"You're lucky Anakin didn't show up, the way you're fighting, you wouldn't have lasted long" People look at this, and think Ahsoka grew up? This is dialogue that CONFIRMS that she's still as immature as she always was! What the hell do people see in this show that I don't?
IIRC, Bo-Katan fought pretty hard against the Empire, so Ahsoka helping put her in power can't really be blamed to any extent for the Empire eventually taking control 🤔 Unless you're referring to Ahsoka doing nothing to prevent Order 66?
@@imyouralibi6208 Huh? Alright, then I misremember. I thought that some of the Republic had stayed there. At least that's what they claimed in Rebels recon.
Bo-Tox-Karen is to blame for Mandalore being "nuked" because that entitled narc could not live with the Empire - a greater power - bossing her around. Saxon´s group was doing fine. He did for the people of Mandalore much more than Bo-Tox who loves to throw around "my people" every time it suits her. It is obvious she didn´t rebel against the Imps for moral reasons because she has no morals. She is a sadistic monster who enjoys to enslave and abuse innocent people and burn their homes to feel powerful. She was the 2nd in command of a space Na*i/ISIS which existed only to dethrone and unalive her sister, but the moment her scheming failed she whined and pretended how much she cared about her to avoid prison and possibly execution. Her dead sister is her leverage. It is so disgusting I don´t even have words for it.
She talks so much about the people of Mandalore, but...has she ever even been to Mandalore before? Or had any positive experiences with someone there? Heck, if this finale had been the Siege of Onderon or Raxus or something, maybe it would make more sense.
I think she was there *once* during that episode where she begrudgingly taught a class there. But that's never mentioned in this arc and she didn't really bond that deeply with anyone there, in fact, she never mentions them again. Nor did she express any interest in Mandalorian culture. But that's irrelevant anyways because that's not the culture Ahsoka's even helping. No, she's helping the extremist faction who wanted to topple the old government take power again. So maybe she just *really* hated her time there after all, lol.
Bo-Tox also talks so much about "my people, sob, sob" despite the fact she massacred plenty of them during her scheming to overthrown her sister and later Maul. The whole last arc serves only as grrrrlpower pr0-pag-anda, to put Bo-Tox into the position of power she doesn´t deserve in the slightest, and to keep Ahwoka alive so she would mess up with the events of the OT.
Well, I have a theory why Maul sucks so much in TCW. The fact is that he does not have the lower half of his body, which means that he is technically castrated. Thus, the fact that he sucks even in a fight with a half-educated Padawan is not another indicator of Ahsoka’s Mary Suesness, it is a descriptive confirmation of Maul’s condition. How conceptual. Amazing
Yet he overpowers Obi-Wan just fine without his legs almost every single time in this show. EVEN WITH THE DROID LEGS Please stop making excuses for the writers...
Hey you two ^^ A great review as usual - The more Ahsoka and by extention TCW are exposed - the more it becomes obvious how bad it really is And people like that stuff so much?! The wrting is so devoid of logic and common sense - it's painful Great work :3
It's now canon that Ahsoka leaving the Order helped flip Anakin to the Dark Side. So this means that after her trial, if she just swallowed the bullet and accepted the promotion the Council dangled in front of her face and stayed with Anakin, she could've probably helped influence Anakin to stay on the path of the Light and NOT fall to the Dark Side. So even when Filoni tries to make Ahsoka this benevolent saint, he fails in that regard, and Ahsoka just comes off as a selfish brat whose decision to leave helped drown the galaxy in darkness.
I wouldn't give Ahsoka so much credit as assuming she could've prevented Anakin's turn to the dark side. That's exactly the kind of thing Filoni *wants* us to think by making it canon that Ahsoka's absence influenced Anakin to turn. I call bull on all of it. But yeah, Ahsoka is still 100% a selfish brat for leaving the Order. And the biggest reason doesn't even have anything to do with Anakin but rather with the *ongoing war* she's choosing NOT to help in.
