"the Zimmer telegram would prove Somewhat of a game changer" Don't you just love it how Indy can make enticing cliffhangers out of something that already happened??
Great episode. And I love how you guys talk about all the fronts during the great war. Most TV programs only talk about the westeren front. But never about Greece Romania or the Italian front. Keep on rocking guys.
Best books I know about the Alpine front: - 'A Year on the High Plateau', by Emilio Lussu (1937, Italian point of view) - 'Men in War', by Andreas Latzko (1917, Austro-Hungarian point of view) Both authors were soldiers and fought in many battles. Both books are filled with melancholy and gory details. Have a good reading!
just a note: in italian, names of the masculine gender end in O for the singular and I for the plural. when talking about a single Italian Alpine combatant, the correct form is "Alpino". "Alpini" is the plural.
Anyone interested in the conflict in the Dolomites should visit the mountain Lagazuoi. The entire thing was one big battlefield littered with tunnels, barracks on the side of cliffs, surrounded by forts. The top of the mountain is now entirely flat: it used to be an Austrian position, so the Italians dug tunnels right below them, filled them up with dynamite and just blew up the mountaintop. It's quite bewildering to stand there, as if a giant had just cut off the tip with a knife. One fort next to Lagazuoi was quite interesting, it belonged to the Austrians, but they just left it empty with the lights on. The Italians kept shelling it for years until the end of the war.
The Mexican Verdun. From december 1914 to june 1915, during the civil war phase of mexican revolution, there was a battle at El Ébano in the main oilfield zone of Mexico. Villistas against Carrancistas. There was the longest battle of mexican revolution and was actually a trench battle. Mud, blood and oilspills. Carrancista press called it later the Mexican Verdun. Obviously, taking into account the casualties were less than 10k, the style and tactics of the battle were very exceptional for the standards of mexican revolution. Also, considering that carrancistas won the civil war, for propagandistic purposes, the Verdun comparation was a great achieve for Carranza. Villa's plan to take the decisive oil exports to Europe failed.
Your description of the alpine fighting between Austria and Italy does not mention the extreme relief of the Dolomites, which is due to the dolomite they are made of. The verticality is amazing.
Love your Show i have a Question for out of The Trenches: What happend to Germans Living in Other countrys for example France. Did they have to leave The Country or were they discriminated ? Keep up The Good work
In the new independent Poland (spoiler 😀) Germans were accepted to stay. Many declared themselves Polish, as for more than a 100 years being Polish was more a state of mind rather than a nationality. After demise of Austro-Hungary people living in southern Małopolska, in Lwów, Winnica, Kołomyja etc were free to choose if they wanted to stay and be loyal to Poland and declare themselves Polish or stay loyal being of a different nationality or leave the country. My great-grandfather was one of 3 brothers. He lived in Lwów, one of the brothers lived in Buda and the third in Kraków. All were German. My great-grandfather declared himself as a Polish.His brother from Buda declared himself a German and stayed in Hungary, while third brother from Kraków declared himself as a German and moved to Vienna. I can add that my great-grandfather had not suffered any discrimination because of his ancestry and surname in Poland, was however heavily beaten by gestapo during WW II when he refused to sign a volksdeutch list. My family had to buy him out, he would have been killed by Germans otherwise.
They were allowed to stay. As late as 1945 there were 6 million Germans living in Eastern Europe. They were expelled post war with minor exeptions, like in Transylvania or along the Volga. I remember reading about a small German community in Northern Bulgaria that existed from the middle ages untill 1940 or so. Then the Nazis of all people made them move to prevent race mixing and preserve the Bulgarian Lebensraum. Special exeption was made for two women who were married. All the rest were expelled.
My Italian grandfather fought as an Alpini soldier for nearly 3 years until invalided out as a poison gas victim. He fought at Monte Pasubio and Cimone d'Arsiero on the Trento front.
I would recommend visiting the alpine front, you can have both great hikes combining great views and history as well. Forts, trenches, dug out tunnels and forts inside mountains, museums filled with weapons and huge sanctuary-cemetery built after the war.
Thank you for making such an amazing Chanel. And for giving interest in WWI, thanks to you guys WWI has become my favorite part of history. Keep up the great work.
I read 10,000 men died in avalanches in the Alps on one day in December 1916. it was known as the white death. ( Mark Thompson, The White war. ) Not sure if the avalanches were deliberately triggered by explosives. This is a great series, especially about lesser known aspects of the war, I hope it continues indefinitely.
Its a miracle that with all the artillery fire and constant battle disruptions there was still rock and snow left to form an avalanche this late into the war. I wouldnt put it past either italy or austria hungary to deliberately cause one to kill the enemy tho. It was the great war after all. Kmowing italys and austrias capabilities on that front, it also wouldnt surprise me that by deliberately triggering avalanches they both killed more of their own men than the enemies men.
I'm guessing the Alpini throwing rocks a the Machine Gunners was sitting in a perch above them that they couldn't get their guns onto due to the elevation/angle. Smart thinking - well done that man!
While you mentionned the figthing conditions in the Alps, a focus on what's going on in the Vosges and Alsace would be interesting. This part of the front is always forgotten.
I can't believe I'm finally caught up! Anyway thank you Indy, Flo, and the gang for the fantastic work you're doing bringing WWI to light. This is a conflict that has been overshadowed in almost every way by its bigger cousin. Looking forward to two and a half more years of the Great War. Keep it up.
