thrumble is my favourite monster and I think it deserved at least top 5 cuz it carries the intro of cloud island and whaddle does as well (edit: also cloud island has the best sounding oaktipus HANDS DOWN)
Your rankings pretty good! Honestly I think if they just gave the chorus to Ziggurab and gave him more snares he could be the drum for it, it’s so much wasted opportunity for the only time he’s actually an acoustic drumkit
Here's my ranking: RED 21 - Tweedle (overpowered by Entbrat and Reedling. Also generally sucks) 20 - Ziggurab (inaudible) 19 - Krillby (inaudible) 18 - Drummidary (inaudible) ORANGE 17 - Tiawa (i can hear the last 3 notes only. also I don't like it anyway) 16 - Pango (kinda forgot it was there) 15 - Sneyser (don't care for it) GREEN 14 - Boskus (i like it, it just happens to be the worst of the rest) 13 - Incisaur (just so happens to be Incisaur's best island, imo) 12 - Entbrat (the only island where he's sounded good imo) 11 - Thrumble (also the only island where they've sounded good imo) 10 - Dandidoo (i prefer Oaktopus in that part, but still good) BLUE 9 - Tuskski (i think i hate on this guy a bit too much. I've come to realise that Tuskski is a good Quint) 8- Phangler (my 2nd favourite monster of all time. Very good here, but not as good as the rest) 7 - Whaddle (cannot listen to the song without her) 6 - Oaktopus (roodoodoo doo doodoodoo! Oaktopus' best island imo) YELLOW 5 - PomPom (amazing lyrics) 4 - Reedling (i don't get how people find this guy ear-piercing) 🥉 - Flum Ox (here me out guys, Flum Ox plays quite a lot, and his vocals are really nice and relaxing.) CARRIES 🥈2 - Shellbeat (Fire. That's all I can say) 🥇1 - Woolabee (Pretty standard pick. But deserved, Woolabee CARRIES!)
I’m typing this as I watch the video and just giving my thoughts on the rankings. The thing with tweedle is that honestly the only bad thing about it is how quiet it is. The vocal is beautiful and if you can balance the volumes between Reedling, Entbrat, and Tweedle it honestly sounds great. (This doesn’t apply to Ziggurab though, its’ track is pretty mediocre.) Incisaur also contributes a lot more to Cloud Island than even I realized at first, so I think it deserves to be higher up. Whaddle, I think you ranked way too low, it really makes the beginning segment for me. Entbrat could definitely move up a couple spots for me as I actually really like it. Pango is…Pango, not bad but it’s never anything to write home about so i’m fine with its’ placement. Thrumble is good the way you ranked it. Flum Ox is definitely good I agree. I am a big Krillby fan but honestly the Cloud Island track is honestly pretty meh. I’d rank it a little lower personally. Tiawa is nice, that’s about it, not much to say about it. I agree with what you say about Dandidoo, but I think i’d still rank it a bit lower. Tuskski for me, is fine. It’s just fine, i’d probably put it somewhere in the middle of the list. Oaktopus definitely deserves Top 10 for sure! I do like Boskus but i’d still rank it a tad lower in comparison to other monsters. Sneyser. Honestly, Sneyser is top 5 at least for me, I think people tend to undervalue how much it adds to the song on Cloud. Phangler is good but I wouldn’t say top 5. PomPom is definitely great I agree! Reedling is wonderful, just really loud, it is not bad though ofc. Shellbeat, oh Shellbeat. I’d personally put it a little lower just because I prefer other monsters but it still is the backbone of the percussion of cloud, or rather, it IS the percussion. Woolabee, while definitely deserving Top 3 is not top 1 for me.
