cruelty aside for a sec. isnt that stupidly too. like hurting the baby wud make her stop crying... i mean that confession must be half of what she did I am sure. what kind of monster is this. if only I can just see inside her brain for a minute
Ariel is my step daughter and the sad thing is this bitch got away with everything she did she even tried to abuse Ariels children and the bad thing is now my step daughter Ariel has passed away January of this year and now this piece of crap will never be around Ariel's kids
"I'm missing out on a lot and that's not fair to me." Lady you abused those kids and I'm glad they were taking away. That is one of the most selfish things someone could ever say.
@@demaskus2016 Oh fukk that! The ONLY person that would say something like that is a CHILD ABUSER! Everybody has hormones. I NEVER hurt my babies. My son had colic. I didn't want to hurt him. I wanted to help him! WTF is the matter with you. That woman had 7 kids didn't raise none of them! That wasn't the result of hormones!
Lonnie is my cousin, and Debra is horrible. The fact Debra called cps on Lonnie and Alish is just trying to hurt their feelings. They are the best parents ever. I don’t know understand how Debra can burn a 2 month old baby.
sounds like my aunt literally wishes eath on everyone steals treats everyone like trash insults everyone etc etc. still cries how hard her life is and how people treat her bad for no reason. and shes 'JUST A GOOD PERSON DOING THE RIGHT THING"
So,now,after someone else has put in all the work,listening to her babies cry,and all the rest,she wants to pick them up,and enjoy their love.That’s just horrible.
abusive parents are all the same; my parents did all of the things this woman did to me and my siblings, and more, and now they're desperate to be in our lives because they're lonely and hate each other, but they refuse to apologize or even acknowledge what they did without placing at least some of the blame on us. very much in line with what this woman did.
E H-I Hello 👋 ! I totally agree with you ! Let’s someone else raise her daughters and now wants to reap the benefits ! What an evil low life ! She’s getting old and probably wants her daughters to take care of her financially too ! Disgusting !!! She’s still aggressive and wicked ! She obviously had no where to live and her daughter took her in ! Then she tried to ruin her other daughters relationship to her husband by saying he came on to her ! She is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE ! Imagine calling children services on her daughters just because she couldn’t get her way ! She’s deranged and truly I hope her daughters stay the heck away from her permanently ! PEACE ☮️ 👍👍👍😊😊😊
You know it, kids are your world after you have them I don't have any myself but I have 3 nephews and 1 niece and 2 more on the way so I know what it's like being around them 24/7 cause I lived with my sister to help care for her boys and I havnt seem them in over a month because of something that happened between her husband and my step-dad so it's hard not knowing what they've done since I've seen them last they were 2 and 1 last I seen and now the one is gonna be 2 and the other is 3 I'm so sad but hope to see them soon
@@calebdrake9861 Hi Caleb, I just read the comment here that you wrote last year, about how you haven’t seen your niece and nephews for a long time… Your words showed your pain of missing them, so I REALLY hope, that things have changed for the better since then!! ❤ Hopefully you were able to talk with your sister and her husband and you all were able to fix things and make it all good again! Like in every family, your nephew and niece need family like you too in their lives. Every child should be surrounded by as much people who LOVE them as possible, regardless of whatever ‘grownup-arguments’ there may be! The adults should put their problems aside when it comes to the little ones in the family. (Even if those problems are so big that they can’t be solved (immediately or easily), I hope that in that case the adults are able to ‘take a break from their argument’ and let the kids visit their family members, who love them dearly after all…!) The children are ALWAYS MORE IMPORTANT than ANY (*) argument the grownups might have with each other !! Again: I really hope you are back in your niece’s and nephews’ lives and that you all are doing much better now!! I’d sincerely like to hear from you, because your words (and the pain I felt while reading them) touched me! PS: Don’t worry, my friend, I am not some kind of weird freak: I’m just a kind-hearted woman from the Netherlands, who is not only the proud Mom of a wonderful daughter, but who is also a genuinely empathetic person, whether I know you personally or not 😀) (*) Just to be very clear: Everything I wrote above will of course change, in case the children are unsafe or in any imaginable kind of vulnerable or dangerous position (physically, emotionally and/or mentally)!! Because the SAFETY and WELL-BEING of children are ALWAYS the highest priority!! (And NO, I did NOT get the feeling that something like that was happening in your situation. I wrote this explanation strictly in GENERAL TERMS, making sure I can’t be misunderstood about such things by anyone…)
I hated having to go home after school when I was a kid. My mother abused me both physical and mental abuse. She hated me at birth till I left at age 16 (graduated from HS early). I couldn't do anything right in her eyes. Haven't seen them since 1991, don't know if parents are alive or dead. Don't care either.
GOD bless you. My mom was physically abusive to me and my dad was verbally and emotionally abusive to me up until he passed away the day before my 15th birthday. I forgave them both but I did not like my dad, he was a great financial provider but a jerk of a person.
Exactly having kids can be stressful but if she knew she had issues she shouldn’t of had them or she should’ve had six more after the first one got taken away
I have several diagnosed mental disorders and had severe postpartum depression and psychosis and not once did I hurt my baby or want to. There’s simply no excuse. Some people are just evil.
