I mostly agree with all this guys takes. I can say, however, he downplayed druid dex passive hard. It does help you avoid fights, sure. But it also lets you push fights easier. You can see people hiding and healing, if they are fighting, if they are holding a corner waiting for you, your enemy can't run, you always know exactly where they went, you will never get jumped. It's absolutely busted in solo
@LoopyLou96it's easier to get into, but the skill cap ain't low by any means. Just different ways to express skill (thunder and stone flasks, perfect parry, guard break etc... for example). And yes, i know what I'm talking about with 700hours and multiple demigods on 3 classes solo+duo
@LoopyLou96 DaD PVE is actually hard while the pvp is trash for most classes unless you’re fighter or barb. DB PVE is piss easy and the PvP is wayyyy more balanced than DaD. A rogue shouldn’t get 2 shot by a barb in DaD.
@LoopyLou96 I would personally never be uplifting DaD and talking about other games having bad mob AI. The mob AI in dark and darker is potentially one of the worst designed mob AI systems I’ve ever seen in my entire life and it’s been the exact same for over a year. You are coping… Dark and darker is a great game in its own ways but ain’t no way you’re using the Mob AI as an example lol 😂 people just run away in pvp and aggro every mob and you can’t chase them because the aggro will just swap to you
@LoopyLou96 lmao, man you're take is so bad and wrong. DaD is like tarkov, where instead of playing the game, the player is consistently needing to fight the game to get things done. This is the same thing I am hearing for this game, that I am for arena breakout as an alternative to play instead of tarkov, just better quality of life overall. But if you're so smooth brain to try and claim this has to do with skill gap, then you really have no credible point because you just cannot handle the fact that people prefer this game over DaD so you're coping but just claiming its a skill issue so you can ignore the reality of the situation. Its really pathetic and you give a solid reason to not take you seriously
If you make the heirloom boots rather than gloves you can stack the 40% base crit with crit on kill stacks meaning just heirloom boots can give you over 50% crit
So question. For a perk like +crit cahnce on kills, how much does all 4 stacks give you for crit? Because the other stat on the gloves gives you 18% crit chance
Yooo, whats up Fellas! :D Sorry for the slightly lower visual quality than usual, had some issues with rendering the footage which is my bad! If youre interested in the build I was using during these games then you can see the build breakdown here ruclips.net/video/eW8MQMjkCjA/видео.htmlsi=empsXGnf36E6QKx4&t=46 Hope you guys enjoy! If you have any questions feel free to drop them in the comments below :)
All they need to do is keep the damage, change dot application to 0.5s slow rather than 1s, and buff fighter/priest. What I find kills my cryo (I only play trios really) is set bonuses that slow me. But I think it’s in a good spot there just needs to be other changes
well the nerf that they did for the cryo was kind of needed. The whole damaging enemy effected by frost sheilds you was broken because it would keep stacking as a shield.
i can answer the first question in this video. yes you can solo everyone even druid and swordmaster and tank a whole whirlwind with little to no damage as long as you have ice armor up always and its cooling down since it has a 30sec cooldown it last for 1minute which is 60 sec you have to use ice armor when its up so that you can ice armor 2 times on a fight and much better if you can prepare and drink a shield pot before a fight and health pot because the shields stack before the latest patch and honestly i feel like a god tbh since most of them have no perks so druid cant see you and other classes too. so no gear cryo is insane.
My issue with several classes is that its just too easy to engage and deal with just about anything thrown at you. With DK, Fighter, and Rogue you actually have to outplay someone while the other classes can just zone you with ease. Sure, if you catch a druid or Cryo in a very small room, you can kill them before they leave, but even then, they may outplay you.
I agree. There's not much outplay when the class is just about point and click an unblockable low cooldown curse, then they do anything they want while staying away. If they have life on hit they can curse monsters around and it's gg. Unkillable. It's basically warlock from dark and darker now.
Yea i play DK and i really enjoy fights with other classes even druid's, but cyros just never seen to lose any health, even if you get close they just don't go down
Ah hell nah, thats hilarious... the food review guy you mean + BBno$, thats pretty interesting 😂 I actually love bbno$ music though wont even lie, back to back to back by him and gravy goes hard
*is garbage. This game is the Temu version of dark and darker lmao. No PvP balance whatsoever, its a playground for meta spamming nerds with a power fantasy.
