New World - A Slightly Above Average MMO
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Amazon, a 1 trillion dollar company, have made a slightly above average MMO.
I honestly expected more, after all this is the team behind the incredibly successful 'Airport Mania - First Flight HD'.
So let's play and review the brand new MMORPG, New World.
Basically a glorified long term battle royale, 3d runescape, pvp focused area controll game, it's not bad, but it's not changing the genre, it's not doing any single thing better than anyone else.
It's got some nice crafting and gorgeous environmental design, but as for gameplay loops, it feels heavily reliant on players 'making thier own fun' which never, ever bodes well for an MMO.
Thanks to the Spiffing Brit for sorting me out with a Beta code.
Thank you to the supporters on Patreon and Twitch who keep the channel alive!
The player character sliding across the ground while flailing their elbows around is one of the funniest visual bugs since dragons flying backwards and spitting flames out of their ass in Skyrim.
Heard u were talking shit about me buddy🤜🤛....lol just fucking around have a great day/night my dude
I thought that was a dream!
With regards to "this game doesn't hold your hand," I always think it's worth mentioning that famously cutthroat PVP sandbox MMO EVE Online has always had an exceptionally hand-holdy tutorial because you 100% need it.
Warframe could use it. It hold your hand for two seconds then plunges you into the void
Might be why that's like, the only super cut-throat always PVP sandbox whateverthehell MMO that isn't either dead, on the verge of death, or exists with like 10 people in it because it can actually attract new players.
@@youtube-kit9450 and space is cool as hell!
"This doesn't feel like something made by a trillion dollar company" perfect description for Amazon Prime Video, on which I roughly based my expectations for this game.
The more a company earns the worse the game becomes.
Did you play the game?
this is going to be the next Fallout76
western developers should start taking the industry seriously
@@n124ajdx ?? Fallout 76 was dead on arrival. Regardless of what this guy is saying, the game is nowhere near as broken as it's portrayed here. In fact, most people that have played it, like it tons! The only major problem is if they'll be able to keep expanding on content or not, but I've played about 40h thus far and i cannot report any major bugs at all.
I will say, love a lot of MMOs, it can become tedious having to do constant fetch quests, but they reward you handsomely for it making it worth it
@@n124ajdx Stop overreating! New World is actually a very good game and it will only get better. The game is thin on content because the devs completely changed direction from a PvP centric game to a PvE centric game. In truth, the amount of content that AGS has added to the game in such a short time since the change of direction is actually very impressive.
"Using a server that they found dumped in a canal somewhere"
Which would be truly ironic if Amazon were to be one of the biggest server providers on the planet, right?
Yea, like, they could host web services. I would call it Amazon Web Services (short AWS). Hmm if only.
They could make quite a lot of money with it. It could be their main source of income.
If only they had some servers.
only if the company that i work for in London is worth like 300-400mil£ and is using amazon wek services that are not cheap .... only if
Yes let's pretend that hosting servers and developing a stable game server are the same things. Game servers run on top of server infrastructure. They are not one and the same.
@@nawdawg4300 Ashes of Creation was using AWS for servers and they handled plenty of 10k mobs mass spawned in an area, and 150v150 pvp sieges in the past on its A1 server.
The fact is that New World's devs know it's not going to be profitable, which means they LITERALLY can not afford the costs of standard AWS others pay for.
So it'll become P2W sooner than later, let's all have fun buying mounts, fast travel, and exp boosts!
@@VlaGus29 AWS isnt just some computers in a hole bthey run a shit ton of infrastructure and services. Most modern games run on AWS
Next Spiff video: "Josh Strife Hayes is a perfectly balanced person with zero exploits"
And now I'm going to give him a beta key.
Oh look at him dance. I just got to level 100 with one item.
Just watch out for his elbows.
"Imagine you ordered Dark Souls from Wish" I'M IN STITCHES
Scrolled down to see if this comment had been added yet - and here it is, thank you!
I snorted my drink when he said it.
@Amadeus Luciiann how???
hahahahahaha
I wasn't sure if that comment was meant to defer me from buying or not
I feel bad for the studio that created this. No matter how impressive the game is in relation to their actual budget they will always be held to the expectation of being a trillion dollar company.
Once you see this as a child company that only gets an allowance from Amazon to make a profitable game rather than it being Amazon itself you view the flaws and features in a new light.
Let's not forget that they had to use their own inhouse engine called lumberyard which was them re-inventing the wheel. Pretty they could have saved a ton of resources by using UE and focused on the game content instead.
Also, they did have a 500m budget per year according to Bloomberg so... that should do the trick.
*Thank you gif!*
@@vadeka well it was either use something they were familiar, and re work it for their needs, or learn an entirely new engine, systems and everything. Pretty sure this is why Bethesda sticks with their Creation Engine. Easy to work with and modulate vs time spent learning new engine. Not to mention, both have the access (more so Bethesda imo) to more money through their owners, they can allocate more resources to developing and iterating their own engines. Yeah UE is cool, but it doesn't meet every devs needs or wants.
Yep.
@@vadeka I'm gonna need some citation on that.. I actually really love this game and am heavily invested in it's potential, but I do not see 500m budget, especially not 2.5billion budget since the game has been in development for at least 5 years now and you're 500m per year. Unless of course, in classic Amazon fashion, the 500 million budget had 470m going to Executive wages/bonuses, 20 million to regular employee wages and 10 million to actual game development.