I might as well create my own ranking lol 1. Sneyser (Honestly I just really love how MEATY its’ bass is on Cloud Island, especially compared to Space where its’ pretty not good. I love how it duets with Tuskski as well and its’ overall contribution to the song.) 2. Woolabee (I mean, what is there to say that hasn’t been said already? It’s Woolabee, you know why I ranked it so high.) 3. Oaktopus (Okay, this one might be the wildest ranking here, but hear me out, I LOVE Oaktopus on this island, and I cannot not hum its’ track whenever I think about this song.) 4. Tweedle (Ignoring the fact that its’ super hard to hear, the vocal is just so beautiful…I really love it. I just wish it wasn’t done so dirty in the volume department. Seems to be common in DoF.) 5. Whaddle (I also really adore Whaddle and the beginning portion would definitely not be the same without it.) 6. Reedling (Reedling has a great sound on Cloud, no doubt. It fits perfectly on the island, even though it overshadows Tweedle and Entbrat unless you volume balance.) 7. Shellbeat (I can’t feasibly rank it any lower just because of the fact it is literally the percussion on Cloud Island. It’s vital to the song and ranking it lower just doesn’t feel right.) 8. PomPom (I do like the lyrics she has, I dunno what else to say about her though.) 9. Thrumble (It wouldn’t be the same without Thrumble, those hums are ingrained into my mind with this song.) 10. Entbrat (Yes, Entbrat is top 10. I honestly prefer this kind of Entbrat over, say, Plant Island. He’s a big guy trying to go along with the song, and while at first it may be a little weird, it gels nicely to me. The trio of Tweedle, Reedling, and Entbrat is still awesome.) 11. Flum Ox (I like it, and it is another one that I like humming lol) 12. Boskus (As a Boskus fan, this is its’ best island without a doubt. I like its’ rhythm and it’s fun to sing with it for me!) 13. Dandidoo (It’s a good monster on this island, and I like the duet with Oaktopus. I like the vibes with those two monsters in general lol) 14. Incisaur (Incisaur is an underated monster in general honestly, and I think it adds a lot to Cloud Island!) 15. Tiawa (It’s a solid monster I would say, and it adds well in the background.) 16. Phangler (I like the use of dual microphones but I don’t really know how I feel about it in the actual song. It’s fine.) 17. Tuskski (It’s simply okay, not much to say.) 18. Krillby (Now Now, I love Krillby. But, it’s not really anything to write home about on Cloud Island. Its’ worst island, but not terrible. 19. Pango (It’s just Pango. Pango is not BAD, but it never really shines over other monsters. It’s a reliable monster to do its’ thing, but that’s just about all it is. Honestly interchangeable with Krillby.) 20. Drummidary (I love Drummidary, it’s my favorite Quint! But, man…it’s so disappointing on Cloud Island. I wish it did more and played more.) 21. Ziggurab (It just sucks. I honestly don’t really care about not being able to hear it over Shellbeat just because of how bad its’ track is. Party Island did it way better.)
Well both fit their respective islands and they both use pretty common note progressions so I don’t think that was on purpose, but hey, you never know.
Chill Island,ngl: 1 - Flum Ox. He's so chill,I like him. 2 - Tiawa. Why is her last note in Track 2 so low,whyyyyyyy. 3 - PomPom. That's like,the best PomPom in DoF. Why is she on 4 Islands in this game(countint Continent)? 4 - Phangler. He's a great transitionist to the loud parts of the songs. 5 - Woolabee. Okay,I'mma be frank,even though that's not my name,I don't really care about Woolabee here? Sure,he plays in all verse,but he matters in like 1-2? 6 - Shellbeat. ...did someone swap Cave and Cloud sounds? 7 - Oaktopus. Okay this is quite a catchy Oaktopus. 8 - Reedling. That's a neat instrument to basically repeat the Tweedle-Entbrat duo. 9 - Boskus. I mean,you can't really go wrong with Boskus. 10 - Incisaur. Okay he surprisingly really damn good here. 11 - Thrumble. That's... a lot of hums. Why does DoF experiment so much with Fires when MSM gets them downgraded? Look at Incisaur and Thrumble. 12 - Dandidoo. That's just goofy. 13 - Pango. Main instrumentalist of the Dandidoo-Oaktopus verse. Sure. 14 - Krillby. Quiet AND only plays in one verse? Oh wow... 15 - Whaddle. So like,she only plays at the beginning? Dang. 16 - Drummidary. Man. He's so quiet here. Like,he's chill,sure. But man,that's my favourite Quint :( 17 - Ziggurab. ...remind me why do people like this Monster? 18 - Entbrat. Okay. The fact they made him fit kinda surprises me. 19 - Tweedle. Hi,hello,you're only hearable when you just starting the song. 20 - Sneyser. Cool,that's Space Island Sneyser,but his notes are long and he varies between them. Okay,don't care. That's the best Sneyser in the franchise btw lol. 21 - Tuskski. I still think Tuskski is the worst Quint in DoF. And that's with my disliking of Gnarls,it's that bad.
