good video about the components of a rebate/rabbet/fillister plane. Couple of things I don't see in your videos is anything about the blades & getting replacements or their interchangeability between planes or brands. A 2nd point you could add is talking about the depth adjustment lever. I recently acquired a rabbet plane and only discovered the thing was damaged in a subtle but unuseable way...the spur on the adjustment lever which engages with the blade notches had been sheared off by someone who force adjusted the blade depth without loosening the lever cap screw! Fortunately I was able to get a blob of tack welding on there then reshape the lever to working condition again. Something you might want to cover.
@@justplanefun thanks but I managed to repair mine and I doubt you would have one. I own a WS Tools branded A78 rebate plane made around 1951 in England. It looks like a copy of a Stanley no 78 but a little different.
Hi: Check out Wikipedia: the carpenter's plane is called "Rabot" in French, "Ribot" in Catalan, "Cepillo de carpintero" in Spaniard and in Latin, the language of the Roman Empire, "Runcina". Very interesting video. I'm waiting for an English Record, 078 which is equivalent to the Stanley 78. In Spain (Europe) Urko still makes high quality planes with wooden bodies. Bests Regards: David.
You could throw a washer behind the depth stop screw if you use the fence thumb screw. I have both the craftsman and Stanley. I really like the craftsman plane a lot. It works really well. It’s one of the few that do. I kinda have like 10 of these. Thank you very much for the video. I also like the union version. Very versatile plane! Easy to set up and use. Just make sure the blade is sharp and the nicker is down for a cross grain cut and it will be an easy go!
Enjoyed the video. I just wish you had made mention of the nicker spur. I just finished restoring a Stanley 191. I made a depth stop and screw but haven't attempted to make the spur just yet.
Excellent video MJ! I need to pull my grandfather's Craftsman version out and see if I have all the parts for it. You shared a ton of useful information here, thank you!
Got a Stanley 4 (Type 17) and 7 corregated. Just picked up a Stanley 192. I see a tongue and groove plane in my future, probably a Lie Nielson. Want a router plane. Does it ever end? These videos are quite helpful in many ways.
@@justplanefun Please do. I looked at my threads, 2 out of 3 messed up. Spur is stuck. No bueno. The good parts on it are worth what I paid for it, so no real loss other than the joy I get from making old junk work again. I have almost 30 others back in action.
The millers falls is #85 but you probably know that by now,is there a number # for the craftsman? I know millers made some mine has craftsman iron but on the depth side there is no number or anything where as the millers i have says #85
Hey Michael, I have a complete #79 Sargent plane but it has no depth adjustment. To be clear not missing just not in the casting. Is there a Sargent version with the depth adjust and if so how must for the casting alone? Cheers, Jeff
@ to be clear I need a casting I can transfer everything from my existing Sargent #79 to one that has the depth adjustment lever. Did Sargent copy that feature as well? Jeff
ruclips.net/video/QEUWKuRjhw0/видео.html This video covers the various SW trademarks. Specifically for the bench planes but Stanley tended to use the same trademark across multiple tools during a given timeframe
Thank you. I found a Stanley # 190 in my collection of stuff, I must have picked it up several years ago. It has the groove for the depth stop but not the fence. I am thinking this is an early version. The blade and cap are in nice shape, the nipper looks to be fine too. I asked last week about some parts for a Sargent plane. Can you PM me so that we can chat about availability of parts.
Really appreciate this video, it was very informative. Found two of these planes at a flea market. Later gave one away, but kept the Stanley No. 78. Thought I would be able to find & replace missing parts, but that has not worked out. I am not on FB or twitter. Could not find a website or email for you. Please advise.
I would like to send you a photo of a vintage metal rabbit plane with no identifcation as to who made it, and most interesting the blade which came with it is shapened like a knife. Please help us ID it: ... OORAH!!
I haven’t personally tried to add a wooden fence to one but I reckon it would be doable. Have you worked with a No45 yet? Those can do rabbets too and have a larger fence.
Hi, the depth stop for me to buy on line from USA. IS $68.00 plus $35 postage American, add change over $120 all tolled. I live in AUSTRALIA. so it all ways best to buy fully complete. cheers
sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?85602-Rabbet-Fillister This is a pretty good thread. Some conflicting points here but i would rather have that than everyone agreeing on the wrong thing
@@justplanefun Direct from "The Superior Works: Patrick's Blood and Gore", #78 Duplex filletster and rabbet plane, 8 1/2"L (8 1/4", 1936 on), 1 1/2"W, 3lbs, 1885-1973.