@@VinisKitchen22 I found this video of russian gamer killing Vendigo solo, highroll with Pyro - ruclips.net/video/DWXB12vV8c8/видео.htmlsi=LIVsDRszQiMqtoRR
I love this game. I think it's miles ahead of DnD. They thought they would have no competition and have been very lazy with their games. As opposed to Dungeonborne where they seem to be more in tune with the community. I also think none of the class are better than the other, it just the game being new; not knowing how to counter. I find a lot of players don't block enough, blocking is huge in this game, along with all the throwables people don't use. Once people get the hang of this games, especially in comp; the fight will be insane. That could never be said for DnD, where the fights only last 1 min or less with bows and arrows.
this game is hot garbage. Its the temu version of dark and darker. Class balance is nowhere to be found in this game. The meta is spamming ranged attacks. Playing on a melee only class is literally not possible in PvP.
Potentially, idk though. I kind of like that the casual mode has brackets and the Classic mode doesnt. I think having the variety of choices is pretty good and really like both of the game modes for different reasons. If Im just trying to have some enjoyable evenly geared pvp then I just go to casual and I can still make good gold because everyone is going to have some gear. Then in Classic there is the potential to farm legendaries and fight giga juicer squads but typically you will find a lot of people running around in heirlooms only. But, last night I was playing trios on classic and ran into a streamer squad, we wiped them and made like 250k gold from one fight lol
@@ammonn9930 I believe it. They absolutely suck vs someone blocking their damage. Yoink them in human form and you can lay into them as they transform.
Nah dont nerf any of the three, bring dk up a little and buff fighter some. Probably remove some of rogues scaling but give them better base stats or leave rogues alone not sure. They do really well geared. I think pyro is balanced not sure what to do about priest lol
I've seen a wicked priest. Well the #1 dude. I had 12k damage and got 0 zero kills. It was 20-1 and out of my teams total 26k damage we got ONE kill...it hurt my ego so bad
Mild Fighter and DK buffs. Fairly decent Rogue buffs. Massive Priest buffs. OR Cryo, SM, Druid nerfs. The latter is easier to do as a dev team. So it's what we got.
They just nerfed Cryo into the ground... passives nerfed, soul energy nerfed, damage nerfed. Nerfs just make games boring. There are what like 5 weak classes in this game and they've been weak since the beginning, zero buffs, only nerfs lol
I'm new to the game and curious about the gear based match making. I notice you have blue heirlooms, is this on purpose or just because you're not done progressing them? I'm trying to see if there's a certain amount of gear score people try to stay under to avoid getting lobbies with full epics etc.
I just wasnt done progressing them at this point, I was trying to get heirlooms for cloth, leather and plate all at once pretty early on so none of them were fully upgraded quite yet. :)
I win 95% of my fights as death knight the only time I die really is when I just got out of a fight low on hp healing and get thunderclapped deathknight is crazy op
Hello, I wanted to tell you that maybe if you put subtitles in Spanish you will have more subscribers to the channel since you would attract more audiences.
It's actually insane how over powered the death night and cryomancer are there have been some slight changes already which really didn't do much but this class is my least fav just for the fact that it takes no skill. I was in the top 100 priests last week. That is more of an accomplishment in my opinion 😂
Classic wasnt available for Castle at the time and I wanted to play Castle since I was on Cryomancer. But towards the end of my stream the Classic rotation went back to Castle and then I was playing Classic, still absolutely rolling lobbies and it was even worse than Casual. When you play classic you run into full default + Heirloom timmies 80-90% of the time and then occasionally a really geared player. When you play casual its usually pretty evenly geared due to the GBMM. Classic is probably easier to farm timmies than Casual and I think the data on the leaderboards probably supports that theory and even from my games on stream yesterday as well. I mean when I switched to classic I was getting more kills than I was in this video...
I think Damage stack on kill is better typically. You get like 40% flat crit chance from just your boots so you dont need too much more beyond that, with just boots youre still critting 100% of the time you hit the head and half the time you dont which feels pretty solid to me IMO :)
Going to depend on the person but it certainly has significantly less active players now than it at its peak. Hop on Google and just search up "SteamDB Dungeonborne Charts" You can find live player count there and it has a historical graph as well. Last I checked over a week or two ago it was at like 900 current players give or take. Most people would probably call that dead but its not quite like dead dead yet, people are definitely still getting into games, just maybe long queue times and stuff like that I imagine.