Amazing, captivating, informative episode!!. ~ Well, I guess that encapsulates *every* single episode. That shooter pelting making use of rock's'... hahahahaha oh boy!, how times have changed.
This was one of the cleverest manouvers in history. It mad the French loose their head, declair war first and by doing so united the different German speaking countries to suport Prussia.
I think Franz von Papen's antics in North America during the war deserve an entire episode if not a whole channel. He was genuinely insane. Please dedicate a segment of Out of the Trenches to him as he played a significant role in post-war Germany
Thank you. I didn't know about it. Because of your comment I read a bit and it is quite interessting and unexpected. Indeed without maybe Hitler never came go power, he fully underestimated him.
Hey Indy! I have a few stories from both my wife's family and my own that I wanted to share. I hope you find these interesting and possibly they'll show up on an "Out of the Ether" episode. My wife's family is half Italian, and her grandfather, Santo Rotolo, was originally an Italian army conscript during the Italo-Turkish war. Both he and his brother, Nunzio, saw action during the Libyan campaign and once told his son-my wife's father-that "they had the Arab [bodies] stacked like chord wood". This is all I know of his service there, and I will try to find out more. In 1913, both Santo and Nunzio had been discharged from the military and emigrated to America. Santo had become a carpenter by the time the US entered war, and both he and his brother were drafted. Despite speaking no English, the Rotolo brothers proved old hands when it came to learning drill, which surprised the drill instructors. Sadly, this is about all we know about their service in WWI. The archive that house their service records was destroyed by fire during the seventies and the only thing we have is a citizen certificate of Santo's that says that he earned his American citizenship upon his honorable discharge from the US army. We are proud to say that Santo's son and my father-in-law, Bonaventure, continued in the path of his father, enlisting in the US Army and serving two tours in Viet Nam before being honorably discharged. On my side of the family, I had several ancestors serve and one died, though not from enemy action. This was Alvie Newman, a cousin from Sagrada, Missouri. He was inducted into the US army on September 20, 1917 and served in Battery C, 130th Field Artiller, 35th Division. Sadly, his story ends shortly thereafter. He was shipped to Camp Doniphan, Oklahoma, which was the main camp of the 35th Division. He contracted pneumonia, and on January 25th, 1918, died of it. He was 24 years old, and his young wife never remarried. One ancestor that saw action and survived was my great-grandfather, Sgt. Joseph Lapsley Kennedy. He was inducted into the US army in Kansas City, Missouri, on June 1st, 1917 and served in Company H, 3rd Missouri National Guard. This was later combined with other units to form the 140th Infantry Regiment in the 35th Division. As an aside, the 35th "Santa Fe" Division was comprised of units from western Missouri, eastern Kansas, and northeastern Oklahoma. After training at Camp Doniphan, Sgt. Kennedy and the rest of the 140th were shipped out to France on April 25th, 1918. They would take part in the Meuse-Argonne offensive, and would return to the United States a year to the day that they had left. Joe Kennedy would be elected to the Missouri state legislature in the 1920's and father two daughters. One of them was my grandmother, Betty Jo. My final story is not militaristic in nature, but serves as a window into the general feelings of anti-German sentiment shortly after the United States declared war on Germany. As you mentioned in a previous episode, the German immigrant population was a large one in the Midwest, particularly in central Missouri, along the Missouri River valley. The initial German settlers came during the early 1850's, after the failed revolts of 1848-49 in the German kingdoms. They settled the river valley and it soon became known as the "Missouri Rhineland". Some of these where my ancestors, the Ehlers. They settled in a small town called Cole Camp, and though they fought in the American Civil War on the side of the Union, and became successful farmers, they maintained the old German traditions. One of these was speaking German over English, and this nearly caused the death of my great-great grandfather, Johan Bernhard Ehlers. Shortly after 1917, there was (spoiler alert!) a great deal of anti-German sentiment, bordering on hysteria. Shortly after the declaration of war, Johan went south to another town to conduct some business there. When he got there, he found the town in an uproar, the declaration of war having come out a day or two beforehand. Because of this, when Johan asked directions in the little broken English that he knew, the crowd immediately turned on him, crying that they had "one of the Kaiser's boys in their midst!" Johan was taken roughly and restrained, with some in the crowd crying to "String up the Hun!" Meanwhile, Johan was crying out "Nein! Ich bin ein Amerikaner!" and probably not helping his case very much continuing to speak in German! Finally, the crowd relented, but forced him to get a tattoo of an American bald eagle as proof of his loyalty. Apparently being the son of a Union veteran and having lived in America your entire life doesn't get you the same proof of loyalty that a tattoo of an eagle does! I hope you enjoyed these stories and I look forward to more episodes. Thanks!
Throwing rocks as weapons, see the battle of Gettysburg, Little and Big Round Top, Pork Chop Hill in Korea, dozens of others. Under the right conditions it works well and ammo is plentiful.