Hi if a video is interesting time length is not an issue, fwd. is, if I have to sit here and watch fwd. I wont. I like long videos that have substance. cheers from Tasmania
Thank you. I just purchased a Craftsman. The box hasNo. 3730 printed on it. I need a depth stop screw and a fence rod. Can you respond with contact information so I can contact you?
This is a great review of rabbet (I'm American) planes. I'm fortunate to have my dad's fully intact Stanley No. 78. He worked as a carpenter in the 50s and 60s, before my time. So I never had the opportunity to watch him use it. Now I know that my 78 is complete, I can proceed with finding a project that needs its services. Thanks for doing this video!
Thanks for watching! Swing by any of the hand plane / woodworking groups on FB and show us your project!
The Hybrid Woodworker is a great one
. Once I got into planes & hand tools I just cant get enough Im retired local 132 & switched from power to hand tools & Just enjoy the entire process & people ive meet w/ the same interest as myself. idk its my little piece of heaven. Thnx to all whove helped me & or others.
Thanks for following along on this journey! Happy to have you
Man I feel really fortunate after watching this video. I found a Stanley 78 made in England in the box fully intact and literally brand new looking for 75 bucks on Etsy. The box looks pretty old. I just used it a whole bunch making a cover for a digital piano. The thing works like a dream.
Sounds like a solid deal. Even better when you’re able to use it and produce great results!
another great video michael! an old 78 was my first old handplane from an antique flea market 15 years ago! as it turns out, based on your video, i was extremely lucky
Good video about the components of a rebate/rabbet/fillister plane.
Couple of things I don't see in your videos is anything about the blades & getting replacements or their interchangeability between planes or brands. A 2nd point you could add is talking about the depth adjustment lever. I recently acquired a rabbet plane and only discovered the thing was damaged in a subtle but unuseable way...the spur on the adjustment lever which engages with the blade notches had been sheared off by someone who force adjusted the blade depth without loosening the lever cap screw! Fortunately I was able to get a blob of tack welding on there then reshape the lever to working condition again. Something you might want to cover.
Good call. I’ll definitely keep that in mind.
Also - if you want to replace that lever, I have plenty of them in stock
@@justplanefun thanks but I managed to repair mine and I doubt you would have one. I own a WS Tools branded A78 rebate plane made around 1951 in England. It looks like a copy of a Stanley no 78 but a little different.
Hi:
Check out Wikipedia: the carpenter's plane is called "Rabot" in French, "Ribot" in Catalan, "Cepillo de carpintero" in Spaniard and in Latin, the language of the Roman Empire, "Runcina".
Very interesting video. I'm waiting for an English Record, 078 which is equivalent to the Stanley 78.
In Spain (Europe) Urko still makes high quality planes with wooden bodies.
Bests Regards: David.
Great Advice!!! Bob
You could throw a washer behind the depth stop screw if you use the fence thumb screw. I have both the craftsman and Stanley. I really like the craftsman plane a lot. It works really well. It’s one of the few that do. I kinda have like 10 of these. Thank you very much for the video. I also like the union version. Very versatile plane! Easy to set up and use. Just make sure the blade is sharp and the nicker is down for a cross grain cut and it will be an easy go!
Excellent, once again.
Thanks!
Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Enjoyed the video. I just wish you had made mention of the nicker spur. I just finished restoring a Stanley 191. I made a depth stop and screw but haven't attempted to make the spur just yet.
I have those original spurs available for sale if you’re interested.
Excellent video MJ! I need to pull my grandfather's Craftsman version out and see if I have all the parts for it. You shared a ton of useful information here, thank you!
Let me know. I have a few Craftsman parts around
Great video, MJ! Thanks!
Thank *you!
Thanks for the video Michael! I now know my 78 is complete but not all Stanley. It's got a Sargent fence.
That’s great news! That Sargent fence will work just fine I suspect. But if you ever want to pick up a Stanley fence, I know a guy…
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Got a Stanley 4 (Type 17) and 7 corregated. Just picked up a Stanley 192. I see a tongue and groove plane in my future, probably a Lie Nielson. Want a router plane. Does it ever end? These videos are quite helpful in many ways.
I sure hope it never ends - if it does, I might go out of business 😅
very helpful guide
Thanks Derek!
