All dealerships do this. We walked away from a GMC 2500 diesel pickup a few years ago, haggling over add ons we didn’t want and didn’t even believe we’re on the truck. Dealer wouldn’t budge and we walked.
My sister wanted the new Civic SI in red and they wouldn't take off any of the $8k add-ons. She went to another Honda dealer and they ordered the one she wanted without any add-ons.
I don’t know where he got this information, but I haven’t seen any discounts on Hondas! When I go to websites on individual dealers, none of them are advertising any kind of big discounts.😂
Just got a "VIP" e-mail (lol) from my local Honda dealer listing 12 specific VINs with "Instant Savings" ranging from $2250 to $4250. Most were in the $3,50 to $3,600 range.
I went to the Honda dealership a few weeks ago to get a recall service done. It was busy with customers and their inventory looked different from a couple of months ago. The service writer told me they have been consistent with sales.
My local Honda dealer has been sending these scammy looking emails trying to get some attention. 😂 Last time I was in there their mark ups were astronomical! I hope they get their deserved!
Got my licence at 16 and have been driving Honda ever since. I am 44 now and wont be buying another one. I bought my last Accord in 2018. I was shocked when I went to look at new ones. Over 40k for an Accord and over 30k for a Civic !!! I was affraid to look at Pilot or CRV. I dont think raising prices by 15-20k in 6 years Is only due to production costs.
The transmission in my Honda Accord died at 59,000 miles. I got a Civic that was much better and faster. The old Civics are much better than the new Civics. Many new Civics have CVT transmissions made in Mexico. Hybrid/turbos can wear out engines faster.
I’m done ever trying to buy Hondas. Their dealer experience is by far the worst. Obviously there are good and bad dealers everywhere but I’ve yet to find a good one around me. Buying our Odyssey was a nightmare. They give a price quote via email and over the phone saying the vehicle was on the lot, then show up and the van isn’t there and there’s a markup they claim “Honda makes them charge everybody.” Trying to buy a civic si a few years ago, I told another dealer I would not pay over msrp and their response was “why should we sell one to you at msrp if you could turn around and sell it for more.” I had no intention of flipping the car and how is that a good sales tactic?
i am out of this charade. bought my camry in 18. will avoid any dealership until it dies. only has 154k. i sold cars in college. i would recommend expanding ur buying radius.
@@hankitytankity I inquired about a Sienna before we got the Odyssey and it was a long wait list so we moved on. Our local Toyota dealer says they only charge msrp but they do have their $1,995 dealer accessories they require so essentially a $2k markup. I noticed all the dealers around me also add all that dealer accessory crap to used cars now too.
Weird, everywhere I look i see that sales are way up. Including the data that Honda itself released said that there was a 20% increase in Civic sales. 11% growth in Honda sales in the US
get the hybrid model, the e-cvt marketed by honda isn’t a cvt at all, it just drives like a cvt, it’s actually a direct drive system where the power goes directly from the engine to the electric generator to the electric motors to the wheels.
We recently shopped our local Honda dealer here in central FL. There were NO price cuts and they also had addendum stickers with up to $4,000 in add on's(yes, they are still trying to charge for nitrogen in tires here in FL). We looked at a HRV, no movement on their sticker price. Went to Buick and bought a Envista Avenir trim. Much smoother ride, more upscale interior, thousands of $$ less, and got under invoice price with NO add's. The engine is tiny but for a around town car for the wife with a hatchback it is a excellent vehicle. So, Honda still thinks they can over charge just for the Honda name. I think they are in big trouble with that attitude.
If Honda dealers would stop adding mandatory markups of literal junk products (e.g. "paint protection" = glorified wax job for $699; door edge film for $399, etc) to the "affordable" trim levels, they'd probably move a helluva lot more of them. For now, I'll keep driving my 2018 because at my age, I'll likely die before it does.
Most of these brands are not necessarily lowering prices , but rather introducing lower priced stripped down base models! Still, A Civic shouldn’t cost $30k
It’s very simple. Honda dealers Jack up the cost with unnecessary items adding thousands to the price. Dealer fees and padding the interest rates make buying a used car more attractive.
It’s because the accord and civic have gotten uglier with less to offer. Getting rid of the V6 and removing sunroofs from certain packages was a disservice. Plus, they raised prices.
I am not sure about this claim. My local Honda dealer (in Denver) only has (1) Accord and (1) Civic on their lot for sale currently. They have no problems selling what little inventory they have.
... laughable , please tell us where these dealers are at - small towns ? because here in the Northeast we Never see Any of these so called discounts - not just Honda but any auto dealerships - ...
I stopped by a Honda dealership in 2022 to buy a Honda Civic Type R. They wanted almost $5,000 more than MSRP. I laughed in the sales manager's fat face! I ended up buying a Veloster N and could 't have been happier. I saved almost $11,000 and ended up with a better and faster car! No more stopping at Honda Dealerships for me. That was the last time back in 2022! They screwed up, now they must suffer for trying to rip me off! I always get even!