I don't know, I tend not to trust articles and news outlets these days, not because of some Fake News claims but rather because gaming articles tend to be opinionated rather than factual.
Can't wait for the Spiffing Brit to upload "New World is a perfectly balance MMORPG with no exploits"
Lets see; infinte money exploit check, quest board and inventory bug giving infinte xp check, disabling others ability to engage in pvp check and also starting a war event in a territory a day early check. It will be a long video.
@@Seven-db3xy or he can just spread it around into several videos. shorter videos = more views = more money. that's a youtube exploit right there
@@jovee6155 in a recent video he proved the opposite is true. 90h long stream vod is the way
@@Seven-db3xy lmao, the war event bug just happened three days ago on release in the server i'm playing , happened two times...
I feel like winning or losing your first PvP encounter decides whether you like it or not. If you win, you think "I want to do that over and over again all the time" if you lose, you think "I never want that to happen ever again."
That running animation had me rolling on the ground laughing. Would be funny as a cosmetic joke animation later on just to remember.
@@justiful01 check the forums, its a minority but it "existed".
Supposedly was patched yesterday.
@@justiful01 This is literally just Skyrim all over again. "I didn't see it, and I asked a group of people who are desperately trying to fight off buyer's remorse and as a result will not be honest, and none of us experienced any bugs!" Just admit it's buggy but you still enjoy it. You don't have to argue in bad faith because you like something mediocre. Just be honest with yourself.
Wow, I've never seen or heard of that running issue xD
Me neither.
Same, or the lag. Hyperbole is in, I guess.
Same.. im very skeptical about this game so far but I saw none of the issues he's having. I have even been playing on an Aussie server from NA west coast area..
*shrugs*
Never had that running issue yet lol considering how laggy the quality of the video is, pretty sure that issues on Josh
LOTRO has a couple of similar issues, but it's hardly a new game ;-)
Sometimes when you summon a mount, it will spawn in around your character, and there's a delay before the "mount" animation fires, but you can still move, so this bizarre character/horse hybrid skates down the street for a bit until something pops and your character mounts up properly: this seems to always happen in well-populated towns and is most likely directly related to lag.
There's one particular skill for Burglars which applies a Debuff to your target, and if you trigger it while running, your character adopts a casting pose and skates towards the target. This is simply an interesting clash between the skill and running animations, and might well happen for other skills that I either don't have or never noticed.
As I said, that is on a game that started in about 2007, so it has at least some vague excuse: what is the excuse from "New World"?
"Haha yeah this looks like a fun early look at something in development"
"...it comes out WHEN"
And it was supposed to release a year ago lol.
@Kayla Brown yeah its a bit stinky
Literally my reaction. I just heard about it and it sounded like an interesting game for beta. If it releases like this it'll be dead in a few months!
@Kayla Brown It looks gorgeous, he was running the game on a 7 year old computer using a tiny ass and slow hard drive. My PC is not top end RX 580 / Intel 7700k and SSD Game drive and it ran great.. I had none of the issues he had and everything looked and worked splendid.
All all of his videos this clickbaty?
Coming from Mr. Worst-MMO-Ever, this is high praise.
Youre right, he even featured one of his favorite games in the worst mmos series lol.
@@joelhodoborgas Which game?
@@fandasri RuneScape i bet
WoW?😩
@@joelhodoborgas Pretty sure worst mmos is just rating every mmo ever.. but the really bad ones obviously take priority.
Seeing as I know that Amazon is involved somehow; I'm not surprised at all that you'd have to pay to participate in the Beta. Why pay your own workers for actual work when you can charge players ? Clearly their main/only focus is earning money instead of providing players with a game that gives them what they need/want.
Honestly why isn’t there a supercut of all Josh’s character creations thru the years? His hair on this one is absolutely perfect.
Its official: Josh plans to teabag the Spiffin Brit.
Imagine being one of the biggest server hosting companies and having lag, like they are probably already hosting servers for other mmos just fine.
Difference, they get paid to run those XP
Name 1 mmo with good servers
Damn, i had just posted this same comment xD
I deleted :P
@@FukkenGoogel ff14 when they arent seeing all time peak numbers due to a WoW mass exodus
the thing is people dont understand about game dev. It's probably not the servers but rather the optmiziation of the game. You can have as much servers you want, but if the game is flawded you will run into problems. A LOT OF THEM, and servers ARE NOT TO BLAME
Something about this game I just like. It may not do anything “different” but it just seems to do things well imo. It makes me feel like I’m playing RuneScape for the first time again, and I mean that in a super good way. think it has really good foundation also.
True, only other mmorpg that feels like osrs
like how do u run well?
@@Synthetics7 Except BDO is literally 3d runescape if you can afford $100 to buy in
@@freemel8929 I haven't played BDO yet and have only recently started playing Runescape. In what way does paying in $100 make BDO the same as Runescape?
@@mechanomics2649 Eh, I just mean you need around $100 to buy the convenience items needed to play BDO as a primary game. Theres some items locked behind P2W that are necessary and beyond that its pretty non-p2w. The game itself is a lot like runescape, it has lifeskills and rank chasing that is very similar, and you can spend hundreds/thousands of hours grinding in pve or lifeskill to reach the top. The combat is 100% action and combo based and is far beyond any other mmo, but you can also choose to just do skills and pretty much make the same progress as someone who does pve. Huge sandbox, huge world, lots of locations and things to do.