Wait.. I gotta see which magical island drum quint ends up on after finishing this video Edit: and the elephant Edit 2: drum quint ends up on light island, I’m pretty sure cloud ends up as fairy island Edit 3: good news! The elephant ends up on fairy island
Tbh i feel like if i were to rank cloud island krillby would be last cus she doesnt rlly do much and shes quiet which makes his sound less enjoyable for others
The Drummidary disrespect is allowed. I'm a Drummidary fan, but this sound of him is trash, mostly when bbb lost the opportunity to use its claws from the beginning and to be on Party Island instead.
Probably because it was never planned to go to party island and they did not know where to put it cause the fire expansion didn’t exist since it’s release so they put it on cloud island So it will probably not ever go to party island
@@FutureProGamer90 wdym? I just see you sometimes say that someone sounds "underwhelming for a quint" (not directly citated) But there is nothing implying that the amount of elements monsters have indicates the impactfulness to the song.
Drummidary not on party island because the fire expansion did not exist since it’s release So they didn’t know where to put it so they put it on cloud island
The reason it's not lore accurate is because cloud island has always had a heavy connection with faerie island (even before the new mirror magical islands came out). Since the connection between the two islands is so strong all the Quints went to the corresponding magical islands (Gnarls on Bone, Tuski on Faerie, etc.) Drummidary does not show up on Faerie island but instead shows up on light island. I hope that makes sense, I kinda suck at explaining things.
Little fun fact about me and Cloud Island Sneyser: i used to go to DOF and listen to Sneyser on this island to calm down
thrumble is my favourite monster and I think it deserved at least top 5 cuz it carries the intro of cloud island and whaddle does as well (edit: also cloud island has the best sounding oaktipus HANDS DOWN)
Thrumble is also my favorite monster. She's so goofy I love their smile 😭😭😭
Shellbeat had no business going that hard and crazy. It's so fire that when i was younger, i tried to recreate his sound on my own drum set
Goted
Were you able to make it? And do you still have a drum set?
@javiergironbracamonte5296 it was at church, but yeah, I haven't seen it everything in the virus 19.
Incisaur actually contributes much more to Cloud than you realize
1:40 literally Continent:
I always think about how awesome drummidary on cave would've been.
I was so happy to see the cloud island ranking
Your rankings pretty good! Honestly I think if they just gave the chorus to Ziggurab and gave him more snares he could be the drum for it, it’s so much wasted opportunity for the only time he’s actually an acoustic drumkit
shake it to the left shake it to the left shake it to the right SLAPS
5:59 Mpg is happy
Pretty good ranking honestly
I didnt go to school waiting for this W ranking fpg
Here's my ranking:
RED
21 - Tweedle (overpowered by Entbrat and Reedling. Also generally sucks)
20 - Ziggurab (inaudible)
19 - Krillby (inaudible)
18 - Drummidary (inaudible)
ORANGE
17 - Tiawa (i can hear the last 3 notes only. also I don't like it anyway)
16 - Pango (kinda forgot it was there)
15 - Sneyser (don't care for it)
GREEN
14 - Boskus (i like it, it just happens to be the worst of the rest)
13 - Incisaur (just so happens to be Incisaur's best island, imo)
12 - Entbrat (the only island where he's sounded good imo)
11 - Thrumble (also the only island where they've sounded good imo)
10 - Dandidoo (i prefer Oaktopus in that part, but still good)
BLUE
9 - Tuskski (i think i hate on this guy a bit too much. I've come to realise that Tuskski is a good Quint)
8- Phangler (my 2nd favourite monster of all time. Very good here, but not as good as the rest)
7 - Whaddle (cannot listen to the song without her)
6 - Oaktopus (roodoodoo doo doodoodoo! Oaktopus' best island imo)
YELLOW
5 - PomPom (amazing lyrics)
4 - Reedling (i don't get how people find this guy ear-piercing)
🥉 - Flum Ox (here me out guys, Flum Ox plays quite a lot, and his vocals are really nice and relaxing.)
CARRIES
🥈2 - Shellbeat (Fire. That's all I can say)
🥇1 - Woolabee (Pretty standard pick. But deserved, Woolabee CARRIES!)
4:20 Why’d you censor the elements?
