@QueenChioma So you're immigrant, sister Rihanna isn't a baby mama? Or is that just relegated for black Americans? Cause last I checked, she's not married and has two kids out of wedlock.
I met a woman who waited, the man didn't marry her, she went to court after 22 years and took his last name and he got angry. He told her you're still not my wife and I' see other women, he died within a year from an affair
I think Queen is starting to lose interest. Her face and demeanor with those flowers said it all. Never forget, women check out emotionally before we leave..
Ego and probably the length of time together. It's not a good reason logically, but when you're in those types of relationships it's easy to get in that mindset @@notyourfrind9415
The reason why these folks are scared of marriage but not having babies is because being a parent gives them authority over a child. If there’s ever an argument or disagreement, the dad can easily step out or the mom can take the kid away for the weekend without dealing with the partner
Feel cuz it's easy and uses less thought to make a child. Marriage calls for thought and planning to propose. People just be horny and don't bother to use protection, ends up having a child and go "damn, we'll, guess we have to take of this damn thing now"
Men know exactly who they want. That’s why sometimes men will leave a relationship and jump into one with another woman and marry her quick fast and in a hurry. Every married man I’ve spoken to has proposed the same year they asked their now wives to be their girlfriend or under 2 years.
I never liked Clarence. He is the definition of a stereotypical dusty. Misogynistic, thinks he’s a prize, greedy , selfish, overly materialistic with little to no ambition. If it wasn’t for queen he’d still be in his mommas basement with 200k ig followers
I’ve been married for 6 years. After going through having 2 babies it is insane to have kids and THEN try to get married. My daddy always said…fastest way to lose a man is to have his baby” Men need a reason to marry you. If you give him wife privileges before being a wife…why make you a wife? 🤷🏽♀️
@@Glamlarry I said the same thing! Especially in 2024, a lot of men now don’t even see the value in marriage. You’re already doing everything a wife would do for him so why would he marry you? We gotta stop ts.
@@inmyOWN_world It's easy because we're in control. Women need to stop giving womb access to bums who do the bare minimum. I'd never let a man have me if we aren't married. & never let them manipulate you into a quick marriage either. Marrying a man you truly don't know is like being caught in a spider's web. Decenter them and think rationally, I can assure you the result would be different. Most men are NOT worth the trouble. Insecure women with codependency issues are desperate for male validation, that's why they attract narcissists who leech off their energy.
@@inmyOWN_worldPoint being, you know a man's true intentions when you deny him whatever it is he's seeking. They're nice when you say yes, pay attention to their true colors when you say no. I've had Mr.Nice guys ghost me for not giving them access to my boundaries. Too many women are out here being gaslit into not trusting their intuition.
When she said she will leave after 10 years. Clarence made up in his mind that he has 4 more years to waste her time. I hope she realizes what’s happening so she can get what she wants in the end….with the right man
It’s just something about the tone of his voice, bless Queen but I don’t think he’s going to marry her😩😩 he definitely holding on to them last 4 years for dear life💀
As a married woman, I think a lot of people who say “divorce rate high, it’s a business, etc…” are playing house with someone they are luke warm about and instead of being alone they’d rather settle with that excuse. When you are truly with the right person you jump for the opportunity to solidify and make a commitment through marriage. Marriage is not hard. Life is hard which can throw curve balls at your relationship but with the right person you successfully make it through those hurdles together.
i wish more women took the time and let a man court you before you do wifely duties to a man with no ring PSA THIS IS NOT ABOUT COOKING AND CLEANING yall should already do that we are adults. this is about things like having kids, buying property together, cars etc. i’m saying save that for marriage and if you don’t believe in marriage fine by me.
This why I'm staying a virgin til I get a ring idc how long it takes at this point cause it's too many women becoming mothers before they are wives and it's embarrassing 🤦🏽♀️ I'm newly 21 still a virgin
keep doing so! i am not (once) and i wont say i necessarily regret it but i do feel like once i did ive learned that its 1000% better to wait till marriage 😂 i wont say its wrong to not wait bcus things happen but it does make life easier ! less to worry abt and the relationship is built on more than just lust bcus it can cloud yr judgement.
I met a man that told me he’s scared of marriage after I told him my future plans to marry THEN have a baby. He began to handle me like I’m a woman desperate for marriage. lol little does he know, it’s not a need, it’s just a requirement for me to give birth. I’m not committing to any man that doesn’t check all the yes boxes! Let alone push his kid. Tf?
Yeah some men try to hold that over these women’s head when they do desperate stuff like them, u tat a mans face on u give him babies take him back over and over that shows him u want that ring BAD and they use that against her and they’ll never give it to her
This!!! Im literally the Same you Marry me or no kids and no living together. my mom always says you can’t do wife duties without having the wife title. And she is right.
seriously, i’m only a teenager but seeing all these women hanging on to a man who clearly doesn’t want nothing more from them but sex is a prime example as to why I should wait until marriage.
I feel like if you’re serious about wanting to be married then that should be made very clear to your partner AND stand firm on not moving like a wife without the ring, no shacking up & definitely no babies!
I agree but disagree that we shouldn’t be doing wifey things before marriage. We should be moving like a wife to a certain extent because how else are men gonna decide if they wanna make us their wife if we don’t demonstrate what kind of wife we would be? Men are not gonna take a gamble and find out after marriage. Only in a fantasy world lol. Gotta stop pushing that message
@@ChocolateJaii I thought it was evident but maybe not by “Moving like a wife” I meant the core things like living together & birthing children. I don’t think it makes sense for women who value marriage to also not show up as the wife they want to be
I watched a video a couple of years ago that was like “they wont last” and in one of their vlogs, there was a bunch of trash in the background, and she asked him to take it out 😅 I cant remember the other stuff but he just gives Handsome Bum™️
@@angelray688 see thats weaponized incompetence or just pure laziness. Its leaking so you wont double bag it and take it out? He’d rather let it leak on the floor 🤢
It really is 😅 I don’t want to highlight someone else’s misery because I wouldn’t want someone to shine a mirror on me, but man oh man, they sworn that light skin/nonBlack women are so above dark skin/Black women yet they end up in the same position or worse.
@xshesyourqorqeousxx3 I truly hate colorism and never ever has any woman been exempt from any man's bullshit cause she was light skinned with wavy hair. I can attest to that personally.
@@shawnm.martin5721many of the men who fetishize them treat them badly as soon as the woman isn’t doing or behaving like the man believes they should. Those men snatch those masks right off.
@@xshesyourqorqeousxx3 because men that date women based only on these shallow preferences are usually stupid and full of themselves and take recruiting and hooking these women as some societal goal rather than actually caring for them as people and a respected partner
I do agree that marriage is a more serious and official declaration of a committed relationship. It’s weird how people are hesitant to marry someone, but will have a whole child with them as if it’s no big deal. It sounds like Big Sean is waiting for the “perfect” moment to marry Jhene, but as you’ve said, no relationship is perfect.
And having a kid with someone actually attaches you to someone permanently. A marriage, you can always separate and divorce. When the divorce is finalized, you don't ever have to worry about that person again. With a child, you have to deal with not only the child but the other parent too for at least 18 years.
That’s because marriage actually requires working together to solve issues. A child doesn’t because as a a parent you have authority over your children’s privacy, what they eat, wear, hangout with, and medical care. And children are expected to obey. In a marriage? Not so much. It’s not a partnership if the husband is being an asshole
I agree. Waiting on the perfect moment or for there to never be a “problem” will keep couples single. Marriage isn’t a fix it for a relationship nor is a baby.
I mean, a child is an entire human being that will some day contribute to society in some way. I feel like that's a much bigger responsibility and is why marriage to the right partner is so important beforehand. I know life isn't perfect, but in the case of these two they had all the resources AND status to create the loving home and family they want but still choose someone who doesn't value them equally. And this is why I'm in therapy now because I think generational trauma is so deep that even when given an opportunity to do the right thing for ourselves, without true self worth you end up putting others before yourself and I'm trying to get out of that mindset. All the women in my family judge me for being 34 and not married and although that is a desire of mines I don't want to settle and I refuse to have a child without the safety and security of a marriage.
