The only one he didn't truly overcome was Hector. In the end Hector dragged Gus into a bloody inferno, and that was probably the best moment in Hector's life in years. It must've been Gus's worst moment too, knowing for a split second Hector (and walter) got the last laugh over him.
Hector was merely a useful tool to Walter, but yes, he did get the final catharsis. But had Gus not shown his hatred to Jesse and by proxy Walt, Hector would have been trapped in a hell for the rest of his days, with no hope of ever defeating Gus.
It’s even worse because he could’ve just let Hector die when Nacho swapped his pills, but Gus saved him so he could torture him. But in the end, Gus hated Hector so much that I really don’t think he would’ve changed that much if he had another chance. Telling a helpless Hector how he killed everyone probably brought him more joy than actually killing the Salamanca’s and Cartel
In life, and in death, Gustavo Fring still won. Even though he died, the Salamanca name ultimately ended, even if he died with the last member of that family.
@@lukeladin She isn't tho, when Jimmy asks Lalo about abuelita, Lalo looks at the mirror for a moment, clearly upset, she probably passed sometime after the scam.
@@aname8832 Wow, looks like you're right! I always thought it's Joaquin - that he survived Mike's strangling and then shot Mike in revenge. That would have been better, because that would be Jesse killing someone who had almost sniped him. Thanks for the info!
I wouldn’t say the smartest, I’d say the most capable. He was brutal like tuco, smart like hector, and as deadly as the twins. He definitely would’ve been the next leader of the Salamanca family
Gus vs Lalo was a big mindgame, but it ended in the two of them shooting at each other in the dark, which could've gone either way. It proved Lalo was every bit Gus' equal, and it just came down to a lucky bullet to the neck.
Ye, it was pretty stupid. A smart and cunning character like lalo gets killed in the dark by a lucky shot. It's a good thing gus has the best kind of armour, PLOT ARMOUR!!!
@Alliinase well let's face it, if lalo had body armour it still wouldn't have mattered because he was shot in the neck. So ye gus had the best kind of armour, plot armour.
The only plot armor he had was that Lalo didn't just blast him but it's already been established that Lalo needs info on Gus before he can kill him. It's not plot armor as much as it's pure luck. Either of them, could've died right there.
@yung_wise5861 but ur forgetting it wasn't going to be either one of them and I'm fine with that we knew lalo was going to die, but the way he went out was just total plot armour. Gus killed lalo from a lucky shot in the dark he has never fired a gun, but somehow he magical aims a fatal blow to someone like lalo. Even if lalo had body armour he still would died, the whole scene is riddled with plot armour or LUCK as u call it.
I think what you're forgetting about Joaquin is that if Jesse had not been present, Gustavo and Mike would have died in Mexico. Joaquin got the drop on Mike with a shot that left him unable to even raise his gun in retaliation while Gustavo was barely conscious from the Zafiro. It was Gustavo's manipulation of Jesse by bringing him in close that inadvertently saved his his life (for another week or two at least).
You cooked Heisenberg's formula? What a sick joke! Skinny Pete I can handle, but Skinny Pete with Chemistry Know How is like a Chimp with a Machine Gun!
@@Fairenough642 "ye as if that ever even mattered, gus planned too kill everyone anyway if he can bring mike why not another bodyguard or two" Maybe bringing that much muscle would have raised suspicion. But bringing one security guy and the cook, that's not a problem.
What do you mean he wouldn't have the idea? He knew it was Gus and Nacho. Lalo was incredibly intelligent, and unlike any other Salamanca he went against. Hector was reckless and understood blood for money and only money. The charisma Lalo had was actually haunting and made him a scary character. I was actually hoping somehow he would live.
I think Gus is just such an interesting character. Almost everyone sees him as an emotionless machine who only cares about business. But deep down he had such incredible vengeance and hatred he effectively tortured hector for 20+ years.
It was 7 years between Kim leaving Saul and their phone call, so Hector was in the wheelchair probably around the same time since the pill switch happened around 2 years before she left and Gus death probably also around 2 years before Saul called Kim.
@@The_Bigot he tortured him in other ways, pollos being super successful which set up better distribution he was the moneymaker in the cartel, hector was losing the cartel’s respect even though he was one of the founders, hector slowly slipped away from power figuratively and literally until he’s just a witness to his surroundings
He only tortured Hector for 8 years, maybe 10 tops. Breaking Bad takes place between 2008 and 2010, but Fring was dead by 2009. Hector's stroke happens in about 2003.
I actually think in an alternative ending, had Lalo not been his in character egotistical self. Gus could've very easily gotten screwed over by Lalo revealing he was alive to Eladio, with them then potentially trapping Gus, Mike and potentially Kim & Saul with them.
Wow. I didn’t realize that but that is TOTALLY the reason why Hector won’t look Gus in the eyes. Doesn’t wanna give away any other ideas lol that’s so damn crazy. These shows are just 10/10
The best part of the Lalo fight at the end is that it really shows the difference between their mentalities: Gus is incredibly perceptive, but he always keeps everything to himself until he knows exactly what he plans to do, meaning that when he suspects that Lalo is in the room with them, he tries to figure out where Lalo went before acting, INSTEAD OF TELLING HIS GUARDS!
One Salamanca truly overcame Gus. Although Lalo was the most dangerous, and hector was the most influential; the real mastermind behind all Salamanca stuff and the one that overcame Gus was Abuelita.