I dont get it. How are people playing against you are this bad. I suggest you make content in sinners end where the map does not have many areas you can easily kite compared to beginners map. Players there are also better.
I dont think Sinners end would be the best choice for a ranged class that wants to kite if you are trying to grind the leaderboard. But I do plan on making content on sinners end :)
@@VinisKitchen22 It is the 2nd video I watched from you and to be honest I did not know you wanted to climb leaderboard. Keep going what you do then cryo is godlike class and you are good at it anyways
@@vivo_sonriendo1587 casual has gearscore based matchmaking, I was in greens and blues and so were most of my opponents. In classic you mostly fight people in greys + heirlooms
Ok bro cryomancer its op but you cant negate use a wallhack because its ok the map its medium big but you say always where the player are, i appreciate your content video but in this 1 hour i see evrything i think this
U play cryo well just wish I can see you against real players for ones. Casuals players especially on castle are just terrible you probably literally have 3x play time then the whole rest of the lobby combined Would love to see this in classic sinner but I feel like you’d have a chance there
To be fair, every other dungeonborne video ive posted has been strictly clips from Classic (Sinners end and Castle). I just wanted to play Castle since I think Cryo operates a lot better on the open map than the constricted one but when I started stream Classic rotation was on Sinners end so I just ended up playing a bunch of casual that stream because the GBMM was honestly pretty fun. Being able to just drop like 10-15k to go in and get some good pvp feels great everyonce in a while compared to getting juiced up and sweating in Classic haha
There is a different leaderboard for casual and classic for each map, so 4 total and then there is also an "overall ranking" which averages your scores across all leaderboards that you are active on I believe. From what I can tell, its definitely easier to farm kills quicker and more efficiently in Classic mode though so if you want a good spot on the overall ranking you probably want to focus Classic. Ive still got the rank 1 spot for Casual Castle and Im like 60 something on the Overall leaderboard for Cryomancer. In Classic you can run full purples or even legendaries and fight mostly people in grays + heirlooms since no gearscore matchmaking. Casual has Gearscore based matchmaking so most of your fight are relatively even on gear.
@@chrisfrancis7666 Yeah, from what I’ve been told the gear score brackets aren’t set in stone and changed based on number of players queuing etc. but it seems like it’s roughly 0-7 8-26 27-33 and then 33+. Anything over 26 typically has like 3 or less total players, so in these games I was running like 20-25 gearscore
It would be nice if you sweaties played in the harder mode so us less capable pvp players can play without fear of getting our assets chewed which eats the funnfor us haha. You having fun is kinda ruining it for a large percentage of players.. I know grt gud but this game is this hell fun..
Yeah, I feel that. To be fair, every other video ive made about dungeonborne and almost 95% of the time I exclusively play classic. I just wanted to play Cryo on Castle on stream at that point and Classic was set to sinners end :/
u may not be rank 1 cryo but to me u are since u didnt start off as a cryo ya feel @vinidiction (when u said u would blame chat if ppl got mad about your rank not being 1 ofc)
I don't understand why streamers will take a ton of pots but leave blue weapons...a single one of those will sell and give enough money for 15 pots easily.
It isnt quite yet, but I think the devs are definitely on the right track. They seem to definitely be aware that the caster meta especially in group play is pretty oppressive at the moment and are trying good ways to change it, the new rogue ability is a very interesting idea as an example.
@@pieomyy well I had the option to either lit up in full purples and farm players in full greys with 3 heirlooms in classics or I could get into the medium gear score bracket of casual lobbies and fight players that are evenly geared to me *shrug*. Pick your poison, if anything classic would’ve been easier to farm newbs. But also actually I didn’t even have the option cause I wanted to play castle and classic was on the sinners end rotation at the time :/
Seems like they try bandaging in front of you cuz theres literally no counter play tf else are they supposed to do lol This is gross all this unavoidable damage and infinite kiting
No offence dude but load into harder games if you only want kills, those in the first game are all very low gear players (probably new) so obviously you will be killing everyone. You are ruining their experience, being very well geared going against no gear players' just sad man.
