Rich, I asked the GFC 500 question directly to Garmin about a month ago. Their exact response was “Sorry, the GFC 500 autopilot cannont be interfaced nor installed on the Cessna 182 G1000 NAV III Aircraft”. That was disappointing information. I would be happy to forward you the email exchange if you would like.
As a pilot that hasn't flown in over 36 years and because of circumstances in my favor I can now resume my flying dreams. A freind has cooled my jets and told me to look for a T182 for my forever plane. I now have all of my ducks in a row and as soon as my condo sells my flight training will begin and then I will start looking to purchase a 182. Time will tell wish me luck.
I bought a 2004 182 with G1000 upgraded to WAAS a few years ago. I was told that the upgrade cost $40,000. The WAAS works great for precision RNAV approaches BUT the KAP 140 will NOT fly the RNAV glideslope. Nonetheless, I find the plane quite easy to control on the glideslope adjusting the autopilot's vertical speed and the KAP 140 holds the localizer well. As you said, the AP must be disengaged for the missed, but once established in the climb and headed for the missed approach waypoint the KAP 140 can be engaged and will fly the remainder of the missed approach including the hold quite nicely. I would not hesitate to fly this plane to minimums on an precision RNAV approach.
Im guessing the G1000 would have been the biggest upgrade in the 182 for a while when introduced in 2004. Many agree, a fantastic cross country plane. Thanks Rich
I really appreciate your honest and "no frills" approach to flying and reviewing airplanes. You give information I wonder about as I watch it and you're honest about your products.
Hey RIch. I learned to fly (PPL/MEL/IR) out of ACF at KLGB, really enjoy your videos as they bring back memories of KLGB. I have had the issue with the KAP140 altitude difference that you had while flying DA40 G1000 planes with the KAP140 AP.. In one case it was simply I had a different BARO setting in the KAP140 vs G1000. In another case (different plane) I believe it was a calibration difference between the KAP140 and G1000 (I verified the BARO setting was identical on both and yet still a slightly different captured altitude). Keep the videos coming and the shiny side up!
I should clarify for anyone new to flying a G1000 + KAP140 - The BARO setting in the G1000 is not read by the KAP140, you have to set the BARO in the KAP140 directly and that is what the autopilot uses for altitude capture/hold. In the GFC700 planes, the AP uses the BARO setting from the G1000 display so it is fully integrated in that configuratoin,
A friendly suggestion, you guys should put the links to the controller listing in the description, would save some time for your potential buyers. Love the channel!
Enjoyable demonstration of an older G1000 in action! The only aircraft I've personally flown the first generation G1000s was a DA 40. It was quite a departure from the steam gauges flown early in my career. The good things about it was the simplified instrument scan, large moving map, and of course the large altitude indicator. The only thing I didn't like was the amount of button pushing to do some of the simpler tasks. After some time, it got easier when one learned the shortcuts. Flying actual was great with this unit because of the centralized indicators on the primary display. Also, flying coupled approaches was fairly easy with the equipment available in the DA 40. Looking forward to future videos on IFR ops. Blue skies!
The GS 700 is nice because I’ve got a chance to see it work in a 182P model and what a very essential tools to have while flying Single Pilot IFR to make the work load easier
I recently purchased a 206 with a similar configuration, with the exception that the previous owner added WAAS which is nice. David already covered the Baro setting, but another feature of the KP140 is that when you press the up or down when not in VS mode it will adjust the altitude about 20 feet for each press. So if you are 100 feet low and your Baro is right, press the up 5 times and it should adjust.
Rich I really like your channel. Straight forward and if I was in the market or just had questions I think I would get a straight answer. I really like the turbo 182 from 2001 on . Great Video
👍☑️ Nicely done Rich. Hope all the work your putting into these is paying off in sales, you deserve it. Great production quality and product knowledge.
I usually took up first time jumpers. This was in 1988. They jumped with a static line. One day in late July the club had a very large class of first time jumpers of over 70 students. The club had 2 Cessna 182s. I was up 34 times that one day.3 jumpers and a jump master. I saw first hand what a 182 can do. And the club still has that 182 to this day..@@FlyingwithRich
Beautiful. I use to fly many years ago. Got my PPL in 1965. Have about 700 hours. My last flight as PIC was in 1988. I have time in the 182 but I don't remember the power settings on climb out or the sequence of changing settings. Would you be so kind as to tell me how you do it on T/O and cruise? Thanks Rich. Enjoy your flights so much.