When did show ever admit that Gus and Max were lovers? I heard the Salamancas throw that at Gus as an insult but that wouldn't make it true. And Gus had kids and I believe a wife too.
@@jonothandoeser he never had kids or a wife, he lied about that to Walt to gain Walt's trust. When Jesse comes over later all the childrens stuff is gone and no wife is mentioned. It was a theory that Max has Gus's lover in BrBa, but it was entirely confirmed in Better Call Saul season 6 episode 9
He may have won the battle against Hector, but he lost the war. Hector’s life was over, and he got to end his suffering and take Gus with him. Hector died happy, and he was the ultimate winner of their feud.
eh would say it was a draw technically. Hector took out gus(although gus did technically outlive him by a few seconds) and gus ended the salamanca bloodline and also got his revenge. Both parties got revenge one way or another
@@epicfan1598exactly they both achieved their ultimate goals. I honestly give Gus a slight edge bc from the very beginning, all of his complex and pragmatic planning worked flawlessly. All the way up until the very last step of his revenge. The plan was to kill hectors entire family, destroy their entire cartel, and leave hector alive to see it all happen. And he achieved all of it. Except the finishing move.
Seeing all of the Salamanca’s lose to Gus makes Walter’s victory all the more impressive. Even with the mental Gymnastics Gus had to perform to defeat Lalo, it still wasn’t enough to beat Walter.
Thats only because gus underestimated walter. Lalo was a high ranking drug trafficker who had none of the other Salamanca's weaknesses. He was powerful. Walter...was an amateur and a high school chemist
And even then he only lost because he got careless, and didnt see walt as a noteworthy threat. If he took Walter seriously, season 4 would end in episode 3 or 4 with Mr. White dying in a sabotaged car crash or something like that. Then againp, "he's smarter than you, he's luckier than you"
After Lalo, the twins were probably Gus' next biggest threat, and Honestly the way the twins' attack on Hank lead to both twins dying and the raid on Bolsa was just pure luck. Idk how Gus would've planned a way to kill off the twins without the DEA involved.
I feel like Eladio was almost testing Gus's willingness to disrespect the cartel with his little joke at Hector's expense. Gus could have easily seen that Eladio didn't respect the elder Salamanca as a moment to betray his own feelings. In sociopaths this is called "duper's delight"--kind of like what Gus felt when he was torturing Hector with details of his plot--and Eladio is nothing if not a sociopathic master manipulator, so he would pick up on Gus's tell. But Gus didn't fall for it b/c he's too smart for that. Ultimately the only person who proved to be more dangerous than Gus was Walter White, because his criminal mentality is highly spontaneous and in the moment, abetted by scientific genius. While Gus is a much more linear, poker-playing type of mastermind, who extends his influence everywhere and lays traps everywhere.
Lol Gus is so obviously gay, like why would this even be a debate? The gay question doesn't come up for any other character. He went on a twenty-year Machiavellian crusade against his own employers just to avenge Max. TV series don't have to be as deliberate as Omar from The Wire about the sexual identity of their characters, as evolved adults we should be able to grasp shit like this on our own
@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 I guess what he means there is not much to do with him at a younger age, for example the arc with the twins and Lalo, it would had been nice to have a mention of him.
@@Pottasium92 yep, joaquin was probably learning from the sidelines, salamancas value their family a lot i don’t think they’d send a young one to do tasks that would likely get them killed
@@richardshiflett5181 Walter was the most dangerous character in both shows, he single handedly destroyed everything and left nothing in the end, no other character has done that, not even Lalo as smart and dangerously capable he is couldn’t take Hector out, but Walter did, he did that and much more
The thing is that he pretty much wastes everyone in a short and simple manner except for Hector who he left wheelchair bound and crippled for at least 5 years. I don't know why he had such a huge vandetta against Hector in particular when Bolsa and Eladio were also responsible
@@dr.aisaitl7439 Hector put a bullet into his partner's head and forced him to lay next to his corpse while saying "you did this to him" so there's that. Also Bolsa and Eladio were south of the border and the bosses of the whole cartel, so it was harder to reach them or to kill them without getting heat on himself. For Bolsa he had to have the Federal Police take him down and for Eladio he had to poison the entire cartel.
@@juanin200 @arawn1061 Bruh they were all in on it and it was 100% decided beforehand that Max would die. Watch the scene, Bolsa forces him to look at his partner. Eladio is also in charge of the cartel so Hector wouldn't kill him without his approval I'm just saying that Bolsa and Eladio got off very lightly compared to Hector where their deaths were short and relatively painless. Gus is a meticulous planner and if you've seen BCS, he is able to get a whole swat team in Mexico. I feel like they really could have captured Eladio by doing an ambush on that party or something
@@dr.aisaitl7439 Tbf the hector torture sess pretty much fell into his lap because of Nacho. The fact that hector taunted him over it probably didn't help
Half of this video about Gus taking down the Salamanca's was just about lalo , that is both scary (because it shows that the smartest villan in the breaking bad universe met his match) and kinda baffling cuz I'm sure hector punishment took a lot more time even tho it's so simple.
I just want to point out that Tuco was not murdered as was stated in the video. He was justifiably killed in self defense by Hank. By definition not murder.
Gus would have gotten away with everything, if he didn't show his biggest weakness - his need to be over the Salamancas. That one weakness gave Walter the means to take him out in explosive fashion. That was it. Gus had won. He was the drug kingpin. And he lost it all with one single mistake that only served to fuel his own ego.
you're a truly underratted youtuber i thought u would have atleast 100k with these indepth vids keep going i love ur analysis of the characters actions
The salamanca family are scary as fuck. You cannot take them on all at once. Imagine lalo ask help to his cousins to take down Gus. They will be unstoppable.