It’s really disrespectful when you think about it. There basically saying your good enough to have sex with and be a human incubator for there kids; but not good enough for serious commitment or be a life long partner 😐
It's the same way how most men don't even be asking these women to be their girlfriends. They just been going with the flow and assume "well, we bf and gf now". And the women just settle and accept it
Yes. Like no you have to explicitly say it so it’s no confusion. My now husband asked me about 3 years ago to be his girlfriend after a date to the movies. It was so romantic like a movie. I started crying like a punk lol
@@hannahzeplin2794 so sweet though. Tears of joy🥰 That is romantic. My boyfriend asked me as well. We‘re long distance so he couldn‘t wait and made a shirt asking if I wanna be his girlfriend and wore it when he facetimed me😢 I always thought it is important to be officially asked. Same like a marriage proposal. Just so nobody is confused. But you gotta make it a requirement.
@@queenofsheba5846 yes he took me by the water and asked me while the waves were crashing against the rocks. It was midnight so he told me to look up at the stars and then asked the question. If we had not been only seeing each other for 3 days at that point, would have thought he was proposing lol
My husband and I had a conversation about this topic. His thoughts: by having a baby for a man without being married, he now has no reason to marry you. You’ll forever be his and he will have access into your life forever. For most men this is a win.
I think the biggest problem is a lot of people do marriage things before being married ie moving in , sharing finances, buying homes and having kids without being married and for most men they’ll test how far you’re willing to go with the least amount of commitment possible and if you don’t uphold those boundaries of I won’t provide certain luxuries without being married they’ll take and take and take and next thing you know you’ll end up like jhene or queen because they’ve given the luxuries a wife would give without actually being one now they’re begging for greater commitment after they’ve already giving their all.I mean why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free. If you’ve been with someone a decade or damn near a decade and yall have had children, bought houses, shared finances and you want marriage and you still don’t have it your time is being wasted
@@se2664I knew a girl from one of my old jobs who was with her man for a decade. They were probably living together the whole time too. Well, she ended up having a baby and guess what? He dipped. Now she’s a single mom.
My friend was a single mom meet her boyfriend they moved in together two years later married and bought a house. He takes care of her son like his…it depends on the man… if he’s not serious he’ll never be serious regardless if you live with him or not. A lot of women be with men who are not serious that’s where the problem come from.
@@aspyn.j_ yup a coworker of mine recently moved in with her boyfriend and they broke up after less than 2 months of living together. So now he’s threatening to break the lease 🤷🏾♀️ moral of the story js to stop living with temporary boyfriends unless you can easily afford a 2 bedroom by yourself
I hear a lot of people (mostly men) say “Oh well marriage is a big commitment” sir… a CHILD is a big commitment! If you’re not willing to put a ring on it then you shouldn’t have children// children should not be in the picture as of yet. If you aren’t ready to settle down maybe they’re not the one for you and that’s ok, find someone who is and wants to be with you and only you.❤️
Another tiktoker said that some men feel like a child is ok bc it doesn’t require the same amount of effort that being a good husband does and THAT is what they fear. They fear being a bad husband and the thought that if a divorce were to come they would lose a lot more as opposed to being put on papers for child support. She said more but she was truly spitting
@@lrs1519 I know that you’re only repeating what a tiktoker said about this, but I think it’s interesting to say “Men fear being a bad husband.” While that may be the case for some guys in the same way that some men might not want to be fathers bc they fear that they might be a bad father…I think it’s a case of many guys, far too many lol, fearing the responsibility of having to be a good husband. When you gotta be a good husband, that means shedding all the layers of boyhood, and becoming a MAN. A lotta of dudes ain’t ready for that quite yet & many won’t ever be and they almost seem okay with that ..
I hope Queen takes those blinders off when it comes to Clarence because this is getting so sad to see her wanting to be married to a man who doesn't want her or doesn't value her like she does him.
She's in denial, her intuition is speaking to her, there is lots of women, influencers, dating coaches like Steve Harvey telling women not to waste their time, but some women are not ready to face the truth.
Her eyes looked sad in that video. Maybe that’s why he was like “oh yeah I was gonna book us a vacay” he knows she’s disappointed so he’s trying to add more to the anniversary celebration. Adding everything except the main ingredient will make the cake worse.
@@lrs1519 I noticed that too! The way he added it at the end, his mannerisms, says he knows what she was expecting and to keep the disappointment at bay he added that little trip to make things sounds better. On top of that, it sounds like he was 'going' to plan a trip but has he not already done that? Is the trip even booked and paid for so that all she has to do is pack and go? If not, don't tell her what you were going to do, it should've already been done.
Big sean always gave that he wants to be the baddie and her tattooing his face on her confirmed it where was his tattoo of her? She has a daughter and I think its bad parenting to show your kids that type of stuff like imagine your mom has a guy on her body that isnt your father or her husband lol
Nami don't even claim him like that. I mean yeah, she has a point, Big Sean is technically not her biological dad but damn the way she said "That man is NOT my dad"......
Big Sean of full of it but Jhene is obsessed with him so they are both clowns . If you still feel like you still can’t fully commit after 10 years and a whole child thats a lifetime commitment then they are both fools. It’s obvious she wants to be married but he does not and he just wasting her time . I think he figured if he already getting everything he wants without her putting boundaries in the first place then he just going to keep on doing it . I also think he has other side chicks that’s why he don’t want to be tied down but he is still messing with other girls .
@@ChocolateJaii you’re right. She did start to defend and even said “the man that I know”. I just hate that she keeps holding on to this man. It makes me sad
10 years is a lot of time to waste time. Big Sean doesn’t seem like he wants marriage with Jhene. It doesn’t take forever for a man to decide whether or not he wants to marry you. My husband proposed to me within 9 months of us dating and we’ve been married for 12 years. Did we have problems before the marriage? Absolutely! But we worked through those problems and we keep Jesus in the center of our marriage. It’s hard work, but when two people are committed to one another, the marriage can work. The covenant that I made with God and with my husband is important to me.
This was me three years ago. Thank God I did not give my ex access to my womb. When the resentment came from him taking so long to commit, I ran for the hills. Now I'm married to an amazing man who adores me.
The fact Big Sean was so comfortable commenting to the public how he will not be marrying her due to them not being ready, lets me know that he has definitely communicated this to Jhene as well. Jhene just probably held out hope that one day he’ll see her as his dream girl and she probably thought that baby was a leap towards that. And she was sadly mistaken.
Why does Queen want this man to propose? The last thing she needs to be doing is marrying Clarence. She will marrying him though for the look of it all. She just wants to be married. She doesn’t want to find a genuine partner because if that was the case she would’ve left him a long time ago.
If he doesn’t trust her he didn’t have to impregnate her. He doesn’t have to be there, he’s choosing to stay. If you don’t trust someone you don’t lead them on. You go be with someone you can trust.
If he doesn’t trust her then why would they still be together- they both have good careers so money isn’t the reason. He could easily leave her and just coparent their child and continue their careers
@@izzy350 she chases him, She likely has fulfilled a lot of his sexual desires and she’s clearly obsessed with him. She’s a huge ego boost for him. Sit in men’s spaces for any amount of time and you can learn quite a bit.
if a man doesnt follow Christ, then how can a woman even expect him to lead her? or love her? God is love. but most of these people arent Godly and isnt following the true Jesus Christ so their relathionships will be in the hands of the world and God is not of the world and anyone who is in the world is not in Christ. Get a man that actually value you and think highly of you, but most black men are under a spiritual warfare.
Funny enough big sean proposed to his ex naya within the first year of them dating but they called it off. Goes to show the saying, " a guy knows who he wants to marry in the first 6 months to a year" does holds some weight. I personally feel there is something he sees in Jhene that deters him from the idea of marrying her. Maybe she was/is impulsive, or acts crazy or he scared if it was to end in divorce she would do something crazy or just marriage phobia. I dont doubt he loves her BUT something in him is screaming red flags when it comes to marrying her. Just my opinion and what I ask of the males in my life. I personally have weeded out guys by me telling them UPFRONT, im dating for marriage and either the guy steps up or steps out the way. Women who want marriahe needs to stand firm on what they desire because the men will play games.
@KLee8000 very very fair assumption. Another thing to note is the fact she already made it clear early on she was head over heels for him. Think of it like this, if she didn't require marriage from him from the jump but was so quick to get a tattoo of him, she is already showing him commitment without the commitment. In other words, she kind of showed him that im all in for you with or without marriage or else whenever he came back she would say no marriage no me. But it didn't play that way, It just became a toxic back and forth. Men know the ones who they can play with because they know the difference between the girls who won't leave and the girls who know their value and will leave. Jhene in this case just wanted him back, hoping he would see how amazing she was and want to marry her but she unfortunately laid her cards on the table and set a low standard for him. I pray we are all wrong and he marries her but from how it looks he is still very much on the fence about marrying her. Again Im speaking from experience, men's perspective and opinion. This is not set and stone and life isn't black and white, things are ever changing.
