I Paid 3 Strangers On Fiverr To Render My Project...
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- Опубликовано: 1 фев 2022
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After so many requests, here it is! If you want to get the files of this video to do your own version of this render. Check out this link (it's free): learnupstairs.gumroad.com/l/aircn
I can't access it, why pls
@@cadtech0547 Input 0 on the price and then click on "buy this"
It costs 0 dollars
NO I CAN DO IT MY SELF!!! :) Too much money you paid! Way too much they could have done a far better job even for the 200! SHould have been super realistic!
Excellent! In my opinion they are compatible with the price points. Well done to all visualizers!
its because its biased, imagine if the 30 dollars one had been better than the 200 dollars one, fiverr would get no profit
Agreed! I love them all!!
Of the three, Mafestoo was by far the best detailed for the price. However, at the same time, Mafestoo failed miserably at one specific element of the rendering, and that was in creating a sense of warmth in the courtyard. This image looks as if it is dusk, and at a time when the courtyard lights should have been turned on. My opinion suggests that the sunset would have been to the east (right side) of this image, and the right facing wall should have been shaded darker than the left-side facing wall.
Additionally, (in my opinion) there should have been a gradient of dark to light shadowing running up the left-facing wall as well. The fact that the courtyard was left relatively shadowed and unlit give this courtyard a rather dark, cold and unattractive (or uncomfortable) feel to it; only by adding warmth by subtle lamp-lighting would have made a significant difference to the feel of the courtyard.
In my opinion, Hanum did the absolute best rendering to capture light and shadow along the walls and courtyard. If, however, Mafestoo had done the same, then hands-down, Mafestoo would have won. For this price comparison and competition, I have to give it to Hanum. However, for the cheap, Joseeki gets an 'Honorable Mention' - incredible rendering and use of shadowing effects... for the price, Joseeki provided more than I would have expected for this price point. Well done.
That's a really in-depth analysis, appreciate it Hydden! And well said, I totally agree with you.
Detailed and accurate analysis
Are u an interior designer?
@@Therandeon 😆😂No, not by a longshot... as an armchair enthusiast, I'm simply interested in technical architectural design and drawing.
You should have made a 3 way, side by side comparison between all three.
Personally, I liked the $100 one best.
i loved the first one, it is somehow more stylish and modern. Besides the birds :D
I feel like the fiverr prices devaluate so much the archviz work (and other fields too, probably). Sure, if someone can ask 30$ for a project and do a decent image that some clients are happy with what's the point of asking a fair price that makes sense for your work and background. No point on trying to sell freelance jobs on the internet on these sites unless you don't value your work high enough. Better to stick with local clients...
That's one of the biggest issues from platforms like this. And that goes the same way for online courses. There are course marketplaces that sell lessons so cheap, that the knowledge and time the creator put into making it is not valued at all. There are good and bad sides to selling your services online, the challenge is how to get the value you're worth it.
And people undervaluing their work to get the gig happens in any type of market, I've seen architects charge a fraction of the project's real value only to get the contract over other peers. It's just sad...
Btw thanks a lot for sharing this input here, Luana
@@LearnUpstairs Not to mention how expensive the tools are, you need a great hardware to render and work efficiently. The only good side of selling the services online is to built a portfolio or practice if you are starting, that's it, although I would choose to find an office job instead.
my thoughts exactly when I saw this. there is no way it should be in this price range. I wonder what is realistic price range for such project in your opinion?
Why the 30$ prices on fivver is that 30$ is quit a lot for third world country like mine. If you work in the office job, you could only get around 180$ for the whole month worth of rendering. So 30 $ for a few days is worth while. The other thing might be the software used. For those who use paid software like Maya and 3Ds Max, it might cost more but if you use software like blender which is free, you don't have to think of the software price in the work. All in all, each client has their own requirements and higher price may get higher quality but if you don't have that much budget, 30$ with reasonable quality might do for you in such case.
@@LearnUpstairs It's a free market, as in any other domain. Sometimes you're just starting your own practice and you're not such a known architect, so in order to gain clients...you need to back down from the pricing...that's just my opinion. Sure, it has downsides, but everyone needs to make a living. Everybody knows that most of the time, price reflects quality...the clients also. Not everybody needs a high quality image...so they pay for a lower quality one. In photography, there's a similar problem..but they are more accepting of this - there are high end photographers who ask for a lot of money, and amateurs who ask for little money - no problem.