Racism (this is a joke)
Yayyy futureprogamer90 posts again:)
0:56 the elements of drummidary is worng should be Ice Stone Air and Plants and Fire
Perfect thing on a birthday to see
If you haven't already, can you do Arctic Archipelago by Steph's Stuff for the next fan-made friday?
6:54 WHY IS DRUMMIDARY AUDIBLE HERE BUT NOWHERE ELSE-
Imma say it, Cloud Island is the best island in DOF, none of the monsters feel out of place
I’m typing this as I watch the video and just giving my thoughts on the rankings.
The thing with tweedle is that honestly the only bad thing about it is how quiet it is. The vocal is beautiful and if you can balance the volumes between Reedling, Entbrat, and Tweedle it honestly sounds great. (This doesn’t apply to Ziggurab though, its’ track is pretty mediocre.)
Incisaur also contributes a lot more to Cloud Island than even I realized at first, so I think it deserves to be higher up. Whaddle, I think you ranked way too low, it really makes the beginning segment for me. Entbrat could definitely move up a couple spots for me as I actually really like it. Pango is…Pango, not bad but it’s never anything to write home about so i’m fine with its’ placement. Thrumble is good the way you ranked it. Flum Ox is definitely good I agree. I am a big Krillby fan but honestly the Cloud Island track is honestly pretty meh. I’d rank it a little lower personally. Tiawa is nice, that’s about it, not much to say about it. I agree with what you say about Dandidoo, but I think i’d still rank it a bit lower. Tuskski for me, is fine. It’s just fine, i’d probably put it somewhere in the middle of the list. Oaktopus definitely deserves Top 10 for sure! I do like Boskus but i’d still rank it a tad lower in comparison to other monsters. Sneyser. Honestly, Sneyser is top 5 at least for me, I think people tend to undervalue how much it adds to the song on Cloud. Phangler is good but I wouldn’t say top 5. PomPom is definitely great I agree! Reedling is wonderful, just really loud, it is not bad though ofc. Shellbeat, oh Shellbeat. I’d personally put it a little lower just because I prefer other monsters but it still is the backbone of the percussion of cloud, or rather, it IS the percussion. Woolabee, while definitely deserving Top 3 is not top 1 for me.
I might as well create my own ranking lol
1. Sneyser (Honestly I just really love how MEATY its’ bass is on Cloud Island, especially compared to Space where its’ pretty not good. I love how it duets with Tuskski as well and its’ overall contribution to the song.)
2. Woolabee (I mean, what is there to say that hasn’t been said already? It’s Woolabee, you know why I ranked it so high.)
3. Oaktopus (Okay, this one might be the wildest ranking here, but hear me out, I LOVE Oaktopus on this island, and I cannot not hum its’ track whenever I think about this song.)
4. Tweedle (Ignoring the fact that its’ super hard to hear, the vocal is just so beautiful…I really love it. I just wish it wasn’t done so dirty in the volume department. Seems to be common in DoF.)
5. Whaddle (I also really adore Whaddle and the beginning portion would definitely not be the same without it.)
6. Reedling (Reedling has a great sound on Cloud, no doubt. It fits perfectly on the island, even though it overshadows Tweedle and Entbrat unless you volume balance.)
7. Shellbeat (I can’t feasibly rank it any lower just because of the fact it is literally the percussion on Cloud Island. It’s vital to the song and ranking it lower just doesn’t feel right.)
8. PomPom (I do like the lyrics she has, I dunno what else to say about her though.)
9. Thrumble (It wouldn’t be the same without Thrumble, those hums are ingrained into my mind with this song.)
10. Entbrat (Yes, Entbrat is top 10. I honestly prefer this kind of Entbrat over, say, Plant Island. He’s a big guy trying to go along with the song, and while at first it may be a little weird, it gels nicely to me. The trio of Tweedle, Reedling, and Entbrat is still awesome.)
11. Flum Ox (I like it, and it is another one that I like humming lol)
12. Boskus (As a Boskus fan, this is its’ best island without a doubt. I like its’ rhythm and it’s fun to sing with it for me!)
13. Dandidoo (It’s a good monster on this island, and I like the duet with Oaktopus. I like the vibes with those two monsters in general lol)
14. Incisaur (Incisaur is an underated monster in general honestly, and I think it adds a lot to Cloud Island!)
15. Tiawa (It’s a solid monster I would say, and it adds well in the background.)
16. Phangler (I like the use of dual microphones but I don’t really know how I feel about it in the actual song. It’s fine.)