I'm the same way as Steve, I worry about if I yelled to harshly at my kid when they get in trouble, so to hear some of the horrific things these moms to do their kids just irks my nerves
Had 7 kids taken away but can't take responsibility for any of it. Why did she keep having kids? She is an awful person she isn't a mother at all. If it were me I'd never see her again.
Exactly. Although not abusive, I heard about a woman who had 4 kids. She wanted a boy and a girl. But because she only had boys, she kept having more. She said "I'm not going to stop having kids until I have a girl" the world is crazy
Man you cannot blame being young...you may be young but that's just dumb.This woman does not deserve these kids. Makes me sick. Then she says it's not fair she cannot see a grandkid ummm NO what is wrong with her!!
@@drakashrakenburgproduction5369 that's why kids play the ‘the floor is lava’ game. We understand what hot is. And we understand that being burned is not fun or okay. It's possible she could have been suffering from postpartum, but this is still horrific.
I remember watching this episode a while ago and rewatching it now I still can’t get over how terrible of a person this lady is. Then to have the nerve to call CPS on her own kids that she admittedly abused is just adding insult to injury. What a disgusting piece of work.
Ariel is my step daughter I was married to her biological father this piece of garbage of an egg donor my daughter Ariel even tried giving her a chance to be in her kids lives she tried to put her hands on my grand babies I was gonna beat the life out of her
You tossed your newborn baby out into the snow and then burn her, and then you want to whine then it's not fair to you that you don't get to see any of them? If it was up to me I wouldn't let you run anybody's kids especially your own
damn, that mom really wants a second chance and to see her grandkid after she brutally abused her 3 year old child thinking it’s, “unfair” even though her daughter couldn’t have a somewhat ok mom. and yet she still insults her daughter.
She’s a piece of shit mom , she abused her kids then went on to say she deserves to know her grand kids because it’s not “fair” if she can’t meanwhile she still yelling at them on stage and Steve then making up a story about her daughter’s husband. That bitch has a lot of nerve . She’s not obligated to be in their lives at all she don’t deserve shit .
I’m holding my two month old sobbing at this video. I’ve gone through so much as a child, and there’s no way in hell I could ever do anything to purposely hurt my baby. There’s a special place in hell for ‘mothers’ like her. This is heartbreaking.
My dad sexually assaulted me when I was 12 years old. He would also beat the shit out of me and lock me in my room with little to no food or water. I ran away at 16 and never looked back. Now I have two kids of my own and I don’t let them see him at all. Sadly my mother fell victim to Alzheimer’s and can no longer see my kids by herself. As a result she doesn’t see them either. This story taught me that I’m not alone in the excessive abuse category….
❤❤❤ I hope you’re doing well! Even though you wrote your comment a year ago, I just saw it and it touched me so much that I decided to write this response… I 100% understand your choice to keep your kids away from your abuser!! I’m sorry about your Mom and why she (also understandably) can’t see the kids anymore. I immediately started breaking my brain about trying to think of a solution where she would still be able to see them, but I can only come up with: Somebody neutral, (so someone other than your dad), escorting your Mom to a certain meeting point, where you and your kids will be able to enjoy each other’s company and then bringing her back home after the visit. …And I am convinced that you have already thought about that option (and found that that isn’t a possibility for whatever reason there may be). Plus…this is also very dependable of how much the dementia is affecting your Mom in her current state, since people with advanced dementia are likely to become very disoriented, confused and possibly even scared, when they are not in their own, regular surrounding/home… You see: I’m really thinking about this and it makes me wish I could give you some kind of magical solution…but unfortunately I can’t. So I will just send you my best wishes and hope that you and your kids will have a wonderful, carefree, healthy and happy life!! ❤ from just a regular Mom from the Netherlands! (PS: Both my parents had dementia. They both have passed away several years ago. My brother, who was 5 yr older than me, sexually abused me from when I was 9 until I was 14 yr old and he was NEVER allowed to be alone with my daughter (who is now 26 yr old and doing great)….. So you can see why I felt some connection and recognition when I read your comment….)
As someone who has survived every type of abuse there is I can say that even though they apologize for what they have done they can not expect to their victims to just forgive and forget about the abuse they did, I have forgiven everyone but there is no way in Hell I will just forget and let them be part of my life and act like they didn't do anything. I forgave my mom for poisoning me and keeping me sick, breaking my jaw because I forgot to break out ice and make tea, but I kept her at a distance, im glad I forgave her and made peace because she was murdered by my step dad 6 months after we started talking again. I am a Survivor not a Victim, I survived and so will you, don't let them win pick yourself up and show them they haven't won. Stay strong and persevere, you got this....
Wow some mother she was indeed ! Also a story and accusations about a husband and a mother in law just sounds disturbing . I don’t think Debra was ever ready to be a mother since she was doing all of that shit to her daughters . Well she was definitely not getting any mother of the year awards . Stress is one thing but what she did to her daughters all those years ago was never necessary .
I wish I could hug my parents but they are predators and I've been strong enough to not allow them to go against my boundaries for the past nearly 2 years. No Contact is beautiful and blissful.
I'm so happy that her husband turned out to be a good guy........Steve talking about being worried about maybe yelling at his kids too much...lol....if Steve were my dad, I'd be the best kid in the world! Wouldn't want him hurling a chair at me!!