Great video and plane! My friend has a 2002 he just did a big upgrade on the engine and avionics. He went with the IO-550 310hp done by Texas Skyways and let me tell you it is fast and 4 Garmin GI275’s plus one for the engine and the GTN750/650 also G500 autopilot he did a nice job.
I own a virtually identical 2004 T182T and have had numerous conversations with Garmin and Cessna regarding the upgrade you asked about. I am also an avionics technician (mostly Garmin products). The short answer is (emphatically) “NO”. In order to accomplish it one would have to upgrade the entire system to G3X touch or the like which becomes prohibitively expensive. Sad to say both Garmin and Cessna are reluctant to certify an easy upgrade to an extraordinarily capable airframe. Seems the several hundreds of early T182T owners should collectively hold their feet to the proverbial fire to achieve that goal. I’d be on board! PS, I’m really glad the market value these ships is so good.
Great channel. Just now subscribed. Been a PPL since 1974. Flew mostly the C 172 until 8 years ago. Typical medical issues grounded me. WatChing these channels, I wish I had completed my instrument rating. Ratings.
Even when I load the baro in the KAP140, it likes to shoot through the altitude a bit. When I’m close to 200 ft of my capture altitude, I’ll shallow the V/S to 100-200 fpm to capture easier. The up and down buttons will adjust at 20 feet increments. Your standby AI looks inop by the way. Nice video.
Good job, looks like the KAP140 didn’t quite capture 1,600 feet, I have started watching my selected altitude closely as its hit-n-miss as to if it will capture or not. And I do believe you can upgrade to the GFC500 now.
Yeah - I was a little surprised it didn’t get the 1600 because it did well earlier. Been a while since I have flown the KAP 140. Thanks for the info on the GFC 500 - that’s a game changer for the that vintage 182.
Rich you are on it , solid information. Any Diamonds come into OCR hanger ? DA 62 is on the list. I'm all ears. And eyes. You remind me a lot of my pilot and good friend that would use to fly Moonies from Bermuda Dunes for So Cal Business. Good game:)
Rich, with all the different aircraft you fly, is it fun to jump back into something “simple” like a 182? I remember back when I was spending a lot of time in a 310 and a Cherokee 6, it was like “coming home” to jump back in a 172. There’s just something about those high wings, almost like comfort food! Thanks for the video.
Something wrong with the capture bot on your website, it just reappears when you click the box :( hey just clicked from a different page then the capture worked but that's not good
Hey Rich I'm relatively new to aviation, got my ppl last year. Why do Cessna owners reference numbers like 172/206 etc. yet Cessna themselves don't reference them at all and only say Skyhawk/Skylane? Did they flip flop marketing at some point and now everyone just references the code for the model?
Dear Rich.. You best of the best CEO. in Long Beach. I ask you made more brand new film-video about You airplane.s please... Greetings... Henryk...!!!!!
They don’t retrofit the GFC700. Price on NXI upgrade is somewhere in the $45K-$60K range you have to upgrade to WAAS and there is some options for that which are less money depending on availability.
It is way too expensive for a 17-year-old airplane with over 3500 hours. I wonder who is going to buy it. You can buy a brand new Tecnam P2010 for $410k.
@@FlyingwithRich Tecnam P2010 is a cheaper and better airplane than Cessna 182 in all aspects. Anyone who does enough research won't buy a 17-year-old 182 when they can get a less than 5-year-old P2010 at a lower price.
@@Openwrt2023 182 has a track record like no other. I am sure the buyer did plenty of research before pulling the trigger. Have you seen the switches in a Tecnam? Looks like a toy to me.
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Rich, I asked the GFC 500 question directly to Garmin about a month ago. Their exact response was “Sorry, the GFC 500 autopilot cannont be interfaced nor installed on the Cessna 182 G1000 NAV III Aircraft”. That was disappointing information. I would be happy to forward you the email exchange if you would like.
Thanks - please do - rich@ocraviation.com.
Anything can be accomplished, with enough money and the right person doing the work.
Thanks for the flight. I sit here eating dinner and go along for the ride. Nice.
As a pilot that hasn't flown in over 36 years and because of circumstances in my favor I can now resume my flying dreams. A freind has cooled my jets and told me to look for a T182 for my forever plane. I now have all of my ducks in a row and as soon as my condo sells my flight training will begin and then I will start looking to purchase a 182. Time will tell wish me luck.