As a British motorsport history enthusiast ho has greatly enjoyed this channel since week 1, seeing the name "Benoist" on the side of Jannus' plane makes me surmise that he was part of the squadron of the Armee de l'Air led by Robert Benoist, who, in the '20s and '30s, would become one of the greatest Grand Prix and endurance drivers of the period. He was both European Champion (the closest period equivalent at the time to Formula 1 World Champion) and a winner of the Le Mans 24 Hours, the greatest of all sportscar endurance races. In the Second World War, he was recruited by the SOE to work undercover in France aiding the Resistance, and recruited fellow drivers and former Bugatti teammates Jean-Pierre Wimille (pronounced 'Vimy' as in the ridge) and the enigmatic Englishman William Grover, otherwise known as "Williams" or "W Williams" during his career. Wimille survived WWII only to be killed in a practice accident for a race in Argentine in January 1949, but, sadly, Benoist was known to have been captured by the Gestapo before being executed at Sachsenhausen. Grover's fate was only confirmed in the past few years as postwar KGB files were released which showed that, on entering Sachsenhausen late in the war, the Soviet army found that Grover had been executed there in the spring of 1945. Prior to that discovery, there were rumours that he survived the war, and was employed by our intelligence service to do much the same in the Cold War as he had during WWII; sadly, we now know that this was wishful thinking with no evidence to support it. As far as I know, of the three drivers (whose WWII activities are the subject of the superb volume "The Graand Prix Saboteurs" by motorsport author and journalist Joe Saward) only Benoist played an active part in the Great War, being the eldest.
+Knightmare Gaming i dont get how he does videos like this. Does he like recap what went on in the war with the same dates we're in currently? Because he keeps saying like last month and things like that lol
Well , Romania was crushed because our leaders of that time were a bunch of morons , tricked and fooled by nationalistic ambitions and unrealist expectations of the war. A BLIND MAN COULD HAVE SEEN that Romania had absolutely no chance of fighting on such a huge area! Granted the russians did helped us a lot , I STILL HATE THEM THOUGH! They only did it to save their own asses and interest (just like all the other nations). They took 100 tons of gold from us , and other few tons of artwork and national treasures and never gave them back. By the way , our lost treasure would be a neat subject for Indy and the team , talking about trains filled with gold and treasures disappearing in Russia never to be seen again or more like never to be acknowledged! I would love to see Indy talking about that , he would become some sort of Indiana Jones ! PLEASE do that on Out of the Trenches :D God I love this show!
Yes there are , lot's of them on the internet and in English. I don't know exactly how you guys gather the info on topics but for a brief mention of it i'm sure you will find a lot on the mighty internet :D. Us , sending them ( the russians ) all we had historically valuable just proves how moronic war could get! By the way , the russians said that they cannot find our treasure because apparently the Kremlin is very very big ,apparantly so big that 100 tons of gold and artwork cannot be found! :)
Please, your leaders were almost genius, Romania grew twice it size after the war and if it wasn't for the soviets, the great Romania with her great King would still exist.
I like the new map. it was clear. I was hoping that when the Zimmerman telegram was mentioned, you would also speak of the Mexican Revolution that was happening 1910-1920, The US intervention, and how the Great War impacted and was impacted by those events. But maybe you will give it a side episode?
great !! Indie ,a vid about the winter uniforms shoes or boots and also underwear used and the tips and tricks that came out for keeping warm ...under fire , would be also FUN-tastic
Please do a video about the brigata sassari It was an italian brigade from sardinia that was formed because sardinians were discriminated by the other italian soldiers The brigade fought in some very important battles In the end the brigata sassari was the most highly decorated italian brigade WWI
Harlowe Iasingston helping out? Maybe you should have a look at the previous episodes. They are more a burden to Russia because they have to devote a significant part of their army to saving Romania's butt
@@jesuisbarteljaap404 Kind of idiot comment Romania was attacked by 3 empires and Bulgaria along . They didn't have rifles, machine guns, ammunition and another equipment . A nation of 7 milion faced 15 times bigger enemies. Another moron that have an " expert " opinion... I guess in your opinion the battles lost in 1914 -1916 on Russian front was from Romanian " fault" since they were neutral at that time. By the way after Serbia ,Romania suffered the most casualties in ww1 in %.
OH thank you for mentioning the America volunteers!!! And if I could have one wish please talk about famed flying ace, medal of honor winner, and race car driver, Capt Eddie Rickenbacker! And/or the Lafayette squadron!
I guess that's were cadorna's ideas came from: stopping machine guns with is not far enough, men must also be thrown! What a genius our commander is! He orders all of these battles on the isonzo with only one objective, VICTORY!
Hey Indy and Team, as more than 50 % of the Romanian territory got occupied by the Austro-German troops I really wonder how the situation looked for the civil population. You mentoned, that there were a lot of refugees when Romania got invaded. But I can barely imagine that the whole Romanian population got evacuated. This would have been around 350 thousand people just for Bucharest. So I would really like to know how the occupied population felt (also the population of Serbia and Montenegro). Keep up the good work, I really love your show!
Hello Indy. A question for out of the trenches. I'm curious, we hear about US citizens fighting for the Allies, what about the Central Powers? As you said in the beginning of the war we Americans were very much pro German/Austrian and it changed only at the middle/end of the war. Thank you for the great work discussing history many like to forget in favor of the flashier WW2!
Indy, where do you get your information about the Italian front? We're reading A Farewell to Arms in class right now and I would like to get some more background on that part of the war. Thanks, and I love the show. I just got all caught up last month (started from the beginning a year ago).