@@Danielle2Dani I don’t see marriage for them. As mentioned before, he proposed to Nyah Rivera within a year of dating. He says they still have a lot to work out. He doesn’t want to get married to her or at all. I think a lot of male celebrities don’t see the benefit especially when women who divorce their spouse try to get everything they can get.
I noticed at lot of times when a man hasn’t committed to a woman he’s been with for a long time and mentions the “ups and downs” of a relationship he means him cheating.
Even the preferences get the same Black man. Also, I know not all BM are like this. I am married to a Nigerian king going on five years. However, the patterns in our community are there.
Queen Naija was being a bird Clarence been using her she put him on and she put his sister on all the drama he caused in her family was a clear sign that he wanted everybody out the picture so he and his family can use her for everything she got
Jhene has not been with Big Sean for 10 years. Jhene was married to another man in 2017. I noticed that both Jhene and Naija are women who were previously married but entered new relationships immediately after divorcing. Maybe they should have taken time to heal and focus on themselves before entering a new relationship,
It’s important to deal with a man who WANTS & VALUES marriage. Also, men don’t change once you get married so even if you do get married, you better love who he is as he is. I think ppl date for years, get married and divorced quick - it’s because ppl expects them to change. You also have to require marriage and not give them babies first.
These ladies are older than me … this is embarassing. What is in the air?Do these ladies not know that they are the ONE (Jhene korrupt said it in YOUR song) and they could have whoever they want? Like I’m disturbed lol
The truth? It doesn’t always matter what other people say when you don’t actually believe it or feel that way about yourself. That can be good or bad, in her case it’s not so good.
I’ve watched a couple of these videos and hope these women walk away instead of accepting shut up rings that might erupt from all this internet speculation. Glad content creators like you and others are providing analysis of these situations for young women so they don’t fall for the manipulative tactics men use get away with playing in womens’ faces.
As a married woman, marriage is truly a partnership and selflessness. Giving yourself to someone through the commitment in front of God and visa Versa. As someone who’s been married for 2 years, there are ups and downs but knowing you have someone by your side who is supportive and is comforting!
That prenup is why he hasnt proposed yet😂😂😂 Its sad when a MAN is telling you to get one, and you still wont listen. Like sis 6yrs only makes sense if he doesn't want you, he wants to assure his access.
Exactly! That part of the interview was cringey🥴. She says she believes in a prenup but in the same breath she’s “but you don’t know the person I know (he wouldn’t do that).” Girl! Stand up! Lol. And they are already mixing finances together which is crazy.
Women really owe it to their children to be born into wedlock if they can help it, In my humble opinion I had my pregnancy unplanned and out of wedlock and it was a rough experience. With my second child i was happily married, my pregnancy was planned and it was a totally different experience. My first child struggles highly with anxiety and my second child struggles less with anxiety and seems to be more successful in alot of areas even though my first child is the more intelligent of the two.
Marriage is a covenant under God. Period. That’s why they aren’t taken it serious because they aren’t followers of God. Nadja is clearly hurt behind not being married to Clarence.
IMO, a marriage is between two people who have a strong foundation of friendship. I feel like individuals need to like the person they are marrying. Some people don't like the person they are with and marry them just to appease their partners. People in these relationships know the outcome of their relationship would end in divorce.
wait why is she hesitating against a prenup if they do get married? this is keeping everything secure and by the law. i don’t get her saying he would never be the type to do it but i bet you she never thought he’d be the type to let himself go (no shade he just looks way different now) or take this long to marry her. that’s what got me
Oh that man will RUN HER POCKETS if they got married with no prenup. And then he’d refuse to pay child support. She should honestly just leave but if she’s gonna stay with his bum ass, DO NOT GET MARRIED. Might as well continue on the way it is, at least she won’t lose her coins.
Jhene definitely loves Big Sean more than he loves her. As much as their lives are intertwined now, it seems Big Sean still wants to keep one foot out the door. So many women think if they suffer enough, “raise a man”, “heal a man,” they’ll be rewarded with that man’s loyalty and love. Failing to realize he should’ve been giving them that from the start.
@@moresolush3she is very open with her spiritual practices and use of crystals, one of them was using crystals for love, for Big Sean. It’s many ways to do love spells and they typically back fire. Love spells mess with a persons free will, raven stmones wife also mentioned doing love spells on raven
@@moresolush3 like she tried to do a love spell on Big Sean back when they first started dating or maybe after their first breakup. And this is why she is so obsessed with him and loves him way more than he does her. Her energy is desperate and it’s making the love spell backfire, which is why he isn’t as close to her as she would want.
There will inevitably be comments under posts like these by BW saying “NOT EVERYBODY WANNA BE MARRIED” or “MARRIAGE DONT GUARANTEE NOTHING” and that makes me so sad for them. They have no idea what they’re worth.
Marriage means commitment, loyalty, covenant to god, stability & care I love love being married I’m 31 no children yet and I have a beautiful foundation ☺️💕 Please ladies protect your womb, wait and don’t give in stand on business! You are valuable and loved! Marriage is not the issue the person you chose to marry is important, if it ain’t from god ! If he don’t see a future WITH you don’t let him create a future IN you!
na whats crazy is how hard buddy was going for Queen @ 13:51 !! he straight up told her "get the prenup." no laughs or nothing! lolololol like girllllll i hope she listen man Queen is so sweet and thinks so much with her heart .
Queen dug herself in a hole that her butt can’t get out of by saying that she would leave if her man doesn’t propose within 10 years. On the one hand you have 4 more years to stand on that statement, so will you? On the other you basically pushed him in the corner which is telling him if he doesn’t do what you want by the time you want then you’re kicking him to the curb. I’m not sure if women realize this but men don’t like ultimatums. Hell women don’t like ultimatums either so I feel like it was extremely a bad idea for her to say that on that podcast. In both situations marriage and expectations should have been talked about wayyyyyy in the beginning. People be so focused on attraction that they miss huge red flags. Both men are fine as hell but are they willing to be husbands? Do they see themselves in a marriage. Some men will tell you early if they want to get married or not, all you have to do is ask them, BEFORE things get serious.
How can folks say they can’t commit to a marriage for the rest of your life but you can commit to being parents for the rest of your life??!! You been playing house but you don’t want it official. A man knows who and what they want. If he ain’t popped the question by now…he still waiting for the right one to come along and it ain’t them.
Part of the problem is the fact that these people move in together to be honest. Because the girlfriend is obviously doing wife duties in such situations. Men aren't going to budge if they are comfortable. I think ladies need to be stricter on that.
Ima try to make this short. If a man wants to marry you. HE WILL. My husband and I met at our church. We spoke in passing and courted one another for some months.. and got married like 5 months later Lol.. i was 19!, im close to 25 now.. we have 3 kids now (all in our marrige), and just bought our first home few months ago and im a stay at home mom.. really since we been married before i got pregnant.. our marrieg foundation was so strong on the lord. IF HE WANTS TO MARRY YOU HE WILL. HE WILL NOT WHORE YOU OUT OR MAKE YOU A BABY MAMA HE WILL NOT WASTE YOUR TIME. WHEN A MAN KNOWS HE KNOWS. PERIOD. And he wont cheat on you either . Just throwing it out there.
Although I wasnt able to avoid certain things, the're are some situations that people are in like this that make me just raise my hands in the air and thank my guardian angel for saving me and helping dodge certain bullets because that could've easily be me. They all deserve better man 💔
I’m married at 23 w 2 kids and I have no regrets on getting married, I’m so glad we just did it and push all the excuses out the door. We had our first child before marriage so 🤷🏽♀️
I think she needs lessons because it's clearly not working 😂😂😂. Or it backfires on her and makes her only more obsessed with Big Sean while he doesn't reciprocate
I always felt like she is into that stuff and put some type of spell on him. I remember how she was acting after the first break up she had with him. She was doing way too much online.
Sean is not going to marry her. He would have done it already. Marriage to me duty. Its bigger than my own needs. Yet being a wife has made me a better woman who is more loving and selfless. I love my hubby 🤗🥰💗💕
@@Ellemiss put God first in life and be a good person. You will find a kindred spirit. Putting God first is what gave my husband and I our foundation. We married within 60 days of meeting and going 6 years strong now💪🏽
I always find it crazy when people say marriage is difficult but having a baby isn’t. I’m a 26 year old newly wed. Me and my husband have been together for 6 years and married for two months. We’re not perfect but if a man wanted to ask a woman for her hand in marriage he would without feeling pressured to do so.