Was a long time honda fan and was going to finally come back and was looking at the new accord. Then I saw CVT transmission, nope not doing it. Why don't automobile manufacturers get the hint that consumers have said. We DO NOT WANT CVT'S
The automakers are having problems because they are building high tech, unreliable cars and charging too much for them. They have been forced into this by stronger government emissions and fuel economy regulations along with the need to still make a profit to stay in business. Forced to use higher technologies like CVT transmissions, complex multi speed transmissions, thinner lubricating oils, low resistance piston rings, , direct injection, complex electronics and low displacement turbocharged engines, the cars won't last as long and will be more expensive to maintain and repair. Those technologies can be made to be reliable and have longer lives but they would cost more than the consumer will or can pay. Forcing the world to electric vehicles, our reliable automobiles are being taken from us.
Bro what are you talking about. Honda has zero discounts anywhere close or away from me. They only have lease deals going on right now and all of the dealerships don't even have a lot of vehicles to choose from. Toyota on the other hand have so many Tundra and Tacoma's that they don't even know what to do with them.... at least here in my area.
It seems like u are reading a script from Honda America. My general feel is that the majority of the marketing and product development departments have messed up big time. No sympathy for getting it so wrong. If prices do actually drop, You'd have to be crazy not to take advantage.
Car prices have surged higher than almost any other product, and considering the overall inflation over the past four years, this is one of the primary reasons why new cars aren't selling well. Another significant factor is the decline in the production of affordable and reliable models by car manufacturers. A Civic, for instance, should ideally start at under $20K, with more feature-rich models naturally costing more. A fully loaded Civic should not exceed $29K. Additionally, high-interest rates have contributed to the current market conditions. Car manufacturers must also acknowledge that electric vehicles have gained popularity, but all-electric vehicles are not universally practical for most consumers. The charging time is often excessive, and their driving range falls short of most people's needs. While daily commuting in an electric vehicle may be suitable, long-distance travel, visiting family and friends, taking vacations, or shopping trips become impractical due to the time-consuming charging process.
Banks are also pulling away from car loans. The economy is not doing well, and they know the first loans people will default on are car loans. Banks that were heavily leveraged in car loans a year ago have pulled out. Consumers who still want to buy a car right now can't.
My biggest concern about EV’s is driving them when we are -5° throughout the month the range is cut short and unless you have places where you can keep charging your car up, you’re screwed, especially if you have a long commute. I always thought of EV’s whether true or not as overpriced commuter cars at least the ones they sell here in the US.
You are incorrect. The deep discounts today will cause significant depreciation in the vehicles that were purchased before the discounts were available, not the ones purchased with the discounts. Not sure you really understand the market.
Considered buying a Honda hybrid but the dealers were adding 2k plus for cars being “in demand and limited supply” Ended up getting a Mazda 1.5k below msrp
@ I live in New Orleans and leave my car parked in the airport outdoor parking for 10-15 days and I don’t get rust. Try again. Those cars have been there for months unmoved
Yeah, there’s no other headlines of Honda “slashes” prices. Total BS. They barely have any decent incentives. You mentioned CarEdge, and it seems you are echoing their hyperbolic posts.
Dan, I went to 2 different Honda Dealers in NJ and these Dealerships are NOT passing out much if any discounts on Accords. A $1,000 "discount" off the MSRP is replaced with $3,000 increase as add-ons!!! I have walked out of both Dealerships. So obviously HONDA MANUFACTURER and the Honda Dealerships are NOT on the same page at all.
Hondas problem is their dealer network. And Honda NA leaning into the price gouging and add ons that dealers force onto their customers, and positioned their brand pricing in locl step with the dealer markups. You can see this perfectly as you move up the Civic trim level, from base, to Hybrid, to Si, then to the Integra, back to the Civic Type-R, and then Integra Type-S. Feature segmentation and dealer markups go hand in hand with the MSRP adjustments. That's no accident. That's collusion. So, sorry, cry me a river that Honda and their crooked dealer network are taking it deep in the pockets. I literally had a Honda dealer tell me that they would NEVER reduce the dealer markup because "We sell Hondas, if you don't want it, someone else who does, will." The hubris is off the charts. Let them die on the vine, replete with inventory. Not a single consumer tear will be shed.
Last year I had to sell my car due to mechanical issues was able to get it repaired fully by dealer but decided it wasn’t worth the hassle anymore so I opted to find a new car. My first choice was a Honda Passport as I now had a family and needed more space than a sedan. My first car was a CRV and I loved it but no way was I going for a CVT. The dealer would not budge lower than $450 plus a hefty down payment for a 4 year old passport at 72 months financing and before any markups that they would not waive. The next was a RAV4 lease or used RAV4 adventure but every dealer had shady marketing and practices that would bump the price to nearly double what they were advertising or listed. They were also a nightmare to deal with. I ended up going with a Hyundai Tucson lease which beat the other ones at $450 a month w/ 15k miles a year with less down payment and the dealer experience was honestly a breeze i spent more time test driving different trims than negotiating which in hindsight i probably still could have negotiated leven less if i had more time on hand. I had a tougher time going through my insurance than the dealer and they treated us well. No reason for Honda to be charging so much especially after they had to recall millions of vehicles in the US alone. Shame because I love Honda and will always look fondly back at my CRV I would still be driving it today if it hadn’t gotten totaled years ago. Here’s hoping by the time the New Hybrid powertrain for the Pilot comes around their pricing and practices will improve
Not exactly sure where this information comes from but Hondas are selling very well. And there’s talk of something going on with Honda and Nissan either merging or taking over Nissan. Honda makes pretty good vehicles and most consumers are pretty satisfied when purchasing a product. Most complaints a pretty much simple to resolve and are basically covered under warranty. Best bet to travel coast to coast for many years is in a Honda vehicle. Even ‘used’ Hondas are selling pretty well too. And the insurance cost of a Honda is reasonable too.