Bro, its gearscore based matchmaking... I was in greens and blues, everybody I was fighting was in greens and blues. I wanted to play the castle map and Classic was only available on sinners end at that time. But, more importantly I was evenly geared with everyone I fought.
I wasnt really flexing it lol, Castle was just casual only whenever I started streaming. I started grinding the leaderboard on stream and got to R1 in the mode that has GBMM. I feel like thats an accomplishment that was worthy of making a video about, thats all. Not making videos to "flex", just making videos to entertain, inform and ultimately bring people into the game.
What is this with the people who ignore all the monster to just kill other player? Go Arena Mode when you want to only do pvp. They are just as annoying like the people who want a PvE mode only.
@@NeroTheAngel I mean I just like the PVP in the extraction mode more than the arena 😅 I get to keep and sell the gear of my opponent and then upgrade my own which creates progression that doesn’t happen in arenas :)
Who cares about casual? You're going in with low GS and farming new players (killing the game) for a useless casual leaderboard stat lol. Classic or it doesn't count
2 minutes in, learned the new tech of bandaging infront of the enemy. banger video
I mostly agree with all this guys takes.
I can say, however, he downplayed druid dex passive hard. It does help you avoid fights, sure. But it also lets you push fights easier. You can see people hiding and healing, if they are fighting, if they are holding a corner waiting for you, your enemy can't run, you always know exactly where they went, you will never get jumped. It's absolutely busted in solo
Dont worry haha, I know how strong druid is, I ended up placing them S+ in solos on my tier list :)
This game is so much more enjoyable than Dark and Darker. Love the fact you can see damage numbers and that skill > gear in a lot of cases.
its more casual and you can be top tier player while on the phone with wife and holding a baby in other hand
@LoopyLou96it's easier to get into, but the skill cap ain't low by any means. Just different ways to express skill (thunder and stone flasks, perfect parry, guard break etc... for example).
And yes, i know what I'm talking about with 700hours and multiple demigods on 3 classes solo+duo
@LoopyLou96 DaD PVE is actually hard while the pvp is trash for most classes unless you’re fighter or barb. DB PVE is piss easy and the PvP is wayyyy more balanced than DaD. A rogue shouldn’t get 2 shot by a barb in DaD.
@LoopyLou96 I would personally never be uplifting DaD and talking about other games having bad mob AI. The mob AI in dark and darker is potentially one of the worst designed mob AI systems I’ve ever seen in my entire life and it’s been the exact same for over a year. You are coping…
Dark and darker is a great game in its own ways but ain’t no way you’re using the Mob AI as an example lol 😂 people just run away in pvp and aggro every mob and you can’t chase them because the aggro will just swap to you
@LoopyLou96 lmao, man you're take is so bad and wrong. DaD is like tarkov, where instead of playing the game, the player is consistently needing to fight the game to get things done. This is the same thing I am hearing for this game, that I am for arena breakout as an alternative to play instead of tarkov, just better quality of life overall. But if you're so smooth brain to try and claim this has to do with skill gap, then you really have no credible point because you just cannot handle the fact that people prefer this game over DaD so you're coping but just claiming its a skill issue so you can ignore the reality of the situation. Its really pathetic and you give a solid reason to not take you seriously
Waiting with the Cryo nerf... absolutely broken their slow lmao i've should be try cryo now to have fun like this
oh ye my favourite youtuber since dungeonborne dropped playing cryomancer once again
If you make the heirloom boots rather than gloves you can stack the 40% base crit with crit on kill stacks meaning just heirloom boots can give you over 50% crit
Yep, someone mentioned that to me on stream as well I definitely gotta craft up some booties
It can't make both I think, at least I couldn't. It says I already have one hairlooom item in the inventory
Yeah you cant, thats why he said "boots rather than gloves"😊 @fernandomonzon834
So question. For a perk like +crit cahnce on kills, how much does all 4 stacks give you for crit? Because the other stat on the gloves gives you 18% crit chance
I just saw this video and its fun to see that druid needs a nerf and actually got buffed XD
Cryo for sure needs adjustments lol
Nice video. By the looks of it, we have a similar K/D ratio, but I only play 10-15 games per week 😊
Yooo, whats up Fellas! :D Sorry for the slightly lower visual quality than usual, had some issues with rendering the footage which is my bad! If youre interested in the build I was using during these games then you can see the build breakdown here ruclips.net/video/eW8MQMjkCjA/видео.htmlsi=empsXGnf36E6QKx4&t=46
Hope you guys enjoy! If you have any questions feel free to drop them in the comments below :)
If they started bandaging from the start can you interrupt them? Because if you run out of mana don't they pretty much win that engagement by default?