2:41 "If you love your mom you should help her, and understand she's really sorry and she deserves a second chance " Text book manipulation Also, who says you, the perpetrator gets to decide when and if you deserve anything from your victim.
The only thing that I am happy about with this espoide is that Debra 's son in law passed his test but everything else disguised me. How could Debra burn her children? It is bad when someone who is not a family member do something wrong to someone but it is heartbreaking when a family member hurts another family member.
I'm dead on the inside. I wouldn't waste tears on this monster. I would live my life and stay away from her. I been abused myself. So I know once you heal there'd be no more tears. Focus on joy and those who love you. Because not everyone has not even one person who loves them and cares about them.
As a mom I could NEVER imagine hurting my baby like that. I get stressed out, I’m a 22 year old mom to an infant but I never lose my temper enough to hurt him
The fact that this horrible excuse for a mother literally admitted to intentionally burning her daughter in the intro, then changed her story and said it wasn't intentional is just disgusting. She's so manipulative and horrible.
I'll never understand how someone cant get so frustrated and annoyed at a baby's nonstop crying thet they think abusing them is going to help when they would just then cry out in severe pain amd terror. I dont understand that at all...
"And that's not fair to me" Lady, you missing out on your grandkids is ABSOLUTELY what you deserve. Why should anyone risk the lives of their children around a woman who was abusive to her own? I realize people can change with time (regardless that some say they don't) but, NO ONE should risk their own kids just to see.
One isn't forgiving, to help person who did something to them but for they selves so they can heal. I held onto what my parents did for the longest time, then once I forgave it was a weight off my shoulders
No charges brought up against that POS MOM!!! Seriously that’s a shame!! No state is protecting the innocent any longer!!! What happened to: “SERVE & PROTECT” & the “JUSTICE SYSTEM???”
Am a mother for two beautiful girls I could not imagine to do anything to them even if they misbehaved I love them to death to hurt them. She is a monster to a mother.
It never ceases to amaze me when people can really say “I wanted my infant to stop crying so I caused them immeasurable pain.” This lady is a psychopath. She’s lucky she didn’t kill them as babies, then she really came back and caused intentional drama in their adult relationships.
My paternal grandmother was this cruel to me when I was little (3-4) jealousy of my mom because she was very pretty. I never forgot. As a result...i didnt go to her funeral.
Wow!!! My mother was just like this lady, why the hell did she call the show? My mom would never admit what she did to me or my brother..... What I would give to get her on this show to know for sure everything she did to the memories we do not remember due to being babies and under the age of 2..... These types of mothers do NOT ever deserve there children's time... Great you confessed hope you feel better because as a child it is a hole in our hearts and left with hurt
Hell, if I caught someone trying to burn my child (ren) I will do more than life in prison I would make sure that the coward has a permanent stay with me in my cell. I will make that person's stay in prison a living hell and nightmare, after I am done they're going to wish I was the devil.
My parents had an argument, and my dad just left the house, and as he was pulling out of the driveway, he saw the front door open, and he saw my mother, throw me into 3 feet deep snow, when I was 3 MONTHS OLD. My dad confessed that at that moment, the though of killing my mother. He didn't, and didnt harm her of course, but still.
They remind me so much of me and my sister. Especially when she's holding and comforting her little sister . It just makes me think of my big sister always protecting me 😭
Honestly where is the father? That’s always the $100,000,000 question. And where are the other five kids at? There are so many questions that are unanswered. Honestly I hope these sisters chose to never see their mother again and live a life of ultimate happiness, and also that the mother goes to prison for what she did
When my son was a couple months old, my ring scratched his leg while I was changing his diaper. I cried, he didn't. He's 14 and still has a tiny scar. I still tear up thinking about how I MAIMED my baby. I don't understand how mothers can be like this. May this monster get every ounce of karma she deserves.
That women needs to go to jail for abuse her children why did she do that for what reason this is unexceptable nobody should have to go through this abuse and abuse is not allowed its against the law
So did their town ever build that statue of her that says “WORST MOTHER EVER” on it? I would love to see that statue, and a video of people throwing tomatoes and eggs at said statue.
DÂMŃ! I could hear Rachelle in the background yelling!! I was afraid she was going to come out from behind that podium and smack the 💩 outta that mom!!!!
😢 I wish I could hug my dad - he passed away a few months ago! Steve Wilkos reminds me of him - he takes a stand for what's right and fair like my dad - thank you Steve
7:41 She accused her daughter's man of inappropriate behavior towards her, but when steve is reading the questions, she is shaking her head no. Seen it on this show many times, sure sign her accusations are false.
Her mom reminds me of my mother, mine is narcissistic and toxic. Always tried to flirt with my partners (exes, anyone that I had love interest in) her excuses for how she treated me and abused me was because I OWED her for being my mother. The same woman that would never buy groceries but would buy beer. I went to school asking my teachers for supplies. I wore the same clothes because I never had quarters to do my laundry. I would skip the bus just to walk across town to my grandmas house because I didn’t want to go home to my mom. Even now, I’ve had to kick her out my house. Bc she still believes I owe her….