Agree with you completely! I think deep down, Naija mentally clocked it and started mentally/emotionally checking out after the Q&A where Clarence was very honest and it didn’t align with what Naija wants.
Nice video Chioma, marriage to be means us becoming one under the covet of God. God is crucial in any genuine relationship; especially marriage. We take these vows under God and must live as well as breathe them. It requires compromise and sacrifice; actually making sure both individuals understand what that we work together with everything. As a 29 year old African American man I want to be married and I’m working towards that!
@@oneonly215 I agree wholeheartedly agree. Children are a responsibility. BUT it’s easier for men to run away from that responsibility. Typically the child will stay with the mother if the relationship were to discontinue. With marriage, it’s more of a hassle to end that relationship and go back to what you were before you began it. Also, I believe no one wants their marriage to fail so they just tend to steer clear away from it all together.
I knew a couple who got engaged on their 10 year anniversary. They met in hs, went to college together, graduated, got an apartment and dog and after he was established, he proposed. I completely understand if you and your partner met in middle, hs and theres a gap. BUT if your relationship starts after the age of 22, aint no reason why your bf hasn't proposed after 4 years. I am happily married for 3.5 years, together for 8. My husband knew he wanted to marry me the 1st year of dating. Marriage is hard work and compromise. Why these girls decide to let a man impregnate you with a lifelong headache instead of a ring, I'll never know. Some men say because they don't want the government in their business.... what business besides the 7 years of back taxes you owe? 😂
Like people say, if he wanted to he would. The amount of years these people have been together and have a kid with but marriage is a bigger commitment?! Is crazy to me in my opinion.
7:08 EXACTLY!!! Please explain how having a child that binds you to this person for the rest of your life is better, but a married that you can end when you choose and go your separate ways is the more difficult…. I smell bs.
I feel like man want to stay single as possible just in case someone else come along that fulfill their needs that way they don’t have to go through all the divorce problems if married. It’s like being in a relationship but single at the same time. Remember man put what’s best for them first.
Anytime you hear a woman change her tune about wanting marriage or about wanting kids…. It is most definitely because of the relationship she’s in. There are women who are in a long term relationship and don’t want kids but as soon as the relationship is over they suddenly see themselves having kids. Same with wanting marriage/not wanting marriage and then vice versa… it’s because of the relationship they’re in or not in.
I had an ex who wanted me to have a baby so bad. I gave him a list of things that needed to be done first. Marriage being number 1. This fool looked at me and said “I think that’s too permanent” as if a child isn’t. 😂
Basically wanting the child as a placeholder, he can always text you and “ask about the child” figure out where you live because of the “child” always be nosey getting tea through the child. Etc etc having a child for a man without a serious marriage is playing a game of Monopoly he always has his piece on your board!
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@QueenChioma So you're immigrant, sister Rihanna isn't a baby mama? Or is that just relegated for black Americans? Cause last I checked, she's not married and has two kids out of wedlock.
I met a woman who waited, the man didn't marry her, she went to court after 22 years and took his last name and he got angry. He told her you're still not my wife and I' see other women, he died within a year from an affair
I think Queen is starting to lose interest. Her face and demeanor with those flowers said it all. Never forget, women check out emotionally before we leave..
Yup the energy is intense you can feel if through the screen
Yup definitely has checked out mentally
Say that again 👏🏼
What is she holding on for? She's the breadwinner in that relationship. Clarence ain't nothing but a mooch. He's her third dependant.
Ego and probably the length of time together. It's not a good reason logically, but when you're in those types of relationships it's easy to get in that mindset @@notyourfrind9415
Being afraid of marriage but not of a whole seed is crazy to me
The reason why these folks are scared of marriage but not having babies is because being a parent gives them authority over a child. If there’s ever an argument or disagreement, the dad can easily step out or the mom can take the kid away for the weekend without dealing with the partner
@@se2664yeah super toxic way of thinking creating a toxic cycle
People are afraid of both
...two things could be true
@@inmyOWN_worldoh they are not afraid of the baby, some of these male rappers have up to 10 kids.
The babies were probably not planned either, but they are being irresponsible with their lust lives
Queen Naija face and eyes look so depressed and sad despite her trying to sound cheery and happy.
yeah..i noticed that
She looks sad because she compromising her standards smh coded in all these excuses.
@@TNDRAVI wonder if the Black girls with “bad hairstyles” also compromised their standards 🤭
@@xshesyourqorqeousxx3why you used her remix version?
She seems drained and like she's holding back tears. This is not what she sings about in her music. I feel like she catfished me with her songs.
I hate that nobody made marriage a requirement before the baby IF they knew they ultimately wanted to be married.
This
Exactly she really don’t care to be married she just don’t want us to know that
@@SyriariashaYupp she is already divorced, probably doesn’t care to do the marriage thing again
@@xshesyourqorqeousxx3she has said many times so wants it
Feel cuz it's easy and uses less thought to make a child. Marriage calls for thought and planning to propose. People just be horny and don't bother to use protection, ends up having a child and go "damn, we'll, guess we have to take of this damn thing now"
6 years is too long. 3 years is too long. Men know period. All this other shit is an excuse.
I got married, not just engaged, but married, before my 2 year anniversary. 6 years is waayyyyy too long.
Men know exactly who they want. That’s why sometimes men will leave a relationship and jump into one with another woman and marry her quick fast and in a hurry. Every married man I’ve spoken to has proposed the same year they asked their now wives to be their girlfriend or under 2 years.
3 years is okay imo, especially when you’re young but 6+ is crazyyy
@@xanjey17he not going to merry her. Men know if they going to marry the person they with.
Exactly. Nothing else needs to be said
I never liked Clarence. He is the definition of a stereotypical dusty. Misogynistic, thinks he’s a prize, greedy , selfish, overly materialistic with little to no ambition.
If it wasn’t for queen he’d still be in his mommas basement with 200k ig followers
PREACH!!!!❤
Wake it up
Yup
Facts
200k followers but not with with 200k dollars 😂😂😂
I’ve been married for 6 years. After going through having 2 babies it is insane to have kids and THEN try to get married. My daddy always said…fastest way to lose a man is to have his baby” Men need a reason to marry you. If you give him wife privileges before being a wife…why make you a wife? 🤷🏽♀️
They don't listen 😑😑😑
@@Glamlarry I said the same thing! Especially in 2024, a lot of men now don’t even see the value in marriage. You’re already doing everything a wife would do for him so why would he marry you? We gotta stop ts.
mhm
@@christinamason7894right
The Bible tells you about it.
If things ain’t right in the relationship
…then you ain’t right to have kids at the moment
😮💨 this
Easier said..
@@inmyOWN_world It's easy because we're in control. Women need to stop giving womb access to bums who do the bare minimum. I'd never let a man have me if we aren't married. & never let them manipulate you into a quick marriage either. Marrying a man you truly don't know is like being caught in a spider's web. Decenter them and think rationally, I can assure you the result would be different. Most men are NOT worth the trouble. Insecure women with codependency issues are desperate for male validation, that's why they attract narcissists who leech off their energy.
@@inmyOWN_worldPoint being, you know a man's true intentions when you deny him whatever it is he's seeking. They're nice when you say yes, pay attention to their true colors when you say no. I've had Mr.Nice guys ghost me for not giving them access to my boundaries. Too many women are out here being gaslit into not trusting their intuition.
@Felicite-Etoile Absolutely I don't believe there is no such thing as nice guy
When she said she will leave after 10 years. Clarence made up in his mind that he has 4 more years to waste her time. I hope she realizes what’s happening so she can get what she wants in the end….with the right man
i feel like she’s definitely realised but unfortunately she’s settling
It’s just something about the tone of his voice, bless Queen but I don’t think he’s going to marry her😩😩 he definitely holding on to them last 4 years for dear life💀
As a married woman, I think a lot of people who say “divorce rate high, it’s a business, etc…” are playing house with someone they are luke warm about and instead of being alone they’d rather settle with that excuse. When you are truly with the right person you jump for the opportunity to solidify and make a commitment through marriage.
Marriage is not hard. Life is hard which can throw curve balls at your relationship but with the right person you successfully make it through those hurdles together.
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How long you been married ?
i wish more women took the time and let a man court you before you do wifely duties to a man with no ring
PSA THIS IS NOT ABOUT COOKING AND CLEANING yall should already do that we are adults. this is about things like having kids, buying property together, cars etc. i’m saying save that for marriage and if you don’t believe in marriage fine by me.
this!
I’ve been told you should not do wife things for a boyfriend .
Facts
@@Asheemataynever, that includes s3x. Thats something for a wife and husband
Out of curiosity, what is considered widely duties.