@@imyouralibi6208 I would call bull on all of it too, it seems more like Anakin's politics and his desire to not lose anyone is what caused him to fall. But in the ''official'' canon that Filoni now controls, it's Ahsoka's fault that everything went to crap. Even when he tries to make Ahsoka the center of the universe, Filoni fails and makes her the cause of every tragedy in ROTS and beyond.
@@russianoverkill3715 Selfish.......the man would literally damn himself to save others. That's the opposite to selfish. A selfish man wouldn't care if his wife is dying.
@@russianoverkill3715 The man would literally damn himself to save others. If he was selfish, he'd react to Padme potentially dying by getting a new girlfriend.
The fact that Maul thinks Ahsoka is enough for him as a partner against Sidious goes to show Filoni's fanboyism over his creation. Last time Maul took on Sidious, he had a stronger ally in Savage Oppress, a monster who was capable of killing Jedi Masters. And they still lost. If Maul and Ahsoka went after Sidious, you can expect both of them to wind up as smoked ham by the end of the day.
@@imyouralibi6208 I can imagine a scenario where Ahsoka was fool enough to accept Maul's proposal, only for Sidious to defeat them easily and string them up, periodically tormenting them with Force Lightning. Vader negotiates for Ahsoka's release, but he leaves Maul with Sidious, who then asks his former apprentice "What made you think it would have worked this time?" as Maul is painfully transformed into a Sith Stalker Assassin.
I can’t believe that I have to actually say this, but Maul obviously doesn’t think he can take Sidious, even with an ally. He just wants an ally and offering to go stop Sidious is just him trying to “sweeten the deal”
@@guaty4788Like I said, you're too dense to understand anything they said. Literally me, a teenager, understood everything they said. And none of it was "inaccurate" or "nonsense", I'm inclined to think you just think it is, because it isn't what you wanted to hear.
Not really. We have a loose idea for maybe analyzing the Legend of Zelda games, but otherwise, neither of us has expressed an interest in exploring that particular avenue 🤔🤷♀
Clearly you two cant fully grasp whats going on here like 99 percent of other people who watched this...We have something called the force ever heard of it? Maul knows about Sideous turning Skywalker because he had a force vision plus he is Sideous former apprentice and he already knows bits and parts of his plan.Did you even watch Phantom Menace? Also why is your channel dedicated to hatting on a fictional character mostly Ahsoka in particular? You might as well change your channel name already because its clear there is an unhealthy obsession with her like what the hell did she do to yall? 😂😂😂😂Go get some vitamin D in your life...You two gotta be trolling or acting at this point there is no way you two can have such a poor take...
Uh huh, so you're clearly ignoring context, like you people do all the time. How is Maul having this vision? Or are we just going to ignore that Maul doesn't even know who Anakin is. They met once, 13 YEARS AGO, when he was a CHILD. "Why is your channel dedicated to hating a character like Ahsoka" To show people like you that she is a Mary Sue. But of course you got a bias for her, and will ignore that. "What did she do to y'all?" Be a poorly written character that is unnecessarily praised by people who lack media literacy. Looks like you're one of them. "Go get some Vitamin D in your life" Take your own advice. Man was so butthurt, he made an ignorant essay on personally attacking random strangers for their knowledge of writing that he clearly doesn't have himself. "You two have such a poor take" Look in the mirror.