Great information! I will try to email you about the parts needed for my No. 78. Oh. Only FB? I don't FB.
I’m mjtoo on Instagram and mjthetoolguy on Reddit. If neither of those work, post your email address here and I’ll reach out
@@justplanefun
Please do. I looked at my threads, 2 out of 3 messed up. Spur is stuck. No bueno. The good parts on it are worth what I paid for it, so no real loss other than the joy I get from making old junk work again. I have almost 30 others back in action.
The millers falls is #85 but you probably know that by now,is there a number # for the craftsman? I know millers made some mine has craftsman iron but on the depth side there is no number or anything where as the millers i have says #85
Craftsman 3730
Hey Michael, I have a complete #79 Sargent plane but it has no depth adjustment. To be clear not missing just not in the casting. Is there a Sargent version with the depth adjust and if so how must for the casting alone? Cheers, Jeff
Shoot me some pics to jplanefun@gmail.com and I’ll see if I can match it
@ to be clear I need a casting I can transfer everything from my existing Sargent #79 to one that has the depth adjustment lever. Did Sargent copy that feature as well? Jeff
MJ, are the depth stops same for Stanley 190-193 rabbet planes? Nice video.
Yes sir. They sure are
Thank you for your interesting videos. I have one question : how to date a Stanley Sweathart plane ?
ruclips.net/video/QEUWKuRjhw0/видео.html
This video covers the various SW trademarks. Specifically for the bench planes but Stanley tended to use the same trademark across multiple tools during a given timeframe
Thank you. I found a Stanley # 190 in my collection of stuff, I must have picked it up several years ago. It has the groove for the depth stop but not the fence. I am thinking this is an early version. The blade and cap are in nice shape, the nipper looks to be fine too. I asked last week about some parts for a Sargent plane. Can you PM me so that we can chat about availability of parts.
I looked for you on FB messenger but there are too many Thomas Greens. Email me at jplanefun@gmail.com and we’ll set up comm from there.
I have the 190 as well. It does not come with a fence, only a depth stop. If you want a fence, you need to get a 78.
I have a 78 made by Record, does anyone know if a Stanley fence arm would fit it?
You might reach out to Eric O’Grey on Facebook. He may know
Really appreciate this video, it was very informative. Found two of these planes at a flea market. Later gave one away, but kept the Stanley No. 78. Thought I would be able to find & replace missing parts, but that has not worked out. I am not on FB or twitter. Could not find a website or email for you. Please advise.
You can email me at jplanefun@gmail.com
@@justplanefun Thanks! I will.
I would like to send you a photo of a vintage metal rabbit plane with no identifcation as to who made it, and most interesting the blade which came with it is shapened like a knife. Please help us ID it: ... OORAH!!
Email me at jplanefun@gmail.com
Any luck with retapping the rode posts and adding a wooden fence?
I haven’t personally tried to add a wooden fence to one but I reckon it would be doable. Have you worked with a No45 yet? Those can do rabbets too and have a larger fence.
Is it suitable for board for an amateur?
It sure could be. That’s how we all start out, right?
@@justplanefun thanks
Hi, the depth stop for me to buy on line from USA. IS $68.00 plus $35 postage American, add change over $120 all tolled. I live in AUSTRALIA. so it all ways best to buy fully complete. cheers
That’s a fair point. Fortunately you have some folks in Australia selling tools too. That saves on shipping
Sorry I just can't get uses to calling it a Rabbit plane 😅
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I always thought that the fillister planes were because they had the nipping blade on the depth stop side for cross grain work
sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?85602-Rabbet-Fillister
This is a pretty good thread. Some conflicting points here but i would rather have that than everyone agreeing on the wrong thing
@@justplanefun Direct from "The Superior Works: Patrick's Blood and Gore", #78 Duplex filletster and rabbet plane, 8 1/2"L (8 1/4", 1936 on), 1 1/2"W, 3lbs, 1885-1973.
Hi if a video is interesting time length is not an issue, fwd. is, if I have to sit here and watch fwd. I wont. I like long videos that have substance. cheers from Tasmania
Thanks!
Rabbit plane's 🐇 🐰 🐇 Hahaha lol rebate plane in English lol 😆
Filletster
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Thank you. I just purchased a Craftsman. The box hasNo. 3730 printed on it. I need a depth stop screw and a fence rod. Can you respond with contact information so I can contact you?
You can email me at: jplanefun@gmail.com
Thank you 🙏🏻