Banger video!
All they need to do is keep the damage, change dot application to 0.5s slow rather than 1s, and buff fighter/priest. What I find kills my cryo (I only play trios really) is set bonuses that slow me. But I think it’s in a good spot there just needs to be other changes
well the nerf that they did for the cryo was kind of needed. The whole damaging enemy effected by frost sheilds you was broken because it would keep stacking as a shield.
i can answer the first question in this video. yes you can solo everyone even druid and swordmaster and tank a whole whirlwind with little to no damage as long as you have ice armor up always and its cooling down since it has a 30sec cooldown it last for 1minute which is 60 sec you have to use ice armor when its up so that you can ice armor 2 times on a fight and much better if you can prepare and drink a shield pot before a fight and health pot because the shields stack before the latest patch and honestly i feel like a god tbh since most of them have no perks so druid cant see you and other classes too. so no gear cryo is insane.
some new tech hahahaha, It's panic bandaging hahaha
Time to get some snackies for this one!
so cool this game!!!
Hopefully they vault this class and Druid next update.. but we’ll see.
My issue with several classes is that its just too easy to engage and deal with just about anything thrown at you.
With DK, Fighter, and Rogue you actually have to outplay someone while the other classes can just zone you with ease. Sure, if you catch a druid or Cryo in a very small room, you can kill them before they leave, but even then, they may outplay you.
I agree. There's not much outplay when the class is just about point and click an unblockable low cooldown curse, then they do anything they want while staying away. If they have life on hit they can curse monsters around and it's gg. Unkillable. It's basically warlock from dark and darker now.
I agree that you have to play smart as a Rogue, but as a Fighter or DK, all you have to do is press W.
Yea i play DK and i really enjoy fights with other classes even druid's, but cyros just never seen to lose any health, even if you get close they just don't go down
@@Ak3R0 Fighter and DK can W key Rogues, sure, but that's because they're stronger than rogues and DKs especially counter rogues.
you look like if the reportoftheweek guy and that one musician had a baby I think BBnos is his name
it’s so weirdly accurate i can’t even believe you thought of that
Ah hell nah, thats hilarious... the food review guy you mean + BBno$, thats pretty interesting 😂
I actually love bbno$ music though wont even lie, back to back to back by him and gravy goes hard
video image quality op
thought it was just my wifi lmao
I wish this game didn’t feel so janky, it could be pretty cool
dungeon born pvp is great. lots of potential vs dark and darker
*is garbage. This game is the Temu version of dark and darker lmao. No PvP balance whatsoever, its a playground for meta spamming nerds with a power fantasy.
That class is yigabusted even if some meles play it perfect they still lose yikes. Good content
For Vendigo boss you do not need a Team, it takes 7-8 mins to take it solo.
@@alexswiftness3480 has anyone solod it clown classic yet?
@@VinisKitchen22 I found this video of russian gamer killing Vendigo solo, highroll with Pyro - ruclips.net/video/DWXB12vV8c8/видео.htmlsi=LIVsDRszQiMqtoRR
I love this game. I think it's miles ahead of DnD. They thought they would have no competition and have been very lazy with their games. As opposed to Dungeonborne where they seem to be more in tune with the community. I also think none of the class are better than the other, it just the game being new; not knowing how to counter. I find a lot of players don't block enough, blocking is huge in this game, along with all the throwables people don't use. Once people get the hang of this games, especially in comp; the fight will be insane. That could never be said for DnD, where the fights only last 1 min or less with bows and arrows.
this game is hot garbage. Its the temu version of dark and darker. Class balance is nowhere to be found in this game. The meta is spamming ranged attacks. Playing on a melee only class is literally not possible in PvP.
Needs gear brackets for classic.
Potentially, idk though. I kind of like that the casual mode has brackets and the Classic mode doesnt. I think having the variety of choices is pretty good and really like both of the game modes for different reasons.