They are HARMONIZING costs to subsidize EVs into IC costs . Those who sell Pickups putting CO2 Taxes they pay to make larger vehicles into cost of IC trucks . $$$$ consumers pay it all !
Was looking at a CRV and they were marked up heavily and finance rate is bad at 5%. Went browsing few blocks down the road and got a 2024 BMW X3 with M sport pack and gorgeous brown interior financed at 0.99% $49,000 6 yr 80K warranty. Got some freebies from the dealer like BMW Jackets, umbrellas and coffee mugs. My first time buying a BMW and so happy about my experience and got treated like a human being.
This is an example of just because you can sound correct doesn't make you correct. The Honda dealers in my area ain't overstocked and are also not offering any discounts.
Due to the low quality of a vehicles today with many plastic parts and glued engine components people are just not trusting the quality anymore and they will need bumper to bumper warranties that actually mean something not the 60k 3 year crap. That needs to be doubled right up front. Honestly I think we’re moving to a point where car manufacturers will be providing transportation solutions instead of selling individual cars that have become expensive. I.e. provide a monthly fee to have a car kind of like a lease that’s affordable and you can exchange your car every two or three years for a new model. Or using AI technology have driverless cars come pick you up whenever you need to go somewhere.
I drove nothing but Honda/Acura for my first 30 years of driving, but wouldn't buy anything they have released in the last decade or so. My last new Toyota was problematic garbage also, so I guess that is the state of the industry these days for the most part. Lower build/design quality, loads to stupid & gimmicky tech-bloat, & other unwanted additions that the crooked, out-of-control dealerships try to force on you for high prices.
It only affects the consumer if you truly feel as though you’re not gonna be keeping your car for six or seven years. If you plan on keeping your car for that long or longer, then it’s a no-brainer to purchase while the discounts are there.
I almost bought a new 2025 Honda Odyssey a few weeks ago as my 14 year old Odyssey was on the fritz. Despite the sales and tons of inventory, a top tier trim level Elite was still more expensive than a fully loaded Kia Carnival SX Prestige. I ended up with a new Kia because Honda technology and design is still stuck in 2017 compared to it's competitors. Plus my experience with my Honda Odyssey was full of expensive maintenance and repairs since the warranty expires so early.
I wouldn't touch a Hyundai/Kia due to all of their engine issues: eating engine oil due to failing piston rings, engine fires, engine blow-ups due to rod metal fatigue, high pressure valves failing. Yah no thanks.
@riseabove3082 that's exactly what i thought too. Also all the news about them being easily stolen too. However when I researched the issue Kia and Hyundai engine issues are on their 4 cylinder GDI only engines. Meanwhile the Kia Carnival has a multiport V6 and has a good track record of reliability. And Kia 2021 and up have immobilizer making them difficult to steal. Considering that my Honda odyssey had lots of engine and suspension issues that was all out of warranty costing me lots of money, when compared to Kia and long powertrain warranty, it was hard for me to choose another Honda.
This videos in my YT algorithm never show any proof of what they speak. Where was this “announcement”? Where is a picture of sticker with these “lowered” prices? Being full of crap should bother you!!!
It’s funny that you mention the risk of depreciation! That is such a joke that you would even say that! As the thousands of people that were either affected by hail, fire, tornado, or just a car accident or just a plain ole accident, how much the value of their car did the insurance company actually value it at or pay them out because they totaled the vehicle! I can guarantee you 100% that the risk of depreciation the minute we drive it off. The lot is 1000%. It will never be worth what the dealership had it sitting on there a lot!!!! so what’s don’t falsely advertise that we should be aware of what the depreciation of a vehicle is because I think the consumer already knows and yes, you’re correct. We should be worried about that because then that means the dealership gets to sit with those vehicles, not us as the consumer!
I got a 2023 Ridgeline RTL-E off the lot brand new at $42k and change. They've been in trouble for a while. Hell, merging with Nissan and Mitsubishi is evidence enough that they are not doing well. Nissan has become the Dodge/Chrysler of Japan. This is a shame. Honda makes excellent vehicles.
You do know manufacturers consider a 60 day supply to be ideal. So the numbers you talk about being significantly less than that are actually shortages and it will still be hard to get the Honda you want. Making piece is just so much misinformation.