This why I'm staying a virgin til I get a ring idc how long it takes at this point cause it's too many women becoming mothers before they are wives and it's embarrassing 🤦🏽♀️ I'm newly 21 still a virgin
Same twin. Saving myself for the right man.
perioddd.
keep doing so! i am not (once) and i wont say i necessarily regret it but i do feel like once i did ive learned that its 1000% better to wait till marriage 😂 i wont say its wrong to not wait bcus things happen but it does make life easier ! less to worry abt and the relationship is built on more than just lust bcus it can cloud yr judgement.
@@unicornboom5851 Exactly! I don't want an relationship solely based on that or to regret doing something
Me too 24 going on 25
Naija gives me air head vibes and Clarence is not in love with her he’s an opportunist
I met a man that told me he’s scared of marriage after I told him my future plans to marry THEN have a baby. He began to handle me like I’m a woman desperate for marriage. lol little does he know, it’s not a need, it’s just a requirement for me to give birth. I’m not committing to any man that doesn’t check all the yes boxes! Let alone push his kid. Tf?
Yeah some men try to hold that over these women’s head when they do desperate stuff like them, u tat a mans face on u give him babies take him back over and over that shows him u want that ring BAD and they use that against her and they’ll never give it to her
Exactly. Il rather go to a donor than do all that for someone that claims to be committed to me. Chile please. 😅😅😴
This!!! Im literally the Same you Marry me or no kids and no living together. my mom always says you can’t do wife duties without having the wife title. And she is right.
Marriage is a whole covenant with God
yesss ❤
Word!!!!
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right which most of these people think can work without and it absolutely cannot!! which is why this toxic cycle will never end in marriage.
seriously, i’m only a teenager but seeing all these women hanging on to a man who clearly doesn’t want nothing more from them but sex is a prime example as to why I should wait until marriage.
I feel like if you’re serious about wanting to be married then that should be made very clear to your partner AND stand firm on not moving like a wife without the ring, no shacking up & definitely no babies!
I agree but disagree that we shouldn’t be doing wifey things before marriage. We should be moving like a wife to a certain extent because how else are men gonna decide if they wanna make us their wife if we don’t demonstrate what kind of wife we would be? Men are not gonna take a gamble and find out after marriage. Only in a fantasy world lol. Gotta stop pushing that message
@@ChocolateJaiiAre you married?
@@ChocolateJaii I thought it was evident but maybe not by “Moving like a wife” I meant the core things like living together & birthing children. I don’t think it makes sense for women who value marriage to also not show up as the wife they want to be
@@se2664 I’m engaged love and I did wifey duties ( no kids tho ) before the ring and still got it 😊 how about yourself?
@@ashleyspdf oh okay I understand your viewpoint better then. I agree on those things
All them trash bags in the background while naija holding them flowers…i’d be irritated if I came home to that
!!!! foreal!!! like what?!
I watched a video a couple of years ago that was like “they wont last” and in one of their vlogs, there was a bunch of trash in the background, and she asked him to take it out 😅 I cant remember the other stuff but he just gives Handsome Bum™️
Omg yes! Because why are you here?
@@etherealjoddessAnd he had said he didn’t want to cos it was leaking. Like man.
@@angelray688 see thats weaponized incompetence or just pure laziness. Its leaking so you wont double bag it and take it out? He’d rather let it leak on the floor 🤢
If he hasn’t married you by now , take it as a blessing in disguise , say thank you and move on gracefully ❤
Well said.😊😊😊
LMAO
The preference-to-babymama pipeline is undefeated. Lemme go eat my caesar salad.
It really is 😅 I don’t want to highlight someone else’s misery because I wouldn’t want someone to shine a mirror on me, but man oh man, they sworn that light skin/nonBlack women are so above dark skin/Black women yet they end up in the same position or worse.
Extra chicken?
@xshesyourqorqeousxx3 I truly hate colorism and never ever has any woman been exempt from any man's bullshit cause she was light skinned with wavy hair. I can attest to that personally.
@@shawnm.martin5721many of the men who fetishize them treat them badly as soon as the woman isn’t doing or behaving like the man believes they should. Those men snatch those masks right off.
@@xshesyourqorqeousxx3 because men that date women based only on these shallow preferences are usually stupid and full of themselves and take recruiting and hooking these women as some societal goal rather than actually caring for them as people and a respected partner
They’ll say all these excuses and go marry the next woman within a year or two.
6 months even
😂 oh my gosh
I do agree that marriage is a more serious and official declaration of a committed relationship. It’s weird how people are hesitant to marry someone, but will have a whole child with them as if it’s no big deal. It sounds like Big Sean is waiting for the “perfect” moment to marry Jhene, but as you’ve said, no relationship is perfect.
And having a kid with someone actually attaches you to someone permanently. A marriage, you can always separate and divorce. When the divorce is finalized, you don't ever have to worry about that person again. With a child, you have to deal with not only the child but the other parent too for at least 18 years.
That’s because marriage actually requires working together to solve issues. A child doesn’t because as a a parent you have authority over your children’s privacy, what they eat, wear, hangout with, and medical care. And children are expected to obey. In a marriage? Not so much. It’s not a partnership if the husband is being an asshole
I agree. Waiting on the perfect moment or for there to never be a “problem” will keep couples single. Marriage isn’t a fix it for a relationship nor is a baby.
I mean, a child is an entire human being that will some day contribute to society in some way. I feel like that's a much bigger responsibility and is why marriage to the right partner is so important beforehand. I know life isn't perfect, but in the case of these two they had all the resources AND status to create the loving home and family they want but still choose someone who doesn't value them equally.
And this is why I'm in therapy now because I think generational trauma is so deep that even when given an opportunity to do the right thing for ourselves, without true self worth you end up putting others before yourself and I'm trying to get out of that mindset. All the women in my family judge me for being 34 and not married and although that is a desire of mines I don't want to settle and I refuse to have a child without the safety and security of a marriage.
In a decade if this perfect moment hasn’t happened by now… this same man was engaged to Naya in what 6 months. I wish them well
It’s almost like the men are saying your good enough to have my baby but not good enough to be my wife which is crazyyyy
It’s really disrespectful when you think about it. There basically saying your good enough to have sex with and be a human incubator for there kids; but not good enough for serious commitment or be a life long partner 😐
It's the same way how most men don't even be asking these women to be their girlfriends. They just been going with the flow and assume "well, we bf and gf now". And the women just settle and accept it
I notice that too, they don’t ask just post a pictures on IG and that’s it lool
This shit here !
Yes. Like no you have to explicitly say it so it’s no confusion. My now husband asked me about 3 years ago to be his girlfriend after a date to the movies. It was so romantic like a movie. I started crying like a punk lol
@@hannahzeplin2794 so sweet though. Tears of joy🥰 That is romantic. My boyfriend asked me as well. We‘re long distance so he couldn‘t wait and made a shirt asking if I wanna be his girlfriend and wore it when he facetimed me😢 I always thought it is important to be officially asked. Same like a marriage proposal. Just so nobody is confused. But you gotta make it a requirement.
@@queenofsheba5846 yes he took me by the water and asked me while the waves were crashing against the rocks. It was midnight so he told me to look up at the stars and then asked the question. If we had not been only seeing each other for 3 days at that point, would have thought he was proposing lol
That sigh said, Roses die, Diamonds are forever.
Literally 🤷🏾♀️
Clarence been used that girl as a come up we been saying it but we “haters”
He look like he doesn't even like her like not even as a friend or colleague!!😂😂
Plz and definitely started as revenge on Chris 😭
The fans gon cape till they can’t cape no more 💀
My husband and I had a conversation about this topic. His thoughts: by having a baby for a man without being married, he now has no reason to marry you. You’ll forever be his and he will have access into your life forever. For most men this is a win.
I think the biggest problem is a lot of people do marriage things before being married ie moving in , sharing finances, buying homes and having kids without being married and for most men they’ll test how far you’re willing to go with the least amount of commitment possible and if you don’t uphold those boundaries of I won’t provide certain luxuries without being married they’ll take and take and take and next thing you know you’ll end up like jhene or queen because they’ve given the luxuries a wife would give without actually being one now they’re begging for greater commitment after they’ve already giving their all.I mean why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free. If you’ve been with someone a decade or damn near a decade and yall have had children, bought houses, shared finances and you want marriage and you still don’t have it your time is being wasted
Yup! Cohabitation doesn’t lead to marriage either. I’ve never witnessed any of my friends get married after living with their boyfriend
@@se2664I knew a girl from one of my old jobs who was with her man for a decade. They were probably living together the whole time too. Well, she ended up having a baby and guess what? He dipped. Now she’s a single mom.