What I miss in these comments is the simple (but sometimes completely overlooked) advice TO GET HELP WHEN YOU FEEL OVERWHELMED BY YOUR CHILD(REN)…!! Go to a neighbor, call a friend or family member, CALL 911 IF YOU NEED TO…..!! There IS help, so there is never ever an excuse to take your own frustration out on a child!!! GET. HELP. Simple!
If her daughters know what's good for them and their children they will never speak to their mother or allow her anywhere near them ever again. They should change address and never let her find out where they live or work. They should cease all contact with her and never let her have any photos or information about them, ever.
7:28 Isn't it wonderful how the sister is acting protective towards her sister, cradling her head and holding her, despite having a biological 'mother' without a protective fibre in her body. I guess the foster/adoptive mother must have taught her to be a good mother.
“I wanted her to be quiet, so I burned her”
This sentence alone should be enough to lock her up
cruelty aside for a sec. isnt that stupidly too. like hurting the baby wud make her stop crying... i mean that confession must be half of what she did I am sure. what kind of monster is this. if only I can just see inside her brain for a minute
Why the HELL isn’t she locked up? She is awful.
Yup!!!!!
As if crying more wouldnt be the reaction pos parents
Ariel is my step daughter and the sad thing is this bitch got away with everything she did she even tried to abuse Ariels children and the bad thing is now my step daughter Ariel has passed away January of this year and now this piece of crap will never be around Ariel's kids
"I'm missing out on a lot and that's not fair to me." Lady you abused those kids and I'm glad they were taking away. That is one of the most selfish things someone could ever say.
Exactly
Righttttttt!!!!!!!
Exactly. Trash
@@amandalidey329 Rightttttt!!!!!
I have no sympathy for that woman
She thinks it isn’t fair that she can’t know her grandkid?? “Fair” would be to never see her kids or grandkids again.
@Debbie Kerekes Amen to that. ✌🏾✌🏾 She doesn't deserve the privilege.
Then has the nerve to call CPS on her own daughter! The irony is shocking!
@@Naturefan354 you’re right, that woman is beyond dangerous.
For real! Fair would be a restraining order and protection order in place.
@@johnathanpatrick6118 Rightttttt!!!!!
If You Can’t Take It Wen A Baby Cries….Don’t Have Kids Then.
Hormones can make ppl can't handle the sound of a crying baby
Right?! Then she went and had 6 more. People are so stupid
@@demaskus2016 Oh fukk that! The ONLY person that would say something like that is a CHILD ABUSER! Everybody has hormones. I NEVER hurt my babies. My son had colic. I didn't want to hurt him. I wanted to help him! WTF is the matter with you. That woman had 7 kids didn't raise none of them! That wasn't the result of hormones!
If she couldn't handle a baby crying then she shouldn't of had 6 more
@@demaskus2016 hormones?! Hormones makes u burn your baby? Throw them in the snow?? Just excuses to me
The girl sobbing into her sister's arms had me crying too. Debra caused a lifetime of pain and is still talking about how HER life is unfair.. smh
Exactly, that is so true
She is a piece of GARBAGE. I hope the daughters disowned her for good. She is a terrible mother and a terrible person.
Lonnie is my cousin, and Debra is horrible. The fact Debra called cps on Lonnie and Alish is just trying to hurt their feelings. They are the best parents ever. I don’t know understand how Debra can burn a 2 month old baby.
sounds like my aunt literally wishes eath on everyone steals treats everyone like trash insults everyone etc etc.
still cries how hard her life is and how people treat her bad for no reason.
and shes 'JUST A GOOD PERSON DOING THE RIGHT THING"
She is a plain narcopath. Toxic as hell. Daughters need to cut it off their lives for ever.
So,now,after someone else has put in all the work,listening to her babies cry,and all the rest,she wants to pick them up,and enjoy their love.That’s just horrible.
abusive parents are all the same; my parents did all of the things this woman did to me and my siblings, and more, and now they're desperate to be in our lives because they're lonely and hate each other, but they refuse to apologize or even acknowledge what they did without placing at least some of the blame on us. very much in line with what this woman did.
@@SloppyxJoe yes what is wrong with parents who choose everything else but their children?! Smh
E H-I Hello 👋 ! I totally agree with you ! Let’s someone else raise her daughters and now wants to reap the benefits ! What an evil low life ! She’s getting old and probably wants her daughters to take care of her financially too ! Disgusting !!! She’s still aggressive and wicked ! She obviously had no where to live and her daughter took her in ! Then she tried to ruin her other daughters relationship to her husband by saying he came on to her ! She is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE ! Imagine calling children services on her daughters just because she couldn’t get her way ! She’s deranged and truly I hope her daughters stay the heck away from her permanently !
PEACE ☮️ 👍👍👍😊😊😊
Where were the girl's father and why didn't he take the kids as opposed to letting them go to foster care?
I do believe that bloke conned her. He makes my skin crawl
"if I saw somebody burn my child, I'd be in jail for the rest of my life." Amen
You know it, kids are your world after you have them I don't have any myself but I have 3 nephews and 1 niece and 2 more on the way so I know what it's like being around them 24/7 cause I lived with my sister to help care for her boys and I havnt seem them in over a month because of something that happened between her husband and my step-dad so it's hard not knowing what they've done since I've seen them last they were 2 and 1 last I seen and now the one is gonna be 2 and the other is 3 I'm so sad but hope to see them soon
Same here I have a child
Any good parent would say that and do that.