If Im just trying to have some enjoyable evenly geared pvp then I just go to casual and I can still make good gold because everyone is going to have some gear.
Then in Classic there is the potential to farm legendaries and fight giga juicer squads but typically you will find a lot of people running around in heirlooms only. But, last night I was playing trios on classic and ran into a streamer squad, we wiped them and made like 250k gold from one fight lol
They are talking about changes to druid yet cryomancer is so much stronger....
Druids a pub stomper. Pub stompers always get people crying.
With my dk i melted so many druids you wont believe
@@ammonn9930 I believe it. They absolutely suck vs someone blocking their damage. Yoink them in human form and you can lay into them as they transform.
Imo, Druids should get a buff, free kill.
Nah dont nerf any of the three, bring dk up a little and buff fighter some. Probably remove some of rogues scaling but give them better base stats or leave rogues alone not sure. They do really well geared.
I think pyro is balanced not sure what to do about priest lol
I've seen a wicked priest. Well the #1 dude. I had 12k damage and got 0 zero kills. It was 20-1 and out of my teams total 26k damage we got ONE kill...it hurt my ego so bad
Mild Fighter and DK buffs. Fairly decent Rogue buffs. Massive Priest buffs.
OR
Cryo, SM, Druid nerfs.
The latter is easier to do as a dev team. So it's what we got.
4:11 felt the need to clarify that it’s not the game that’s good, just that particular match 😂
Dang. If it wasn’t for the frame rate, I’d watch the entire thing start to finish
have you tried a life on hit cryo build yet very busted rn
Have not tried it yet, I do want to give it a shot but Ive got some secret sauce for other classes Im cooking up first ;)
Mages are such a pain in the ass
They just nerfed Cryo into the ground... passives nerfed, soul energy nerfed, damage nerfed. Nerfs just make games boring. There are what like 5 weak classes in this game and they've been weak since the beginning, zero buffs, only nerfs lol
Cryo is still going to be really strong, I think the devs are making pretty calculated changes tbh
I'm new to the game and curious about the gear based match making.
I notice you have blue heirlooms, is this on purpose or just because you're not done progressing them?
I'm trying to see if there's a certain amount of gear score people try to stay under to avoid getting lobbies with full epics etc.
I just wasnt done progressing them at this point, I was trying to get heirlooms for cloth, leather and plate all at once pretty early on so none of them were fully upgraded quite yet. :)
Could you make a build for this?
ice mages op ye xd warrior with dual swords kinda good yo
Yessir, Dual wield Swords is definitely slept on and Im already cooking up some secret sauce builds for DK and Fighter with it ;)
@@VinisKitchen22 dual wield is also good on swordmaster as well, especially since swords atdd crit chance and high dex sword master means crit damage
H-Town til I drown 🤘🏽
Yessirski!
Does any part of the clothing work for forging, or are some pieces better than others?
What Heirlooms should I get and what rolls?
Just be cryo looks like the easiest way to get rank 1, seems to be the best class so far and easy to be good with it. Just at first glance atleast
interaction speed vs spell recover speed on staff? for cryo. or something other?
I win 95% of my fights as death knight the only time I die really is when I just got out of a fight low on hp healing and get thunderclapped deathknight is crazy op
Cryo is no match for my death knight
Been wanting to play cryo tho
what a bullshiet balance class is that
What E are you using? Can the ice armor be cast on yourself?
Yes it can. When you activate the skill, you can self cast by pressing "F" (your loot button)
this build continue working whfit the nerf?
Mans got that Valorant voice.
Hello, I wanted to tell you that maybe if you put subtitles in Spanish you will have more subscribers to the channel since you would attract more audiences.
dude you are killing all those undergeared people lol
@@whysf1228 I was in greens and blues and so were they 😂 it is the medium gearscore bracket of casual
For future what fear passives are you using? Thanks
For Cryo I think Dex is #1, then Intelligence, then will if youre playing solos :)
If only it meant anything being rank #1 of 5 games which u can do on repeat until u get results. Such a shame leaderboard
Why not take the heirlooms?
