Chemical Thermodynamics 3.3 - State and Path Functions

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  • Short physical chemistry lecture on state functions and path functions.
    A state is the set of all variables necessary to completely specify the conditions of a system. A path is the set of states connecting an initial state to a final state. State functions depend only on the initial and final state, while path functions depending on the path connecting them.
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Комментарии • 15

  • @ps-js5vs
    @ps-js5vs 8 лет назад +8

    These videos have helped me so much in preparing for my first p chem exam! Thank you so much!!!!

    • @TMPChem
      @TMPChem  8 лет назад +3

      Thanks Paige. Good luck on the exam and beyond. We'll be here for the next one, too.

  • @gaurangagarwal3243
    @gaurangagarwal3243 5 лет назад +4

    Dude . It was great finally I understood what do we mean by path variable

  • @ininc5983
    @ininc5983 7 лет назад +3

    never knew what it was................ thanks

    • @TMPChem
      @TMPChem  7 лет назад +4

      Glad to help. Unfortunately there are many cases in pchem where some formal, abstract, mathematical concept is mentioned briefly, and then never explained again, but used often. Often it isn't that complicated to explain, but is quite confusing when you aren't aware where it comes from and/or what it means.

  • @user-in4sg1nt4t
    @user-in4sg1nt4t 6 лет назад +2

    Shouldn't the equation at the end be ∆Q=∆U+∆W as some of the heat supplied to system increases internal energy and some goes to do work?

    • @TMPChem
      @TMPChem  6 лет назад +10

      Heat and work are path functions, and not state functions, thus for a macroscopic change we don't use a preceding delta as we do for state functions, such as energy. Energy has a well-defined value at the beginning and end of the process, thus the term delta_U makes sense. Heat and work are the result of process, and are not properties of a given system state, thus it doesn't make sense to refer to delta_Q or delta_W, as these quantities are just Q and W themselves. Heat and work are both ways to change the internal energy of the system, and add up together to be the change in internal energy, thus the overall equation delta_U = Q + W.

  • @haithamabdelrahman6276
    @haithamabdelrahman6276 4 года назад

    Nice , thanks

    • @TMPChem
      @TMPChem  4 года назад

      Thanks for watching.

  • @nkyu3035
    @nkyu3035 7 лет назад +1

    I have a feeling I might have asked you the same question but I couldn't find it T_T.
    in the equation du=dw+dq, why does path function plus path function equal state function?

    • @TMPChem
      @TMPChem  7 лет назад +2

      Because the manner in which those functions depend on the path are equal in magnitude and opposite in sign. Thus, when you add them together you end up with a state function.

    • @nkyu3035
      @nkyu3035 7 лет назад

      It make sense if these two path functions work that way.
      But I wonder why the manner in which these function depend on the path is like that.
      How should I understand it in terms of math or intuition?

    • @TMPChem
      @TMPChem  6 лет назад

      Honestly I don't have a full intuitive understanding of several macroscopic top-down classical thermodynamic concepts like the work / heat path function pairing. I've always understood things much better from the microscopic bottom-up statistical mechanics approach. I don't think I have much more to say on the topic besides following where the math leads.