SPOILER ALERT! Gus did not overcome every Salamanca so close to the finish line the overconfidence that he had avoided before came back to haunt him, he underestimated Walter White and he overlooked Hector's hate for him and his willingness to give up his own life just to kill him. His brash bravado and cockiness cost him his lover's life and ultimately in the end it was his downfall.
Yep. Their very behavior that allowed him to overcome the rest of them, their compulsive arrogance making them predictable, took him down at the hand of the behavior that he had to win, calculated self control.
That's hilarious. The last living Salamanca capable of taking the business, a man who was just denied a drink that was given to literally everyone in the room- capable to taking the business- right there. Decides to get himself killed
Nah. The guy got the drop on Mike too fast for Mike to do anything and Gus was already too weak to act because of the poison. The only reason that Gus and Mike survived was because they brung Jesse with them.
@@woppagangnamstyle he shot at them. He coulda slid out the moment people started dying and just picked up the pieces. It's not like Gus would keep his presence in Mexico that was all just for revenge haha. Gus even gave them the chance. And then he came to shopt
@@psychoticdaizyproductions569 If he did escape then he wouldn't have any pieces left to pick. Pretty sure the police confiscated the valuables the moment they came to the house. The only way that he could maybe keep up the business is if there was another place where Salamanca's hid their money,and we don't know if that's true or not.
@@SneakerShet kinda makes me think eladio doing his ‘dingdingding ding ding ding’ making fun of Hector is supposed to draw to when hector kills his with a bunch of songs. But maybe I’m seeing something that’s not there
@@DunsfordFarnsworth they never do nothing for no reason that ding ding ding ding is a foreshadowing to gus death. Eladio would've lived if he would've listened to don Hector. The writers did an outstanding job with both shows. Masterpieces
Season 6 never explained why Tuco suddenly ran away. Instead spending too much time on sandpiper case which should be over in season 4. So yeah, Tuco wasn't mowed down by Gus.
8:52 ALL THIS IS TOO AMAZING!!!! I'm out of breath, he's so smart that he even used Saul's legendary persuasion against him, he knew how they would react and made it feel like a natural progression. That's just pure genius. The mind game in this showdown is anime level.
@@Matthew-oq1hx I'm pretty sure slitting someone's throat with a box cutter dirties up the hands more than pulling a trigger. Unless you're talking about how Gus had to actually defend himself instead of making an example out of Victor
Gus had one opponent greater than any other salamanca, abuela salamanca was truly a force of nature he could only defeat with hundreds of back up plans and fail-safes. Bravo Vince, for making a character even Gus Fring feared
I think it’s possible Gus figured if he didn’t bother with Tuco, Don Eladio would of taken care of him since he wasn’t the kind of guy you could trust to be in charge and get away with it he wasn’t very smart had a hot temper and was an addict Don Eladio probably would of had him killed and replaced.
Tuco was never a "threat" to Gus in any sense of the word... Tuco was a reckless hot head meth head who was so far beneath Gus, you can tell Tuco had self destructive tendancies so Gus never needed to take him out
Tuco was literally about to save the cartel and beat gus by making walter work for the cartel. If walter and jesse went with tuco to Mexico then gus plan would have failed and the cartel would have no use for him
The situation between Gus and Hector really reminds me of Captain Ahab trying to hunt his white whale that crippled him. In the end, he dies because of it. But so does the whale.
Gus was like the Looney Tunes Roadrunner, taking down Wile E. Coyote’s entire family. Which is to say, Gus is cartoon character who defies the laws of nature to do the impossible and thus entertains us to the extent we suspend disbelief and accept fiction as being real. The Coyote Family takes it in the chin because Wile E and the others are subject to the laws of nature. Neat trick.
I’m sure Gus always had a vest on and other means of overprotection. We just saw him set it up bc of Lalo. It was always there after. He’s not dealing with shoplifters here.
Sweet thorough + well-targeted breakdown 👏 but super weird how you cut off your vids at the end of your last sentence… not bad just different + surprising
I'm not too familiar with the better call saul part of his story but personally I always liked Gus. I remember watching the show for the 1st time and kind of hoping he came out on top. Between him and Mike they had a decent operation going, for what it was anyway.
I do love that the final fight between Lalo and Gus isn't really a fight. That would imply there was some level of skill applied in it, but there wasn't. In the end, the final encounter between Gus and Lalo was one of complete chance, two equals firing away at each other in the dark. Realistically it could have either gone way, and it could have been Lalo walking out of there if he had just aimed slightly differently. Really sells that the two were complete equals, and after Lalo died the Salamancas had nobody who could stand up to him causing to their, causing their rapid destruction.
Ah, But Gus just couldn't overcome Hector. Also, Gus really shouldn't have overcame Lalo either. Lalo was probably the most professional and dangerous character out of everybody
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lil bit of a follow up from the Nacho video - thought it would be interesting to look at after the events of 6x08.
wait is this the only reply?
@@hackerman4436 no.
@@ininjaa5587 nooooooo
the legion is kinda op ngl
Look at me hectir
The only one he didn't truly overcome was Hector. In the end Hector dragged Gus into a bloody inferno, and that was probably the best moment in Hector's life in years. It must've been Gus's worst moment too, knowing for a split second Hector (and walter) got the last laugh over him.