Good Luck then. ‘Haven’t flown myself for over 30 years …writing from France….
That is great news and happy flying. C182 is an excellent choice particularly with G1000 and CFG 700.
I bought a 2004 182 with G1000 upgraded to WAAS a few years ago. I was told that the upgrade cost $40,000. The WAAS works great for precision RNAV approaches BUT the KAP 140 will NOT fly the RNAV glideslope. Nonetheless, I find the plane quite easy to control on the glideslope adjusting the autopilot's vertical speed and the KAP 140 holds the localizer well. As you said, the AP must be disengaged for the missed, but once established in the climb and headed for the missed approach waypoint the KAP 140 can be engaged and will fly the remainder of the missed approach including the hold quite nicely. I would not hesitate to fly this plane to minimums on an precision RNAV approach.
One of the best GA channels on YT. Keep it up and eventually sub count will match the awesomeness as well 😀
Thank you!
definitely one of the best youtube channels for general aviation. your videos are very well edited....
Thanks a lot!
Im guessing the G1000 would have been the biggest upgrade in the 182 for a while when introduced in 2004. Many agree, a fantastic cross country plane. Thanks Rich
Love the sound of that engine...
It has a wonderful rumble to it!
I really appreciate your honest and "no frills" approach to flying and reviewing airplanes. You give information I wonder about as I watch it and you're honest about your products.
Thank you.
Hey RIch. I learned to fly (PPL/MEL/IR) out of ACF at KLGB, really enjoy your videos as they bring back memories of KLGB. I have had the issue with the KAP140 altitude difference that you had while flying DA40 G1000 planes with the KAP140 AP.. In one case it was simply I had a different BARO setting in the KAP140 vs G1000. In another case (different plane) I believe it was a calibration difference between the KAP140 and G1000 (I verified the BARO setting was identical on both and yet still a slightly different captured altitude). Keep the videos coming and the shiny side up!
I should clarify for anyone new to flying a G1000 + KAP140 - The BARO setting in the G1000 is not read by the KAP140, you have to set the BARO in the KAP140 directly and that is what the autopilot uses for altitude capture/hold. In the GFC700 planes, the AP uses the BARO setting from the G1000 display so it is fully integrated in that configuratoin,
Thanks for the message!
A friendly suggestion, you guys should put the links to the controller listing in the description, would save some time for your potential buyers.
Love the channel!
Great suggestion. Thanks.
Enjoyable demonstration of an older G1000 in action! The only aircraft I've personally flown the first generation G1000s was a DA 40. It was quite a departure from the steam gauges flown early in my career. The good things about it was the simplified instrument scan, large moving map, and of course the large altitude indicator. The only thing I didn't like was the amount of button pushing to do some of the simpler tasks. After some time, it got easier when one learned the shortcuts.
Flying actual was great with this unit because of the centralized indicators on the primary display. Also, flying coupled approaches was fairly easy with the equipment available in the DA 40. Looking forward to future videos on IFR ops. Blue skies!
Thanks for watching and your comments!
The GS 700 is nice because I’ve got a chance to see it work in a 182P model and what a very essential tools to have while flying Single Pilot IFR to make the work load easier
I recently purchased a 206 with a similar configuration, with the exception that the previous owner added WAAS which is nice.
David already covered the Baro setting, but another feature of the KP140 is that when you press the up or down when not in VS mode it will adjust the altitude about 20 feet for each press. So if you are 100 feet low and your Baro is right, press the up 5 times and it should adjust.
Thanks - you are correct. I forgot about that feature!
Rich I really like your channel. Straight forward and if I was in the market or just had questions I think I would get a straight answer. I really like the turbo 182 from 2001 on . Great Video
Thanks for watching!
👍☑️ Nicely done Rich. Hope all the work your putting into these is paying off in sales, you deserve it. Great production quality and product knowledge.
Thank you! I appreciate the nice feedback!
Love the 182. I used to take skydivers up in a 1956 182. What a workhorse.
‘56 was very light. I love the way they look too - sit tall and straight tail. Would be a good candidate for a nice refresh!