Hi -- great episode as always. About the Zimmermann Telegram, I have always figured it would not have done much in reality as the Mexicans were in the middle of a terrible civil war at the time. While some of the Mexican factions did attack into the US, they were pretty badly defeated when the tried. I also find it interesting that the Telegram did not include California and other parts of the West that had been lost by Mexico
Indiana and co., I have two questions for Out of the Trenches that I'd please like you to answer. 1. Why do you think that so much more attention is given to the Western Front when there were many other fronts, and the Eastern Front was arguably bloodier, and more important than the Western Front, seeing as how it played a huge part in causing the Russian Revolution? 2. Do you think that with the 100th anniversary of the US entering the Great War that interest in the Great War will go up?
It's just the point of view of who is telling the history. English speaking countries like the United Kingdom, America and Canada mostly fought on the Western front so if someone is telling you about WW1 in English then that's what they are going to talk about. I'm sure in Russia or Italy or Turkey their historical focus is put on their fronts.
I have a question for out of the trenches: can you explain about how the helmet became widely used in the war and why they swapped from using hats? What influinced the helmet and who first made them? Thanks! Absolutely love the show and keep up the great work
Love the show, it's very helpful and education. However, I have question for the chair of wisdom: From all of the films based off of the first world war, what would you consider to be the most accurate to the reality?
question for out of the trenches. How did Germany track the number of ships they sunk with mines? Seems like that would be hard to do unless they dived down to investigate the immediate area. Thanks and keep up the good work
You mentioned americian volunteers for the allies but were there any volunteers for the central powers from the Americas ( U.S and perhaps Argentina ). I ask this because it's a family story that my great grandfather had a falling out with his parents for not going back to Germany to fight for the Kaiser.
That bit about American aviators got me thinking, do you plan to do a bio on Dale Mabry? He's got so much stuff named after him including a highway he must have been somewhat of a big deal.
6:34. Honestly, I agree. Falkenhayn has always sounded as a rather competent general, ESPECIALLY after Hindenburg's appointment as Chief of Staff. And for some reason, I rlly dislike the Hindenburg-Ludendorff duo, and think Falkenhayn deserves the medal
That rock throwing gesture at 1:59 was fierce.
Tread carefully when Indy has a rock is hand and murder in his eye.
I want Mackensen's hat.
One of the best series on youtube!
+MC Phteven thanks
one. one? ONE? OOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEE???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes.
The best one
rock beats machine gun
Helmet beats rock, and machine gun beats helmet.
remember that, it's useful.
In this rare case.....yes.
People forget rocks ARE deadly weapons.
"the Zimmer telegram would prove Somewhat of a game changer"
Don't you just love it how Indy can make enticing cliffhangers out of something that already happened??
Great episode. And I love how you guys talk about all the fronts during the great war. Most TV programs only talk about the westeren front. But never about Greece Romania or the Italian front. Keep on rocking guys.
+crazzykiphunter we learn something new every week too talking about these fronts.
Best books I know about the Alpine front:
- 'A Year on the High Plateau', by Emilio Lussu (1937, Italian point of view)
- 'Men in War', by Andreas Latzko (1917, Austro-Hungarian point of view)
Both authors were soldiers and fought in many battles. Both books are filled with melancholy and gory details. Have a good reading!
just a note: in italian, names of the masculine gender end in O for the singular and I for the plural. when talking about a single Italian Alpine combatant, the correct form is "Alpino". "Alpini" is the plural.
"""""Neutral""""" Greece.
1/4 neutral
That's some heavy air-quotes you've got there.
Anyone interested in the conflict in the Dolomites should visit the mountain Lagazuoi. The entire thing was one big battlefield littered with tunnels, barracks on the side of cliffs, surrounded by forts.
The top of the mountain is now entirely flat: it used to be an Austrian position, so the Italians dug tunnels right below them, filled them up with dynamite and just blew up the mountaintop. It's quite bewildering to stand there, as if a giant had just cut off the tip with a knife.
One fort next to Lagazuoi was quite interesting, it belonged to the Austrians, but they just left it empty with the lights on. The Italians kept shelling it for years until the end of the war.
The Mexican Verdun. From december 1914 to june 1915, during the civil war phase of mexican revolution, there was a battle at El Ébano in the main oilfield zone of Mexico. Villistas against Carrancistas. There was the longest battle of mexican revolution and was actually a trench battle. Mud, blood and oilspills. Carrancista press called it later the Mexican Verdun. Obviously, taking into account the casualties were less than 10k, the style and tactics of the battle were very exceptional for the standards of mexican revolution. Also, considering that carrancistas won the civil war, for propagandistic purposes, the Verdun comparation was a great achieve for Carranza. Villa's plan to take the decisive oil exports to Europe failed.
Your description of the alpine fighting between Austria and Italy does not mention the extreme relief of the Dolomites, which is due to the dolomite they are made of. The verticality is amazing.
We will talk about that a bit more when we actually go on location.
Another great episode. Czechoslovakia was very strong country in between wars, can't wait for that special episode.
Thanks again!
Love your Show i have a Question for out of The Trenches: What happend to Germans Living in Other countrys for example France. Did they have to leave The Country or were they discriminated ? Keep up The Good work
Forced to leave.
They were interned in the USA as far as they could be.
It seems fairly selective looking at it now, trouble makers (those against the chosen course).