It's was idea of Anakin to promote Capitan Rex to Commander and give him Ahsoka as his advisor to skip the legal part she's no longer in authority to command clones into battlefield while in reality she commands them. Officially in Republic documents it's Rex who commanded 501 legion into Mandalore with Ahsoka at his side Unofficially it's Ahsoka who commanded 501 legion into Mandalore with Rex at her side. So Ahsoka calling for more reinforcement from Kenobi is not idiotic because he agreed to this Anakin idea in the first place. The whole thing is nepotism aganist Jedi Conscil and Senat, very Anakin thing to do. Ahsoka won with Maul only because he was too cocky, like all Sith. Focusing too much of being the victor leads to being blind to what is right under their nose and Ahsoka used that aganist him. It happend many times in Star Wars since New Hope with Vader and Palpatine. And do I have to mention that Star Wars intended target always has been KIDS? Because in OT Vader is "ooo, I am bad guy here that also wants to overthrow the one controlling me if somebody will help and then I wil do evil control myself, ooo" (which is exactly what Maul wants since the beginning, he wants power more and more like Anakin) and OT Palpatine is "ooo, I am controlling the bad guy so I am the worst bad guy here, ooo, strike me down because something, ooo, let myself killed in the most absurdal way possible by Vader when I don't want it, oooo" If you REALLY think about it, whole Star Wars is GARBAGE whenever it's solely about religions stuff such as Jedi and Sith. It's ironic to hear that by Tarkin and Thrawn in-universe words. It's the reason why Andor feels amazing because it doesn't focus on the religion nonsens that Tony Gilroy doesn't like, everything but that. It's not different to real life religious wars by which they got inspired. Does anyone find religious wars to be logical like any war? If it's not war about religion nonsens stuff, it's about wealth or getting into power. Quite real life. And In The Clone Wars all these 3 aspects were happening. And about Bo-Katan Kryze, it's little more complicated. 7000 BBY Mandalore born as a nation that invades other nations to survive, inspired by Mongols, Vikings in real life. They never create stuff by themselves but invade to steal. It's not idealistic government because it creates itself many, many enemies and and very easy can collapse which exactly what happend, like with Alexander The Great. From that point of Mandalore, House Kryze turned Mandalore's goverment into democracy but it also became pacifist nation in response to their past, made them very easy to be conquered. Satine Kryze is a pacifist after all. Their opposition Death Watch saw it rightfully as a flaw but wanted to bring back Mongol times into Mandalore in response. Mandalore was divided into too peacful and too violent political parties, neither ideal like exactly Jedi and Sith. After Bo-Katan Kryze lost her past leader Pre Vizsla and her sister Satine, leaders of both radical parties, she reflected on herself about it before season 7. [Bo-Katan] You actually captured him. I'm impressed. [Ahsoka] That is what the council wanted. [Bo-Katan] Still. You succeed where many have failed. [Ahsoka] I've learned from the best, including you. [Bo-Katan] I wish I was good at something other than war. (mongol times weren't great) [Ahsoka] Your people need a new kind of leader. [Bo-Katan] My sister tried that. I never understood her idealism. (pacifist times weren't great) In The Rebel times Bo-Katan felt she was part of the Mandalore failure. Whenever it was pacifist times, mongol times, together they were strong and great nation but they were divided at that time. She didn't have any hope to bring back Mandalorians together. Sabine gave her hope. In The Mandalorian times Bo-Katan wanted to get darksaber to take revenge on Empire for betraying all Mandalorians, to try to bring Mandalorians together again. Din Djarin used technicality to giver her darksaber. And then darksaber became a relic of the past, got destroyed but Mandalorians remained together without it. You could say this part of The Mandalorian season 3 should have happen in The Rebels already but it couldn't happen due to OT, Galactic Empire cannot collapse by Mandos, it's Luke story. The other thing is getting darksaber debut in live action. And what's a problem with doing it again after Galactic Empire collapsed with Empire remnant of Gideon when real life history has examples of getting a divided nation full again and again like Poland or China because of civil wars. Let's just hope it's the end of Mandalorian civil wars in Star Wars after The Mandalorian S3 because doing yet again and again will make it more like China, and will makes us audience be bored.