The CC on YT is amazing Mr. Josh Dryface.
damn all these bezos in space jokes are just out of this world
To anyone bummed at the map not showing specific nodes. Once you level up the corresponding gathering skill, you will see nodes on the compass as you walk around. It's not as nice as seeing nodes across the whole map, but it is better than nothing. This even works for things such as rabbits and turkeys.
I had to stop playing the beta to say, "servers made by tissues papers and wishes" is pure gold.
The irony is, that amazon is one of the worlds biggest server hosters (aws), with automatic scaling of servers and so on.
Servers got fixed pretty fast. At least good that they tested the servers during a beta before release.
When I saw the tutorial area I immediately thought "Well, someone has played Path of Exile."
Saaaaaame xD
So did poe rip off life is feudal, or vice versa? Lol
Salutation exile
@@cheesesniper473 didnt poe come out before LiF
@@cheesesniper473 POE came out 2 years before LIF
"Their servers are made of tissue paper and dreams" had me laughing so hard, it resulted in a comment, like, and subscribe. You sir, make some incredible videos!
About the starting zone...Me and me friend were going to play together, after carefully deciding on which server to play (massive queues everywhere), we picked a server, waited about 40min in queue to in the end, spawn on different locations far away from each other and not being able to play together (:
Whoever thought random starting points in a game like this should rethink their life decisions...
You are able to play together. You just have to travel a bit. You can already explore tge world then.
Looking forward to hear your thoughts about it. Objectively, there is probably a lot to improve. Personally though, I'm enjoying this game like I haven't enjoyed an MMO in years.
I felt Josh had serious bias against Amazon. X Y Z thing is !good! BUT TRILLION dollar company...
I don't like amazon per say, but I'd want more objective opinion/review more about THE GAME not company
@@Synthetics7 his points about them being a trillion dollar company but STILL failing to meet server demand when they provide servers as a business is SUPER prescient. Where was he being critical of the company in a way biasing his opinion against the game?
@@Synthetics7 He brings up Amazon a lot because, as he says, if it wasnt for Amazon's name being attached to it, it'd be just another passable but forgettable mmo abd not getting any of the attention it's had
@@BroadwayRonMexico you really think so? Right now everyone says the same : I am having fun but this game is from Amazon so it should be better.
Kinds looks to me that the name Amazon even hurts the game
here's to hoping we see josh doing something stupid in a spiffing brit video soon :)
Spif x josh, the collab we all waiting for
Maybe a simple unpayed intern will do the trick, Connar must be getting old
I think someone forgot to feed the sever hamsters so they escaped.
They left a note saying they would never serve. 😁
I heard that the server hamsters went to space with Jeff.
@@lemonybiscuits4824 Oh no Sylvanas got to the server hamsters.
@@dracuhl8342 I heard they returned to hamstetdam, and that they are exceedingly angry.
@@steampunkpixie2643 the ultimate indignity. She must clean out their little houses each week, and lug home their paper bedding from the store. 😁
Josh Strife Hayes: Slightly above average but with a 1 Trillion dollar company I expected more!
Me: I expected less since the game studio is trash so it was a nice surprise!
Yeah I'm in the same boat, it's pretty foolish to think Amazon would actually throw any real budget to their game studio since it's still in a "proof of concept" phase with this being their first major release.
@@MIKEaddictedtoYT Exactly, you cant just throw money at a project and it will be instantly great.
Also companies who has a trillion dollars probably got there by NOT spending more than they had to.
The really crazy thing about the server issues is that, let's not forget, one of Amazon's big sections is their cloud services. These folks really should be all over servers!
I was not expecting a lindybeige reference nice
Haha same. Love Lindybeige
Same happily surprised
Thank you. You cut through the hype and tell how the game actually plays.
That opener was all sorts if fire
Correction. The fire never stopped
How could anyone have complained about a rainbow lion breaking immersion when green and purple hair is an option?
It doesn't feel like a trillion dollar game because its budget is not a trillion dollars. I wouldn't expect Amazon to spend even half of a percent of their total budget on games.
So this is dark souls from wish mixed with a bit of Albion online and runescape.
Seems fun
Pretty much
Damn, this looks pretty solid for a beta
>Month from release
Damn, this looks fucking awful
so true if u didnt now this is supposed to come out soon you would be whay more optimistic🙃😥
Honestly, assuming animation glitches and lag are the ONLY major issues. That's fucking fine, they can iron that out real quick. I've never seen an MMO where I thought the fighting was good without being a cluster fuck of colors or a slogfest of hitting
i'm not defending new world but holy shit josh is that one unlucky dude in the server that got all that problem, because i have over 30 guys that i play with not a single person have problem like josh have...
I haven't seen a single issue yet, so I'm thinking there's something wrong with his setup
Circlejerk fanbase of this guy is actually braindead
"The Combat: Imagine you ordered Dark Souls from Wish. This is what you'd get."
I fell out of my chair.
Sounds horrible 🤣
Did you? Did you really?
@@bmhyakiri legitimately. I laughed that hard
You okay? It wasn't that funny. Like a low hanging fruit joke.
@@Demogarose yes, sure you did
"Some people wait up to an hour" damn that would be nice on real launch day :D
A trillion dollar company didn't make it. A small well funded new game studio made it.