Hector was merely a useful tool to Walter, but yes, he did get the final catharsis. But had Gus not shown his hatred to Jesse and by proxy Walt, Hector would have been trapped in a hell for the rest of his days, with no hope of ever defeating Gus.
It’s even worse because he could’ve just let Hector die when Nacho swapped his pills, but Gus saved him so he could torture him.
But in the end, Gus hated Hector so much that I really don’t think he would’ve changed that much if he had another chance. Telling a helpless Hector how he killed everyone probably brought him more joy than actually killing the Salamanca’s and Cartel
Gus should've handled Hector when he had the chance
After all the mental torture- nobody won that day
Gus did overcome hector for a majority of the show. Although the one time Gus let him out of his sight for to long it came back to bite him
In life, and in death, Gustavo Fring still won. Even though he died, the Salamanca name ultimately ended, even if he died with the last member of that family.
Technically, he died outside of the room. My man hated Hector so much that he had to die in the hallway rather than with Hector
@@deadpan904 stolen comment 💀
Abuelita Salamanca is still alive from what I know tho
@@lukeladin shh don't say that, she controls everything from the shadows.
@@lukeladin She isn't tho, when Jimmy asks Lalo about abuelita, Lalo looks at the mirror for a moment, clearly upset, she probably passed sometime after the scam.
Finally Joaquin is acknowledged for existing
and nothing more
Joaquin also sniped few people outside Gus' chicken farm. Almost killed Jesse. And then Jesse's the one who kills him.
@@liberalatheist I like to headcanon that’s him but it’s a different character named gaff.
@@aname8832 Wow, looks like you're right! I always thought it's Joaquin - that he survived Mike's strangling and then shot Mike in revenge. That would have been better, because that would be Jesse killing someone who had almost sniped him. Thanks for the info!
joaquin salamanca and rickon stark are the same person
Gus vs Lalo is basically the quiet kid vs the funny kid that are both the top honors of the class
Then Walter White is the kid who stole the correction sheet and managed to rise past both of them
@@monkestan9433 hahaha 😂
Best analogy
Tru
Gus is more like the smart kid
Lalo was the smartest of all the Salamancas which is why Gus encountered a lot of difficulties killing him
Gus shit his pants while Lalo is alive. He always kept guns and men with him wearing a bulletproof vest. It all explains how he scared of Lalo!
I wouldn’t say the smartest, I’d say the most capable. He was brutal like tuco, smart like hector, and as deadly as the twins. He definitely would’ve been the next leader of the Salamanca family
@@robertstephens7251 So he's the smartest?... Who do you think is smarter? Hector?
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@@dudududu1926 hector was definitely not the smartest.
Gus vs Lalo was a big mindgame, but it ended in the two of them shooting at each other in the dark, which could've gone either way. It proved Lalo was every bit Gus' equal, and it just came down to a lucky bullet to the neck.
Ye, it was pretty stupid. A smart and cunning character like lalo gets killed in the dark by a lucky shot. It's a good thing gus has the best kind of armour, PLOT ARMOUR!!!
@@alexcross7583That and body armour, which Lalo didn't bother with
@Alliinase well let's face it, if lalo had body armour it still wouldn't have mattered because he was shot in the neck. So ye gus had the best kind of armour, plot armour.
The only plot armor he had was that Lalo didn't just blast him but it's already been established that Lalo needs info on Gus before he can kill him. It's not plot armor as much as it's pure luck. Either of them, could've died right there.
@yung_wise5861 but ur forgetting it wasn't going to be either one of them and I'm fine with that we knew lalo was going to die, but the way he went out was just total plot armour. Gus killed lalo from a lucky shot in the dark he has never fired a gun, but somehow he magical aims a fatal blow to someone like lalo. Even if lalo had body armour he still would died, the whole scene is riddled with plot armour or LUCK as u call it.
I think what you're forgetting about Joaquin is that if Jesse had not been present, Gustavo and Mike would have died in Mexico. Joaquin got the drop on Mike with a shot that left him unable to even raise his gun in retaliation while Gustavo was barely conscious from the Zafiro. It was Gustavo's manipulation of Jesse by bringing him in close that inadvertently saved his his life (for another week or two at least).
Yea but they might have brought a different guy instead idk
You cooked Heisenberg's formula? What a sick joke!
Skinny Pete I can handle, but Skinny Pete with Chemistry Know How is like a Chimp with a Machine Gun!
@@Fairenough642 No
@@randomname5646 ye as if that ever even mattered, gus planned too kill everyone anyway if he can bring mike why not another bodyguard or two
@@Fairenough642 "ye as if that ever even mattered, gus planned too kill everyone anyway if he can bring mike why not another bodyguard or two"
Maybe bringing that much muscle would have raised suspicion. But bringing one security guy and the cook, that's not a problem.
Lalo's biggest mistake was letting Hector know he was still alive. If he didn't, Gus would have been dead.
La familia es todo
What do you mean he wouldn't have the idea? He knew it was Gus and Nacho. Lalo was incredibly intelligent, and unlike any other Salamanca he went against. Hector was reckless and understood blood for money and only money. The charisma Lalo had was actually haunting and made him a scary character. I was actually hoping somehow he would live.
@@thatguyonline5083 dom toretto would be proud
yeah that was stupid
@ChabooeyHe was in a pretty good spot until Hector let it slip to Gus.
I think Gus is just such an interesting character. Almost everyone sees him as an emotionless machine who only cares about business. But deep down he had such incredible vengeance and hatred he effectively tortured hector for 20+ years.