17. Tuskski (It’s simply okay, not much to say.)
18. Krillby (Now Now, I love Krillby. But, it’s not really anything to write home about on Cloud Island. Its’ worst island, but not terrible.
19. Pango (It’s just Pango. Pango is not BAD, but it never really shines over other monsters. It’s a reliable monster to do its’ thing, but that’s just about all it is. Honestly interchangeable with Krillby.)
20. Drummidary (I love Drummidary, it’s my favorite Quint! But, man…it’s so disappointing on Cloud Island. I wish it did more and played more.)
21. Ziggurab (It just sucks. I honestly don’t really care about not being able to hear it over Shellbeat just because of how bad its’ track is. Party Island did it way better.)
Cloud Island Flum Ox is actually a copy of Ethereal Island Whisp, listen closely.
Well both fit their respective islands and they both use pretty common note progressions so I don’t think that was on purpose, but hey, you never know.
Can you please do my Sand Island on next fanmade Friday video? I did it for a month
yeyyyyy someone finally brings boskus justice
Say all you want about Drummidary, but I just wanna say that it could've worked on Cave Island.
Imo
1-woolabee
2-shellbeat
3-oaktopus
4-sneyser
5-reedling
6-flum ox
7-tuskski
8-phangler
9-pompom
10-thrumble
11-whaddle
12-pango
13-boskus
14-dandidoo
15-krillby
16-incisaur
17-ziggurab
18-drummidary
19-tiawa
20-entbrat
21-tweedle
krillby... ;(
Sky Cotton Candy Island
Reedling in top 3 is instant W video
Chill Island,ngl:
1 - Flum Ox. He's so chill,I like him.
2 - Tiawa. Why is her last note in Track 2 so low,whyyyyyyy.
3 - PomPom. That's like,the best PomPom in DoF. Why is she on 4 Islands in this game(countint Continent)?
4 - Phangler. He's a great transitionist to the loud parts of the songs.
5 - Woolabee. Okay,I'mma be frank,even though that's not my name,I don't really care about Woolabee here? Sure,he plays in all verse,but he matters in like 1-2?
6 - Shellbeat. ...did someone swap Cave and Cloud sounds?
7 - Oaktopus. Okay this is quite a catchy Oaktopus.
8 - Reedling. That's a neat instrument to basically repeat the Tweedle-Entbrat duo.
9 - Boskus. I mean,you can't really go wrong with Boskus.
10 - Incisaur. Okay he surprisingly really damn good here.
11 - Thrumble. That's... a lot of hums. Why does DoF experiment so much with Fires when MSM gets them downgraded? Look at Incisaur and Thrumble.
12 - Dandidoo. That's just goofy.
13 - Pango. Main instrumentalist of the Dandidoo-Oaktopus verse. Sure.
14 - Krillby. Quiet AND only plays in one verse? Oh wow...
15 - Whaddle. So like,she only plays at the beginning? Dang.
16 - Drummidary. Man. He's so quiet here. Like,he's chill,sure. But man,that's my favourite Quint :(
17 - Ziggurab. ...remind me why do people like this Monster?
18 - Entbrat. Okay. The fact they made him fit kinda surprises me.
19 - Tweedle. Hi,hello,you're only hearable when you just starting the song.
20 - Sneyser. Cool,that's Space Island Sneyser,but his notes are long and he varies between them. Okay,don't care. That's the best Sneyser in the franchise btw lol.
21 - Tuskski. I still think Tuskski is the worst Quint in DoF. And that's with my disliking of Gnarls,it's that bad.
Wtf
Why don’t you like Tuskski?
I love tuskski but I can’t blame you, I have a strong hate for bowhead and gnarls
Tuskski on 21?? That's it your on my touch list.
@@FURIOUSNOOB1211 WHHHAAAAAAT?!?!?!
Wait.. I gotta see which magical island drum quint ends up on after finishing this video
Edit: and the elephant
Edit 2: drum quint ends up on light island, I’m pretty sure cloud ends up as fairy island
Edit 3: good news! The elephant ends up on fairy island
YES KRILLBY IS ON 12TH
(Cloud island krillby is my least favourite krillby but they are still a top 5 cloud island monster for me😅)
Woolabee Island.