50 hours into the beta, I've never seen this walking bug before and that's kinda hilarious.
It's so bad ain't it 😅😅
That's his 3090 melting 🤣
It seems to have started after they implemented the 3090 meltdown fix
@@HazyJ28 Been playing all day every day, still have yet to see this bug.
Easy fix is just dodge and the bug is gone
No animation cancelling in a game trying to label himself " action " is a joke.
During previous alpha it was way better since we had stagger and the SUPER SLOW animation would still be ok because of it, now it's a game of not pressing button and reacting to what others are doing, you're almost never reward for actually going first, even with rapier who has the lowest frames recovery. it's 2021, we have way enough good example to have good arpg.
Not trying to be rude, but people saying "i like to use strategy and pressing button to have an impact more than being reward for reactivity "" aren't dedicate pvp'ers. They're muggers Albion ARCHling who enjoy 10vs1 ratio combat, hitting on lower level and less geared ppl and probably have a 700 ms reaction time. I get it, people dont want fair fights because losing would fall in their hands and ruin their ego, but for the love of god, dont market a game as " Heavy focus on PVP " when your core gameplay is so bad, and when leveling in pvp is legit 10 times slower than crafting and gathering (level 37 atm in beta). I was hoping for instanced PVP where we could have some decent fights but having to reach 60 is a no go for me. Why cant we have low level instanced pvp ?
Since the revamp from full loot hardcore pvp, i guess AGS choose the path of least effort, trying to appeal as much as possible to a wide variety of people without actually putting effort into anything.
As someone who've been doing PVP in almost every mmorpg since early DAOC, i'm sad and disapointed.
im hearing this isn't really mmorpg its ARPG trying pass as one, why I'm not sure about this game, plus its Amazon they don't really have a track record, if you want count everything they had failure and cancellations
@@kyotheman69 To be fair the gathering/crafting/trading aspect of the game ie decent. having paid voice actor for quest is good too.
Tbh i think they should have just delete any form of pvp and heavily focus the game on pve/sandbox with a small theme park for content and he would be way better !
And yeah, i'm willing to give them a small chance, but they'll have to show some interest in ppl feedback.
The company that owns the server that basically run the world at this point have a laggy game...
Come on give them a break, their boss is on vacation...
@@bcyost1908 at least in space he'll know how it feels to piss in bottles all day
@@WolfgangDoW he can stay in space all i care
Nah
Just the Americas and maybe Europe
Alibaba rules the other side
maybe the servers are on the spaceship that Bezos is on...
Okay, that "but it's made by a trillion dollar company" line really started to irk me halfway.
This is not how the real world works!
This is one of those subsidiary of a subsidiary of a daughter company of a subsidiary kind of situations. Preferably with a Dutch or Irish closet company somewhere halfway in there.
No, this studio does _NOT_ have a trillion dollars available. Their 'stakeholder' might have been Amazon Inc, but there is some financial management from the 'big parent company' that assigns a budget.
Was the Windows Phone a result of the richest company on earth at that time? No, it was a result of mismanagement. And no, it does not mean that the Windows Phone team had the full budget of Microsoft behind it.
Ok cpt obvious
@@janundsoo If it is so obvious, why did the maker of this video keep repeating this misguided view?
@@perhapsyes2493 some trashtalk is healthy for this format
The community already hav that "kind" of "player" whos cant take on criticism, its like a an demon cult
Yeah lot's of those on the comments
Not that shit again....
Yeah if you dare to mention anything the game needs worked on you get dogpiled.
It feels like people already have sunk cost fallacies for a game that doesn't even exist yet. Honestly, it's probably just people so thirsty for a new fix they refuse to entertain the idea that this game might not be that great.
ikr its kind of creepy. and its not just here either, on any video thats even slightly critical of any aspect of this game there are amazon fanboys frothing at the mouth. the fact that amazon even HAS fanboys is just... how much of a consoomer can you be? lol
@@gamma00crucis it has nothing to do with them being Amazon, what’s with all the conspiracy theorists? You guys bored or something?
Could you imagine being in a party with Josh, Lindy and Spiffing Brit?? 🤯
Kind of makes me glad they didn't make the lotr mmo.
Yeah tbh now I can more easily forget about this lackluster MMO. Would be a lot more upsetting if they'd disrespected LOTR that way. Maybe that's the real reason they didn't do it 😂 maybe they knew it was going to be forgettable and didn't want LOTR fan base wrath.
This game just feels like mayo alone slapped on a plate. Like, mayo on a sandwich with all the other sandwich fillings is great, but mayo alone slapped on a plate is weird, boring, & kinda gross...like this MMO.
@@gabbyb9418 Have you tried it yet? It's fantastic, especially considering the studio hasn't made any games yet besides a arena shooter that failed and a mobile game. Seriously, give it a chance before saying something stupid like this. Even JSH says its above average, and it isn't released yet. Look at FFXIV, when it released it was so bad it almost Bankrupted the studio, now it's the most successful MMO out there.
@@TheSheff45 Exactly. Just imagine where this game could be in a year or two. It has a great foundation, and a unique setting for an MMORPG.