Interest rates are Honda’s biggest problem. I bought a 24’ Civic back in March but was able to get $3.5k off msrp. When you look at the pricing of a 2005 Hybrid Civic and consider inflation Honda’s pricing isn’t far off (maybe $200). Not every brand was like the domestics and raised prices 60-80%. Some actually aligned it with inflation
Probably because they are building crap! I have a 2017 CRV and as soon as I hit 100,000 miles everything went wrong. I had to spend 6,000 in 1 month on repairs. New head gasket, new turbo, new fuel injector kit. And I take excellent care of my car and change oil every 5,000 miles. Will NEVER by another one. If you have doubts about what I’m saying google it and see all of the people with the same issues.
Hybrids are a new technology with unproven scientific tests on effect of high voltage and electromagnetic effects on human cell. The Faraday cage effect on electromagnetic effects of giant motors on human body cells are relatively untested and unknown.
That Prologue uses the GM based Equinox electric vehicle technology and some other features also In addition, the lame redesign or refresh of the Accord has many loosing interest in it
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I tried giving Honda my money the last 3 years. But they refuse to sell me a Civic at MSRP without stupid add ons. I am done with them forever!
Happened to me last Saturday. I have good credit and $12,000 cash to put down. They refused to budge. " It's already on the car"
@@Offensively-normalbut yet when you have add ons on your used car they claim they add no value lol
Take the12k and buy a car for cash.
All dealerships do this. We walked away from a GMC 2500 diesel pickup a few years ago, haggling over add ons we didn’t want and didn’t even believe we’re on the truck. Dealer wouldn’t budge and we walked.
My sister wanted the new Civic SI in red and they wouldn't take off any of the $8k add-ons. She went to another Honda dealer and they ordered the one she wanted without any add-ons.
I don’t know where he got this information, but I haven’t seen any discounts on Hondas! When I go to websites on individual dealers, none of them are advertising any kind of big discounts.😂
Same here
Nope. They are more expensive than ever unless you are rich.
Were you perhaps browsing the comedy central sites?
Just got a "VIP" e-mail (lol) from my local Honda dealer listing 12 specific VINs with "Instant Savings" ranging from $2250 to $4250. Most were in the $3,50 to $3,600 range.
Prices went up around $1k in my area on 2025’s.
Pure bs. There are no discounts on Hondas in this area.
Thanks
I agree
Where is this happening? What price cuts? A $500 rebate? 😂😂😂
This is all bs. Honda sales are way up.
@fredtv: A $99 dollars rebates lol. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@checoPH Misinformation for sure.
The “rebates” are on leases….
I went to the Honda dealership a few weeks ago to get a recall service done. It was busy with customers and their inventory looked different from a couple of months ago. The service writer told me they have been consistent with sales.
My local Honda dealer has been sending these scammy looking emails trying to get some attention. 😂 Last time I was in there their mark ups were astronomical! I hope they get their deserved!
Tons of greedy add ons
Got my licence at 16 and have been driving Honda ever since. I am 44 now and wont be buying another one. I bought my last Accord in 2018. I was shocked when I went to look at new ones. Over 40k for an Accord and over 30k for a Civic !!! I was affraid to look at Pilot or CRV. I dont think raising prices by 15-20k in 6 years Is only due to production costs.
The transmission in my Honda Accord died at 59,000 miles. I got a Civic that was much better and faster. The old Civics are much better than the new Civics. Many new Civics have CVT transmissions made in Mexico. Hybrid/turbos can wear out engines faster.
All vehicles are over priced.
07 camry 154k. almost bought an accord but this came up in 2018 when i bought it. what r u going to do now?
I have to say, Honda holds their value in resale.
It’s not. You’re right. Part of the expense of every new car is money for EV development.
I’m done ever trying to buy Hondas. Their dealer experience is by far the worst. Obviously there are good and bad dealers everywhere but I’ve yet to find a good one around me. Buying our Odyssey was a nightmare. They give a price quote via email and over the phone saying the vehicle was on the lot, then show up and the van isn’t there and there’s a markup they claim “Honda makes them charge everybody.”
Trying to buy a civic si a few years ago, I told another dealer I would not pay over msrp and their response was “why should we sell one to you at msrp if you could turn around and sell it for more.” I had no intention of flipping the car and how is that a good sales tactic?
Have you been to Toyota? They act like they're gifts from the car gods and expect you to bend over. Nope.
i am out of this charade. bought my camry in 18. will avoid any dealership until it dies. only has 154k. i sold cars in college. i would recommend expanding ur buying radius.
@@hankitytankity I inquired about a Sienna before we got the Odyssey and it was a long wait list so we moved on. Our local Toyota dealer says they only charge msrp but they do have their $1,995 dealer accessories they require so essentially a $2k markup.
I noticed all the dealers around me also add all that dealer accessory crap to used cars now too.
@@John-vh1fk It's not just the markups. It's their attitude like I own you if you want a car here. Toyota was just real creepy.
Weird, everywhere I look i see that sales are way up. Including the data that Honda itself released said that there was a 20% increase in Civic sales. 11% growth in Honda sales in the US
longtime loyal Honda owner and I passed on the new CRV as I dont want a CVT.
Honda SUVs are boxy looking. Subaru Cross Treks are popular and much more stylish looking.