In the new independent Poland (spoiler 😀) Germans were accepted to stay. Many declared themselves Polish, as for more than a 100 years being Polish was more a state of mind rather than a nationality. After demise of Austro-Hungary people living in southern Małopolska, in Lwów, Winnica, Kołomyja etc were free to choose if they wanted to stay and be loyal to Poland and declare themselves Polish or stay loyal being of a different nationality or leave the country. My great-grandfather was one of 3 brothers. He lived in Lwów, one of the brothers lived in Buda and the third in Kraków. All were German. My great-grandfather declared himself as a Polish.His brother from Buda declared himself a German and stayed in Hungary, while third brother from Kraków declared himself as a German and moved to Vienna. I can add that my great-grandfather had not suffered any discrimination because of his ancestry and surname in Poland, was however heavily beaten by gestapo during WW II when he refused to sign a volksdeutch list. My family had to buy him out, he would have been killed by Germans otherwise.
They were allowed to stay. As late as 1945 there were 6 million Germans living in Eastern Europe. They were expelled post war with minor exeptions, like in Transylvania or along the Volga. I remember reading about a small German community in Northern Bulgaria that existed from the middle ages untill 1940 or so. Then the Nazis of all people made them move to prevent race mixing and preserve the Bulgarian Lebensraum. Special exeption was made for two women who were married. All the rest were expelled.
Atanas Arnaudov That's WW2 this is WW1 we're talking about.
I like the new map, the colours and the borders help a lot to understand the situation!
Huge fan of you, continue with the great work
My Italian grandfather fought as an Alpini soldier for nearly 3 years until invalided out as a poison gas victim. He fought at Monte Pasubio and Cimone d'Arsiero on the Trento front.
Thank you for teaching history
I would recommend visiting the alpine front, you can have both great hikes combining great views and history as well. Forts, trenches, dug out tunnels and forts inside mountains, museums filled with weapons and huge sanctuary-cemetery built after the war.
Definitely something we will do.
Thank you for making such an amazing Chanel. And for giving interest in WWI, thanks to you guys WWI has become my favorite part of history. Keep up the great work.
Love your channel!
"I pointed afterwards but it still counts!" Love this show.
Got my posters today! The map of Europe and The 12 rounds on the Izonzo, awesome work guys keep it up!
Awesome!
I read 10,000 men died in avalanches in the Alps on one day in December 1916. it was known as the white death. ( Mark Thompson, The White war. ) Not sure if the avalanches were deliberately triggered by explosives.
This is a great series, especially about lesser known aspects of the war, I hope it continues indefinitely.
Its a miracle that with all the artillery fire and constant battle disruptions there was still rock and snow left to form an avalanche this late into the war. I wouldnt put it past either italy or austria hungary to deliberately cause one to kill the enemy tho. It was the great war after all. Kmowing italys and austrias capabilities on that front, it also wouldnt surprise me that by deliberately triggering avalanches they both killed more of their own men than the enemies men.
This was seriously a great episode. Way to do the leg work; hell of a good ending!
I love this show. Thank you so much for what you guys do.
This is the episode I've always been waiting for!
I'm guessing the Alpini throwing rocks a the Machine Gunners was sitting in a perch above them that they couldn't get their guns onto due to the elevation/angle.
Smart thinking - well done that man!
One of the few truly great things to come out of war: you get to see real ingenuity.
While you mentionned the figthing conditions in the Alps, a focus on what's going on in the Vosges and Alsace would be interesting. This part of the front is always forgotten.
We will generally talk more about mountain warfare in the future.
I can't believe I'm finally caught up! Anyway thank you Indy, Flo, and the gang for the fantastic work you're doing bringing WWI to light. This is a conflict that has been overshadowed in almost every way by its bigger cousin. Looking forward to two and a half more years of the Great War. Keep it up.
Welcome to the front.
I'm going to grant Falkenhayn a posthumous happy smiley face.
Amazing, captivating, informative episode!!. ~ Well, I guess that encapsulates *every* single episode. That shooter pelting making use of rock's'... hahahahaha oh boy!, how times have changed.
They should've learned to keep Germans off the telegraph machine already since Ems 1870.
Stefan T
Well, in 1870 it resulted good for the Germans, or better Prussians
This was one of the cleverest manouvers in history. It mad the French loose their head, declair war first and by doing so united the different German speaking countries to suport Prussia.
tbh it was the must scummy thing done in history or at least recent history at least they fought with honor and resistance, vive la france!
SquirleyIsHere
lol.Still butthurt? Next time, keep a cool head. Plain and simple.
And have no Bonaparts or Bourbons in power..
It's refreshing to hear any positive notes at all about the war.
Talks like its a surprise...Happened 100 years ago
Indiana Neidell and its awesome
And it is good this way, I had no idea of what happened.
That's just good presentation.
Wait this isn't livestream?
akrybion he's lying, this is realtime of course, haven't you seen it on the news?
Indy is such a good presenter of this information, I can't help but jokingly thing think, "I wonder how all this drama is going to turn out!"
Haha, there will be a a few twists along the way for sure.
Been enraptured by this channel for 2 years now. I'm looking forward to more every week.
I agree. I've love the concept of this channel and it is well presented. When this is all done it would make a good DVD, Blue ray collection.