@@gabbyb9418 This game is just fine wtf are you saying
The PVP battle with the hammer dude was pretty tense and fun to watch
The character model runs like I run in dreams
"THis game doesn't hold your hand"
Says someone who has never grown their own food, slaughtered their own livestock, made their own clothes and who went to college and had an internship to have someone teach them how to do their job.
ooooo that is a comment inducing/ click baity title if I ever saw one :)
An yes, Ebony Dark'ness, a classic character as old as time
A new MMO? You know the deal lads
[new mmo] will kill [old mmo]!
What about [new mmo] + [recently surging in popularity mmo] + [lawsuit] will kill [old mmo]!
Too optimistic?
How DARE you speak poorly about [my chosen MMO]. [Complete failure of an MMO] was so much worse.
@@JiF28 Wait are people actually saying that harassment lawsuit will kill WoW?
Do people know how much money Activision-Blizzard sit on?
@@BatJeff Pfft does your MMO even have date dungeons?
@@notrod5341 statistically there has to be at least one idiot that believes that
17:08 to be fair, on a stress test they typically multiply every players action by 10 to simulate 10x the number of players actually there.
I think he is quite biased in this because of the "Amazon" company name in the studio.
@@babbsan123 I think everyone is, of course you're gonna be expecting more from some studio based in Amazon, than from some small indie 5-man studio
@@meafly7643 Can't really compare between a triple a company against a indie one. Compare amazon with other aaa companies instead. Just because Amazon is a trilion dollar company it doesn't mean they have trilions of dollars to spend on the studio.
@@babbsan123 Right, and they wouldn't invest all of that anyways because they wont get it back in revenue, it would be bad business.
09:48 - "we silently skate up to this unsuspectig boar like the ninja we are" 🤣🤣🤣🤣. That is freakin' funny dude!!!
Seems like the programmers need to grab empty piss bottles and get to underpaid, non-unionized work before their space overlord is angered.
well and truly said!
The combat looks like playing dark souls while wearing oven mitts. Guess I'll wait and see.
Want a good souls like game go play Let it Die
not liking fast travel aspect, rather have mounts
@Flare Can't stand flamboyant immersion breaking cosmetics. so... I don't know... play a japanese or korean mmo I guess.
@Flare my comment was about fashion, not gameplay.
@Flare I'm not sure what the point you're trying to make is.
My favorite part of this video is how, in like half of the footage, you can see in the chat portion of the UI the same dude spamming advertisement asking people to join his russian-only-speaking guild.
The true MMO experience (...and why i don't play on EU servers...)
I always imagined mexicans be the Russians of NA.
@@prankfazza Make is Central America as a whole and you've got it.
This entire comment section aged like shit
JSH: “New world has no specific feature that is particularly exceptional.”
Also JSH: “Environmental design has been knocked out of the park and into outer space.”
I've seen similar environmental design in games that accomplish more.
He's saying this game doesn't do anything better.
That's still true, even with the environment.
@@XaadeTheBlade no you havent. i cant think of any mmo that does the open world like this visuals and soundscape included.
and yeah, ive played ALOT of mmo's
@@112523 maybe not MMOs, but I've played RPGs better than this for combat and world design for the same aesthetic. It's good ig, but it's not exceptional in anything but crafting. Reminds me most of destiny tbh, but at least destiny has amazing gunplay
@@narrowstone5363 i have to disagree on destiny 2. the gunplay feels very mediocre to me. plenty of games did it far better imo. but still, cant really compare a single player rpg with an mmo as an mmo has way more to keep in mind. not even talking about the amount of players connecting to the same server. games like destiny and warframe have an easier time at this since theyre mainly instance based
@@112523 i was talking about destiny 1. But really, it doesn't matter. An MMO has a lot to deal with, most MMOs need to make compromises for budgeting reasons, but this is coming from AMAZON. One of the richest companies in the world have pleged full support behind the game and is willing to sink tons of money into it. It's likely it had the same budget as wow, or ff, which makes this even worse. It's mediocre at best, and for a company with as much cash as Amazon, it should be great with everything it does. But i can find everything it does, done better in other games. So why would people spend $30 on a mediocre game, that'll likely get shit canned within 3 years, and requires tons of time investment, when I could get FF, or WOW, or play Warframe or genshin for free. Or pay $60 for a game like the Witcher or Skyrim and automatically get more content for longer. It being an MMO doesn't save it from being middling at best
Honestly, i think above average for the launch is fine. What matters is what happens after that. How fast they can churn out content and the quality of it. Also lets not forget this is the first MAJOR western MMO release since what, ESO i think? Players are starved enough that many will be fine with above average for a few months and hope the first large content patch will make the game amazing (I sure am). On the topic of the lag and animation bugs, i have never seen any of the movement bugs, and only experienced lag when the beta launched and the starting zone was a mosh pit of 500 players trying to all do the same thing simultaneously. However there was a hillarious bug that they already patched out, but for a time the ground was littered with invisible dead trees that you would get stuck on every 2 seconds.
Yeah I don't know what this guy is bitching about. He keeps mentioning "trillion dollar company" as if that means they are a trillion dollar game company. Their first big time game failed. How likely is it that they would pump hundreds of millions into another online game? They need to see if it will make money first, like any other company. He also mentions that it's riding off of the Amazon name alone. Contradictory to his point of this being a "trillion dollar company"; if this were a smaller company making this MMO he'd be absolutely praising it. He's mad because it's only "good enough" instead of absolutely amazing. Extremely pretentious attitude in my opinion.
Also the entitlement of wondering why he never received a beta key rubbed me the wrong way.