“Unofficially it's Ahsoka who commanded 501 legion into Mandalore with Rex at her side.” If you were paying attention, it’s quite clear in the video that we’re fully aware of that. But that doesn’t make her order for more reinforcements any less idiotic. The GAR shouldn’t be on Mandalore. Period. The fact that Kenobi agreed to it in the first place is idiotic. Ahsoka now asking for more troops to aid an invasion that shouldn’t be happening is thus more idiotic. If one is trying to use official resources to do something unofficially, they shouldn’t expect to be given more official resources to get the job done. “Ahsoka won with Maul only because he was too cocky” Maul was arrogant in his fight with Obi Wan in TPM, and he lost because Obi Wan surprised him. Whereas, against Ahsoka, he loses because he gives up his advantage and she overpowers him. He wasn’t being “too cocky”, he was nerfed for the sake of the Mary Sue. “Star Wars intended target always has been KIDS” What’s your point? “It's not different to real life religious wars by which they got inspired.” Star Wars wasn’t inspired by religious wars. Do some research. “[Mandalore was] inspired by Mongols, Vikings in real life. They never create stuff by themselves but invade to steal.” Again, you clearly need to do some research, because a) the influences for the Mandalorian culture was not the Mongols or even solely the Vikings, it was a mix of several warrior cultures, and b) the Vikings certainly had their own share of inventions and innovations, and the Mongolian culture is deeper and more nuanced than you’re giving it credit for. “It's not idealistic government because it creates itself many, many enemies and very easy can collapse which exactly what happend, like with Alexander The Great” The Macedonian Empire didn’t fall because of having many, many enemies. Do some research. “Satine Kryze is a pacifist after all.” TCW’s portrayal of pacifism is completely lacking any nuance and honestly comes off as strawmanning. If it is your sole source of understanding the concept, do some research. “After Bo-Katan Kryze lost her past leader Pre Vizsla and her sister Satine… she reflected on herself about it before season 7.” Headcanon. Your interpretation of her conversation is not supported by anything shown in the content. I have yet to see Rebels, and I stopped watching The Mandalorian after S2. So I can’t comment on your assertions there, but they aren’t relevant to a discussion of TCW’s content anyway. “doing [civil wars] again and again will make it more like China, and will makes us audience be bored” I can’t help but notice you seem to be contradicting yourself. Because earlier you said that borrowing influences from real life makes SW bad (“whole Star Wars is GARBAGE whenever it's solely about religions stuff… Andor feels amazing because it doesn't focus on the religion nonsense”), but then you seemed to imply that borrowing influences from real life is what makes TCW’s content great (“Quite real life. And In The Clone Wars all these 3 aspects were happening.”), and yet now you’re again saying that borrowing from real life would make SW bad… ? ~ M.E.
Alexander the Great's empire didn't fall apart until after his death when it was divided up by his generals who began fighting amongst themselves. Yes, Alexander had many enemies, but he was far from stupid when it came to dealing with them. Alexander was taught by Aristotle after all. We also don't know for sure how he died. All we know is that he got sick while on campaign and died on his way back to Macedonia. Also, Mongols and Vikings were very creative and inventive in their own right. The Mongols, living in the harsh conditions that they were, had to be creative to survive and it's the same with the Vikings. Despite this, both cultures found ways to not only survive but thrive. There are hypotheses that the Vikings had trade routes all the way to the Middle East. If you're going to bring history to an argument at least look up the basics.
Bo-Tox-Karen is a self-serving narcissistic sociopath who lies and manipulates all the time to gain power. She has never changed. Not even slightly. There is nothing complicated about that villain. The only complicated thing is the lack of moral compass in Pukasfilm which results in people like Felony being in charge of Star Wars and promoting evil to impressionable kids.
Nah, it's actually apparent that Filoni has you fans on a tight leash, praising him and his horrible writing. Nor did you watch or understand the video which you commented on.
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32:10 What?! I thought Jar Jar is the key to all of this, not Anakin! And he's barely even in this show!
Great Video! 🍻 Another way Filoni tries to undo the importance of George Lucas canon , the prequel movies AND Anakin & Luke
"You're lucky Anakin didn't show up, the way you're fighting, you wouldn't have lasted long"
People look at this, and think Ahsoka grew up? This is dialogue that CONFIRMS that she's still as immature as she always was!
What the hell do people see in this show that I don't?
The secret is ✨headcanon✨
You know, I just realised something. Ahsoka's partially to blame for the fact Sabine Wren had to grow up under Imperial Rule.
IIRC, Bo-Katan fought pretty hard against the Empire, so Ahsoka helping put her in power can't really be blamed to any extent for the Empire eventually taking control 🤔
Unless you're referring to Ahsoka doing nothing to prevent Order 66?
@@imyouralibi6208 I mean the fact that Ahsoka insisted on bringing the Republic to Mandalore, and the Republic became the Empire.
