The psychology of getting mentally affected by people flaming you is so real. I KNOW I should just ignore those people, but it's hard to not let it affect you. I guess leaving voice & chat is the right move, after all? Makes the game a bit more lonely though, sometimes.
I personally keep voice chat. Remove text chat 100% for sure, do it now (all chat and team chat) but voice chat can be nice. From my experience there are either useful comms or dogshit comms but no in between. When someone says something that is not useful you need to stop everything you're doing and mute them ASAP, don't give them the benefit of the doubt
I’ve left voice and chat. It is a bit lonely, but I’d rather be lonely than be screamed at by some idiot who doesn’t even know very much about the game, but think they do.
@@Eclipse.Himself in my experience it usually is their fault. Many people seem to have a total lack of self-awareness. “Sure the failure is totally down to me Mr/Mrs GM.”
Spilo, I appreciate how you relate game situations to real life. Especially when you’re 1 on 1 coaching. Shows you genuinely care and want people to succeed not only in the video game but in real life. Not a lot of coaches do that. Bravo 👏🏼
Idk why, and idk how ... But there is a podcast person named Lex Fridman... I'd love to see you two chat. Not only are you an overwatch guru, but I learn in clips like these you're a life guru as well. Mad props for bully coaching
I actually wonder if that was me bc I had a game like that and I was able to bring the team together to a win. This guy was just saying slurs in team chat being a total degenerate and I was like yall don't let this mf throw our game ignore the mental patient and play overwatch
I had a game where a widow was crying about not having a pocket while the other widow did. So I willingly swapped to mercy and shoved my staff up his butt. We were all in VC, which made this better. So he gets widow diffed. I'm talkin 7 kills and 19 deaths diffed. But the entire time I was over the top roasting him alive. Near the end of it, he swapped to ashe, I went into drill.sargent mode and he got back on widow. We 100% lost, but it felt cathartic. That was a really fun game lol
Can I ask what you felt you got out of it? Did it make you feel better, superior? Or you found some humour in it? Do you notice if it’s because it’s something to do with yourself or because of them?
@@addictedfoolgamer1970 Honestly from a kinda reformed toxic player it comes from a place of competitiveness. Whenever I played games like cod and ppl talked shit I’d try and play better to prove them wrong. But I’ve realized that most ppl don’t work like that. If I call my zen a trash can he’s gonna get tilted not focus harder. It’s just a mentality difference
I hate people who think the scoreboard is what describes the way a game goes. Flaming someone for doing 3k less damage than the next DPS and less than the tank is just silly and toxic. I wouldn't even flame someone if they had the most deaths on the team I'd just suggest politely what they could play to fit our teamcomp/ how they could counter the enemy team's. But leaving voicechat and muting match chat just to avoid this makes games feel lonely, playing with positive people is more than half the fun of this game imo. But I find lobbies with toxicity near League Of Legends levels...
I had a hard time when I started the game. It's my first time with a community like that. Being 40 I didn't have the online experience back when I was gaming a lot and when I played wow I went to a role playing server which was really relaxed. I was a bit shocked but now I see it as a training field to drone out the hateful voices against me. I can't ignore others getting flamed though. Just today a frustrated dps first blamed the supports for not healing, when I said healing for me was fine they went after me telling me I didn't do any damage though. They had no response to me stating it's nothing to do with the heals bit because I'm not good and when I died it was bad positioning. They wanted to point out my damaga as bastion was super low and didn't even realize I was playing Hanzo for 99% of the match 😂. After that the tank was trolling of course. Anybody was to blame but them... Sad fellow but at least that had some kind of comedy to it...
I’m a Mei main. I get flamed all the time for low damage but 90% of the time have most the elims. People just can’t accept they’re shit so as a coping mechanism it’s always someone else’s fault.
Something I've been trying recently is just unbinding my scoreboard, because even when im not getting flamed I judge myself too often. It is ABSOLUTELY NOT the solution for everyone tho. I miss out on so much information, but I personally think that the negativity in my brain does more damage to my performance than that information provides. It's not for everyone but if you hit tab way too often this might be a good way to help. Bonus is that I can't look at my teammates stats and find reasons to blame them for my mistakes. It's easy to blame a 2k damage genji but I need to recognize that I'm the only one I can control.