+Captain Logan confirmed
The Great War Great ! I'll buy it ! But will it have subtitles for other languages, or maybe even dub ? It would be awesome
Good episode, watched it twice.
Glad you are alway onboard.
I think Franz von Papen's antics in North America during the war deserve an entire episode if not a whole channel. He was genuinely insane. Please dedicate a segment of Out of the Trenches to him as he played a significant role in post-war Germany
Thank you. I didn't know about it. Because of your comment I read a bit and it is quite interessting and unexpected.
Indeed without maybe Hitler never came go power, he fully underestimated him.
I watch every time I get a notification love the show
Glad you love the show.
2:00 that hand gesture when those damn flies wont leave you alone.
Hey Indy! I have a few stories from both my wife's family and my own that I wanted to share. I hope you find these interesting and possibly they'll show up on an "Out of the Ether" episode.
My wife's family is half Italian, and her grandfather, Santo Rotolo, was originally an Italian army conscript during the Italo-Turkish war. Both he and his brother, Nunzio, saw action during the Libyan campaign and once told his son-my wife's father-that "they had the Arab [bodies] stacked like chord wood". This is all I know of his service there, and I will try to find out more. In 1913, both Santo and Nunzio had been discharged from the military and emigrated to America. Santo had become a carpenter by the time the US entered war, and both he and his brother were drafted. Despite speaking no English, the Rotolo brothers proved old hands when it came to learning drill, which surprised the drill instructors. Sadly, this is about all we know about their service in WWI. The archive that house their service records was destroyed by fire during the seventies and the only thing we have is a citizen certificate of Santo's that says that he earned his American citizenship upon his honorable discharge from the US army. We are proud to say that Santo's son and my father-in-law, Bonaventure, continued in the path of his father, enlisting in the US Army and serving two tours in Viet Nam before being honorably discharged.
On my side of the family, I had several ancestors serve and one died, though not from enemy action. This was Alvie Newman, a cousin from Sagrada, Missouri. He was inducted into the US army on September 20, 1917 and served in Battery C, 130th Field Artiller, 35th Division. Sadly, his story ends shortly thereafter. He was shipped to Camp Doniphan, Oklahoma, which was the main camp of the 35th Division. He contracted pneumonia, and on January 25th, 1918, died of it. He was 24 years old, and his young wife never remarried.
One ancestor that saw action and survived was my great-grandfather, Sgt. Joseph Lapsley Kennedy. He was inducted into the US army in Kansas City, Missouri, on June 1st, 1917 and served in Company H, 3rd Missouri National Guard. This was later combined with other units to form the 140th Infantry Regiment in the 35th Division. As an aside, the 35th "Santa Fe" Division was comprised of units from western Missouri, eastern Kansas, and northeastern Oklahoma. After training at Camp Doniphan, Sgt. Kennedy and the rest of the 140th were shipped out to France on April 25th, 1918. They would take part in the Meuse-Argonne offensive, and would return to the United States a year to the day that they had left. Joe Kennedy would be elected to the Missouri state legislature in the 1920's and father two daughters. One of them was my grandmother, Betty Jo.
My final story is not militaristic in nature, but serves as a window into the general feelings of anti-German sentiment shortly after the United States declared war on Germany. As you mentioned in a previous episode, the German immigrant population was a large one in the Midwest, particularly in central Missouri, along the Missouri River valley. The initial German settlers came during the early 1850's, after the failed revolts of 1848-49 in the German kingdoms. They settled the river valley and it soon became known as the "Missouri Rhineland". Some of these where my ancestors, the Ehlers. They settled in a small town called Cole Camp, and though they fought in the American Civil War on the side of the Union, and became successful farmers, they maintained the old German traditions. One of these was speaking German over English, and this nearly caused the death of my great-great grandfather, Johan Bernhard Ehlers.
Shortly after 1917, there was (spoiler alert!) a great deal of anti-German sentiment, bordering on hysteria. Shortly after the declaration of war, Johan went south to another town to conduct some business there. When he got there, he found the town in an uproar, the declaration of war having come out a day or two beforehand. Because of this, when Johan asked directions in the little broken English that he knew, the crowd immediately turned on him, crying that they had "one of the Kaiser's boys in their midst!" Johan was taken roughly and restrained, with some in the crowd crying to "String up the Hun!" Meanwhile, Johan was crying out "Nein! Ich bin ein Amerikaner!" and probably not helping his case very much continuing to speak in German! Finally, the crowd relented, but forced him to get a tattoo of an American bald eagle as proof of his loyalty. Apparently being the son of a Union veteran and having lived in America your entire life doesn't get you the same proof of loyalty that a tattoo of an eagle does!
I hope you enjoyed these stories and I look forward to more episodes. Thanks!
As a Canadian, I have to say, I'm a little excited for April. Our time to shine is coming!
Throwing rocks as weapons, see the battle of Gettysburg, Little and Big Round Top, Pork Chop Hill in Korea, dozens of others.
Under the right conditions it works well and ammo is plentiful.
Will the Finnish Civil War be covered in regular episodes or just in a special?
+yidgamer regular episodes
Can't wait!
3:31 WAIT WHAT They had electric oscillating fans as far back as 1917?!
Huh.. Thats pretty cool.
Nice eye bro
Lots of brave men!