@@maxb2244 Any investment is a risk, but without the risk, there is no reward. If Amazon is only going to support it if it is an explosive success, then you might as well quit now.
@@Skyblade12 It doesn't need to be an explosive success, it just needs to bring in more money than it costs to run. It's no surprise Amazon would be hesitant to to attempt to make another big time game when their last one was a complete failure.
Amazon games is "let's make games since we have so much money" but no one knows how to make games, nor are they allowed to use any of the money.
We will see in a year or so. If they have still failed by then, then okay. But the beta gameplay suggests otherwise.
spears are best medieval weapon. in the immortal words of Shad, "BIG STICK ENERGY!" Edit: also you just jinxed yourself there with the hope that Spiff won't get you to do something dumb as repayment.
I am all for Spiff making him join up and take control of the economy of this game.
Shat
I'm not part of the MMO crowd, I'm just here to watch you roast Bezos on occasion. Very enjoyable video either way
You, sir, have the best RUclips crossover game I've seen in the gaming world and I love it.
I've narrowed my issues with the flow and feel of combat inputs down to one thing: You cannot overlap or "pre-load" the next action you plan on performing, and this leads to awkward situations like pressing down the left mouse button to wind up a heavy attack too early, making the input not register. You could easily solve this with some sort of action queue, and it would probably (if done right) make combat feel buttery smooth.
I never had any of the server lag issues mentioned (in fact, it was probably one of the smoothest experiences I've had considering I could easily time blocks and whatnot), but I might just be lucky (EU player).
All in all, aside from my issues with the flow and feel of combat I actually enjoyed it quite a bit.
the action queue duration probably doesn't even have to be long, something like half a second should already make the combat feel much smoother
True, this is actually my main problem with how the combat feels. I find it especially annoying with the bow. Firing off multiple shots in quick succession is highly annoying and inconsistent.
This is called input buffering
@@cyan_2169 Thanks, I suspected there was a better name for it than a skill queue (since that sort of implies that you can let it maybe queue 4 skills or something).
Yeah I agree with that they need to allow you to dodge for example while attacking
3:13 Lovely how your character had the time to change cloths while drowning.
I wonder if Jeffy boy Bezos EVEN knows about this game.
Apparently he really wants to make a successful game that draws more people into Amazon Prime so he can sell more stuff like Amazon Luna. So I guess he at least roughly knows what his game department is working on.. maybe.
@@Stunex He probably knows his studio is making one of those games what are multiplayer. I doubt he knows any of the specifics.
started day 1, quit during the Dupe/Auction house shut down. Came back and got to 60 today.
"It looks like I'm skiing with one ski."
No idea why, I fucking burst out laughing hard at that.
Pre-orders are fully refundable no matter how much time you put in the beta. The beta in its entirety is effectively free if you have $40.
So it isn't free then........
@@AngelFluff723 I just put in my refund request.
@@AngelFluff723 there aren't too many things you can buy, use for potentially a hundredish hours and get a full refund. Key words are 'effectively' and 'if'. It's not monetarily free it's free of risk and commitment.
This game
Does 100%
look like a game, that i will not spend a singular cent on.
Free Access to Prime members is the way to go IMO.
@@handler8838 wait is there??
@@MarisCorner15 no just wishful thinking, but they should do like Xbox who gives you access to games with a monthly pass
Just saying im sure someone has pirated the game already
Cool, your loss brah
After enjoying this game the last days, i couldnt stop laughing half the time while watching this. hope you get better luck on your servers!
_"A giant open space doesn't mean anything if there's nothing to happen in that space."_
*WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU STAR CITIZEN PLANETS...*
The issue isn't really their servers, it's their game engine. The fps lag spikes I got seemed to be because the game would often try to do too much in the very next frame instead of distributing to the next several frames based on priority, or by letting certain tasks carry over frames without holding up the framerate (which could technically just be an oversight in their coding). Also, a lot of the bugs I saw just wouldn't be as easy to mistakenly let through in most modern game engines like unreal engine or unity.
15:50 the PvP actually looks really fun. PvE aspect seems really grindy, but PvP seems so have a pretty high skill cap. The dodge aspect makes it possible for a fairly high level difference to be made up by skill alone.
1v1 wear light armor for rolling dodges; pvp raids/battles wear heavy since you'll never know where all the headshots are coming from and thus cannot dodge them.
I have been so completely uninterested in New World ever since I first saw it. I don't know what everyone else sees in it, it feels so generic to me. It's all so... inoffensive, so infuriatingly average. It almost feels like a bit cleaner version of Conan Exiles.
it feels generic because this is the end product of applying the most corporate work style from the most corporate-like corporation. Polished and checks off a lot of feature lists....but ultimately lacks life. Basically make a product that is proven and "safe" and doesn't take any kind of risk, just throw a lot of money at it, and it should be a return on investment. That's the corporate motto.
Don't play it then, simple.
I would advise anyone to go and watch the 100s of hours of game footage on twitch and other youtubers to get a more accurate and positive view of this game. Most people had a blast with this beta. The company doesn't have a trillion dollars behind it. It was said several times that they have a 500 million dollar budget. They are aware of the stability issues and have stated so. They extended launch another 30 days to work on it. Server stability is a VERY common issue in mmo betas. I wouldn't judge a NA game by how lag a EU player had during a stress test beta. I crashed 3 or 4 times the first day and the 11 other days were butter. Amazon is really trying to make this game work. I was skeptical too but when I saw the amount of effort and they way they listened to the players in a 9 month period I was impressed. You want an honest review go watch KiraTV New World beta review.