@@calebdrake9861 Hi Caleb,
I just read the comment here that you wrote last year, about how you haven’t seen your niece and nephews for a long time…
Your words showed your pain of missing them, so I REALLY hope, that things have changed for the better since then!! ❤
Hopefully you were able to talk with your sister and her husband and you all were able to fix things and make it all good again!
Like in every family, your nephew and niece need family like you too in their lives.
Every child should be surrounded by as much people who LOVE them as possible, regardless of whatever ‘grownup-arguments’ there may be!
The adults should put their problems aside when it comes to the little ones in the family.
(Even if those problems are so big that they can’t be solved (immediately or easily), I hope that in that case the adults are able to ‘take a break from their argument’ and let the kids visit their family members, who love them dearly after all…!)
The children are ALWAYS MORE IMPORTANT than ANY (*) argument the grownups might have with each other !!
Again: I really hope you are back in your niece’s and nephews’ lives and that you all are doing much better now!!
I’d sincerely like to hear from you, because your words (and the pain I felt while reading them) touched me!
PS:
Don’t worry, my friend, I am not some kind of weird freak:
I’m just a kind-hearted woman from the Netherlands, who is not only the proud Mom of a wonderful daughter, but who is also a genuinely empathetic person, whether I know you personally or not 😀)
(*) Just to be very clear:
Everything I wrote above will of course change, in case the children are unsafe or in any imaginable kind of vulnerable or dangerous position (physically, emotionally and/or mentally)!!
Because the SAFETY and WELL-BEING of children are ALWAYS the highest priority!!
(And NO, I did NOT get the feeling that something like that was happening in your situation.
I wrote this explanation strictly in GENERAL TERMS, making sure I can’t be misunderstood about such things by anyone…)
I hated having to go home after school when I was a kid. My mother abused me both physical and mental abuse. She hated me at birth till I left at age 16 (graduated from HS early). I couldn't do anything right in her eyes. Haven't seen them since 1991, don't know if parents are alive or dead. Don't care either.
Sorry Oscar, you could be an inspiration, what a great accomplishment to graduate at all much less early going through that.
GOD bless you. My mom was physically abusive to me and my dad was verbally and emotionally abusive to me up until he passed away the day before my 15th birthday. I forgave them both but I did not like my dad, he was a great financial provider but a jerk of a person.
Sending mum love to all of you ❤
I u have to much hate in your heart.
@@noramunozqq5576 We cannot tell a person how to grieve.
The son-in-law is such a good man. Holding his wife, comforting her, being there. The mom, sadly, can’t say the same.
Um , he’s cheated on her before. Mom didn’t touch him .
@Ben Reder Right.
@@emh8861 he passed the lie detector test ? How did he cheat of eh passed
@@emh8861 clearly you didn't finish the episode. Both you AND STEVE were wrong about him.
@ariel Barnes I agree. He was very supportive. Love to see it 👏🏾👏🏾
Hormones, being young, depression, I don’t care!!!!! No excuses for harming a baby or child!
Exactly having kids can be stressful but if she knew she had issues she shouldn’t of had them or she should’ve had six more after the first one got taken away
@@fayezzzz Rightttttt!!!!
I have several diagnosed mental disorders and had severe postpartum depression and psychosis and not once did I hurt my baby or want to. There’s simply no excuse. Some people are just evil.
@@CaraStrong13 right
@@fayezzzz right
I'm the same way as Steve, I worry about if I yelled to harshly at my kid when they get in trouble, so to hear some of the horrific things these moms to do their kids just irks my nerves
Had 7 kids taken away but can't take responsibility for any of it. Why did she keep having kids? She is an awful person she isn't a mother at all. If it were me I'd never see her again.
Rightttttt!!!!!!! I don't even have kids yet, but I would never do my kids the way that their "so called mother" did them.
Exactly. Although not abusive, I heard about a woman who had 4 kids. She wanted a boy and a girl. But because she only had boys, she kept having more. She said "I'm not going to stop having kids until I have a girl" the world is crazy
I just want to hug these two ladies I know what the pain of abuse feels like, I was abused by my own father from the age of 7 until I was 17.
Same here my dad abuse me and my sister
He’s a disgusting individual..hope you’ve come out the other side ok x
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💛
Sorry you went through that, no child ever should.
I’m sorry for what happened to you. I hope you had recovered from that situation
Steve is completely taking over this mess here.. you can't over argue with Steve.. you can't debate.. you can't change results.. and we love it
Exactly thx well said.
Steve for President!
@@drakashrakenburgproduction5369 Righttttt!!!!
Man you cannot blame being young...you may be young but that's just dumb.This woman does not deserve these kids. Makes me sick. Then she says it's not fair she cannot see a grandkid ummm NO what is wrong with her!!
Shit, even at five we know burning someone is not cool.
@@drakashrakenburgproduction5369 so true cannot stand people like this.
I'm young. Had my daughter after high-school and I NEVER attempted or thought of doing such things to my baby, whether I was frustrated or not
@@drakashrakenburgproduction5369 that's why kids play the ‘the floor is lava’ game. We understand what hot is. And we understand that being burned is not fun or okay. It's possible she could have been suffering from postpartum, but this is still horrific.