Hector wasn’t in the wheelchair for 20 years
It was 7 years between Kim leaving Saul and their phone call, so Hector was in the wheelchair probably around the same time since the pill switch happened around 2 years before she left and Gus death probably also around 2 years before Saul called Kim.
Yes and no, Giancarlo Esposito is like Gus for every of his roles.
@@The_Bigot he tortured him in other ways, pollos being super successful which set up better distribution he was the moneymaker in the cartel, hector was losing the cartel’s respect even though he was one of the founders, hector slowly slipped away from power figuratively and literally until he’s just a witness to his surroundings
He only tortured Hector for 8 years, maybe 10 tops. Breaking Bad takes place between 2008 and 2010, but Fring was dead by 2009. Hector's stroke happens in about 2003.
in an alternative ending Lalo would’ve just stayed in Germany and married mrs Ziegler lol
Or fled to Fargo and replaced Mr. Tripoli as the head of the Fargo Mob.
I actually think in an alternative ending, had Lalo not been his in character egotistical self. Gus could've very easily gotten screwed over by Lalo revealing he was alive to Eladio, with them then potentially trapping Gus, Mike and potentially Kim & Saul with them.
Mrs. Ziegler is really a knock-out.
Zieeeeeeeegleeeeeerrr
I just imagined Lalo & Mrs Ziegler in bedroom.
And as he's about to come, he screams WERNER ZIIIEEEEEGGGLLLERRR !
multiple times.
lol
Wow. I didn’t realize that but that is TOTALLY the reason why Hector won’t look Gus in the eyes. Doesn’t wanna give away any other ideas lol that’s so damn crazy. These shows are just 10/10
shame from feeling defeated played the part at most on why hector did that. but this def adds a whole new interesting layer on that.
It was also just disrespect
The best part of the Lalo fight at the end is that it really shows the difference between their mentalities: Gus is incredibly perceptive, but he always keeps everything to himself until he knows exactly what he plans to do, meaning that when he suspects that Lalo is in the room with them, he tries to figure out where Lalo went before acting, INSTEAD OF TELLING HIS GUARDS!
One Salamanca truly overcame Gus. Although Lalo was the most dangerous, and hector was the most influential; the real mastermind behind all Salamanca stuff and the one that overcame Gus was Abuelita.
True Abuelita = GOAT and the only salamanca that wasn't killed
Rumor has it that Gus actually survived Hector’s explosion, but Abuelita was there waiting to finish him off with club soda
"Yall ever had gay thoughts? Lmao"
Look at me Gayctor
When did show ever admit that Gus and Max were lovers? I heard the Salamancas throw that at Gus as an insult but that wouldn't make it true.
And Gus had kids and I believe a wife too.
@@jonothandoeser he never had kids or a wife, he lied about that to Walt to gain Walt's trust. When Jesse comes over later all the childrens stuff is gone and no wife is mentioned. It was a theory that Max has Gus's lover in BrBa, but it was entirely confirmed in Better Call Saul season 6 episode 9
@@jordyundieground3270 You mean the the "boyfriend" line in In BCS?
@@jonothandoeser nope, cause that didnt happen in season 6 episode 9. That happened in season 5 episode 1.
in a way Lalo was the trigger for Gus's death. The bell he gave hector acting as a detonator for Walts bomb.
Lalo waving at a strangers kids like they are his own is utterly hilarious
He may have won the battle against Hector, but he lost the war. Hector’s life was over, and he got to end his suffering and take Gus with him. Hector died happy, and he was the ultimate winner of their feud.
eh would say it was a draw technically. Hector took out gus(although gus did technically outlive him by a few seconds) and gus ended the salamanca bloodline and also got his revenge. Both parties got revenge one way or another
Someone old with a last name they are proud of who loses every younger relative does not die happy, you can die while your still alive sadly 😢
@@epicfan1598exactly they both achieved their ultimate goals. I honestly give Gus a slight edge bc from the very beginning, all of his complex and pragmatic planning worked flawlessly. All the way up until the very last step of his revenge. The plan was to kill hectors entire family, destroy their entire cartel, and leave hector alive to see it all happen. And he achieved all of it. Except the finishing move.
Gus never overcame the most powerful member of the Salamanca family, abuelita
That's because Gus knew not even he would be able to stand up to the sheer threat that Abuelita poses
Imagine Lyle and Abuelita teaming up
@@crazybot1125 scary af
Gus overcame Homelander. He is a legend.
Interestingly, the literal translation of "Salamanca" to English is "Homelander."
@@dashx1103no
@@dashx1103 Fake
Seeing all of the Salamanca’s lose to Gus makes Walter’s victory all the more impressive.
Even with the mental Gymnastics Gus had to perform to defeat Lalo, it still wasn’t enough to beat Walter.
or its just bad writing
@@Charles-qu5rz or it’s just making the legend of Walter white even greater than it is
Thats only because gus underestimated walter. Lalo was a high ranking drug trafficker who had none of the other Salamanca's weaknesses. He was powerful. Walter...was an amateur and a high school chemist
It is easier to destroy than build, and Walter is destructive. But for raw destructive power, yeah Walter is DAMN unstoppable.
And even then he only lost because he got careless, and didnt see walt as a noteworthy threat. If he took Walter seriously, season 4 would end in episode 3 or 4 with Mr. White dying in a sabotaged car crash or something like that.