@@auditect950 I mean, she and the Republic forces left as soon as they had Maul tho
@@imyouralibi6208 Huh? Alright, then I misremember. I thought that some of the Republic had stayed there.
At least that's what they claimed in Rebels recon.
Bo-Tox-Karen is to blame for Mandalore being "nuked" because that entitled narc could not live with the Empire - a greater power - bossing her around. Saxon´s group was doing fine. He did for the people of Mandalore much more than Bo-Tox who loves to throw around "my people" every time it suits her.
It is obvious she didn´t rebel against the Imps for moral reasons because she has no morals. She is a sadistic monster who enjoys to enslave and abuse innocent people and burn their homes to feel powerful. She was the 2nd in command of a space Na*i/ISIS which existed only to dethrone and unalive her sister, but the moment her scheming failed she whined and pretended how much she cared about her to avoid prison and possibly execution. Her dead sister is her leverage. It is so disgusting I don´t even have words for it.
She talks so much about the people of Mandalore, but...has she ever even been to Mandalore before? Or had any positive experiences with someone there?
Heck, if this finale had been the Siege of Onderon or Raxus or something, maybe it would make more sense.
I think she was there *once* during that episode where she begrudgingly taught a class there. But that's never mentioned in this arc and she didn't really bond that deeply with anyone there, in fact, she never mentions them again. Nor did she express any interest in Mandalorian culture.
But that's irrelevant anyways because that's not the culture Ahsoka's even helping. No, she's helping the extremist faction who wanted to topple the old government take power again. So maybe she just *really* hated her time there after all, lol.
@@nmjjmn663 Oh, right, I forgot about that episode! She even met Almec in that!
Bo-Tox also talks so much about "my people, sob, sob" despite the fact she massacred plenty of them during her scheming to overthrown her sister and later Maul.
The whole last arc serves only as grrrrlpower pr0-pag-anda, to put Bo-Tox into the position of power she doesn´t deserve in the slightest, and to keep Ahwoka alive so she would mess up with the events of the OT.
Well, I have a theory why Maul sucks so much in TCW. The fact is that he does not have the lower half of his body, which means that he is technically castrated. Thus, the fact that he sucks even in a fight with a half-educated Padawan is not another indicator of Ahsoka’s Mary Suesness, it is a descriptive confirmation of Maul’s condition. How conceptual. Amazing
Yet he overpowers Obi-Wan just fine without his legs almost every single time in this show. EVEN WITH THE DROID LEGS
Please stop making excuses for the writers...
This last arc is just so bad
Yup. Absolutely baffling that people call this "peak Star Wars" 😩💀
Hey you two ^^
A great review as usual - The more Ahsoka and by extention TCW are exposed - the more it becomes obvious how bad it really is
And people like that stuff so much?!
The wrting is so devoid of logic and common sense - it's painful
Great work :3
Thank you! 🥰
It's now canon that Ahsoka leaving the Order helped flip Anakin to the Dark Side. So this means that after her trial, if she just swallowed the bullet and accepted the promotion the Council dangled in front of her face and stayed with Anakin, she could've probably helped influence Anakin to stay on the path of the Light and NOT fall to the Dark Side. So even when Filoni tries to make Ahsoka this benevolent saint, he fails in that regard, and Ahsoka just comes off as a selfish brat whose decision to leave helped drown the galaxy in darkness.
I wouldn't give Ahsoka so much credit as assuming she could've prevented Anakin's turn to the dark side. That's exactly the kind of thing Filoni *wants* us to think by making it canon that Ahsoka's absence influenced Anakin to turn. I call bull on all of it.
But yeah, Ahsoka is still 100% a selfish brat for leaving the Order. And the biggest reason doesn't even have anything to do with Anakin but rather with the *ongoing war* she's choosing NOT to help in.
@@imyouralibi6208 I would call bull on all of it too, it seems more like Anakin's politics and his desire to not lose anyone is what caused him to fall. But in the ''official'' canon that Filoni now controls, it's Ahsoka's fault that everything went to crap.
Even when he tries to make Ahsoka the center of the universe, Filoni fails and makes her the cause of every tragedy in ROTS and beyond.