It's actually insane how over powered the death night and cryomancer are there have been some slight changes already which really didn't do much but this class is my least fav just for the fact that it takes no skill. I was in the top 100 priests last week. That is more of an accomplishment in my opinion 😂
How do you make your game screen so bright? I have already adjusted the game brightness to the highest setting, but it is still very dark when I play.
Turn Shadows off :)
Are you playing on casual? One star difficulty?
Classic wasnt available for Castle at the time and I wanted to play Castle since I was on Cryomancer. But towards the end of my stream the Classic rotation went back to Castle and then I was playing Classic, still absolutely rolling lobbies and it was even worse than Casual.
When you play classic you run into full default + Heirloom timmies 80-90% of the time and then occasionally a really geared player. When you play casual its usually pretty evenly geared due to the GBMM. Classic is probably easier to farm timmies than Casual and I think the data on the leaderboards probably supports that theory and even from my games on stream yesterday as well. I mean when I switched to classic I was getting more kills than I was in this video...
Why is there a white pointy hat in this game kinda sus ngl
Is this build still good or did they nerf the sh*** out of it
Are you using life on hit? What its better to have, critic stack on kill or damage stack on kill? Thanks
I think Damage stack on kill is better typically. You get like 40% flat crit chance from just your boots so you dont need too much more beyond that, with just boots youre still critting 100% of the time you hit the head and half the time you dont which feels pretty solid to me IMO :)
Is this game still alive?
Going to depend on the person but it certainly has significantly less active players now than it at its peak. Hop on Google and just search up "SteamDB Dungeonborne Charts" You can find live player count there and it has a historical graph as well. Last I checked over a week or two ago it was at like 900 current players give or take. Most people would probably call that dead but its not quite like dead dead yet, people are definitely still getting into games, just maybe long queue times and stuff like that I imagine.
I dont get it. How are people playing against you are this bad. I suggest you make content in sinners end where the map does not have many areas you can easily kite compared to beginners map. Players there are also better.
I dont think Sinners end would be the best choice for a ranged class that wants to kite if you are trying to grind the leaderboard. But I do plan on making content on sinners end :)
@@VinisKitchen22 It is the 2nd video I watched from you and to be honest I did not know you wanted to climb leaderboard. Keep going what you do then cryo is godlike class and you are good at it anyways
He is playing casual, not classic that's why... He is fighting with people who have bad stuff
@@vivo_sonriendo1587 casual has gearscore based matchmaking, I was in greens and blues and so were most of my opponents.
In classic you mostly fight people in greys + heirlooms
I don’t imunderstand how i play classic or casual with 9 gs, and all the lobby is 20 or 30 full epic
Ok bro cryomancer its op but you cant negate use a wallhack because its ok the map its medium big but you say always where the player are, i appreciate your content video but in this 1 hour i see evrything i think this
U play cryo well just wish I can see you against real players for ones.
Casuals players especially on castle are just terrible you probably literally have 3x play time then the whole rest of the lobby combined
Would love to see this in classic sinner but I feel like you’d have a chance there
To be fair, every other dungeonborne video ive posted has been strictly clips from Classic (Sinners end and Castle). I just wanted to play Castle since I think Cryo operates a lot better on the open map than the constricted one but when I started stream Classic rotation was on Sinners end so I just ended up playing a bunch of casual that stream because the GBMM was honestly pretty fun. Being able to just drop like 10-15k to go in and get some good pvp feels great everyonce in a while compared to getting juiced up and sweating in Classic haha
So you can grind leaderboard on casual ???
There is a different leaderboard for casual and classic for each map, so 4 total and then there is also an "overall ranking" which averages your scores across all leaderboards that you are active on I believe.
From what I can tell, its definitely easier to farm kills quicker and more efficiently in Classic mode though so if you want a good spot on the overall ranking you probably want to focus Classic. Ive still got the rank 1 spot for Casual Castle and Im like 60 something on the Overall leaderboard for Cryomancer. In Classic you can run full purples or even legendaries and fight mostly people in grays + heirlooms since no gearscore matchmaking. Casual has Gearscore based matchmaking so most of your fight are relatively even on gear.
you don t fail an hit................... aimbot ??? nice
are you using greens/blues on purpose to lower gear score?
@@chrisfrancis7666 Yeah, from what I’ve been told the gear score brackets aren’t set in stone and changed based on number of players queuing etc. but it seems like it’s roughly 0-7 8-26 27-33 and then 33+.