This was amazing! Do a more difficult one like on the beach or in the woods
No joke, yesterday I was watchinng ths kind of videos, now you upload this, wow, great video btw
Excelente video! Cada render fue grandioso para el presupuesto que tenían, y además me permitiste descubrir Fiverr como plataforma laboral! Felicidades por el video!
PD: Me encantó el cuadro con los dibujos de Niemeyer
Gracias, Rodrigo!
awesome video and the jobs of those three guys are just mindblowing. i might use them as a personal project thank you for featuring this
Eu já assisti a vários vídeos aqui no canal e estou gostando muito. Hoje eu ri de mim mesmo, pois só agora percebi que você também é brasileiro. Risos.... Parabéns pelo trabalho!
Simmmm
Eu também kkkk mal tem sotaque de brasileiro
@@luks303 O cara fala um inglês perfeito!
Ia, nunca que eu ia perceber
Passei o vídeo todo pensando "o sotaque dele é igual do Davie504, de onde será que os dois são?"
Davie brasileiro confirmado?
@@danyelbarboza davie504 is Italian
Great video, as always! 💙👊🏼
I really liked the end of afternoon light of render #2. it really compliments the volumes. I am not too sure about the types of trees, I would guess you'd like trees giving more shade on this hard cement open space. And yes the bulky guy in the middle looks too big. But this is a quick fix. Render #3 is really nice and I like the cement tiles, much more realistic. But the whole composition is a bit dark for my taste. The lightning of #2 on #3 would be gorgeous!
Thanks this was really fun....and great tips.... you got a new subscriber
Wow! Great video! I loved it! I want more!!
Really good exercise! Thanks for this content
I can do similar work but never gave myself the chance to get hired online, for me, the 100$ one is a reasonable price for 1 good picture, I might think of starting doing that.
I know right? We never think about getting clients from some other country. But I think the experience can be interesting.
keep in mind that the platform takes the 20% of the final price
Ima download it thanks for sharing!!
Thanks for the video Its really helpful for the new grads and bachelors like me to improve our ideas and perspectives on freelance rendering jobs 🤌🏻
Keep it up! 🙌🏻
I liked the second one the most, albeit the people were a bit small. I think the combination of: the details, the lighting and color values of the second one and the interiors, the concrete, the people and vegetation of the last one would be perfect. Not a fan of motion blur of people on the last one, combined with the HDR sky and almost like a dark gradient in the bottom half of the render. Also the sky reflection color was different than the actual sky in the last one. Not worth the double price imo.
SALVEEE! cada dia melhor manin.
the 100$ one was the best out of the 3
es impresionante cada render, buen video!!!
Amo quando vc aparece!!!
Adorei o vídeo! Acabei de conhecer seu canal e agora sinto que terei que maratonar...rs. Obrigada por disponibilizar o arquivo. 😀
When i saw your yt thumbnail, wow!!! And, I saw the $100 project, wow!!!
I always forget about fivrr…..it’s amazing how it connects the world with reasonably priced services that may not be available locally. Such an unbelievable idea.
Awesome thanks ! I will use Fiver on my next project as well
Todos os contratados mostraram grande competência dentro do proposto e do orçamento. E realmente o ultimo mandou muito bem! E como vc disse, de cara a gente sente a falta da separação dos volumes, porém nada que comprometa, na verdade são detalhes. Em contrapartida a sacada de iluminar os ambientes e mostrar o interior ficou incrível! Grande abraço \o/
Com certeza! E também uma simples revisão resolveria a separação dos volumes. Grande abraço!
Thank you sir
Genial! To aprimorando minhas habilidades de archviz e o fiver me parece um bom lugar para pegar novos projetos e juntar uma graninha pra fazer um upgrade no meu pc e pagar a faculdade.
Adoro seus videos, deviam ser matéria obrigatoria no curso de arquitetura!
É uma ótima ideia mesmo! E se não me engano vc ainda é paga em dólar 💵
Obrigado pela mensagem, Mariana! Seria ótimo ter esse tipo de conteúdo na facul haha
Receber em dolar é o sonho de todo brasileiro kkkkkkkkkk
Do not forget to mention that Fivy is holding 20% of your income on its platform.. just for the ones who do not know.. and that the buyer is always right does not matter what.. plus u got to pay TAXES to your tax office.. so you know the rest.
I am not a taxconsultant of any kind, this info is everywhere on the web. Make your search at your own.
Definitely important to know! But also the whole service and platform are what gets you the gigs, so I guess there needs to be some revenue split since they don't charge monthly subscriptions. But maybe 20% is too salty, right?
@@LearnUpstairs Very salty, Im a seller on fiverr and the 20% cut really hurts. Thats why the prices look inflated.