I usually took up first time jumpers. This was in 1988. They jumped with a static line. One day in late July the club had a very large class of first time jumpers of over 70 students. The club had 2 Cessna 182s. I was up 34 times that one day.3 jumpers and a jump master. I saw first hand what a 182 can do. And the club still has that 182 to this day..@@FlyingwithRich
Beautiful. I use to fly many years ago. Got my PPL in 1965. Have about 700 hours. My last flight as PIC was in 1988. I have time in the 182 but I don't remember the power settings on climb out or the sequence of changing settings. Would you be so kind as to tell me how you do it on T/O and cruise? Thanks Rich. Enjoy your flights so much.
Great video and plane! My friend has a 2002 he just did a big upgrade on the engine and avionics. He went with the IO-550 310hp done by Texas Skyways and let me tell you it is fast and 4 Garmin GI275’s plus one for the engine and the GTN750/650 also G500 autopilot he did a nice job.
I own a virtually identical 2004 T182T and have had numerous conversations with Garmin and Cessna regarding the upgrade you asked about. I am also an avionics technician (mostly Garmin products). The short answer is (emphatically) “NO”. In order to accomplish it one would have to upgrade the entire system to G3X touch or the like which becomes prohibitively expensive. Sad to say both Garmin and Cessna are reluctant to certify an easy upgrade to an extraordinarily capable airframe. Seems the several hundreds of early T182T owners should collectively hold their feet to the proverbial fire to achieve that goal. I’d be on board! PS, I’m really glad the market value these ships is so good.
That’s not what I was hoping to hear but thanks for the info!
Just curious, about how much is 'prohibitively expensive'? Could you achieve the same functionality with an Avidyne setup?
@@MVandemore you’d have to talk to an avionics shop to determine that. I used the term “prohibitively” as related to my own situation.
Great channel. Just now subscribed. Been a PPL since 1974. Flew mostly the C 172 until 8 years ago. Typical medical issues grounded me.
WatChing these channels, I wish I had completed my instrument rating. Ratings.
Thanks for the message. Glad you like the channel!
I enjoy flying Cessna with G1000 particularly with GFC 700.
Even when I load the baro in the KAP140, it likes to shoot through the altitude a bit. When I’m close to 200 ft of my capture altitude, I’ll shallow the V/S to 100-200 fpm to capture easier. The up and down buttons will adjust at 20 feet increments. Your standby AI looks inop by the way. Nice video.
Thanks. Good tips. Standby AI is inop for sure!
Good job, looks like the KAP140 didn’t quite capture 1,600 feet, I have started watching my selected altitude closely as its hit-n-miss as to if it will capture or not. And I do believe you can upgrade to the GFC500 now.
Yeah - I was a little surprised it didn’t get the 1600 because it did well earlier. Been a while since I have flown the KAP 140. Thanks for the info on the GFC 500 - that’s a game changer for the that vintage 182.
I noticed your call sign went from 4 identifiers to 3, i just studied that in my PPL ground school
Good stuff. always great content.. thanks Rich
Hey Rich you have one inop indicator for your back up in case you loose your G1000 display screen in which I caught it fast
4K VIDEO...sick
I am a student pilot and I am purchasing a 2005 T182T for my instrument and high performance ratings. Thank you for the review
Student pilot buying a turbo Cessna…I am not mad at you Sir. Fly safe.
That’s awesome. Couldn’t have picked a better airplane in my opinion. Thanks for watching!
Rich you are on it , solid information. Any Diamonds come into OCR hanger ? DA 62 is on the list. I'm all ears. And eyes. You remind me a lot of my pilot and good friend that would use to fly Moonies from Bermuda Dunes for So Cal Business. Good game:)
Another great video Rich👍
They stopped making the turbo models? A Cessna 182 with a turbine would be great!
Rich I love to have been the camera man on this one
Rich, with all the different aircraft you fly, is it fun to jump back into something “simple” like a 182? I remember back when I was spending a lot of time in a 310 and a Cherokee 6, it was like “coming home” to jump back in a 172. There’s just something about those high wings, almost like comfort food! Thanks for the video.
Agree. I spent a lot of time in 172/182/206 - feels like home for sure!
Great video! Thank you.
Thank you!
that looks very much like a plane a friend of mine in the raleigh, nc area used to have.
Nice landing!
Thanks!
Why don't they make the 182T RG any longer??
Looking very nice...
The standby steam artificial horizon doesn’t appear to be working.
N851Delta Sierra is similar to Stevokinevo's N851Tango Bravo.......except opposite coasts.
Interesting - my 182T with a KAP140 always captures ALT 100ft low
That is interesting. Another friend said the same thing on his airplane.