@@ganymeade5151 Both Honda & Subaru build some FUGLY & cut-rate looking vehicles. So does Toyota for that matter.
get the hybrid model, the e-cvt marketed by honda isn’t a cvt at all, it just drives like a cvt, it’s actually a direct drive system where the power goes directly from the engine to the electric generator to the electric motors to the wheels.
LMAOOOO the CRV has had a CVT for over a decade wake up
Same...1.5ltr turbos , no thanks...Not a fan of the cvt.
Still sitting on two recalls for my 2024 CRV that Honda can't repair due to lack of parts... really disappointing
Honda using turbocharged engines in all their cars now. Probably a big reason no one wants them.
And ‘rubber band’ transmissions...
The hybrids are not turbocharged and a huge percentage of their sales now are hybrids.
We recently shopped our local Honda dealer here in central FL. There were NO price cuts and they also had addendum stickers with up to $4,000 in add on's(yes, they are still trying to charge for nitrogen in tires here in FL). We looked at a HRV, no movement on their sticker price. Went to Buick and bought a Envista Avenir trim. Much smoother ride, more upscale interior, thousands of $$ less, and got under invoice price with NO add's. The engine is tiny but for a around town car for the wife with a hatchback it is a excellent vehicle. So, Honda still thinks they can over charge just for the Honda name. I think they are in big trouble with that attitude.
good for u. mazda subaru kia taking share from honda and toyota
If Honda dealers would stop adding mandatory markups of literal junk products (e.g. "paint protection" = glorified wax job for $699; door edge film for $399, etc) to the "affordable" trim levels, they'd probably move a helluva lot more of them. For now, I'll keep driving my 2018 because at my age, I'll likely die before it does.
Most of these brands are not necessarily lowering prices , but rather introducing lower priced stripped down base models! Still, A Civic shouldn’t cost $30k
Civic sales went up 20.8% in 2024 compared to 2023 sales.
Poor quality, CVT transmissions, direct injection engines, recalls, high prices - Honda is not what it used to be.
Do not leave out turbos. they destroy the engine.
Honda CVTs are very reliable. Nissans and Chrysler products are whole different matter.
Blown HG is now a norm in their 1.5 turbo
It’s very simple. Honda dealers Jack up the cost with unnecessary items adding thousands to the price. Dealer fees and padding the interest rates make buying a used car more attractive.
The core of the problem is all the greed across every automaker.
inflation to me is unchecked greed.
@@subaruamazon Greedflation
It’s because the accord and civic have gotten uglier with less to offer. Getting rid of the V6 and removing sunroofs from certain packages was a disservice. Plus, they raised prices.
The title of this video. I’d say isn’t true. From what iv seen
I am not sure about this claim. My local Honda dealer (in Denver) only has (1) Accord and (1) Civic on their lot for sale currently. They have no problems selling what little inventory they have.
Clickbate crap. Honda is NOT cutting prices as explained. The only car they are heavily discounting is the EV Prologue which is a GM car anyway.
@@TaillightSolution This video is total bs.
... laughable , please tell us where these dealers are at - small towns ? because here in the Northeast we Never see Any of these so called discounts - not just Honda but any auto dealerships - ...
I stopped by a Honda dealership in 2022 to buy a Honda Civic Type R. They wanted almost $5,000 more than MSRP. I laughed in the sales manager's fat face! I ended up buying a Veloster N and could 't have been happier. I saved almost $11,000 and ended up with a better and faster car! No more stopping at Honda Dealerships for me. That was the last time back in 2022! They screwed up, now they must suffer for trying to rip me off! I always get even!
This is the problem with YpuTube, it's BS. All car sales are down. Honda is not dumping their cars.
Was a long time honda fan and was going to finally come back and was looking at the new accord. Then I saw CVT transmission, nope not doing it. Why don't automobile manufacturers get the hint that consumers have said. We DO NOT WANT CVT'S
The automakers are having problems because they are building high tech, unreliable cars and charging too much for them. They have been forced into this by stronger government emissions and fuel economy regulations along with the need to still make a profit to stay in business. Forced to use higher technologies like CVT transmissions, complex multi speed transmissions, thinner lubricating oils, low resistance piston rings, , direct injection, complex electronics and low displacement turbocharged engines, the cars won't last as long and will be more expensive to maintain and repair. Those technologies can be made to be reliable and have longer lives but they would cost more than the consumer will or can pay. Forcing the world to electric vehicles, our reliable automobiles are being taken from us.
People are disenchanted will all new vehicles, and for good reason.
Bro what are you talking about. Honda has zero discounts anywhere close or away from me. They only have lease deals going on right now and all of the dealerships don't even have a lot of vehicles to choose from. Toyota on the other hand have so many Tundra and Tacoma's that they don't even know what to do with them.... at least here in my area.
He's engagement farming. He provided no source and is deleting comments he doesn't like pointing out he provided no source for his title.
If you think Honda is having problems now, wait until they have to take on Nissan's problems, too. That ought to be a real clown show.
Well said.
There is no evidence of this in my area. Civic sales, in particular, are enjoying a big sales increase because of the new hybrid lineup.