As if Anakin wasn't already a selfish brat.
@@russianoverkill3715 Selfish.......the man would literally damn himself to save others. That's the opposite to selfish. A selfish man wouldn't care if his wife is dying.
@@russianoverkill3715 The man would literally damn himself to save others. If he was selfish, he'd react to Padme potentially dying by getting a new girlfriend.
The fact that Maul thinks Ahsoka is enough for him as a partner against Sidious goes to show Filoni's fanboyism over his creation. Last time Maul took on Sidious, he had a stronger ally in Savage Oppress, a monster who was capable of killing Jedi Masters. And they still lost. If Maul and Ahsoka went after Sidious, you can expect both of them to wind up as smoked ham by the end of the day.
Exactly!
@@imyouralibi6208 I can imagine a scenario where Ahsoka was fool enough to accept Maul's proposal, only for Sidious to defeat them easily and string them up, periodically tormenting them with Force Lightning. Vader negotiates for Ahsoka's release, but he leaves Maul with Sidious, who then asks his former apprentice "What made you think it would have worked this time?" as Maul is painfully transformed into a Sith Stalker Assassin.
I can’t believe that I have to actually say this, but Maul obviously doesn’t think he can take Sidious, even with an ally. He just wants an ally and offering to go stop Sidious is just him trying to “sweeten the deal”
@@guaty4788 Er, no. He even says they can stop Sidious-as in take him down.
@@guaty4788"We could've destroyed Sidious!"
Are you that dense, or just not paying attention to the show YOU ARE defending?
no way y’all yapped abt this shit for 45 minutes 💀🙏
Filoni shiII
It's ALMOST like this is an in-depth analysis reaction as a writer, since your dense ass couldn't read the title "Writers React___"
@@russianoverkill3715it’s the fact that almost nothing they said made sense or was accurate
@@guaty4788Like I said, you're too dense to understand anything they said. Literally me, a teenager, understood everything they said. And none of it was "inaccurate" or "nonsense", I'm inclined to think you just think it is, because it isn't what you wanted to hear.
Are you planning to analyze writing in games? I would like you to play Classic Fallouts, they are hard to get into, but it's worth it.
Not really. We have a loose idea for maybe analyzing the Legend of Zelda games, but otherwise, neither of us has expressed an interest in exploring that particular avenue 🤔🤷♀
@@imyouralibi6208 makes sense, games are time consuming, while TV shows and Movies only need your hearing and viewing, thanks for answering.
Clearly you two cant fully grasp whats going on here like 99 percent of other people who watched this...We have something called the force ever heard of it? Maul knows about Sideous turning Skywalker because he had a force vision plus he is Sideous former apprentice and he already knows bits and parts of his plan.Did you even watch Phantom Menace? Also why is your channel dedicated to hatting on a fictional character mostly Ahsoka in particular? You might as well change your channel name already because its clear there is an unhealthy obsession with her like what the hell did she do to yall? 😂😂😂😂Go get some vitamin D in your life...You two gotta be trolling or acting at this point there is no way you two can have such a poor take...
Uh huh, so you're clearly ignoring context, like you people do all the time.
How is Maul having this vision? Or are we just going to ignore that Maul doesn't even know who Anakin is.
They met once, 13 YEARS AGO, when he was a CHILD.
"Why is your channel dedicated to hating a character like Ahsoka" To show people like you that she is a Mary Sue. But of course you got a bias for her, and will ignore that.
"What did she do to y'all?" Be a poorly written character that is unnecessarily praised by people who lack media literacy. Looks like you're one of them.
"Go get some Vitamin D in your life" Take your own advice. Man was so butthurt, he made an ignorant essay on personally attacking random strangers for their knowledge of writing that he clearly doesn't have himself.
"You two have such a poor take" Look in the mirror.
It's was idea of Anakin to promote Capitan Rex to Commander and give him Ahsoka as his advisor to skip the legal part she's no longer in authority to command clones into battlefield while in reality she commands them.
Officially in Republic documents it's Rex who commanded 501 legion into Mandalore with Ahsoka at his side
Unofficially it's Ahsoka who commanded 501 legion into Mandalore with Rex at her side.