I smell a fanboy...
If it is a good MMO or not doesnt really matter at this point, it doesn’t offer anything that you can’t already get out of so many other MMOs. Yea it looks nice an is newer but is there any reason for most players to leave their current MMO for this one? Most likely not. It doesn’t seem like there is any reason for PvE players to switch out of their established games to come here and us sweatier PvP players don’t have a reason either to switch. Some ppl may like this game and that’s ok but it’s nothing new or even slightly different than most other MMOs
@@NatoRadeX Nah I just like honest reviews and I don't like bad info being passed around. You are probably the same way.
@@coreybroussard5264 I never said it was groundbreaking or the next baby Jesus . I had fun playing it. Even though it has pve.This is a pvp game. People WILL and HAVE left Archeage and BDO and BnS to play because the others went p2w. This game isn't trying to hijack WoW and FF14 weebs. Why do people always think in either/or terms. You don't have to leave shit to play this.It has no sub fee and it doesn't have raid/gear progression to get left behind in. Why not just add another fun game to your library?And since when is:not bringing anything new to the table: been a deal breaker? Half the shit .mmo and single player ,indie and AAA, has been nothing but the same cloned shit since Dark Souls , Skyrim and Assassins Creed came out. Most of the shit that came out this year was nothing innovative and you still bought that huh?
At 11:00 I really felt what he said about being free to travel anywhere because when I was level 2 I wound up in a level 20 swamp and an alligator one-shot me
Josh and Spiffing Brit would be the most ambitious anime crossover ever. I'm not sure if we can even handle that amount of raw power!
Been watching a few hours of streaming on twitch and I still dont understand where the hype is coming from.
One word "Amazon"
This is how i feel about FF14 and this game. Im intrigued by this game tho, because it kinda reminds me of osrc mixed with DS
@@wesx1787.Might not be your cup of tea but there's plenty of stuff in FF to justify hype, there's a game there, New World seems just... barren. A scuffed mash up of Rust, Runescape and Dark Souls. Tho to be fair even if NW was more complete it wouldn't be my thing.
@@wesx1787 what i find intriguing is people who refuse to respect the amount of time and effort put into 14 by the devs to make it a good game because "muh anime". we get it. you don't like jrpgs. that doesn't mean 14 is somehow now comparable to this alleged mmo that amazon has kindly horked out into the mmo market so we all can see what a terrible bootleg DS game would look like if produced by a soulless multi-trillion dollar corporation that doesn't give even half a turd about what makes video games enjoyable.
@@wesx1787 its not for everyone but if you enjoy good storytelling, good worldbuilding and good fantasy characters ff14 is amazing. The story legitimately reminds me of game of thrones. Its sooo good
I've played many MMOs and I can confidently say that this is definitely one of them.
Yes, it is indeed an MMO
@@BroadwayRonMexico Mediocre Multiplayer Online :p
@@BroadwayRonMexico Mass Media Online? :D
I can't not agree..
I love how the whole video is just a random rant about Jeff Bezos going to space and Amazon being a trillion dollar company 😂
Yeah extremely stupid. Supposed to be talking about an MMO and the dumb sh*t is just talking about some guy and a company that doesn’t holistically have anything to do with the gaming side of things. Terrible video.
@@johnhill762 damn looks like someone has selective hearing
I love the invisible scooter mount!
Thanks Lindybeige! I laughed so hard, I might have scared the neighbors
As someone who's been playing the beta and is around level 17, I feel like your assessment is pretty fair. I would say that the game's skilling/crafting system might be worth playing for, because it treads the line between being overly-complicated and overly-simplistic pretty well, advancing in it would take a long time and could have some unexpected rewards. The combat is a bit janky, but not bad, and I hope they'll keep iterating on it because I really don't like tab target games and this has been a breath of fresh air. I can definitely see myself getting at least $40 of enjoyment out of it, and that's without even having touched the pvp and territory control aspect yet.
Looks like a whole lot of pop-in on the draw distance, don't understand how he didn't notice that and comment on it in the video. The gameplay itself looks like something really dated. Doesn't honestly seem like anything better than unleashed online outside of the better graphics and better hit boxes during combat. Not something I'd actually pay money for when there's not much more going for it than alot of F2P MMOs.
"But unlike more modern character creation engines there are no sliders..."
Me: *Glances over at Cyberpunk 2077* >_>
cp runs on the custom in house red engine tho
@@The93Momo93 Yep, that super advanced, custom engine that...doesn't meet to modern conventions of basic character creation XD
@@Gakusangi true, all it has going for it are the looks it can produce, everything else is a regression compared to how it was used in the witcher 3
Huh, not where I would have expected to see a Lindybeige shout-out.
To explain a game based off the first like 6 levels is just idiotic! first,terrible lag can and will be related to server specific issues with mass amount of people on day 1. I have NOT experienced anything like this guy has! The gameplay has been smooth and the world is very inviting. The gameplay mechanics are excellent and feels refreshing and wanting to come back for more! I can really say whole heartedly after 20 plus levels in the beta that I can not wait to see what end game content is about and as long as it can capture what I am looking for PVE wise,I will be playing it for years to come!