Narcissist and dangerous for her to be in public at all
I remember watching this episode a while ago and rewatching it now I still can’t get over how terrible of a person this lady is. Then to have the nerve to call CPS on her own kids that she admittedly abused is just adding insult to injury. What a disgusting piece of work.
She is disgusting and can’t stop abusing them.
Ariel is my step daughter I was married to her biological father this piece of garbage of an egg donor my daughter Ariel even tried giving her a chance to be in her kids lives she tried to put her hands on my grand babies I was gonna beat the life out of her
Her: Wants baby to stop crying
*burns baby with lighter*
Her: “why are you still crying??”
You tossed your newborn baby out into the snow and then burn her, and then you want to whine then it's not fair to you that you don't get to see any of them? If it was up to me I wouldn't let you run anybody's kids especially your own
damn, that mom really wants a second chance and to see her grandkid after she brutally abused her 3 year old child thinking it’s, “unfair” even though her daughter couldn’t have a somewhat ok mom. and yet she still insults her daughter.
She’s a piece of shit mom , she abused her kids then went on to say she deserves to know her grand kids because it’s not “fair” if she can’t meanwhile she still yelling at them on stage and Steve then making up a story about her daughter’s husband. That bitch has a lot of nerve . She’s not obligated to be in their lives at all she don’t deserve shit .
Don’t have kids if u won’t give the kid the best u have. Little kids, babies, don’t deserve that crap.
I’m holding my two month old sobbing at this video. I’ve gone through so much as a child, and there’s no way in hell I could ever do anything to purposely hurt my baby. There’s a special place in hell for ‘mothers’ like her. This is heartbreaking.
yess....right beside my "Mother" !! She`s waiting 4 company in HELL !!
Right . Being abused should make ppl even more protective of their own but it does the opposite a lot of the time
That poor baby girl. So thankful her mom didn't actually ruin her daughter's relationship on top of everything else.
Evil.
But she tried to. So that would be 'it' for her. U can't keep people like that in your life.
@@Angelofloveandhappiness I agree. I cut my mom out for way less! I'm just thankful her mom didn't ruin the good thing she had going!
My dad sexually assaulted me when I was 12 years old. He would also beat the shit out of me and lock me in my room with little to no food or water. I ran away at 16 and never looked back. Now I have two kids of my own and I don’t let them see him at all. Sadly my mother fell victim to Alzheimer’s and can no longer see my kids by herself. As a result she doesn’t see them either. This story taught me that I’m not alone in the excessive abuse category….
❤❤❤ I hope you’re doing well!
Even though you wrote your comment a year ago, I just saw it and it touched me so much that I decided to write this response…
I 100% understand your choice to keep your kids away from your abuser!!
I’m sorry about your Mom and why she (also understandably) can’t see the kids anymore.
I immediately started breaking my brain about trying to think of a solution where she would still be able to see them, but I can only come up with:
Somebody neutral, (so someone other than your dad), escorting your Mom to a certain meeting point, where you and your kids will be able to enjoy each other’s company and then bringing her back home after the visit.
…And I am convinced that you have already thought about that option (and found that that isn’t a possibility for whatever reason there may be).
Plus…this is also very dependable of how much the dementia is affecting your Mom in her current state, since people with advanced dementia are likely to become very disoriented, confused and possibly even scared, when they are not in their own, regular surrounding/home…
You see: I’m really thinking about this and it makes me wish I could give you some kind of magical solution…but unfortunately I can’t.
So I will just send you my best wishes and hope that you and your kids will have a wonderful, carefree, healthy and happy life!!
❤ from just a regular Mom from the Netherlands!
(PS: Both my parents had dementia. They both have passed away several years ago.
My brother, who was 5 yr older than me, sexually abused me from when I was 9 until I was 14 yr old and he was NEVER allowed to be alone with my daughter (who is now 26 yr old and doing great)…..
So you can see why I felt some connection and recognition when I read your comment….)
As someone who has survived every type of abuse there is I can say that even though they apologize for what they have done they can not expect to their victims to just forgive and forget about the abuse they did, I have forgiven everyone but there is no way in Hell I will just forget and let them be part of my life and act like they didn't do anything. I forgave my mom for poisoning me and keeping me sick, breaking my jaw because I forgot to break out ice and make tea, but I kept her at a distance, im glad I forgave her and made peace because she was murdered by my step dad 6 months after we started talking again. I am a Survivor not a Victim, I survived and so will you, don't let them win pick yourself up and show them they haven't won. Stay strong and persevere, you got this....
Angie Mitchell sorry that your mum has been murdered by your step Dad
Yes we are SURVIORS NOT VICTIMS
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Wow some mother she was indeed ! Also a story and accusations about a husband and a mother in law just sounds disturbing . I don’t think Debra was ever ready to be a mother since she was doing all of that shit to her daughters . Well she was definitely not getting any mother of the year awards . Stress is one thing but what she did to her daughters all those years ago was never necessary .
Jayleen, I agree with you.
"I deserve a second chance!"
Uh, no, you sure the hell do not.
Do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
What a piece of work...
I wish I could hug my parents but they are predators and I've been strong enough to not allow them to go against my boundaries for the past nearly 2 years. No Contact is beautiful and blissful.