So Ahsoka calling for more reinforcement from Kenobi is not idiotic because he agreed to this Anakin idea in the first place.
The whole thing is nepotism aganist Jedi Conscil and Senat, very Anakin thing to do.
Ahsoka won with Maul only because he was too cocky, like all Sith. Focusing too much of being the victor leads to being blind to what is right under their nose and Ahsoka used that aganist him. It happend many times in Star Wars since New Hope with Vader and Palpatine.
And do I have to mention that Star Wars intended target always has been KIDS? Because in OT Vader is "ooo, I am bad guy here that also wants to overthrow the one controlling me if somebody will help and then I wil do evil control myself, ooo" (which is exactly what Maul wants since the beginning, he wants power more and more like Anakin) and OT Palpatine is "ooo, I am controlling the bad guy so I am the worst bad guy here, ooo, strike me down because something, ooo, let myself killed in the most absurdal way possible by Vader when I don't want it, oooo"
If you REALLY think about it, whole Star Wars is GARBAGE whenever it's solely about religions stuff such as Jedi and Sith. It's ironic to hear that by Tarkin and Thrawn in-universe words. It's the reason why Andor feels amazing because it doesn't focus on the religion nonsens that Tony Gilroy doesn't like, everything but that. It's not different to real life religious wars by which they got inspired. Does anyone find religious wars to be logical like any war? If it's not war about religion nonsens stuff, it's about wealth or getting into power. Quite real life. And In The Clone Wars all these 3 aspects were happening.
And about Bo-Katan Kryze, it's little more complicated. 7000 BBY Mandalore born as a nation that invades other nations to survive, inspired by Mongols, Vikings in real life. They never create stuff by themselves but invade to steal. It's not idealistic government because it creates itself many, many enemies and and very easy can collapse which exactly what happend, like with Alexander The Great. From that point of Mandalore, House Kryze turned Mandalore's goverment into democracy but it also became pacifist nation in response to their past, made them very easy to be conquered. Satine Kryze is a pacifist after all. Their opposition Death Watch saw it rightfully as a flaw but wanted to bring back Mongol times into Mandalore in response. Mandalore was divided into too peacful and too violent political parties, neither ideal like exactly Jedi and Sith.
After Bo-Katan Kryze lost her past leader Pre Vizsla and her sister Satine, leaders of both radical parties, she reflected on herself about it before season 7.
[Bo-Katan] You actually captured him. I'm impressed.
[Ahsoka] That is what the council wanted.
[Bo-Katan] Still. You succeed where many have failed.
[Ahsoka] I've learned from the best, including you.
[Bo-Katan] I wish I was good at something other than war. (mongol times weren't great)
[Ahsoka] Your people need a new kind of leader.
[Bo-Katan] My sister tried that. I never understood her idealism. (pacifist times weren't great)
In The Rebel times Bo-Katan felt she was part of the Mandalore failure. Whenever it was pacifist times, mongol times, together they were strong and great nation but they were divided at that time. She didn't have any hope to bring back Mandalorians together. Sabine gave her hope.
In The Mandalorian times Bo-Katan wanted to get darksaber to take revenge on Empire for betraying all Mandalorians, to try to bring Mandalorians together again. Din Djarin used technicality to giver her darksaber. And then darksaber became a relic of the past, got destroyed but Mandalorians remained together without it.
You could say this part of The Mandalorian season 3 should have happen in The Rebels already but it couldn't happen due to OT, Galactic Empire cannot collapse by Mandos, it's Luke story. The other thing is getting darksaber debut in live action. And what's a problem with doing it again after Galactic Empire collapsed with Empire remnant of Gideon when real life history has examples of getting a divided nation full again and again like Poland or China because of civil wars.
Let's just hope it's the end of Mandalorian civil wars in Star Wars after The Mandalorian S3 because doing yet again and again will make it more like China, and will makes us audience be bored.
“Unofficially it's Ahsoka who commanded 501 legion into Mandalore with Rex at her side.”
If you were paying attention, it’s quite clear in the video that we’re fully aware of that. But that doesn’t make her order for more reinforcements any less idiotic.