The new Civic Hybrids are awesome! Owners and journalists rave about them.
It seems like u are reading a script from Honda America. My general feel is that the majority of the marketing and product development departments have messed up big time. No sympathy for getting it so wrong. If prices do actually drop, You'd have to be crazy not to take advantage.
Car prices have surged higher than almost any other product, and considering the overall inflation over the past four years, this is one of the primary reasons why new cars aren't selling well. Another significant factor is the decline in the production of affordable and reliable models by car manufacturers. A Civic, for instance, should ideally start at under $20K, with more feature-rich models naturally costing more. A fully loaded Civic should not exceed $29K. Additionally, high-interest rates have contributed to the current market conditions. Car manufacturers must also acknowledge that electric vehicles have gained popularity, but all-electric vehicles are not universally practical for most consumers. The charging time is often excessive, and their driving range falls short of most people's needs. While daily commuting in an electric vehicle may be suitable, long-distance travel, visiting family and friends, taking vacations, or shopping trips become impractical due to the time-consuming charging process.
Banks are also pulling away from car loans. The economy is not doing well, and they know the first loans people will default on are car loans. Banks that were heavily leveraged in car loans a year ago have pulled out. Consumers who still want to buy a car right now can't.
My biggest concern about EV’s is driving them when we are -5° throughout the month the range is cut short and unless you have places where you can keep charging your car up, you’re screwed, especially if you have a long commute. I always thought of EV’s whether true or not as overpriced commuter cars at least the ones they sell here in the US.
I want to save now; I am at the age where my next new car will be my last.
Keep your current car. Be cheaper in the long run
Absolutely. Decisions on last things are very important.
Fake news video
Please don't believe everything on You Tube!
My Honda place is always packed.
My salesman sells on a good day 5 Honda's a day!
You are incorrect. The deep discounts today will cause significant depreciation in the vehicles that were purchased before the discounts were available, not the ones purchased with the discounts. Not sure you really understand the market.
Considered buying a Honda hybrid but the dealers were adding 2k plus for cars being “in demand and limited supply”
Ended up getting a Mazda 1.5k below msrp
I walked an Acura lot about a month ago and the cars rotors had layers of rust from sitting so long
That happens in 2 days, non issue.
@ not to the degree they had
All rotors get a film of rust when they sit in humidity.
@ I live in New Orleans and leave my car parked in the airport outdoor parking for 10-15 days and I don’t get rust. Try again. Those cars have been there for months unmoved
Dude? This is most useless and long winded video EVER. Don't waste your time time this guy. He is reading off AI articles with NO ACTUAL INFORMATION.
Not only are there no discounts in my area but they add on 3-4 thousand dollars worth of dealer installed BS that nobody wants.
Can't believe they're still using belt drive on their engines
That Honda service department is more profitable than the sales department
Yeah, there’s no other headlines of Honda “slashes” prices. Total BS. They barely have any decent incentives. You mentioned CarEdge, and it seems you are echoing their hyperbolic posts.
Every other day the car market is imploding according to these guys. They’re trying to drive traffic to their website. That’s it.
This guy lives in la la land. He actually thinks people want EVs
@@LeadfootLou actually I live in Washington state.
@@everymandriver Makes sense. You need more sunlight.
@@everymandriver This video is complete bs.
Dan, I went to 2 different Honda Dealers in NJ and these Dealerships are NOT passing out much if any discounts on Accords. A $1,000 "discount" off the MSRP is replaced with $3,000 increase as add-ons!!! I have walked out of both Dealerships. So obviously HONDA MANUFACTURER and the Honda Dealerships are NOT on the same page at all.
Honda is paying big money to the media to have them lie about price cuts
Price cuts: MSRP
Learn how to negotiate properly with a dealership. I recently got $3200 off MSRP and a free remote start on a new Toyota.
His information isn't here in S,C, PRICES here are going up on honda's
Another lying video about a car company “in trouble”
Unfortunately, his sensationalism from his newscast days carries over hard here.
Yeah, I don’t know what’s happened to him. I used to love this channel. Now it’s mostly negative.
Hondas problem is their dealer network. And Honda NA leaning into the price gouging and add ons that dealers force onto their customers, and positioned their brand pricing in locl step with the dealer markups. You can see this perfectly as you move up the Civic trim level, from base, to Hybrid, to Si, then to the Integra, back to the Civic Type-R, and then Integra Type-S. Feature segmentation and dealer markups go hand in hand with the MSRP adjustments. That's no accident. That's collusion.
So, sorry, cry me a river that Honda and their crooked dealer network are taking it deep in the pockets.
I literally had a Honda dealer tell me that they would NEVER reduce the dealer markup because "We sell Hondas, if you don't want it, someone else who does, will." The hubris is off the charts.
Let them die on the vine, replete with inventory. Not a single consumer tear will be shed.
I am not interested in a direct injection or turbo engine Honda even if I was willing to buy a new car.
Why did I watch another one of your hard up videos?
You definitely are giving Honda more promo , I have seen more CRVs , Accords and the New Pilot in high numbers in Columbus, Ohio
So why is Honda acquiring Nissan?