@@samsalot6115 if you got some reputation, you can charge a symbolic fee through the app and arrange the payment outside the platform
Envato platform charges 30-50% so 20% seems low in that case.
In my opinion, Fiver is "killing" the design value. Because of competition, the prices are so low compared to what you need to learn to do this kind of project. So sad
nothing beats sun light for showing the building volume. 2nd is my winner
The 3rd one was best but if combined with the 2nd, wow
Tava suspeitando que era brasileiro mesmo hahaha.
Ótimo conteúdo cara!!
Learned a lot from this video. thank you ! Can you do a tutorial on glass rendering 🥳
Thanks, Miles! Glass is more on the rendering engine, I'll try to include that on some video. But in the meantime, you should check out TN3D Studio youtube channel. He's got some interesting content on rendering software
@@LearnUpstairs ❤
Esperava nunca que tu fosse BR kkkkk, do nada no meio do vídeo "Principalmente se converter pra minha moeda local... aqui no Brasil" kkkkkkkkkk trabalho mt bom, sucesso mano!
Hahha tamo junto, Raphael! Valeu!
About 7:07 To my perspective lowering the opacity of extra render elements like people and trees might keep the lines and edges of the architecture prominent. Like keeping reference lines or axis lines in a sketch or doodle :D
That’s indeed another way to look at it. Interesting point, Md. Shaique Ali
Agree,, also a quick way to harmonize the colours, time is money!
Eu quase cai da cadeira quando descobri que era brasileiro hahaha. Eu achei que você era português ou de algum país com idioma em espanhol. Brasil representadíssimo em todo lugar 🇧🇷❤️
Levei um susto quando vi a conversão p R$ 😅
@@jota_r3072 Pois é, só a gente pra sofrer com a expectativa de quem pagou mais de mil e a realidade da entrega de quem só vai receber o equivalente a 200 reais kkkkk
Eu também hahaha
Já eu senti que ele era brasileiro desde o primeiro segundo. Não sei por que, mas sempre sei quando alguém é brasileiro, mesmo essa pessoa não falando nada. Só pela cara já sinto. Quando ele disse que era do Brasil, fiquei tipo: - que??? Mentira que eu acertei de novo!!! Kkkkkk
Várias vezes já identifiquei brasileiros em canais gringos ou aparentemente gringos. Muito estranho isso!
Mafestoo's image is like one of my photos - c/w tree coming out of the head of a passer-by.
They had 2 revisions with most of these, it would have been interesting if you went back to them with your criticisms and see if they improved.
Caramba! Você é brasileiro... que dá hora!
I would love to have this file available online so that the community could have some fun and maybe have a little ‘competition’ of sort
Check the pinned comment 😀
@@LearnUpstairs Awesome!
How on earth does anyone make a living on $30 a render? It doesn't matter how fast or streamlined your process is, it will still take you at least 1 hour to import, dress and setup a view and export it. Add in electricity costs, software license costs and hardware costs and you would be losing money with each image before you even factor in your own time.
My friend is an architect, he also uses faded people like the first guy in his renderings
Eita, vc tbn é brasileiro?? Sabia não, parabéns pelo trabalho sou dessa área de render para arquitetura e curti muito o vídeo!
Sou brasileiro sim! Que bom que curtiu o video! 😁 valeu!
In my opinion, the usd100 render is the best, with one more correction that render will be perfect, the usd200 one is very good, but it concentrated, perhaps, on the interiors and on other worse details, forgetting to add a light rune between both volumes to separate them and give it a vortex appearance hidden behind the volumes, if I do a night render it is the first element I add
3rd one is crazy
top! trabalham bem, contrataria para situações distintas.
I would love to do fiverr as an extra way to get income, but just started with architecture (3rd year) This is an inspiration!
It's not easy to get clients on Fiverr, you need to promote your work on other platforms a ton. I think it's easier to tell your college friends and colleagues about what you do and wait for them or other students to buy your services, I got a friend that does that and it's working
@@rodrigo9554 Thanks for the info! I have experienced that too. I live in the Netherlands, so a lot of architects know each other. The only jobs so far ive had were via (old) colleagues from internships
Comments given are the same here...we see the big difference from the three options posted,thank you
Eu assisto ao canal há uns bons anos. Sempre desconfiei que era brasileiro. Agora eu tive certeza!
For the last image, are the windows frames meant to be in different colors for each building? One is with light frames and the other is with dark frames.
I didn't notice that, can you believe it? 😅 It has been a long time since this project was put together, but it doesn't make sense to have different colors on the frames of each building.