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I'm so happy that her husband turned out to be a good guy........Steve talking about being worried about maybe yelling at his kids too much...lol....if Steve were my dad, I'd be the best kid in the world! Wouldn't want him hurling a chair at me!!
the mom looks like she flies a broom and her daughters are really pretty. it's sad that there are people out there like this "mother".
Maybe they look like the dads side of the family 😂
Shes the wicked witch of the east bro
After watching this I gave my dad his morning coffee and a big hug 🫂🤗🥰cause he is the greatest dad ever 🥰🥰🥰☺️
Omg.. Hopefully everyone is ok after the show 😭
Well…ALMOST everyone
2:41 "If you love your mom you should help her, and understand she's really sorry and she deserves a second chance "
Text book manipulation
Also, who says you, the perpetrator gets to decide when and if you deserve anything from your victim.
The only thing that I am happy about with this espoide is that Debra 's son in law passed his test but everything else disguised me. How could Debra burn her children? It is bad when someone who is not a family member do something wrong to someone but it is heartbreaking when a family member hurts another family member.
I'm dead on the inside. I wouldn't waste tears on this monster. I would live my life and stay away from her. I been abused myself. So I know once you heal there'd be no more tears. Focus on joy and those who love you. Because not everyone has not even one person who loves them and cares about them.
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I'm glad she has a wonderful husband.
As a mom I could NEVER imagine hurting my baby like that. I get stressed out, I’m a 22 year old mom to an infant but I never lose my temper enough to hurt him
She doesnt deserve to call herself a mother ,, shes evil !!!
How is her not seeing her grandchild not fair to her? What's not fair is putting your children through what you put them through.
The fact that this horrible excuse for a mother literally admitted to intentionally burning her daughter in the intro, then changed her story and said it wasn't intentional is just disgusting. She's so manipulative and horrible.
I'll never understand how someone cant get so frustrated and annoyed at a baby's nonstop crying thet they think abusing them is going to help when they would just then cry out in severe pain amd terror. I dont understand that at all...
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I can't handle babies crying either. I don't react to said crying with violence to the child.
"And that's not fair to me" Lady, you missing out on your grandkids is ABSOLUTELY what you deserve. Why should anyone risk the lives of their children around a woman who was abusive to her own? I realize people can change with time (regardless that some say they don't) but, NO ONE should risk their own kids just to see.
I had postpartum depression/anxiety and i never once thought about abusing my babies.
She don’t deserve their forgiveness. She don’t deserve to be in grandchild’s life. You can’t trust her nor her actions.
One isn't forgiving, to help person who did something to them but for they selves so they can heal. I held onto what my parents did for the longest time, then once I forgave it was a weight off my shoulders
One of the saddest episodes I've ever seen. As a parent, I would rather be thrown in a fire than burn my baby girl. She needs to be in prison.
No charges brought up against that POS MOM!!!
Seriously that’s a shame!!
No state is protecting the innocent any longer!!!
What happened to:
“SERVE & PROTECT” & the “JUSTICE SYSTEM???”
Am a mother for two beautiful girls I could not imagine to do anything to them even if they misbehaved I love them to death to hurt them. She is a monster to a mother.
She is not a mother. She doesn't deserve to be called a mother.
I've been thru a traumatic past and I would never do that to my child
It never ceases to amaze me when people can really say “I wanted my infant to stop crying so I caused them immeasurable pain.”
This lady is a psychopath. She’s lucky she didn’t kill them as babies, then she really came back and caused intentional drama in their adult relationships.
If I threw the chair I wouldn't miss
My paternal grandmother was this cruel to me when I was little (3-4) jealousy of my mom because she was very pretty. I never forgot. As a result...i didnt go to her funeral.
7:05 Lonnie's lie detector test results
7:59 Debra confesses to abuse
This abusive woman is upset because she can't be in her grandchild's life and ITS NOT FAIR????????
"WAAAAHH! It's not fair!"😫 Seriously?! She needs to go cry a river because *nobody* wants to hear that noise after what she did to her children!😠
You wanna be a grandparent, be a decent parent FIRST.
This is a truly heartbreaking story 💔😥
Wow!!! My mother was just like this lady, why the hell did she call the show? My mom would never admit what she did to me or my brother..... What I would give to get her on this show to know for sure everything she did to the memories we do not remember due to being babies and under the age of 2..... These types of mothers do NOT ever deserve there children's time... Great you confessed hope you feel better because as a child it is a hole in our hearts and left with hurt
2:41 this is the most narcissistic thing ever
All she cares about is “me me me me me”
Hell, if I caught someone trying to burn my child (ren) I will do more than life in prison I would make sure that the coward has a permanent stay with me in my cell. I will make that person's stay in prison a living hell and nightmare, after I am done they're going to wish I was the devil.
Preach it preach it
If someone tried to that to my kid I would put them in a trap so dangerous they would think I was jigsaw
Her daughter is incredibly beautiful, oh my god.
Yes she is. Most took after her dad's side
This mom is going about everything the wrong way. Yelling and arguing with your daughter to get back in her life. Makes sense..?. This lady is crazy.
And there's people out there wanting children... MAKES. ME. SICK.