Flaming a guy that has 2k dmg on genji can be very good Sometimes i do it and they actually try to play better and focus soemtimes they leave or troll even harder but who tf cares if it was unwinnable in the beg atkeast theres a change
@@vasco0014 flaming them won't help, often they'll play even worse because they'll lose confidence in their skill. Asking them to switch potentially will
I don't really care if flaming the genji makes him top 500 in a gold lobby. I just think that getting mad at someone over a video game is a waste of my time and energy. Plus it's just an asshole move to yell at someone who might just be having a bad game. ((I never flamed through my mic before I just kept telling myself that it wasnt my fault I was losing it was "x player for doing y damage" or somn similar))
In GM every little mistake you make gets crucified by your teammates I practice out of voice most of the time when I was like 16-17 I could handle it but now that I'm older I just don't have time for negativity I just focus on playing as well as I can. People need to realize not everyone has 80 hours a week to play and improve were just trying to have fun 😂
I would like to ask you, what is practicing like in overwatch 2 I see that spilo sometimes says that practice and I don't get it actually so can you help me
I always get people flaming me in chat because i dont sit there and healbot the team as ana and always get reported and its happened so much to the point where it doesn’t even affect me anymore
Had a game where a Pharah called me "L Bap" when my team lost but its cause I was beating their ass in game. I was trying to trash talk em back for abit but I regressed to being humble and sadly they ended up "one-upping" me by calling me a bot, I just left the conversation as is and continued on with my life. It really sucks to go through this kind of dumb stuff in a game but lowkey I wanna make the other person more mad if they got something to say about me but I kinda suck at trash talking lol.
Am I psycho for feeling like whenever a team mate flames me I just get in the mood to prove that mf wrong, like I play better after because that motivation to spite them exists
Nah, I am the same. Especially in QP. There's just something about being able to type "Cass has been pretty quiet these last few minutes" that really hits different
lmao i clicked this because i get crap from people every other game because i play zen too this dude last night was trying to tell me that zen has amazing heals and i just suck🤦♂xD
I always add, hey you're doing fine (even if they aren't) but I think we need a X her for X reason. Doesn't always work but a lot of times it makes them feel comforted that you aren't calling them the problem just the hero pick itself isn't optimal
i dont argue with my teammates because i dont see them as my equals. i also dont want them to get better either, so when im feeling particularly psychopathic, ill start agreeing with a teammate after they make a dumb take to reinforce their belief that they understand the game. This will mindfuck them later and make it harder for them to accept the fact that they might be wrong, thus making it harder for them to win games and more importantly harder to queue into me. alpha = mute them. beta = actually listen to them (💀)/argue with them and hope for an ameliorative discussion (💀). sigma = unmute them right before the game ends and say “after giving it some thought, i think you were actually right! i never thought about it that way! i should’ve swapped to mercy and pocketed you! This games on ME guys!” This tactic is guaranteed to make them derank and more importantly be sad irl (which is deserved because how dare they share their opinions with you?). The more sincere the better btw. The cognitive dissonance caused by the disconnect between their perceived understanding of the game and their actual ranked results, will make them lose self confidence in other areas of their life. If done correctly, you may send them down a dark path of drug addiction and mental illness (once again completely deserved for subjecting you to a much worse fate: being forced to listen to their opinions).
The psychology of getting mentally affected by people flaming you is so real. I KNOW I should just ignore those people, but it's hard to not let it affect you. I guess leaving voice & chat is the right move, after all? Makes the game a bit more lonely though, sometimes.
I personally keep voice chat. Remove text chat 100% for sure, do it now (all chat and team chat) but voice chat can be nice.
From my experience there are either useful comms or dogshit comms but no in between. When someone says something that is not useful you need to stop everything you're doing and mute them ASAP, don't give them the benefit of the doubt
mainly jus have to be nonchalant about it. the way I think about it is that they're in the same rank as me for a reason, they're dog shit too.
when people are flaming me i usually try to turn it around and blame it on them cause its funny
I’ve left voice and chat. It is a bit lonely, but I’d rather be lonely than be screamed at by some idiot who doesn’t even know very much about the game, but think they do.