My friend was a single mom meet her boyfriend they moved in together two years later married and bought a house. He takes care of her son like his…it depends on the man… if he’s not serious he’ll never be serious regardless if you live with him or not.
A lot of women be with men who are not serious that’s where the problem come from.
@@Bri-nc8ypamen on point!
@@aspyn.j_ yup a coworker of mine recently moved in with her boyfriend and they broke up after less than 2 months of living together. So now he’s threatening to break the lease 🤷🏾♀️ moral of the story js to stop living with temporary boyfriends unless you can easily afford a 2 bedroom by yourself
I hear a lot of people (mostly men) say “Oh well marriage is a big commitment” sir… a CHILD is a big commitment! If you’re not willing to put a ring on it then you shouldn’t have children// children should not be in the picture as of yet. If you aren’t ready to settle down maybe they’re not the one for you and that’s ok, find someone who is and wants to be with you and only you.❤️
Another tiktoker said that some men feel like a child is ok bc it doesn’t require the same amount of effort that being a good husband does and THAT is what they fear. They fear being a bad husband and the thought that if a divorce were to come they would lose a lot more as opposed to being put on papers for child support. She said more but she was truly spitting
@@lrs1519 I know that you’re only repeating what a tiktoker said about this, but I think it’s interesting to say “Men fear being a bad husband.” While that may be the case for some guys in the same way that some men might not want to be fathers bc they fear that they might be a bad father…I think it’s a case of many guys, far too many lol, fearing the responsibility of having to be a good husband. When you gotta be a good husband, that means shedding all the layers of boyhood, and becoming a MAN. A lotta of dudes ain’t ready for that quite yet & many won’t ever be and they almost seem okay with that ..
I hope Queen takes those blinders off when it comes to Clarence because this is getting so sad to see her wanting to be married to a man who doesn't want her or doesn't value her like she does him.
I hope she leaves she deserves better.
She's in denial, her intuition is speaking to her, there is lots of women, influencers, dating coaches like Steve Harvey telling women not to waste their time, but some women are not ready to face the truth.
Her eyes looked sad in that video. Maybe that’s why he was like “oh yeah I was gonna book us a vacay” he knows she’s disappointed so he’s trying to add more to the anniversary celebration. Adding everything except the main ingredient will make the cake worse.
@@lrs1519 I noticed that too! The way he added it at the end, his mannerisms, says he knows what she was expecting and to keep the disappointment at bay he added that little trip to make things sounds better. On top of that, it sounds like he was 'going' to plan a trip but has he not already done that? Is the trip even booked and paid for so that all she has to do is pack and go? If not, don't tell her what you were going to do, it should've already been done.
Nobody didn’t peep she took a deep breath? It sounds like she’s about to give up on him
You literally could hear Queen say “dang it” when she realized there wasn’t more ☹️ 10:35
Yes I dropped the background music at that part, cause she literally said “dang it”. I kind of feel bad because I know what she was expecting.
Queen looks so so sad in that video, omg it hurts to see that shit. You can tell she was trying not to cry
That was really hard to watch
Big sean always gave that he wants to be the baddie and her tattooing his face on her confirmed it where was his tattoo of her? She has a daughter and I think its bad parenting to show your kids that type of stuff like imagine your mom has a guy on her body that isnt your father or her husband lol
Agreed
He also likes women of other races
She delusional - she pretends to be deep but she isn’t
Nami don't even claim him like that. I mean yeah, she has a point, Big Sean is technically not her biological dad but damn the way she said "That man is NOT my dad"......
Yeah Big Sean seems like he wants to be the baddie, like ASAP. But I can understand why Rih doesn’t want to get married, she makes too much.
Halle and DGG on the same boat too 😭🤣🤣🤣
Stop they're young LMFAOO😭😭😭
Exactly
I can see that…
Yup
@@joshua2764but not too young to have a child
Big Sean of full of it but Jhene is obsessed with him so they are both clowns . If you still feel like you still can’t fully commit after 10 years and a whole child thats a lifetime commitment then they are both fools. It’s obvious she wants to be married but he does not and he just wasting her time . I think he figured if he already getting everything he wants without her putting boundaries in the first place then he just going to keep on doing it . I also think he has other side chicks that’s why he don’t want to be tied down but he is still messing with other girls .
Bootleg Kev was basically tryna tell her something but she can’t catch it 🥺 I hate this for Queen
Nah she definitely caught what he was saying, she was just trying to defend why Clarence hasn’t proposed yet
@@ChocolateJaii you’re right. She did start to defend and even said “the man that I know”. I just hate that she keeps holding on to this man. It makes me sad
10 years is a lot of time to waste time. Big Sean doesn’t seem like he wants marriage with Jhene. It doesn’t take forever for a man to decide whether or not he wants to marry you. My husband proposed to me within 9 months of us dating and we’ve been married for 12 years. Did we have problems before the marriage? Absolutely! But we worked through those problems and we keep Jesus in the center of our marriage. It’s hard work, but when two people are committed to one another, the marriage can work. The covenant that I made with God and with my husband is important to me.
This was me three years ago. Thank God I did not give my ex access to my womb. When the resentment came from him taking so long to commit, I ran for the hills. Now I'm married to an amazing man who adores me.
So happy for you! 💗
@@CalixLuv thank you luv!
The fact Big Sean was so comfortable commenting to the public how he will not be marrying her due to them not being ready, lets me know that he has definitely communicated this to Jhene as well. Jhene just probably held out hope that one day he’ll see her as his dream girl and she probably thought that baby was a leap towards that. And she was sadly mistaken.
Why does Queen want this man to propose? The last thing she needs to be doing is marrying Clarence. She will marrying him though for the look of it all. She just wants to be married. She doesn’t want to find a genuine partner because if that was the case she would’ve left him a long time ago.
Exactly. There’s no use of her getting married to clarence now. He’s not fit for marriage so it’s not even worth it
Sunk cost fallacy at this point
Let's not ignore the fact when Sean got with jhene, she WAS MARRIED TO DOT. maybe he just don't trust her like that cause he seen her do it 👀
If he doesn’t trust her he didn’t have to impregnate her. He doesn’t have to be there, he’s choosing to stay. If you don’t trust someone you don’t lead them on. You go be with someone you can trust.
@@SJP43he had a kid with her do he can get unlimited access to her body without the commitment
If he doesn’t trust her then why would they still be together- they both have good careers so money isn’t the reason. He could easily leave her and just coparent their child and continue their careers
@@SJP43!!!
@@izzy350 she chases him, She likely has fulfilled a lot of his sexual desires and she’s clearly obsessed with him. She’s a huge ego boost for him. Sit in men’s spaces for any amount of time and you can learn quite a bit.
if a man doesnt follow Christ, then how can a woman even expect him to lead her? or love her? God is love. but most of these people arent Godly and isnt following the true Jesus Christ so their relathionships will be in the hands of the world and God is not of the world and anyone who is in the world is not in Christ. Get a man that actually value you and think highly of you, but most black men are under a spiritual warfare.
Amen 🙏
💯💯🎯
That ain’t true Christian men will dog out women just like any other man 💀
This comment is exactly my thoughts and biblically sound
Thank you so much for this
I pray all women and men see this truth
@@Mariahelenaaaaa Glory be to God i pray every spiritual blindness unfolds to those that cant see the truth. in Jesus name Amen
Funny enough big sean proposed to his ex naya within the first year of them dating but they called it off. Goes to show the saying, " a guy knows who he wants to marry in the first 6 months to a year" does holds some weight. I personally feel there is something he sees in Jhene that deters him from the idea of marrying her. Maybe she was/is impulsive, or acts crazy or he scared if it was to end in divorce she would do something crazy or just marriage phobia. I dont doubt he loves her BUT something in him is screaming red flags when it comes to marrying her. Just my opinion and what I ask of the males in my life.
I personally have weeded out guys by me telling them UPFRONT, im dating for marriage and either the guy steps up or steps out the way. Women who want marriahe needs to stand firm on what they desire because the men will play games.
I think it’s because she was married before and divorced dude. Also, it’s rumored she cheated with Big Sean on her then husband.