Krillby on cloud island is just a copy of pladdie on faerie island if u listen closely
@@c4r3na-s Do you not know which came first
@@tibby4503 farie island came first I think
@@sarfuappu wrong.
@@sarfuappu Well you sadly have thought wrong. Cloud Island Krillby is older.
@@sarfuappu 💀💀💀💀 im dead
5:47 cloud island? Nah. More like woolabee island
I love this song but it's one of my least favorite islands, because i am sick and tired of trying to make the quiet monsters audible on my island :,)
Tbh i feel like if i were to rank cloud island krillby would be last cus she doesnt rlly do much and shes quiet which makes his sound less enjoyable for others
The Drummidary disrespect is allowed. I'm a Drummidary fan, but this sound of him is trash, mostly when bbb lost the opportunity to use its claws from the beginning and to be on Party Island instead.
Probably because it was never planned to go to party island and they did not know where to put it cause the fire expansion didn’t exist since it’s release so they put it on cloud island
So it will probably not ever go to party island
The Drummidary disrespect is crazy😭😭😭
I agree with this bro
Flum ox: it is a great monster that didn't copy continent flum ox
Also: only green tier
Do light island next
Cloud island is also beautiful
There is no correlation between the amount of elements and contribution to the song, so it should not affect the rating
@@ShooterEx ???
@@FutureProGamer90 !!!
@@ShooterEx tf are you on about? That’s why I put that there
@@FutureProGamer90 wdym?
I just see you sometimes say that someone sounds "underwhelming for a quint" (not directly citated)
But there is nothing implying that the amount of elements monsters have indicates the impactfulness to the song.
Islands left for a remaster:
Ethereal Workshop
Light Island
Bone Island
Tribal Island
The Continent
Five left boys 🙏
He's not ranking the continent again 😭🙏
He said he won’t be doing continent till all mythical release
Wait... Drummidary on Cloud island isn't lore accurate? I didn't know there was lore around that.
Drummidary is the only quint to not be on the outer island matching their Fire Expansion Island, which goes against the lore
He should’ve been on party according to lore
4:22 Why is it censored
Idk I didn’t do that
@@FutureProGamer90 lol
3:00 you dont need to disrespect drummidary like that man - he and mimic should be switched if anything and he should be on party with candlelavra-
Drummidary not on party island because the fire expansion did not exist since it’s release
So they didn’t know where to put it so they put it on cloud island
@@annoyingdaddy9271exactly
Woolabee is legit stogg (bone island)
Ok now rank Meme Island by TheSpoonBuccaneer or else continent Blabbit will come for you
I don't remember the last cloud island ranking-
no red is *CRAZY*
4:20 (noice)
Why are pompoms elements censored
@@deadchannelagainaeeerrrrrr6047 idk void monster did that
Please.
Ive been asking for quads for months!
@@buzzinga_and_YOOREEK I already did it.
@@buzzinga_and_YOOREEK ruclips.net/user/shortsGBhZIwp0sTM?si=_z37znn7LfheDjQx you happy?
Sorry for being annoying but…
Workshop
Enchantling?
0:56 what does “not lore accurate” mean, I’m dumb so please explain
4:24 and why is there blur here 😭😭😭
The reason it's not lore accurate is because cloud island has always had a heavy connection with faerie island (even before the new mirror magical islands came out).
Since the connection between the two islands is so strong all the Quints went to the corresponding magical islands (Gnarls on Bone, Tuski on Faerie, etc.)
Drummidary does not show up on Faerie island but instead shows up on light island.
I hope that makes sense, I kinda suck at explaining things.
@@xXDYNAMITEXx ohh, thanks
I agree
Why is it pompom's element bleeped?
@@Ganaball idk
5:48
Look the mirror Island
help my woolabee ate cloud island
#StopIncisaurhate
#no
This is so recent
You disrespected Whaddle even more!😡😡😡😡😡😡😡 she deserves to be higher
Wait why did you bleep out that small bit with Pompom
I didn’t bleep it out, void monster did for some reason 🤷♂️
It’s the element PomPom has
@@takeahobby6454 elements*
the elements are air earth snow
@@Okurrrrrr cold*
Entbrat is just tweedle but awful what
60th liked