As a British motorsport history enthusiast ho has greatly enjoyed this channel since week 1, seeing the name "Benoist" on the side of Jannus' plane makes me surmise that he was part of the squadron of the Armee de l'Air led by Robert Benoist, who, in the '20s and '30s, would become one of the greatest Grand Prix and endurance drivers of the period. He was both European Champion (the closest period equivalent at the time to Formula 1 World Champion) and a winner of the Le Mans 24 Hours, the greatest of all sportscar endurance races. In the Second World War, he was recruited by the SOE to work undercover in France aiding the Resistance, and recruited fellow drivers and former Bugatti teammates Jean-Pierre Wimille (pronounced 'Vimy' as in the ridge) and the enigmatic Englishman William Grover, otherwise known as "Williams" or "W Williams" during his career. Wimille survived WWII only to be killed in a practice accident for a race in Argentine in January 1949, but, sadly, Benoist was known to have been captured by the Gestapo before being executed at Sachsenhausen. Grover's fate was only confirmed in the past few years as postwar KGB files were released which showed that, on entering Sachsenhausen late in the war, the Soviet army found that Grover had been executed there in the spring of 1945. Prior to that discovery, there were rumours that he survived the war, and was employed by our intelligence service to do much the same in the Cold War as he had during WWII; sadly, we now know that this was wishful thinking with no evidence to support it. As far as I know, of the three drivers (whose WWII activities are the subject of the superb volume "The Graand Prix Saboteurs" by motorsport author and journalist Joe Saward) only Benoist played an active part in the Great War, being the eldest.
Blast - make that "ho" "who" LOL!
Never stop making videos!
November of next year the war ends
No spoilers! ;)
You had to spoil it for me, didn't you?
Oh well.
+Knightmare Gaming i dont get how he does videos like this. Does he like recap what went on in the war with the same dates we're in currently? Because he keeps saying like last month and things like that lol
Great Job.
Thanks!
Hey I just realised, Indy is american, who was actually on time for the war.
If Zimmermann gets his way Indy will be Mexican
Well , Romania was crushed because our leaders of that time were a bunch of morons , tricked and fooled by nationalistic ambitions and unrealist expectations of the war. A BLIND MAN COULD HAVE SEEN that Romania had absolutely no chance of fighting on such a huge area! Granted the russians did helped us a lot , I STILL HATE THEM THOUGH! They only did it to save their own asses and interest (just like all the other nations). They took 100 tons of gold from us , and other few tons of artwork and national treasures and never gave them back. By the way , our lost treasure would be a neat subject for Indy and the team , talking about trains filled with gold and treasures disappearing in Russia never to be seen again or more like never to be acknowledged! I would love to see Indy talking about that , he would become some sort of Indiana Jones ! PLEASE do that on Out of the Trenches :D God I love this show!
+Geto Dacul are there any English sources on that topic?
Yes there are , lot's of them on the internet and in English. I don't know exactly how you guys gather the info on topics but for a brief mention of it i'm sure you will find a lot on the mighty internet :D. Us , sending them ( the russians ) all we had historically valuable just proves how moronic war could get! By the way , the russians said that they cannot find our treasure because apparently the Kremlin is very very big ,apparantly so big that 100 tons of gold and artwork cannot be found! :)
Please, your leaders were almost genius, Romania grew twice it size after the war and if it wasn't for the soviets, the great Romania with her great King would still exist.
In return, the Romanians sacked Hungary at the end of the war! They aren't any better than the Russians then!
The Great War This is, literally, gold for out of the ether. There is wikipedia article titled: Romanian Treasure
Such great work
Imagine the fighting for control of the summit of Mont Blanc / Monte Bianco had the Italians stayed with the Centrals.
Well done as per usual. Thanks.
This just gets better and better.
I don't mean the war, I mean the channel.
Thanks.
Indy is the perfect guy to present the series and i love the outfit
+trooper600 agreed
you fixed the map! awesome :)
Well, we listen to our fans.
"I pointed afterward,but it still counts"...thanks for the laugh Indy.
That new map is pure Eyegasm!!
0:45
"Should the conflict ever end"
Thanks RUclips, notifying me 40 minutes late
I just got Martin Gilbert's the First World War and it is SOOO interesting, I can see why you guys use it so much and I would recommend it to anyone
I like the new map. it was clear.
I was hoping that when the Zimmerman telegram was mentioned, you would also speak of the Mexican Revolution that was happening 1910-1920, The US intervention, and how the Great War impacted and was impacted by those events.
But maybe you will give it a side episode?
rocks are good at short range indirect fire
great !!
Indie ,a vid about the winter uniforms shoes or boots and also underwear used and the tips and tricks that came out for keeping warm ...under fire , would be also FUN-tastic
It would be.
I really like the new maps. Too bad the previous episodes can not be updated after the fact.
Love the new animations showing the borders of the central power alliance and the triple entante
Please do a video about the brigata sassari
It was an italian brigade from sardinia that was formed because sardinians were discriminated by the other italian soldiers
The brigade fought in some very important battles
In the end the brigata sassari was the most highly decorated italian brigade WWI
Juggernaut Lyl The Austrians called them "demons"
I love your show
Great episode, and on my birthday.
Your content is great! It's very interesting keep it up man! Best of luck for your RUclips channel :)
Thanks.
The new opening map is amazing
Thanks.
Happy to see Romania helping out the Entente.