@KLee8000 very very fair assumption. Another thing to note is the fact she already made it clear early on she was head over heels for him. Think of it like this, if she didn't require marriage from him from the jump but was so quick to get a tattoo of him, she is already showing him commitment without the commitment. In other words, she kind of showed him that im all in for you with or without marriage or else whenever he came back she would say no marriage no me. But it didn't play that way, It just became a toxic back and forth. Men know the ones who they can play with because they know the difference between the girls who won't leave and the girls who know their value and will leave. Jhene in this case just wanted him back, hoping he would see how amazing she was and want to marry her but she unfortunately laid her cards on the table and set a low standard for him. I pray we are all wrong and he marries her but from how it looks he is still very much on the fence about marrying her. Again Im speaking from experience, men's perspective and opinion. This is not set and stone and life isn't black and white, things are ever changing.
I always found it interesting how quickly he got engaged to Naya within a few months but Jhene is not even his fiance after 8 years.
@@Danielle2Dani I don’t see marriage for them. As mentioned before, he proposed to Nyah Rivera within a year of dating. He says they still have a lot to work out. He doesn’t want to get married to her or at all. I think a lot of male celebrities don’t see the benefit especially when women who divorce their spouse try to get everything they can get.
Him and jhene are toxic 😂 that’s probably why
I noticed at lot of times when a man hasn’t committed to a woman he’s been with for a long time and mentions the “ups and downs” of a relationship he means him cheating.
Even the preferences get the same Black man. Also, I know not all BM are like this. I am married to a Nigerian king going on five years. However, the patterns in our community are there.
Chile, the pattern is soo deep that I’m scared to date them.
Girl they get worse cause they get the most shallow, immoral ones that only care about what skin tone and hair type you have
Soooo many fathers African, Asian, European, etc warn their children to not date or marry African American men. 😮💨
@@sevenkings2354No literally 😭😭😭
Hi I'm 🇳🇬 hope he is paid your bride price in full😅
Queen Naija was being a bird Clarence been using her she put him on and she put his sister on all the drama he caused in her family was a clear sign that he wanted everybody out the picture so he and his family can use her for everything she got
DID SHE TELL U THAT ? BECAUSE I ALSO HEARD THAT U ARE A BIRD OR HAVE BEEN ONE AS WELL. LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
@@jackielawrence7358lmao y u madd like that ? That’s yo ppls ? 😂
@@jackielawrence7358Queen Naija? Family? Is that you? 👀 If not, baby go get some rest and try again tomorrow because you took this WAY too personal.
Right!!!@@OpinionatedBlues
@@OpinionatedBluessounds like queen on a burner 🤣😂 tbh 😅
Jhene and Chrisean are both Pisces and obsessed is the minimum. 😂♓
I’m a Pisces too but I know to stop obsessing over a nigga if he’s not reciprocating the same energy back
One of my ex friends who loved jhene was a Pisces and she acted the same. Damn. Way. Just male identified and messy all hell.
Hey not too much on pisces, some of us have sense😂@aspyn.j_
I’m a Pisces and left both of my exes, no tats! Simply said Fuck them N******! 🤷🏽♀️😭😭😭
Rihanna too. Smh
Hey Chioma, next video please talk about married couples in the industry. Showing the benefits and also its shortcomings .
Jhene has not been with Big Sean for 10 years. Jhene was married to another man in 2017. I noticed that both Jhene and Naija are women who were previously married but entered new relationships immediately after divorcing. Maybe they should have taken time to heal and focus on themselves before entering a new relationship,
It’s important to deal with a man who WANTS & VALUES marriage. Also, men don’t change once you get married so even if you do get married, you better love who he is as he is. I think ppl date for years, get married and divorced quick - it’s because ppl expects them to change. You also have to require marriage and not give them babies first.
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These ladies are older than me … this is embarassing. What is in the air?Do these ladies not know that they are the ONE (Jhene korrupt said it in YOUR song) and they could have whoever they want? Like I’m disturbed lol
Whoever they want 😂😂😂 you chicks are delusional
literally, what is in the air nowadays🤨
Babyyyy Never Call Me is my songgggg too !
It’s sad but age literally mean nothing.
The truth? It doesn’t always matter what other people say when you don’t actually believe it or feel that way about yourself. That can be good or bad, in her case it’s not so good.
I’ve watched a couple of these videos and hope these women walk away instead of accepting shut up rings that might erupt from all this internet speculation. Glad content creators like you and others are providing analysis of these situations for young women so they don’t fall for the manipulative tactics men use get away with playing in womens’ faces.
“There’s more what? More roses?”
Then all his excuses lmaoo. She put the pressure on him 😂
she didn’t lol 😂
Lmfaooo not more rosessss
As a married woman, marriage is truly a partnership and selflessness. Giving yourself to someone through the commitment in front of God and visa Versa. As someone who’s been married for 2 years, there are ups and downs but knowing you have someone by your side who is supportive and is comforting!
That prenup is why he hasnt proposed yet😂😂😂 Its sad when a MAN is telling you to get one, and you still wont listen. Like sis 6yrs only makes sense if he doesn't want you, he wants to assure his access.
Because men know other men...He has seen the game of that man and that's why he is encouraging her to get one.I hope she does
Exactly! That part of the interview was cringey🥴. She says she believes in a prenup but in the same breath she’s “but you don’t know the person I know (he wouldn’t do that).” Girl! Stand up! Lol. And they are already mixing finances together which is crazy.
@@KevonnieElainethey mixed too damn much already they have a kid
Women really owe it to their children to be born into wedlock if they can help it, In my humble opinion
I had my pregnancy unplanned and out of wedlock and it was a rough experience. With my second child i was happily married, my pregnancy was planned and it was a totally different experience.
My first child struggles highly with anxiety and my second child struggles less with anxiety and seems to be more successful in alot of areas even though my first child is the more intelligent of the two.
Perfect timing, I’m cooking a late dinner! ☺️
Big Sean said a whole heap of NOTHING
❤❤ love you girl , these ladies need to cut their losses & bet on themselves it don’t take 10yrs to know
Marriage is a covenant under God. Period. That’s why they aren’t taken it serious because they aren’t followers of God. Nadja is clearly hurt behind not being married to Clarence.
I was married for 22 years and I had two kids when I met my husband. And I told him I am not having anymore kids if I don't get married.
What people need to understand a baby is more permanent than marriage. If you’re not ready for a marriage ? Than why would you be ready for a baby smh
IMO, a marriage is between two people who have a strong foundation of friendship. I feel like individuals need to like the person they are marrying.
Some people don't like the person they are with and marry them just to appease their partners. People in these relationships know the outcome of their relationship would end in divorce.
If you hate your girlfriend break up with her instead of stringing her along.😊😊😊
wait why is she hesitating against a prenup if they do get married? this is keeping everything secure and by the law. i don’t get her saying he would never be the type to do it but i bet you she never thought he’d be the type to let himself go (no shade he just looks way different now) or take this long to marry her. that’s what got me
I want to watch her eat her own words 🤣🤷🏻♀️ I’m just messy 🤭
Oh that man will RUN HER POCKETS if they got married with no prenup. And then he’d refuse to pay child support. She should honestly just leave but if she’s gonna stay with his bum ass, DO NOT GET MARRIED. Might as well continue on the way it is, at least she won’t lose her coins.
“There’s a lot of work that needs to be done” And they’ve been together since 2016..
10 and 6 years!!! I think not!
That 'no' from Big Sean was loud as hell!😂😂 He's never going to marry Jhene
Jhene definitely loves Big Sean more than he loves her.
As much as their lives are intertwined now, it seems Big Sean still wants to keep one foot out the door.
So many women think if they suffer enough, “raise a man”, “heal a man,” they’ll be rewarded with that man’s loyalty and love.
Failing to realize he should’ve been giving them that from the start.
Definitely a love spell gone wrong with jhene
wait could you explain
@@moresolush3she is very open with her spiritual practices and use of crystals, one of them was using crystals for love, for Big Sean. It’s many ways to do love spells and they typically back fire. Love spells mess with a persons free will, raven stmones wife also mentioned doing love spells on raven
I can see that.. like it backfired in a sense
@@moresolush3 like she tried to do a love spell on Big Sean back when they first started dating or maybe after their first breakup. And this is why she is so obsessed with him and loves him way more than he does her. Her energy is desperate and it’s making the love spell backfire, which is why he isn’t as close to her as she would want.
This is deep but many want admit it or even understand
There will inevitably be comments under posts like these by BW saying “NOT EVERYBODY WANNA BE MARRIED” or “MARRIAGE DONT GUARANTEE NOTHING” and that makes me so sad for them. They have no idea what they’re worth.