@@Eclipse.Himself in my experience it usually is their fault. Many people seem to have a total lack of self-awareness. “Sure the failure is totally down to me Mr/Mrs GM.”
Spilo, I appreciate how you relate game situations to real life. Especially when you’re 1 on 1 coaching. Shows you genuinely care and want people to succeed not only in the video game but in real life. Not a lot of coaches do that. Bravo 👏🏼
Idk why, and idk how ... But there is a podcast person named Lex Fridman... I'd love to see you two chat. Not only are you an overwatch guru, but I learn in clips like these you're a life guru as well. Mad props for bully coaching
I had someone ignore the miserable person and only make call-outs. It stopped the team from sooking and focus
I actually wonder if that was me bc I had a game like that and I was able to bring the team together to a win. This guy was just saying slurs in team chat being a total degenerate and I was like yall don't let this mf throw our game ignore the mental patient and play overwatch
I had a game where a widow was crying about not having a pocket while the other widow did. So I willingly swapped to mercy and shoved my staff up his butt.
We were all in VC, which made this better. So he gets widow diffed. I'm talkin 7 kills and 19 deaths diffed. But the entire time I was over the top roasting him alive. Near the end of it, he swapped to ashe, I went into drill.sargent mode and he got back on widow. We 100% lost, but it felt cathartic.
That was a really fun game lol
Damn I should do this more. Just start pocketing them and ask them why we aren't winning. lmao.
always can count on spilo to state sum based truths
I can definitely relate. However I’ve also been the bully too so I can’t really say anything.
Can I ask what you felt you got out of it? Did it make you feel better, superior? Or you found some humour in it?
Do you notice if it’s because it’s something to do with yourself or because of them?
@@addictedfoolgamer1970 Honestly from a kinda reformed toxic player it comes from a place of competitiveness. Whenever I played games like cod and ppl talked shit I’d try and play better to prove them wrong. But I’ve realized that most ppl don’t work like that. If I call my zen a trash can he’s gonna get tilted not focus harder. It’s just a mentality difference
@@kash125 Thank you for your thoughtful response - it's interesting
I hate people who think the scoreboard is what describes the way a game goes. Flaming someone for doing 3k less damage than the next DPS and less than the tank is just silly and toxic. I wouldn't even flame someone if they had the most deaths on the team I'd just suggest politely what they could play to fit our teamcomp/ how they could counter the enemy team's. But leaving voicechat and muting match chat just to avoid this makes games feel lonely, playing with positive people is more than half the fun of this game imo. But I find lobbies with toxicity near League Of Legends levels...
Refreshing to see someone talk about the Karen's. They're so common.
Whos cat is that screaming in the background I love him ❤
I had a hard time when I started the game. It's my first time with a community like that. Being 40 I didn't have the online experience back when I was gaming a lot and when I played wow I went to a role playing server which was really relaxed. I was a bit shocked but now I see it as a training field to drone out the hateful voices against me. I can't ignore others getting flamed though.
Just today a frustrated dps first blamed the supports for not healing, when I said healing for me was fine they went after me telling me I didn't do any damage though. They had no response to me stating it's nothing to do with the heals bit because I'm not good and when I died it was bad positioning. They wanted to point out my damaga as bastion was super low and didn't even realize I was playing Hanzo for 99% of the match 😂.
After that the tank was trolling of course. Anybody was to blame but them... Sad fellow but at least that had some kind of comedy to it...
Good luck out there 💪 removing text chat filters a lot of the toxicity, being quick on the mute button can also help
The description of the video is wrong btw but great video!
fixed!
I’m a Mei main. I get flamed all the time for low damage but 90% of the time have most the elims. People just can’t accept they’re shit so as a coping mechanism it’s always someone else’s fault.
Tbf sometimes mei is not an optimal pick but I feel you😂
i try not to be toxic but when someone tries to flame another teammate for no good reason i gotta whip out the mw2 in me
Something I've been trying recently is just unbinding my scoreboard, because even when im not getting flamed I judge myself too often. It is ABSOLUTELY NOT the solution for everyone tho.