Then againp, "he's smarter than you, he's luckier than you"
After Lalo, the twins were probably Gus' next biggest threat, and Honestly the way the twins' attack on Hank lead to both twins dying and the raid on Bolsa was just pure luck. Idk how Gus would've planned a way to kill off the twins without the DEA involved.
the plan *was* to get the DEA involved
“Waiting to AXE him a question” lol
Really liked both this and the Nacho one. Good stuff!
3:54 Leaving Nacho in charge under Gus's "finger". I saw what you did there 😂😂
Unless there was a small throwaway line that I missed, this inside joke of happend out of nowhere? Why is it a thing?
3:54 under gus' finger, while finger is on the screen I see what you did there
Still haven't overcame Abuelita Salamanca
She is final boss even Gus couldn't overcome
"F*cking Gus"-Hector after Burning his mouth with coffee
I wonder how happy he was when he found out that tuco was killed and he had nothing to do with it?
If they could nail a Gus prequel show this would be the greatest universe of all time
Giancarlo would be too old and they couldn't get anyone else to play him.
Someone younger. It would be set in the 1980s, with flashbacks to the 1970s
@@maxfieldnuckels9075 the guy who played a young Stan edger would be perfect for a young gus
Salamanca prequel. Lalo,tuco and twins. One or two seasons.
But gus literally doesn't talk or show enough emotion to be the main guy in a show. He is a solid side piece that sets up the main guys
With someone like Tuco you don't do anything. Tuco will self destruct on his own as he's an agent of chaos. Those people self emulate eventually
I feel like Eladio was almost testing Gus's willingness to disrespect the cartel with his little joke at Hector's expense. Gus could have easily seen that Eladio didn't respect the elder Salamanca as a moment to betray his own feelings. In sociopaths this is called "duper's delight"--kind of like what Gus felt when he was torturing Hector with details of his plot--and Eladio is nothing if not a sociopathic master manipulator, so he would pick up on Gus's tell. But Gus didn't fall for it b/c he's too smart for that. Ultimately the only person who proved to be more dangerous than Gus was Walter White, because his criminal mentality is highly spontaneous and in the moment, abetted by scientific genius. While Gus is a much more linear, poker-playing type of mastermind, who extends his influence everywhere and lays traps everywhere.
I especially liked how uncomfortable Juan Bolsa looked when Don Eladio was mocking Hector.
Lol Gus is so obviously gay, like why would this even be a debate? The gay question doesn't come up for any other character. He went on a twenty-year Machiavellian crusade against his own employers just to avenge Max. TV series don't have to be as deliberate as Omar from The Wire about the sexual identity of their characters, as evolved adults we should be able to grasp shit like this on our own
Just finished episode 8 of season 6, and that speech gus gave to lalo was so cold🥶
I’m surprised Joaquin didn’t appear in Better Call Saul, even with an actor change.
He’s the youngest, younger than the twins
@@PeeGeeThirteen People join the cartel at a very young age, probably twofold if you're a Salamanca
@@PeeGeeThirteen I don't think there's a legal age requirement to join a cartel lol
@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 I guess what he means there is not much to do with him at a younger age, for example the arc with the twins and Lalo, it would had been nice to have a mention of him.
@@Pottasium92 yep, joaquin was probably learning from the sidelines, salamancas value their family a lot i don’t think they’d send a young one to do tasks that would likely get them killed
“I won.” - Heisenberg
At the cost of an empire. Gus could lead. Walter couldn't
@@richardshiflett5181 Walter was the most dangerous character in both shows, he single handedly destroyed everything and left nothing in the end, no other character has done that, not even Lalo as smart and dangerously capable he is couldn’t take Hector out, but Walter did, he did that and much more
It's kinda sad that if Lalo wouldn't have faked his death so well, Hector just MIGHT have been able to convince Eladio of Gus being a opp
3:53 "under gustavo's finger"
Cuts to mike
Searched for this comment lmao
Sad to think that Gus was the cause of so many problems just because simple revenge wasn't enough for him.
The thing is that he pretty much wastes everyone in a short and simple manner except for Hector who he left wheelchair bound and crippled for at least 5 years. I don't know why he had such a huge vandetta against Hector in particular when Bolsa and Eladio were also responsible
@@dr.aisaitl7439 i mean its Hector that shot hus partner
@@dr.aisaitl7439 Hector put a bullet into his partner's head and forced him to lay next to his corpse while saying "you did this to him" so there's that. Also Bolsa and Eladio were south of the border and the bosses of the whole cartel, so it was harder to reach them or to kill them without getting heat on himself. For Bolsa he had to have the Federal Police take him down and for Eladio he had to poison the entire cartel.
@@juanin200 @arawn1061 Bruh they were all in on it and it was 100% decided beforehand that Max would die. Watch the scene, Bolsa forces him to look at his partner. Eladio is also in charge of the cartel so Hector wouldn't kill him without his approval
I'm just saying that Bolsa and Eladio got off very lightly compared to Hector where their deaths were short and relatively painless. Gus is a meticulous planner and if you've seen BCS, he is able to get a whole swat team in Mexico. I feel like they really could have captured Eladio by doing an ambush on that party or something
@@dr.aisaitl7439 Tbf the hector torture sess pretty much fell into his lap because of Nacho. The fact that hector taunted him over it probably didn't help
3:54 under Gus's finger.
Kid named finger:
15% of the men in New Mexico are Tuco, thinking they're Gustavo.
Do you happen to know how many are Jesses thinking they are Walts?
@@MrBell-iq3sm That depends on where.