It’s also WHO you marry but that should be a no brainer. If you marry a good person & yall on the same page & work at it then it’ll be fine
@@Kaiel26exactly they have kids with ppl they don’t like so they can’t envision marrying them
Marriage means commitment, loyalty, covenant to god, stability & care
I love love being married I’m 31 no children yet and I have a beautiful foundation ☺️💕
Please ladies protect your womb, wait and don’t give in stand on business! You are valuable and loved!
Marriage is not the issue the person you chose to marry is important, if it ain’t from god !
If he don’t see a future WITH you don’t let him create a future IN you!
So refreshing to hear people say they love being married
Gurl always spits FACTS
na whats crazy is how hard buddy was going for Queen @ 13:51 !! he straight up told her "get the prenup." no laughs or nothing! lolololol like girllllll i hope she listen man Queen is so sweet and thinks so much with her heart .
Yes! He told her “get it”
She won't though. She puts others feelings before her own
I wasn't ready for the complete bop and the end!!!! you're so versatile!😍
Queen dug herself in a hole that her butt can’t get out of by saying that she would leave if her man doesn’t propose within 10 years. On the one hand you have 4 more years to stand on that statement, so will you? On the other you basically pushed him in the corner which is telling him if he doesn’t do what you want by the time you want then you’re kicking him to the curb. I’m not sure if women realize this but men don’t like ultimatums. Hell women don’t like ultimatums either so I feel like it was extremely a bad idea for her to say that on that podcast. In both situations marriage and expectations should have been talked about wayyyyyy in the beginning. People be so focused on attraction that they miss huge red flags. Both men are fine as hell but are they willing to be husbands? Do they see themselves in a marriage. Some men will tell you early if they want to get married or not, all you have to do is ask them, BEFORE things get serious.
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How can folks say they can’t commit to a marriage for the rest of your life but you can commit to being parents for the rest of your life??!! You been playing house but you don’t want it official. A man knows who and what they want. If he ain’t popped the question by now…he still waiting for the right one to come along and it ain’t them.
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Part of the problem is the fact that these people move in together to be honest. Because the girlfriend is obviously doing wife duties in such situations. Men aren't going to budge if they are comfortable. I think ladies need to be stricter on that.
Ima try to make this short. If a man wants to marry you. HE WILL. My husband and I met at our church. We spoke in passing and courted one another for some months.. and got married like 5 months later Lol.. i was 19!, im close to 25 now.. we have 3 kids now (all in our marrige), and just bought our first home few months ago and im a stay at home mom.. really since we been married before i got pregnant.. our marrieg foundation was so strong on the lord. IF HE WANTS TO MARRY YOU HE WILL. HE WILL NOT WHORE YOU OUT OR MAKE YOU A BABY MAMA HE WILL NOT WASTE YOUR TIME. WHEN A MAN KNOWS HE KNOWS. PERIOD. And he wont cheat on you either . Just throwing it out there.
As a married women of 9 years…….I will never understand how someone can say a marriage is to much of a commitment but not a baby 😒😒
Although I wasnt able to avoid certain things, the're are some situations that people are in like this that make me just raise my hands in the air and thank my guardian angel for saving me and helping dodge certain bullets because that could've easily be me. They all deserve better man 💔
I’m married at 23 w 2 kids and I have no regrets on getting married, I’m so glad we just did it and push all the excuses out the door. We had our first child before marriage so 🤷🏽♀️
@@BeautyAndVirtue I’m happy for you but unfortunately it doesn’t happen like that for everyone.
period! congratulations 💙
Marriage is a covenant under God. Period. That’s why they aren’t taken it serious because they aren’t followers of God.
And that’s crazy because ( idk if she still is ) but queen used to be a firm believer when she was with Chris
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@@ChocolateJaii exactly. Chris made a video recently saying he don’t believe in God anymore. I’m gone be praying for them 🙏🏽
Jhene is a self proclaimed ‘witch’ so that big Sean portrait tattoo is just….
I think she needs lessons because it's clearly not working 😂😂😂. Or it backfires on her and makes her only more obsessed with Big Sean while he doesn't reciprocate
She has literally never said or called herself a witch.
@@user-ne4fp2ts3n she practices witch craft. Do you follow her every move? Y’all fans too much.
@@UnpopularAdvisorwhere ?
I always felt like she is into that stuff and put some type of spell on him. I remember how she was acting after the first break up she had with him. She was doing way too much online.
Sean is not going to marry her. He would have done it already. Marriage to me duty. Its bigger than my own needs. Yet being a wife has made me a better woman who is more loving and selfless. I love my hubby 🤗🥰💗💕
Hoping for this to be me one day😊
@@Ellemiss put God first in life and be a good person. You will find a kindred spirit. Putting God first is what gave my husband and I our foundation. We married within 60 days of meeting and going 6 years strong now💪🏽
I always find it crazy when people say marriage is difficult but having a baby isn’t. I’m a 26 year old newly wed. Me and my husband have been together for 6 years and married for two months. We’re not perfect but if a man wanted to ask a woman for her hand in marriage he would without feeling pressured to do so.
Agree with you completely! I think deep down, Naija mentally clocked it and started mentally/emotionally checking out after the Q&A where Clarence was very honest and it didn’t align with what Naija wants.
Nice video Chioma, marriage to be means us becoming one under the covet of God. God is crucial in any genuine relationship; especially marriage. We take these vows under God and must live as well as breathe them. It requires compromise and sacrifice; actually making sure both individuals understand what that we work together with everything. As a 29 year old African American man I want to be married and I’m working towards that!
Good for you 👏🏿
People just don't want the responsibility and commitment it takes for a marriage.
If people don’t want the commitment, why is it a problem when their partner cheats? If there’s no commitment?
@@chrislynl.9395 because these same people have feelings.. jealously is still a thing.
RESPONSIBILITY IS A CHILD!!!!! A WHOLE HUMAN BEING LOL
@@oneonly215 I agree wholeheartedly agree. Children are a responsibility. BUT it’s easier for men to run away from that responsibility. Typically the child will stay with the mother if the relationship were to discontinue. With marriage, it’s more of a hassle to end that relationship and go back to what you were before you began it. Also, I believe no one wants their marriage to fail so they just tend to steer clear away from it all together.
I knew a couple who got engaged on their 10 year anniversary. They met in hs, went to college together, graduated, got an apartment and dog and after he was established, he proposed. I completely understand if you and your partner met in middle, hs and theres a gap. BUT if your relationship starts after the age of 22, aint no reason why your bf hasn't proposed after 4 years.
I am happily married for 3.5 years, together for 8. My husband knew he wanted to marry me the 1st year of dating. Marriage is hard work and compromise. Why these girls decide to let a man impregnate you with a lifelong headache instead of a ring, I'll never know. Some men say because they don't want the government in their business.... what business besides the 7 years of back taxes you owe? 😂
Always an excuse for not doing the right thing. But they gaslight us for it.
Like people say, if he wanted to he would. The amount of years these people have been together and have a kid with but marriage is a bigger commitment?! Is crazy to me in my opinion.
0:33 😮never realized it had been 10 years with them
7:08 EXACTLY!!! Please explain how having a child that binds you to this person for the rest of your life is better, but a married that you can end when you choose and go your separate ways is the more difficult…. I smell bs.
I feel like man want to stay single as possible just in case someone else come along that fulfill their needs that way they don’t have to go through all the divorce problems if married. It’s like being in a relationship but single at the same time. Remember man put what’s best for them first.
15:13 You saying womb then legend crawling out of that play hole thingy was fire 😭
Anytime you hear a woman change her tune about wanting marriage or about wanting kids…. It is most definitely because of the relationship she’s in. There are women who are in a long term relationship and don’t want kids but as soon as the relationship is over they suddenly see themselves having kids. Same with wanting marriage/not wanting marriage and then vice versa… it’s because of the relationship they’re in or not in.
That clothing line is never going to materialise I give you that.
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I had an ex who wanted me to have a baby so bad. I gave him a list of things that needed to be done first. Marriage being number 1. This fool looked at me and said “I think that’s too permanent” as if a child isn’t. 😂
Basically wanting the child as a placeholder, he can always text you and “ask about the child” figure out where you live because of the “child” always be nosey getting tea through the child. Etc etc having a child for a man without a serious marriage is playing a game of Monopoly he always has his piece on your board!
They just want to be able to leave you high and dry then come back whenever they feel like it. Smh.
I’ll never understand how people can think that marriage is a bigger commitment than having a child with someone. Crazy
I’ve never been so early lol but super excited to hear your thoughts on this
Let this be a cautionary tale for us ladies. Put yourself first, don't drop your standards!
Just finished watching yannie here for you now 🫶🏾✨