Anything over 26 typically has like 3 or less total players, so in these games I was running like 20-25 gearscore
wait how tf did you shield yourself.
E then press F to do it to yourself instead of a target.
It would be nice if you sweaties played in the harder mode so us less capable pvp players can play without fear of getting our assets chewed which eats the funnfor us haha. You having fun is kinda ruining it for a large percentage of players.. I know grt gud but this game is this hell fun..
It would be nice I'd u didn't cru about pvp in a pvp game
Yeah, I feel that. To be fair, every other video ive made about dungeonborne and almost 95% of the time I exclusively play classic. I just wanted to play Cryo on Castle on stream at that point and Classic was set to sinners end :/
u may not be rank 1 cryo but to me u are since u didnt start off as a cryo ya feel @vinidiction (when u said u would blame chat if ppl got mad about your rank not being 1 ofc)
I don't understand why streamers will take a ton of pots but leave blue weapons...a single one of those will sell and give enough money for 15 pots easily.
Thank god cryo is nerfed and these toxic builds are out lol. Too many “run away” playstyles in video games now. Not enough head on fighting.
Couldn't agree more, not sure if that nerf is enough though.
It isnt quite yet, but I think the devs are definitely on the right track. They seem to definitely be aware that the caster meta especially in group play is pretty oppressive at the moment and are trying good ways to change it, the new rogue ability is a very interesting idea as an example.
cyro is so broken and skillless OP class, you justy Q and use staff and miss dagger and use shield. hope they nerf it to the ground.
dude they must nerf u, and cryo :D
Cryo for sure, me? I cant be nerfed 😎
What a weak class. They should give cryo also a speed buff or a 1000 move speed form like druid does. I mean nobody is supposed to fight back right.
Spamming casual castle to farm KDA from new players is WILD tho
@@pieomyy well I had the option to either lit up in full purples and farm players in full greys with 3 heirlooms in classics or I could get into the medium gear score bracket of casual lobbies and fight players that are evenly geared to me *shrug*. Pick your poison, if anything classic would’ve been easier to farm newbs.
But also actually I didn’t even have the option cause I wanted to play castle and classic was on the sinners end rotation at the time :/
cyro with those passives on with such low gear is really downplayed when you say evenly matched gear, they’re just noobs
Seems like they try bandaging in front of you cuz theres literally no counter play tf else are they supposed to do lol
This is gross all this unavoidable damage and infinite kiting
@@vowish5319 I would recommend that if they want to bandage they might want to like get out of my line of sight first at least lol
What a skill less class
characters who dont have skill expression and just make things happen by clicking buttons (like cryo, druid, pyro) are just not healthy for games.
Everybody crying about nerfs, git gud
this dude is a yapper
No offence dude but load into harder games if you only want kills, those in the first game are all very low gear players (probably new) so obviously you will be killing everyone. You are ruining their experience, being very well geared going against no gear players' just sad man.
Bro, its gearscore based matchmaking... I was in greens and blues, everybody I was fighting was in greens and blues. I wanted to play the castle map and Classic was only available on sinners end at that time. But, more importantly I was evenly geared with everyone I fought.
Bro it’s casual… flexing r1 on casual why?
I wasnt really flexing it lol, Castle was just casual only whenever I started streaming. I started grinding the leaderboard on stream and got to R1 in the mode that has GBMM. I feel like thats an accomplishment that was worthy of making a video about, thats all. Not making videos to "flex", just making videos to entertain, inform and ultimately bring people into the game.
Time to uninstall the game, i only play rogue and is imposible
What is this with the people who ignore all the monster to just kill other player? Go Arena Mode when you want to only do pvp. They are just as annoying like the people who want a PvE mode only.
@@NeroTheAngel I mean I just like the PVP in the extraction mode more than the arena 😅 I get to keep and sell the gear of my opponent and then upgrade my own which creates progression that doesn’t happen in arenas :)
@@VinisKitchen22 That is not a problem at all but you disrespect the environment and so you ignore half of the game.
dude you are not top1
lol... go check the stream brotha, it was all done live
Who cares about casual? You're going in with low GS and farming new players (killing the game) for a useless casual leaderboard stat lol. Classic or it doesn't count