The GAR shouldn’t be on Mandalore. Period. The fact that Kenobi agreed to it in the first place is idiotic. Ahsoka now asking for more troops to aid an invasion that shouldn’t be happening is thus more idiotic. If one is trying to use official resources to do something unofficially, they shouldn’t expect to be given more official resources to get the job done.
“Ahsoka won with Maul only because he was too cocky”
Maul was arrogant in his fight with Obi Wan in TPM, and he lost because Obi Wan surprised him. Whereas, against Ahsoka, he loses because he gives up his advantage and she overpowers him. He wasn’t being “too cocky”, he was nerfed for the sake of the Mary Sue.
“Star Wars intended target always has been KIDS”
What’s your point?
“It's not different to real life religious wars by which they got inspired.”
Star Wars wasn’t inspired by religious wars. Do some research.
“[Mandalore was] inspired by Mongols, Vikings in real life. They never create stuff by themselves but invade to steal.”
Again, you clearly need to do some research, because a) the influences for the Mandalorian culture was not the Mongols or even solely the Vikings, it was a mix of several warrior cultures, and b) the Vikings certainly had their own share of inventions and innovations, and the Mongolian culture is deeper and more nuanced than you’re giving it credit for.
“It's not idealistic government because it creates itself many, many enemies and very easy can collapse which exactly what happend, like with Alexander The Great”
The Macedonian Empire didn’t fall because of having many, many enemies. Do some research.
“Satine Kryze is a pacifist after all.”
TCW’s portrayal of pacifism is completely lacking any nuance and honestly comes off as strawmanning. If it is your sole source of understanding the concept, do some research.
“After Bo-Katan Kryze lost her past leader Pre Vizsla and her sister Satine… she reflected on herself about it before season 7.”
Headcanon. Your interpretation of her conversation is not supported by anything shown in the content.
I have yet to see Rebels, and I stopped watching The Mandalorian after S2. So I can’t comment on your assertions there, but they aren’t relevant to a discussion of TCW’s content anyway.
“doing [civil wars] again and again will make it more like China, and will makes us audience be bored”
I can’t help but notice you seem to be contradicting yourself. Because earlier you said that borrowing influences from real life makes SW bad (“whole Star Wars is GARBAGE whenever it's solely about religions stuff… Andor feels amazing because it doesn't focus on the religion nonsense”), but then you seemed to imply that borrowing influences from real life is what makes TCW’s content great (“Quite real life. And In The Clone Wars all these 3 aspects were happening.”), and yet now you’re again saying that borrowing from real life would make SW bad… ?
~ M.E.
Alexander the Great's empire didn't fall apart until after his death when it was divided up by his generals who began fighting amongst themselves. Yes, Alexander had many enemies, but he was far from stupid when it came to dealing with them. Alexander was taught by Aristotle after all. We also don't know for sure how he died. All we know is that he got sick while on campaign and died on his way back to Macedonia.
Also, Mongols and Vikings were very creative and inventive in their own right. The Mongols, living in the harsh conditions that they were, had to be creative to survive and it's the same with the Vikings. Despite this, both cultures found ways to not only survive but thrive. There are hypotheses that the Vikings had trade routes all the way to the Middle East. If you're going to bring history to an argument at least look up the basics.
Bo-Tox-Karen is a self-serving narcissistic sociopath who lies and manipulates all the time to gain power. She has never changed. Not even slightly. There is nothing complicated about that villain. The only complicated thing is the lack of moral compass in Pukasfilm which results in people like Felony being in charge of Star Wars and promoting evil to impressionable kids.
It’s apparent neither of you fully grasp the full story of the galaxy, nor have an understanding of how their galaxy works
Nah, it's actually apparent that Filoni has you fans on a tight leash, praising him and his horrible writing.
Nor did you watch or understand the video which you commented on.
@@ECSOrder66 I did actually, that’s why I left a comment. They both stated things that are simply not true
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@guaty4788 "I did actually" You understood the video? Because you know I said "OR", right? As in one or the other?
@@ECSOrder66 The implication would be both, didn't think I'd need to point that out