My parents had an argument, and my dad just left the house, and as he was pulling out of the driveway, he saw the front door open, and he saw my mother, throw me into 3 feet deep snow, when I was 3 MONTHS OLD. My dad confessed that at that moment, the though of killing my mother. He didn't, and didnt harm her of course, but still.
They remind me so much of me and my sister. Especially when she's holding and comforting her little sister . It just makes me think of my big sister always protecting me 😭
Honestly where is the father? That’s always the $100,000,000 question. And where are the other five kids at? There are so many questions that are unanswered. Honestly I hope these sisters chose to never see their mother again and live a life of ultimate happiness, and also that the mother goes to prison for what she did
Daughter looks like Kirsten Dunst
I agree with you! I did a double-take when I first seen her.
A prime example of someone that should never have children! Ever!
True words,indeed.
"If I ever saw someone burn my child with a lighter I'd be in jail the rest of my life" amen Steve amen
Watching your own kids is not "babysitting"
True!
The narcissism is strong in that one.
This woman’s whole entire life can be summed up at 2:00
“That’s not fair to ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME”
When my son was a couple months old, my ring scratched his leg while I was changing his diaper. I cried, he didn't. He's 14 and still has a tiny scar. I still tear up thinking about how I MAIMED my baby. I don't understand how mothers can be like this. May this monster get every ounce of karma she deserves.
That women needs to go to jail for abuse her children why did she do that for what reason this is unexceptable nobody should have to go through this abuse and abuse is not allowed its against the law
Im so sorry for her. Your mom should be your rock.
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So did their town ever build that statue of her that says “WORST MOTHER EVER” on it? I would love to see that statue, and a video of people throwing tomatoes and eggs at said statue.
This is a serious thing tht needs to be watched and learned from
She had the nerve to say I can't see my grandkid and that's not fair to me!!! WTH do these women think you "carrying a child" doesn't mean anything!!!
I love it when ppl cry and stoo crying every other word and never shed a single tear..
Now she takes motherhood to an entirely new low😢
Keen to see the end of this
Ok this was one of the best ones GO STEEEEEEEVEEEE
If you love ur kids, u wouldn’t abuse em.
09:00 Man! I feel u Steve!😊
Really right there the keyword you had seven kids that's where you messed up
I hate the way the husband was treated at his arrival on the stage.
DÂMŃ! I could hear Rachelle in the background yelling!! I was afraid she was going to come out from behind that podium and smack the 💩 outta that mom!!!!
😢 I wish I could hug my dad - he passed away a few months ago! Steve Wilkos reminds me of him - he takes a stand for what's right and fair like my dad - thank you Steve
I wish so much I could hug my mom. 😥
7:41 She accused her daughter's man of inappropriate behavior towards her, but when steve is reading the questions, she is shaking her head no. Seen it on this show many times, sure sign her accusations are false.
If you fail at raising your children, nothing else you'll ever do matters much.
Being young is no excuse for abusing and neglecting a child.
Her mom reminds me of my mother, mine is narcissistic and toxic. Always tried to flirt with my partners (exes, anyone that I had love interest in) her excuses for how she treated me and abused me was because I OWED her for being my mother. The same woman that would never buy groceries but would buy beer. I went to school asking my teachers for supplies. I wore the same clothes because I never had quarters to do my laundry. I would skip the bus just to walk across town to my grandmas house because I didn’t want to go home to my mom. Even now, I’ve had to kick her out my house. Bc she still believes I owe her….
Go no contact she won't change and will only bring misery wherever she goes
If this was my mom I would never have anything to do with them or allow them near my children to keep them safe.
What I miss in these comments is the simple (but sometimes completely overlooked) advice TO GET HELP WHEN YOU FEEL OVERWHELMED BY YOUR CHILD(REN)…!!
Go to a neighbor, call a friend or family member, CALL 911 IF YOU NEED TO…..!!
There IS help, so there is never ever an excuse to take your own frustration out on a child!!!
GET. HELP. Simple!
Yes. Or walk in another room for a few seconds
Hey everyone stay blessed
You Too💯🙏🏾
Sorry what i said was rude- I’m just really hyper
6:47 😂😂😂 Steve facials bruh
“2 yr olds don’t have hair” wha 😂😂 my niece had a full head of hair by the time she was 1 😂
This is by far the sadist episode I've ever seen
If her daughters know what's good for them and their children they will never speak to their mother or allow her anywhere near them ever again. They should change address and never let her find out where they live or work. They should cease all contact with her and never let her have any photos or information about them, ever.
My parents never!!!! I'm so grateful&blesses to have the parents I had!!!! I only WISH I COULD HUG&KISS&THANK THEM ONE LAST TIME!!!!!!!!!!!
7:28 Isn't it wonderful how the sister is acting protective towards her sister, cradling her head and holding her, despite having a biological 'mother' without a protective fibre in her body. I guess the foster/adoptive mother must have taught her to be a good mother.
When My kid kept crying and I did all k could, I played her down, played the radio and closed the door...checking on her every five minutes....smh
Me, too. Or hand her off to her dad. Heh heh.
Everyone knows the best way to make a baby stop crying is burning them with a lighter. /sarc
The mom isn’t right in the head. Stay away from her.
I hear her talking...but all I hear is a lot of blah, blah, blah