That's definitely a mistake, but I'm not sure if it was like that in 3D, or it was changed during the rendering process.
Hello upstairs, i am working since a few month with photoshop, but i still dont know how architecture-artists creat this soft look in renders - like you see in 6:43. Do youknow which effect is mostly important for that? Regrads.
These fiverr videos are just making the job worth less. $200 for the "premium" one? People in the field put this as part of a project, that price is nothing compared to the overall price of a project, and nowadays is used as the main the to sell the project. In brazil it may be a minimum wage, but architectural visualizations is not an standard job, it requires skills and you need time to learn it, free or paid, you have a set of skills not everybody has, period. The cheap one should cost 200, the premium 600 at least. If you work in fiver raise your prices bro, you're not just hurting yourself but you peers.
Finally someone said my opinion.
These prices is too low.
200 $ for a month !!!!! This is shitty shit
That's why I quit the Archviz. Well... maybe one of the reasons why)) 30$ per image it's a pure humiliation no matter where are you from.
Agreed. But could be a new user who needs the sales to increase price later.
$200 for the premium is OK, in my opnion, in Brazil working with render is complicated. Bad deadlines and lots of changes to make. The final price ends up being little for the demand
@@vladimirkhadyko8304 If you like it, you shouldn't quit, keep looking for better clients or a good office, I know there are a lot of them out there, can be rough sometimes but it can be rewarding as well.
mto massa kkk parabéns, gosto de ver esse tipo de vídeo pq identifiquei aqui erros q cometo, em todos os 3 casos
Valeu, Matheus! Com certeza da pra aprender muito com o trabalho de outras pessoas 😀
Are you from Brazil or just living here? Your english is unbelievable. I'm from Brazil. As you said 200 USD is a lot for us. Nice project.
Guys im trying to get into this field and i have some questions:
1) do they send you the 3d model of the project and you just render it? And if no can you request it at a lower price ?
2) how do i know what price to get? I am in a country where 200 dollars is a good deal but how do i know if i should rise my prices ?
The 200k is too dark, but for the overall, amazing work!
For $30.-…😳… might as well do it for free!!! I work in this field and I wouldn’t be able to feed a family, pay taxes, health insurance, and rent for the house if I would do these jobs for that lousy price… it just doesn’t add up. This is absolutely ruinous.
Why don’t you ask someone to do it for free and see what happens?
It depends on where you live and in what stage of your “career” you are.
30 dollars converting to another currency that is on a low can become quite useful.
I know that for some Latin American countries, India, and some others, 30 USD is not just some pocket money.
Nonetheless I agree with you, a professional shouldn’t charge only that. But that was what he charged and what he asked for the Fiverr gig
He probably already has a full time job that covers all of his expenses.
Just guessing...
- First render engine...i dont know
- Second render i think is vray for sketchup
- The last render seems to have been done in lumion
8:14 Those leaves on the ground are really irking me on that one, how they are in clusters and do not really look like they are on the ground. Also those look like pines so there would not be leaves.
Great video. Do you have any tutorials which show how to make a render in this style? ( the $200 one)
Thanks, 4U!
The $200 image was probably done on 3DS MAX. But I'm pretty certain you can achieve a very similar result with Vray + other 3d software, or even in other popular rendering engines with more basic modeling software.
But specifically on this style, there's not a video on the channel that talks about it
Basically, Architectural Visualization is God mode to render 3D models and every designer offers their take on what the client wants to see.
I liked the birds, I think it'd feel empty without 'em
Hitchcock everyone?
All of them WIN
it would we nicer if you added some kind of comparison. like if we can see all three and compare them it would be easier to answer your final quesiton :) i think 30usd one is fine but with a little adjustment on the 100usd one, it is worth tripling the mpney. 200usd one is not worty in my opiinion but i'm not an expert, I just graduated architecture.
At the tenth month of the video, it may be late a bit to ask that but i wondered in what resolution, file size you required the final renders?
Which program did they use? V-ray or render?
Não acredito que seja brasileiro! Não percebi sotaque nenhum! Ótimo video!
Very poor light in the last one. I think the first, the cheapest I liked the most.
Caímos de paraquedas neste vídeo, muito bom!!! Estamos considerando contratar serviços por este tipo de plataforma.
Mais um inscrito!!!
I like the first one, cheap and nice
did anyone notice the direction of the shadow of the tree and the iron bar?
The 100d had d best visualization... Except for that 1 giant guy 😁
There's a lack of foreground shadows and framing with vegetation with all of them and as you say a clear distinction between the volumns ......the lighting could be definitely improved upon......some basics of composition were ingnored for sure...