Las Cruces: 0%
Socorro: 25%
Los Alamos: 100%
If there was a framed picture of all the Salamancas I'd definitely buy it for the man cave.
Same
Half of this video about Gus taking down the Salamanca's was just about lalo , that is both scary (because it shows that the smartest villan in the breaking bad universe met his match) and kinda baffling cuz I'm sure hector punishment took a lot more time even tho it's so simple.
It's really amazing to see that what the able bodied Salamancas couldn't do to Gus,a paraplegic Salamanca managed to just do it. Phenomenal.
Strictly speaking the last Salamanca took down Gus while also taking down himself.
I just want to point out that Tuco was not murdered as was stated in the video. He was justifiably killed in self defense by Hank. By definition not murder.
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Gus would have gotten away with everything, if he didn't show his biggest weakness - his need to be over the Salamancas. That one weakness gave Walter the means to take him out in explosive fashion.
That was it. Gus had won. He was the drug kingpin. And he lost it all with one single mistake that only served to fuel his own ego.
you're a truly underratted youtuber i thought u would have atleast 100k with these indepth vids keep going i love ur analysis of the characters actions
Lmfao he doesn’t even have 5k bra. His voice is awful
@@johnnguyen6469 that sounds like a personal problem imma keep supporting
@Chives I knew i remembered his voice from somewhere, didn't realize he was Azhymovs till i read this
A lot of youtubers arent Ratted enough. Put some respect on the rodents!
@@montresor2009 yeah, watching this and the video "all 27 killers ranked least to most changed by The Entity!" back to back, I hear it now
The salamanca family are scary as fuck. You cannot take them on all at once. Imagine lalo ask help to his cousins to take down Gus. They will be unstoppable.
Hank:
if lalo had asked the twins to come help with gus he would've been done for, but alas
All of this really speaks to the incredible genius of Vince Gilligan
Hank killed three salamancas just saying
Tuco was already shot and caught him off guard everyone knows twins we’re gonna kill hank but wanted to get a axe for no reason
You must have forgot the fact that Gustavo sent the twins to Hank..
Dont matter how he did it still killed em
@@Matthew-oq1hxthe reason he grabbed an axe was because he wanted to take revenge on his brother that Hank half crushed with a car.
Mike finished Leonel. Hank still holds the high score, with 2 Salamancas on his scorecard.
SPOILER ALERT! Gus did not overcome every Salamanca so close to the finish line the overconfidence that he had avoided before came back to haunt him, he underestimated Walter White and he overlooked Hector's hate for him and his willingness to give up his own life just to kill him. His brash bravado and cockiness cost him his lover's life and ultimately in the end it was his downfall.
Yep. Their very behavior that allowed him to overcome the rest of them, their compulsive arrogance making them predictable, took him down at the hand of the behavior that he had to win, calculated self control.
No long intro talking, no outro talk at all, straight to the point. Perfect video
That's hilarious. The last living Salamanca capable of taking the business, a man who was just denied a drink that was given to literally everyone in the room- capable to taking the business- right there.
Decides to get himself killed
Nah. The guy got the drop on Mike too fast for Mike to do anything and Gus was already too weak to act because of the poison. The only reason that Gus and Mike survived was because they brung Jesse with them.
@@woppagangnamstyle he shot at them. He coulda slid out the moment people started dying and just picked up the pieces. It's not like Gus would keep his presence in Mexico that was all just for revenge haha. Gus even gave them the chance. And then he came to shopt
@@psychoticdaizyproductions569 If he did escape then he wouldn't have any pieces left to pick. Pretty sure the police confiscated the valuables the moment they came to the house. The only way that he could maybe keep up the business is if there was another place where Salamanca's hid their money,and we don't know if that's true or not.
@@woppagangnamstyle name goes a long way.
@@psychoticdaizyproductions569 Not long enough to give you a living,especially if you're the last bearer of that name.
Thumbnail makes it look like Gus is gonna give us a tutorial
Except Hector, the one he actually cared about hurting.
He did hurt hector and make him suffer. He just didn't kill him
I wonder if they will do a prequel that focuses on the Salamanca family and the events surrounding Gus Fringe as a much younger man.
Would be amazing, and the history of don eladio
We could also finally found out who Hector's son/Joaquin's father is
They won't.
@@AA-cf4es They could get the people who did the South American version of Breaking Bad to do one.
Why? We already know Gus’ backstory and motivations
“under gus’s finger”
or course this is referring to mike
finger
feels like im listening to lore of some DBD killer
He didn't overcome Hector Salamanca. Hector Salamanca blew his face off.
No. Walter did.
@@richardshiflett5181 valid point but Hector still rang his bell 🔔
@@SneakerShet kinda makes me think eladio doing his ‘dingdingding ding ding ding’ making fun of Hector is supposed to draw to when hector kills his with a bunch of songs. But maybe I’m seeing something that’s not there
@@SneakerShet and Lalo bring the bell to Hector :))
@@DunsfordFarnsworth they never do nothing for no reason that ding ding ding ding is a foreshadowing to gus death. Eladio would've lived if he would've listened to don Hector. The writers did an outstanding job with both shows. Masterpieces
5:37 this scene always cracks me up no matter how many times I watch it
I recently watched Better Call Saul for the first time, and Lalo became my favorite Salamanca because of this scene
Season 6 never explained why Tuco suddenly ran away.
Instead spending too much time on sandpiper case which should be over in season 4.
So yeah, Tuco wasn't mowed down by Gus.