You didn't heard? It's 2K21 lad. Shittalking to people without opinion is the best way to hype up yourself on RUclips. Majority of the people are now just parrots. Zombies following a horde of other zombies.
Take a shot every time he makes a joke about Jeff going to space. After 26 times it starts to get slightly old
Is that hyperbole or did i actually make 26 jokes?
You are NOT just paying $40 for the New World beta. The actual game is also included into that bundle, Mr. Hayes.
Hey fun fact Jeff Bezos could literally end world hunger
They will never help anyone without an ulterior motive. They say "we will end world hunger, if you give us all the power". Sounds totally legit lel
Fun fact: Scarcity is a myth
Well you see this is very immature and naive because you're thinking of his net worth and not the amount of cash he has and if he was completely liquid, who would deliver my sex toys within 24 hours of ordering them?
Fun fact you have the same 24 hours in a day as him, so go head and make money and end world hunger.
Even with just using the methods of whole foods plus the infrastructure of Amazon they could end hunger in most places just by stopping food waste
I'm right at the end of the beta and there's a few concerns I'll add.
1. Getting to max level seems to easy. Yeah, there were people cramming because of the time limit, but there are too many who are in the 50s and 60.
2. The PvE content kinda drops off. There are places to mini-raid and that's it.
3. The world is worth exploring because of the visuals, but that's it. There's nothing hidden away. Just there's a rock with a ? on it. Is it a mini-raid or an empty landmark.
It just.... feels a bit empty TBH.
Now I haven't head north to the real PvE raids. And I haven't gotten far in the crafting, so maybe that's a bit chunkier content, but I've seen about 80% of what the landmass has to offer, because of the nature of starting in so many possible locations, everything is a duplicate.
Correct me if im wrong, but theyve already said the xp will be lowered and was this fast because of the beta time limit. Also there is content hidden behind quests/objects not put in the beta (thorpe in shattered plains etc). Also there is about as much lvl 60 content as there is 1-59 imo.
If I had that bezos cash, I'd go to space too, but with a space station that spells my name
Being fairly dumb when it comes to complex combat systems, the simple system presented here is actually appealing to me.
Don't sweat the haters. I know how much work each video is for a content creator. I appreciate all the effort and videos. Top notch! Interested in your views on this one.
Yeah so much work hating on game after game with no creativity.
You know what would actually be work? Creating an original video idea and entertaining your audience.
Instead he jumps from game to game to spread hatred and his loser fanbase eat it up like the losers they are.
@@xXSinForLifeXx
Exactly. Losers watching a loser content creator.
Stopped watching at 7:12 cause it's getting annoying.
Can you just talk about the game instead of trying to throw jabs at Jeff and amazon every 3 minutes.
Cause it's so irrelevant and adds nothing to the critique of the game.
And it's also like. Amazon has a whole is a trillion dollar company, but Amazon Games Studio is not. Can you stop saying "Trillion dollar company good" Cause that's a red herring.
This video feels more like "I hate amazon and jeff" rather than "An honest critique of the game"
Jeff smurf account lmao
Definitely needs some more work. Still, one of the best I have played in a long time. Looking forward to your thoughts.
That’s some low standards
Gotta say the game is actually really fucking enjoyable
its trash and bland... like there is no content... overall design is trash as well
FF14 set the standard way Hight ... these mmo looks cheap and trash as hell to play
@@Userdoesnotexit FF14 also expects 10 euro a month and a purchase of dlc which personally I do not enjoy, there is actually alot of content and combat yeah it aint perfect but it is good and more fun than tab targeting. I can see where your pov comes from though
@@Userdoesnotexit if there is any game that "looks" trash it's FF14 looks like something I would play on my phone and with the most shit UI and full of weebs. Also new world is not really made for someone that likes WOW or FF14 because those are story and PVE focused games and this is pretty much only PVP focused with a new combat system that's nothing like the traditional MMO style systems.
Tried both WOW and FF14 but I actually fall asleep after 10 quests those two are actually the worsts MMOs on the market and I don't understand why ppl love them.
okay so, I played this back during the alpha testing and that running bug was not there. What little I can say bc of the NDA was that the phase I tested in was fun. Heavy in grinding a bit as far as resource gathering and leveling, and I definitely wouldn't have enjoyed it as much if I hadn't found a group that scored land and invited me to join them. There was an entire player class made for solo survivalists that could with a bit more work manage completely without needing the crafting stations or crafting classes used by Companies (Guilds), and people seemed to do really well in it, but there were a LOT of griefers that liked to run around naked in groups. They used a criminal status item loss on death system to punish murder, but if you just ran around naked with a wooden spear you had nothing to lose. We didn't suffer from server fragility or lag, BUT we had a smaller server cap size and the worlds themselves were smaller.
Gathering was funny but if you joined at server start but not immediately as they opened, you got fucked on starting quests because all the resources you needed to gather for starting items was completely stripped down. Any bush that respawned would get stripped fast and some of them like trees would take a while to respawn so the environment completely changed one day when it was full of foliage and trees and made me super lost.
The game was INCREDIBLY impressive to many of us, but people who got invited back to later phases of the alpha testing, even the one right after mine, said the game changed. A lot. And most of them were not going to buy the game if that was what it was going to be like.
"So we silently skate up to that boar" hahaha im dead xDDD