I agree with you! Maybe the composition is a bit of my fault I guess haha I mean I suggested the scene after all
You should move. There are countries where you earn your monthly wage (the local wage you mentioned as an example) in a day or 2.
I can't even tell that you are Brasilian, you speak english very good.
Sry if i didn't use the best words in english, im not I don't speak it too weel
I have to say that I liked the last one the least. Way too dark imo, and I didn't like the concrete ground tiles either...
Same
Maybe add a cornice it will look better!
oh hanum is my senior at atma jaya, nice and cool girl
Descobri apenas nesse vídeo que você é do Brasil, Hahahaha. Eu to muito feliz com essa notícia.
Hahah achei que todos soubessem já 😅
Tamo junto Igor!!
I join this competition
caramba, so percebi que era brazuca quando falou da nossa moeda, sem sotaque nenhum hahah gostei muito do video
Cool video brother
Thanks dude!
which is the best way to start as a freelance in the world of archviz nowdays? i wanted to start a FIVERR acount but i don´t know!!
Hey Ignacio, I've heard a lot about Fiverr, but I've never worked on the platform to really know all the details. I think it may be a great way to start, especially because you get connected with people all over the world, can charge international rates and they don't charge monthly fees.
Just above there's a comment here that is saying that Fiverr holds 20% of the revenue. This is definitely something to take into account, but again if it weren't for the service Fiverr provided, you probably wouldn't have that gig to start with.
It'd be awesome if someone that has already worked on Fiverr could give their input here.
Basically, you get what you pay :)
Achei todos ótimos, no ultimo poderia ter balizadores ou postes de luz, já que estava quase noturna a cena, achei os valores acessíveis, e eu gostaria de ganhar uma grana renderizando para o Fiverr também, mas do jeito que eu demoro para fazer as coisas, não ia conseguir colocar muita comida na mesa não!!! Vale tentar!
Bem colocado, ALEC! Por $200 eles poderiam ter ido alem do que foi pedido e colocado esses detalhes extras.
Da pra levar o Fiverr também como algo secundário, se fiver uns 3 ou 4 por mês já da uma graninha extra pra complementar a renda.
Carísimo a mi parecer esos renders se sacan con 1 hora de trabajo muy fácil
BRABOOOOOOO
What about sharing 3d model to the subscribers and let them render on their own and make a video?
Done! Check the pinned comment 😀
I found the values very consistent with the images, but I was surprised by the quality of the 30$ one. It's funny, our Brazilian brain automatically converts the price to Real, so I would expect a little more from an image over R$1000.00. The lack of depth and perception of the building's volumes bothers me just a little bit, but I believe that with one review they would be able to reach this point. As always the video is amazing and I loved this type of analysis, it gives us a perception of details that we sometimes let slip and how they affect the final render!
Achei os valores muito condizentes com as imagens entregues mas me surpreendi com a qualidade do de 30$. É engraçado, nosso cérebro Brasileiro automaticamente converte o valor para Real, então eu esperaria um pouco mais de uma imagem de mais de R$1000,00. A falta de profundidade e percepção dos volumes da edificação me incomoda um pouco, mas acredito que com uma revisão conseguiria atingir esse ponto. Como sempre o vídeo está incrível e adorei esse tipo de analise, nos dá uma percepção de detalhes que as vezes deixamos passar e de como eles afetam o resultado final!
É verdade! Não tem como não converter 😅
Pois é, parece distante R$1000 por um render, mas vale lembrar que isso varia muito com o país e mercado. Valeu pelo feedback, Gabriely!
100 dolares no es mucho dinero. el precio esta relativo al valor internacional. en paises del tercer mundo estas plataformas sirven para VENDER servicios, para comprarlos conviene conseguir alguien del medio local, que ya conozcamos o tengamos referencias
3:49 Isn't this a Lumion example?
the 100 dollar is best price with nice result.
but are they don't disclose the render engine they use? cause I thought it must be part of the price they offer
and are with that price is just for one image service? it's not enough to present the project with one image
I dont' know I am just trying to understand fiveer business work
Thanks for the Hindi subs
I think all of them charge way too little. Even the last one. Like how can you model in the whole interior, light it properly, add props inside and still charge 200 usd. The first one should be at least 125, the second one 250 and the last one 450 in my opinion
How i can get architecture projects from foreign countries& how i can sale my renders? please give us your information 🌺
A 3rd year 😩 I’m doing that in graduate school and still struggling
Shame most people on Fiverr only want to pay minimum regardless of quality
so cool 太厲害了