8:52 ALL THIS IS TOO AMAZING!!!! I'm out of breath, he's so smart that he even used Saul's legendary persuasion against him, he knew how they would react and made it feel like a natural progression. That's just pure genius.
The mind game in this showdown is anime level.
Y’all ever have gay thoughts lmao
He knew exactly what he was doing that that thumbnail lol
Gus killed lalo because of plot armour
Not really he planned for it very well he knew what lalo wanted so he set a trap for him
This was the only time Gus got his hands dirty? Well... So far in the timeline.
He meant actually pulling the trigger on someone
@@Matthew-oq1hx I'm pretty sure slitting someone's throat with a box cutter dirties up the hands more than pulling a trigger. Unless you're talking about how Gus had to actually defend himself instead of making an example out of Victor
I love how the Twins aren’t even twins.
They’re cousins, right?
Gus had one opponent greater than any other salamanca, abuela salamanca was truly a force of nature he could only defeat with hundreds of back up plans and fail-safes. Bravo Vince, for making a character even Gus Fring feared
I think it’s possible Gus figured if he didn’t bother with Tuco, Don Eladio would of taken care of him since he wasn’t the kind of guy you could trust to be in charge and get away with it he wasn’t very smart had a hot temper and was an addict Don Eladio probably would of had him killed and replaced.
Tuco was never a "threat" to Gus in any sense of the word... Tuco was a reckless hot head meth head who was so far beneath Gus, you can tell Tuco had self destructive tendancies so Gus never needed to take him out
"You can never trust a drug addict"
don't think he was that dumb just extremely impulsive and emotional. He managed the cartel's operation north of the border relatively well after all
Tuco was literally about to save the cartel and beat gus by making walter work for the cartel. If walter and jesse went with tuco to Mexico then gus plan would have failed and the cartel would have no use for him
@@yokatta-f emotional intelligence is just as important as analytical intelligence, why heisenburg is a genius yet makes the dumbest choices
Bro your comment section is goated
Gus is the smartest player in both Shows.
Q:How Gus Overcame Every Salamanca?
A: He read the script.
he didn't though, hector teaches us, through tenacity all things are possible
He didn't accomplish that on his own though, he would have zero chance of victory without Walter
All things are possible through opportunistic intervention.
Gus's downfall was his ego to saving Hector for last, toying his prey, that turned out to be a trap
Great to hear your voice again on YT. :)
The only reason we never saw Tuco and Gus meet was because Gus knew he couldn’t beat him since Tuco was the king
The situation between Gus and Hector really reminds me of Captain Ahab trying to hunt his white whale that crippled him. In the end, he dies because of it. But so does the whale.
Gus was like the Looney Tunes Roadrunner, taking down Wile E. Coyote’s entire family. Which is to say, Gus is cartoon character who defies the laws of nature to do the impossible and thus entertains us to the extent we suspend disbelief and accept fiction as being real. The Coyote Family takes it in the chin because Wile E and the others are subject to the laws of nature. Neat trick.
Makes me sad to now know what happened to Nacho :(
It's so cool how gus managed to get the respect of so many people until walter came in and blew it up
Finger
I’m sure Gus always had a vest on and other means of overprotection. We just saw him set it up bc of Lalo. It was always there after. He’s not dealing with shoplifters here.
He only overcame Hector by .01of a second.... BOOM BABY 💥💥💥
Gus would have thrived if he didnt fuck around with walter.
GGUS should've let nacho become the "WARDEN OF THE NORTH" ^under his thumb^ . Let Lalo live for a bit then STRIKE LIKE THE COBRA/VIPER HE IS
What about abuelita? Aka Biznatch
Now we just need Los Pollos con Fring
dude are you AZHYMOVS?
"Hundreds of guards?" A dozen or so guards.
Sweet thorough + well-targeted breakdown 👏
but super weird how you cut off your vids at the end of your last sentence… not bad just different + surprising
The voice… I know this voice…
DBD mannn its uuu
I'm not too familiar with the better call saul part of his story but personally I always liked Gus. I remember watching the show for the 1st time and kind of hoping he came out on top. Between him and Mike they had a decent operation going, for what it was anyway.
The only Salamanca as smart as Gus was Lalo. Lalo was also did superhuman feats
joaquin best character
I do love that the final fight between Lalo and Gus isn't really a fight. That would imply there was some level of skill applied in it, but there wasn't. In the end, the final encounter between Gus and Lalo was one of complete chance, two equals firing away at each other in the dark. Realistically it could have either gone way, and it could have been Lalo walking out of there if he had just aimed slightly differently. Really sells that the two were complete equals, and after Lalo died the Salamancas had nobody who could stand up to him causing to their, causing their rapid destruction.
Noooo my boy joaquin
Ah, But Gus just couldn't overcome Hector.
Also, Gus really shouldn't have overcame Lalo either. Lalo was probably the most professional and dangerous character out of everybody
tbf he did torture hector for years and end the whole salamanca blood line.
@@epicfan1598In the end though, Hector got the last laugh, With help from Walt
Plot armour did Lalo dirty he was way, way smarter than Gus
Wait aren't you that one dbd RUclipsr?
yes lol
@@AZHYMOVS Thank you for talking about two of my favourite things
“Leaving Nacho in charge, under Gus’ Finger” (shot of mike on the screen)
Y'all ever have gay thoughts? lmao
5 minutes in and i juts now realized this is AHZYMOVS. I knew the voice sounded familiar.