Great question. This is hype as usual. The DOL are no higher than 70 days. The normal was always 90 so this a true non news story.
Japan govt forced Honda , Nissan was toast
Because Nissan is really struggling and can’t afford to develop new electric vehicles on their own. The Japanese government is pushing this merger.
@@michaelfoulkes9502 so Japan needs to subsidize Honda then
checked 3 websites. none has any discounts.
We Americans are BROKE. Price cuts aren’t even enough right now. We are lucky to have food.
Multiple recalls, blown HG, CVT failure are some of the problems at Honda.
Not to mention the disastrous Honda Chevy Blazer EV. 😂
When I'm buying a new car, a lower price is always better than a higher price.
I will take my savings up front thank you. Not worried about resale.
I would love to buy a new car. However, they are much too expensive.
civic $35 000 : really? too pricey for a small car, nope not for me...
I have a 2014 civic 160k miles and no repairs. I am afraid to buy a new one.
Last year I had to sell my car due to mechanical issues was able to get it repaired fully by dealer but decided it wasn’t worth the hassle anymore so I opted to find a new car. My first choice was a Honda Passport as I now had a family and needed more space than a sedan. My first car was a CRV and I loved it but no way was I going for a CVT. The dealer would not budge lower than $450 plus a hefty down payment for a 4 year old passport at 72 months financing and before any markups that they would not waive. The next was a RAV4 lease or used RAV4 adventure but every dealer had shady marketing and practices that would bump the price to nearly double what they were advertising or listed. They were also a nightmare to deal with. I ended up going with a Hyundai Tucson lease which beat the other ones at $450 a month w/ 15k miles a year with less down payment and the dealer experience was honestly a breeze i spent more time test driving different trims than negotiating which in hindsight i probably still could have negotiated leven less if i had more time on hand.
I had a tougher time going through my insurance than the dealer and they treated us well. No reason for Honda to be charging so much especially after they had to recall millions of vehicles in the US alone. Shame because I love Honda and will always look fondly back at my CRV I would still be driving it today if it hadn’t gotten totaled years ago.
Here’s hoping by the time the New Hybrid powertrain for the Pilot comes around their pricing and practices will improve
covid remnants are still with us. dont know if things will ever go back to normal.
No price cuts in MN. New civic $26,000. New Toyota Corolla, $24,000. Zero price cuts in Minnesota, no cuts here. Same price as last year.
Not exactly sure where this information comes from but Hondas are selling very well. And there’s talk of something going on with Honda and Nissan either merging or taking over Nissan. Honda makes pretty good vehicles and most consumers are pretty satisfied when purchasing a product. Most complaints a pretty much simple to resolve and are basically covered under warranty. Best bet to travel coast to coast for many years is in a Honda vehicle. Even ‘used’ Hondas are selling pretty well too. And the insurance cost of a Honda is reasonable too.
He told you where it comes from-Car Edge. They monitor vehicle inventories.
@ Anybody can ‘monitor’ car inventories it’s an available public information act.
Honda wanted $37k for a loaded Civic vs $42k for a beautiful BMW 330i. Went withthe BMW
RUclipsrs see $50 rebate they run with it
Massive price cuts click baits
Why are you deleting posts? Provide a source for you claim. Honda says sales are up 10% year over year for December.
They are HARMONIZING costs to subsidize EVs into IC costs . Those who sell
Pickups putting CO2 Taxes they pay to make larger vehicles into cost of IC trucks . $$$$ consumers pay it all !
No deals in Ontario Canada: just greed
Honda is way over priced for their plastic toys.
Was looking at a CRV and they were marked up heavily and finance rate is bad at 5%. Went browsing few blocks down the road and got a 2024 BMW X3 with M sport pack and gorgeous brown interior financed at 0.99% $49,000 6 yr 80K warranty. Got some freebies from the dealer like BMW Jackets, umbrellas and coffee mugs. My first time buying a BMW and so happy about my experience and got treated like a human being.
This is an example of just because you can sound correct doesn't make you correct. The Honda dealers in my area ain't overstocked and are also not offering any discounts.
Due to the low quality of a vehicles today with many plastic parts and glued engine components people are just not trusting the quality anymore and they will need bumper to bumper warranties that actually mean something not the 60k 3 year crap. That needs to be doubled right up front. Honestly I think we’re moving to a point where car manufacturers will be providing transportation solutions instead of selling individual cars that have become expensive. I.e. provide a monthly fee to have a car kind of like a lease that’s affordable and you can exchange your car every two or three years for a new model. Or using AI technology have driverless cars come pick you up whenever you need to go somewhere.
Cvt junk
Honda is fine, but the biggest drag on their numbers is that the Accord is the ugliest generation since the 2008 models lol
Whoever designed the new accord should be fired
@@bobbyrivera2951 the thing is hideous from every angle....
I drove nothing but Honda/Acura for my first 30 years of driving, but wouldn't buy anything they have released in the last decade or so. My last new Toyota was problematic garbage also, so I guess that is the state of the industry these days for the most part. Lower build/design quality, loads to stupid & gimmicky tech-bloat, & other unwanted additions that the crooked, out-of-control dealerships try to force on you for high prices.