It was your Altitude indicator
nice flight. very smooth....
Thanks.
Nicely done.
Thanks for the good video. What happened to the vacuum pump? Backup attitude indicator looks inoperable.
Yeah we noticed that too. Probably needs a pump.
Caught that as well. If that vacuum pump has carbon vanes, several of them might have eroded badly.
Something wrong with the capture bot on your website, it just reappears when you click the box :( hey just clicked from a different page then the capture worked but that's not good
Thank you! We will have to take a look at that. We've had some issues with the website lately.
Hey Rich I'm relatively new to aviation, got my ppl last year. Why do Cessna owners reference numbers like 172/206 etc. yet Cessna themselves don't reference them at all and only say Skyhawk/Skylane? Did they flip flop marketing at some point and now everyone just references the code for the model?
I love to be flying this Demo for you Rich
Standby AH/HSI is out. Probably gotta look at that.
You are correct. Thanks for watching!
Great video and very interesting
Espetacular 🎉
Thank you!
if your pfd fails, you should use your backup artificial horizon, and it is not set correctly to be used !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 10:19
It's broke- known condition prior to the VFR flight. Thanks for watching.
What was the price for this airplane, thanks
Dear Rich.. You best of the best CEO. in Long Beach.
I ask you made more brand new film-video about You airplane.s please...
Greetings... Henryk...!!!!!
Never double fist empty beer cans
Thanks RIch
👍👍👍👍👍
Hey Rich, is that a TURBO normalized model or a all the time turbo.
Turbo normalized.
Capable auto pilot but it seems like it’s in a very bad location on the panel.
Wondering why the one plane has a rebuilt engine with 1200 hrs Or is that not total time ?
We found metal in the oil at 1200 so hours it’s getting a 0/0 factory reman engine - that’s the 1200 TTAF and 0 TTE. Thanks for watching!
The sunset is nice but not when it right facing on takeoff
Why are you leaving like 6 different comments?
How much would it cost to change the autopilot to the GFC 700? Thanks. I'm serious. Plus, how much to change to the NXi? How much is this plane?
Garmin doesn’t have a plan for the GFC 500 upgrade yet. I’ll get you a price on the NXi.
I thought that I asked about the GFC-700? I also asked about the cost of changing to the G1000 Nxi. Thanks.
They don’t retrofit the GFC700. Price on NXI upgrade is somewhere in the $45K-$60K range you have to upgrade to WAAS and there is some options for that which are less money depending on availability.
What holds your camera on outside the plane? Could it fall off and kill someone?
No it can't fall off. It's a special mount designed for a GoPro.
Is it possible to upgrade the G1000 to WAAS or is it too cost prohibitive? Is it just a software upgrade?
As far as I am aware you can't upgrade the older G1000s to WAAS.
How do I get Rich’s job?
Your OCR website is broken. Cannot access your inventory?
What browser are you using?
And what device?
Safari on iPad
Yikes, what's up with your standby AI @ 12:25?
Yeah - replacing with a Garmin GI 275. Thanks for watching!
Is the standby AI broke?
Yes and fixed now!
Tell the price 👌🏻🇩🇿
$350K. Sold.
How much for it?
$350k
Is the backup AI working?
No - it was not working properly.
$322,000 brand new in 2004
Now $350,000 with 3,000 hr now in 2024
You are correct on price when new. Very common for airplanes to appreciate.
Price?
$350K
@@FlyingwithRich thanks
I just want any plane that has any autopilot
Please, don't abbreviate the price, is confusing!!
Lol are you serious?
Only for dopes.
Interested in your T182 DS. Please send contact info.
Rich@ocraviation.com
All those freighters….
It is way too expensive for a 17-year-old airplane with over 3500 hours. I wonder who is going to buy it.
You can buy a brand new Tecnam P2010 for $410k.
What do you think of the Tecnam? I understood the 2010 with Lycomjng 390 was $503K. T182T sold - that market is very hot.
@@FlyingwithRich Tecnam P2010 is a cheaper and better airplane than Cessna 182 in all aspects. Anyone who does enough research won't buy a 17-year-old 182 when they can get a less than 5-year-old P2010 at a lower price.
@@Openwrt2023 182 has a track record like no other. I am sure the buyer did plenty of research before pulling the trigger. Have you seen the switches in a Tecnam? Looks like a toy to me.
only for the rich