I miss out on so much information, but I personally think that the negativity in my brain does more damage to my performance than that information provides. It's not for everyone but if you hit tab way too often this might be a good way to help.
Bonus is that I can't look at my teammates stats and find reasons to blame them for my mistakes. It's easy to blame a 2k damage genji but I need to recognize that I'm the only one I can control.
Good tip I might try that, scoreboard is sometimes useful though (checking if somebody got a wrong spawn on a push map for example)
Decent idea, but I’m worried avoiding the problem is normally not as good as solving it.
Flaming a guy that has 2k dmg on genji can be very good
Sometimes i do it and they actually try to play better and focus soemtimes they leave or troll even harder but who tf cares if it was unwinnable in the beg atkeast theres a change
@@vasco0014 flaming them won't help, often they'll play even worse because they'll lose confidence in their skill. Asking them to switch potentially will
I don't really care if flaming the genji makes him top 500 in a gold lobby. I just think that getting mad at someone over a video game is a waste of my time and energy. Plus it's just an asshole move to yell at someone who might just be having a bad game.
((I never flamed through my mic before I just kept telling myself that it wasnt my fault I was losing it was "x player for doing y damage" or somn similar))
In GM every little mistake you make gets crucified by your teammates I practice out of voice most of the time when I was like 16-17 I could handle it but now that I'm older I just don't have time for negativity I just focus on playing as well as I can. People need to realize not everyone has 80 hours a week to play and improve were just trying to have fun 😂
I would like to ask you, what is practicing like in overwatch 2 I see that spilo sometimes says that practice and I don't get it actually so can you help me
@@Apollify OK I will add you thanks a lot
I always get people flaming me in chat because i dont sit there and healbot the team as ana and always get reported and its happened so much to the point where it doesn’t even affect me anymore
Remove text chat in the options, it has never been useful
This video is so real
Great responses
Had a game where a Pharah called me "L Bap" when my team lost but its cause I was beating their ass in game. I was trying to trash talk em back for abit but I regressed to being humble and sadly they ended up "one-upping" me by calling me a bot, I just left the conversation as is and continued on with my life.
It really sucks to go through this kind of dumb stuff in a game but lowkey I wanna make the other person more mad if they got something to say about me but I kinda suck at trash talking lol.
Am I psycho for feeling like whenever a team mate flames me I just get in the mood to prove that mf wrong, like I play better after because that motivation to spite them exists
Nah, I am the same.
Especially in QP.
There's just something about being able to type "Cass has been pretty quiet these last few minutes" that really hits different
lmao i clicked this because i get crap from people every other game because i play zen too
this dude last night was trying to tell me that zen has amazing heals and i just suck🤦♂xD
This guy is a precious cinnamon bun i wanna kiss him
People are so quick to get really annoyed about any sort of criticism or a request to switch heroes.
I learned the hard way people never like being told what to do even in the nicest ways
I always add, hey you're doing fine (even if they aren't) but I think we need a X her for X reason. Doesn't always work but a lot of times it makes them feel comforted that you aren't calling them the problem just the hero pick itself isn't optimal
bro think he's a coach...
i dont argue with my teammates because i dont see them as my equals. i also dont want them to get better either, so when im feeling particularly psychopathic, ill start agreeing with a teammate after they make a dumb take to reinforce their belief that they understand the game. This will mindfuck them later and make it harder for them to accept the fact that they might be wrong, thus making it harder for them to win games and more importantly harder to queue into me. alpha = mute them. beta = actually listen to them (💀)/argue with them and hope for an ameliorative discussion (💀). sigma = unmute them right before the game ends and say “after giving it some thought, i think you were actually right! i never thought about it that way! i should’ve swapped to mercy and pocketed you! This games on ME guys!” This tactic is guaranteed to make them derank and more importantly be sad irl (which is deserved because how dare they share their opinions with you?). The more sincere the better btw. The cognitive dissonance caused by the disconnect between their perceived understanding of the game and their actual ranked results, will make them lose self confidence in other areas of their life. If done correctly, you may send them down a dark path of drug addiction and mental illness (once again completely deserved for subjecting you to a much worse fate: being forced to listen to their opinions).