HONDA JUST RELEASED THEIR SALES FIGURES FOR LAST YEAR. 10% INCREASE OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR. ENJOY YOUR 15 MINUTES OF FAME.
AND HONDA CIVIC HYBRID NAMED NORTH AMERICAN CAR OF THE YEAR FOR 2025.
what universe do u live in
It only affects the consumer if you truly feel as though you’re not gonna be keeping your car for six or seven years. If you plan on keeping your car for that long or longer, then it’s a no-brainer to purchase while the discounts are there.
No offense, but
what SIZE shovel
does this guy use
on these”truthful”
videos? 😳😬.CB
I almost bought a new 2025 Honda Odyssey a few weeks ago as my 14 year old Odyssey was on the fritz. Despite the sales and tons of inventory, a top tier trim level Elite was still more expensive than a fully loaded Kia Carnival SX Prestige. I ended up with a new Kia because Honda technology and design is still stuck in 2017 compared to it's competitors. Plus my experience with my Honda Odyssey was full of expensive maintenance and repairs since the warranty expires so early.
I wouldn't touch a Hyundai/Kia due to all of their engine issues: eating engine oil due to failing piston rings, engine fires, engine blow-ups due to rod metal fatigue, high pressure valves failing. Yah no thanks.
@riseabove3082 that's exactly what i thought too. Also all the news about them being easily stolen too. However when I researched the issue Kia and Hyundai engine issues are on their 4 cylinder GDI only engines. Meanwhile the Kia Carnival has a multiport V6 and has a good track record of reliability. And Kia 2021 and up have immobilizer making them difficult to steal. Considering that my Honda odyssey had lots of engine and suspension issues that was all out of warranty costing me lots of money, when compared to Kia and long powertrain warranty, it was hard for me to choose another Honda.
Yea. Yea. Raise 10 thousand. Lower 5 thousand
This videos in my YT algorithm never show any proof of what they speak. Where was this “announcement”? Where is a picture of sticker with these “lowered” prices? Being full of crap should bother you!!!
cars are designed for the mind. SUVs are designed for bodies. more practical. better sales. when will makers learn?
they may not. it could bring down Honda.
What are you reading from? Watching you read off a cheat sheet takes the personal connection from your audience.
It’s funny that you mention the risk of depreciation! That is such a joke that you would even say that! As the thousands of people that were either affected by hail, fire, tornado, or just a car accident or just a plain ole accident, how much the value of their car did the insurance company actually value it at or pay them out because they totaled the vehicle! I can guarantee you 100% that the risk of depreciation the minute we drive it off. The lot is 1000%. It will never be worth what the dealership had it sitting on there a lot!!!! so what’s don’t falsely advertise that we should be aware of what the depreciation of a vehicle is because I think the consumer already knows and yes, you’re correct. We should be worried about that because then that means the dealership gets to sit with those vehicles, not us as the consumer!
I got a 2023 Ridgeline RTL-E off the lot brand new at $42k and change. They've been in trouble for a while. Hell, merging with Nissan and Mitsubishi is evidence enough that they are not doing well. Nissan has become the Dodge/Chrysler of Japan. This is a shame. Honda makes excellent vehicles.
I have been shopping a prologe and ridgeline lease and they will just not move on price . Dealers are just not desperate enough yet
Got love these cars sales lobbyests
BS, no Pilots or Passports on lots here!?
Go ahead and post the link to the "discount dealers" you're speaking about.
Bring back the Fit
I would buy one in a heartbeat!
I paid 500$ over msrp for a honda civic Sport in march 2024. Best i could do in my area.
Honda should a Civic/Accord Station-Wgon again, much nicer/cheaper/safer than those, heavy, SUV's😮
That's not what people want.
People want vehicles that sit up higher.
You do know manufacturers consider a 60 day supply to be ideal. So the numbers you talk about being significantly less than that are actually shortages and it will still be hard to get the Honda you want. Making piece is just so much misinformation.
Interest rates are Honda’s biggest problem. I bought a 24’ Civic back in March but was able to get $3.5k off msrp. When you look at the pricing of a 2005 Hybrid Civic and consider inflation Honda’s pricing isn’t far off (maybe $200). Not every brand was like the domestics and raised prices 60-80%. Some actually aligned it with inflation
The dealership is the problem with the so called market adjustment and forced options
Probably because they are building crap! I have a 2017 CRV and as soon as I hit 100,000 miles everything went wrong. I had to spend 6,000 in 1 month on repairs. New head gasket, new turbo, new fuel injector kit. And I take excellent care of my car and change oil every 5,000 miles. Will NEVER by another one. If you have doubts about what I’m saying google it and see all of the people with the same issues.
Hybrids are a new technology with unproven scientific tests on effect of high voltage and electromagnetic effects on human cell. The Faraday cage effect on electromagnetic effects of giant motors on human body cells are relatively untested and unknown.
That Prologue uses the GM based Equinox electric vehicle technology and some other features also
In addition, the lame redesign or refresh of the Accord has many loosing interest in it