Harlowe Iasingston helping out? Maybe you should have a look at the previous episodes. They are more a burden to Russia because they have to devote a significant part of their army to saving Romania's butt
Dutch Dude I see you don't speak sarcasm.
Harlowe Iasingston lol😳
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Kind of idiot comment Romania was attacked by 3 empires and Bulgaria along .
They didn't have rifles, machine guns, ammunition and another equipment .
A nation of 7 milion faced 15 times bigger enemies.
Another moron that have an " expert " opinion...
I guess in your opinion the battles lost in 1914 -1916 on Russian front was from Romanian " fault" since they were neutral at that time.
By the way after Serbia ,Romania suffered the most casualties in ww1 in %.
The ROCK thrower also ROLLED boulders down on them....becoming...yes.... the FIRST rock n roller!!
OH thank you for mentioning the America volunteers!!! And if I could have one wish please talk about famed flying ace, medal of honor winner, and race car driver, Capt Eddie Rickenbacker! And/or the Lafayette squadron!
They will get their air time.
I guess that's were cadorna's ideas came from: stopping machine guns with is not far enough, men must also be thrown! What a genius our commander is! He orders all of these battles on the isonzo with only one objective, VICTORY!
Will there be a special episode for the City in Ice in the Marmolada Massif?
Hey Indy and Team,
as more than 50 % of the Romanian territory got occupied by the Austro-German troops I really wonder how the situation looked for the civil population. You mentoned, that there were a lot of refugees when Romania got invaded. But I can barely imagine that the whole Romanian population got evacuated. This would have been around 350 thousand people just for Bucharest. So I would really like to know how the occupied population felt (also the population of Serbia and Montenegro).
Keep up the good work, I really love your show!
You guys should come to the National Great War Museum in Kansas, during the summer
It won't be this summer (we have some other plans) but it's on our list.
notification squad reporting for duty sir!
Hello Indy. A question for out of the trenches. I'm curious, we hear about US citizens fighting for the Allies, what about the Central Powers? As you said in the beginning of the war we Americans were very much pro German/Austrian and it changed only at the middle/end of the war. Thank you for the great work discussing history many like to forget in favor of the flashier WW2!
Indy, where do you get your information about the Italian front? We're reading A Farewell to Arms in class right now and I would like to get some more background on that part of the war.
Thanks, and I love the show. I just got all caught up last month (started from the beginning a year ago).
A good entry into the topic is Mark Thompsons "The White War" even though some Italian fans pointed out that they don't always agree with his numbers.
Hi -- great episode as always.
About the Zimmermann Telegram, I have always figured it would not have done much in reality as the Mexicans were in the middle of a terrible civil war at the time. While some of the Mexican factions did attack into the US, they were pretty badly defeated when the tried.
I also find it interesting that the Telegram did not include California and other parts of the West that had been lost by Mexico
for an episode of WHO DID WHAT, how about Crown Prince Rupprecht and Gen. Sir Herbert Plumer
Today is also the 100th anniversary of the Silvertown disaster, an enormous explosion in London.
Indiana and co., I have two questions for Out of the Trenches that I'd please like you to answer.
1. Why do you think that so much more attention is given to the Western Front when there were many other fronts, and the Eastern Front was arguably bloodier, and more important than the Western Front, seeing as how it played a huge part in causing the Russian Revolution?
2. Do you think that with the 100th anniversary of the US entering the Great War that interest in the Great War will go up?
It's just the point of view of who is telling the history. English speaking countries like the United Kingdom, America and Canada mostly fought on the Western front so if someone is telling you about WW1 in English then that's what they are going to talk about. I'm sure in Russia or Italy or Turkey their historical focus is put on their fronts.
I have a question for out of the trenches: can you explain about how the helmet became widely used in the war and why they swapped from using hats? What influinced the helmet and who first made them? Thanks! Absolutely love the show and keep up the great work
Love the show, it's very helpful and education. However, I have question for the chair of wisdom: From all of the films based off of the first world war, what would you consider to be the most accurate to the reality?
The lost battalion , all quiet on the western front , flyboys
Good video as always :)
Neither side can help themselves from making their own situations worse
Hey guys love the work you are doing I just want to see if you can do a video on the Asian and pacific theatre during the war.
We will have more on them.
The Great War nice keep up with the good work guys!
Will we get a special episode for Bloody April?
Yes, we are planning an episode on Aerial Combat.
love the new map guys
The Alliance overlays are great.
question for out of the trenches. How did Germany track the number of ships they sunk with mines? Seems like that would be hard to do unless they dived down to investigate the immediate area. Thanks and keep up the good work
You mentioned americian volunteers for the allies but were there any volunteers for the central powers from the Americas ( U.S and perhaps Argentina ). I ask this because it's a family story that my great grandfather had a falling out with his parents for not going back to Germany to fight for the Kaiser.
That bit about American aviators got me thinking, do you plan to do a bio on Dale Mabry? He's got so much stuff named after him including a highway he must have been somewhat of a big deal.
looking for a painting used in this series of the hartmannsweilerkopf.. any way to find besides rewatching everything completely?
6:34. Honestly, I agree. Falkenhayn has always sounded as a rather competent general, ESPECIALLY after Hindenburg's appointment as Chief of Staff. And for some reason, I rlly dislike the Hindenburg-Ludendorff duo, and think Falkenhayn deserves the medal