2024 KTM 390 Duke vs TVS Apache RTR 310 - Best Sub-400cc Bike Battle In India? | MotorBeam
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
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We ride the brand-new motorcycle from KTM, 390 Duke and we compare it with the brand-new motorcycle from TVS, the Apache RTR 310. In today’s video we tell you which one is the best sub 400cc motorcycle to buy in India. Feature rich or power loaded or a balance of both the KTM 390 Duke and the TVS Apache RTR 310 do it all?
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Tvs need to redesign it's exhaust quickly ... It just killing it's own looks 😅
Exhaust 😢😢😢
Yes yes !!!!
Raider exhaust is so sporty but with this we can upgrade
And the engine is also need to be redesigned because I think its also little bit lack 😢of specifications
I think RTR 310 being a naked bike looks much better with that tin can of an exhaust. Whereas the RR310 looked so awful with the same. That’s probably the reason why TVS dint bother to change it. But Insee many hating this exhaust already. Perhaps the sound is much better on this exhaust than the RTR 200 exhaust
Apache RTR 310 ❤ but this Blue Duke 390 was Bomb 💣.
Is bomb , real 💣
Can we appreciate TVS for creating such a bike that in 2023, even when the rival is a brand like KTM, we had to thoroughly mind fuck ourselves to decide which bike to buy?
Respect ±± TVS
Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Je baat 👍 🇮🇳
Yeah Given the heritage KTM has in Racing and Being Austrian Brand
Kudos to TVS for making bikes that compete with international brands 🤗
My friend who had the same thought got a rr 310 instead of the KTM
He has done only 7k kms in 3 years, he still regrets getting a TVS instead of KTM
Just saying
bmw engine
@@ajiitmajhii5590service is shit of Tvs trust me my friend had 310 rr it's the worst decision ever Tvs doesn't care about their bikes after selling them
Mini streetfighter vs mini super duke 😂
RTR looks better in terms of design. Duke is a performance monster.
I think down the line we are going to remember that performance more. RTR is excellent for the price though.
Yes buddy, I don't understand why this youtubers are comparing this with Duke 390 it should be compared with Duke 250 to be honest
@@breaker981 idk why you are everywhere in the comments
Bro you should hear the RTR sound. It's not loud like a superbike but it has too much disturbance making me feel like the bike is not smooth😅
There's no point of fighting about which is better. They both justify their pricing.
Take a test ride, and decide which one is suiting you better.
Exactly. Let's bash Royal Enfield😂😂
@@nischalk1336 🌚
@@JH09SUMIT👽
@@nischalk1336gt 650 is just a piece of trash can and gets praised by some intellectual chapris
Try Honda CB300R too, it has more low end torque and feels quite refined, milage per litre is 34 to 38kmpl which is nice for 300cc motorcycle and a great choice for long term as it's super reliable
Please strap a V box to check correct 0-100 timings, KTM has minimal speedo errors, so a 100kmph on TVS speedo ‘will’ not be equal to KTM’s speedo.
Also LC4c engine is researched and designed by KTM Austria engineers like LC8 family of engines used on bigger dukes, don’t say Bajaj created the engine, they just manufactured it.
Yeah
TVS 100km = KTM 92-95km
They've meticulously carved out this Duke with the only intent of making it the best, in every aspect and it shows. It's pretty hard to make such motorcycles at such prices. What a roller-coaster of a turnkey year this has been. Of all the launches that got me excited, this is by far the best and most awaited and it didn't disappoint one bit. Prospective owners note, this is the bike that's gotten nothing but praises from the entire journo brethren of India unanimously with nothing left to nitpick, literally nothing. If you plan to go for this bike, your investment is going to the right place.
What a bike! What a show KTM! Take a bow!
I don't understand why this youtubers are comparing this with Duke 390 it should be compared with Duke 250 to be honest
@@breaker981even if you compare TVs against Duke 250
KTM would be still the better choice
@@amalronaldo not won't be a better choice unless you are biased towards ktm lol.
@@breaker981 TVS without any kit is still more expensive than Duke 250 2024 and it's also more heavy and no QC and TC as default in TVS
If you add the kit TVC cost as much as 390
Either way it can't match the performance of 390 or the affordability of 250
How am I biased here
Plus the vibrations are more on the RTR. Manageable but annoying enough that a lot of auto journos have mentioned it.
Duke for performance ❤
Apache for tech ❤
Both are love ❤❤
Apache for tech... lmao😂
@@ranjansutradhar1046which tech??? Only the AC seats are good.. that's for sure
@@cartoonsinhindi1023 just see before commenting, I have laughed by the phrase Apache for tech , anyways nvm 👍🏾
@@ranjansutradhar1046 ok
Performance is always much better than useless features.
I honestly like RTR way more better look than KTM. Also, the tyre pressure monitoring which is an underrated and the display looks way more cooler than KTM. Best comparison in terms of power and features.
Ktm is practical machine not a gimmicky machine loaded with unwanted features
@@YunusKash02may b u don't need..but there are who need those features 😂
Compare the Duke 250 with rtr 310 and it will crush the 250 any day although the price range is similar.
@@breaker981 tvs is kinda playing a trick where they are showing base price but after adding adjustable suspension and other options its price end up in ballpark of ktm and its not as good as machine as ktm 390
so please only consider the price of rtr after addition of additional recommended options
Bhai kya milega ye sab bolke real life me duke achi lagti h or jada log use hi dekhte h bhid bhad me rtr ko koi nhi dekhta jab 390 aati h baki me bhi rtr310 lene vala hu par looks to duke ke hi ache h
I'd say apache is overall better buy in the long run. Tpms, cooled seat and cruise control are features that you can't do without if you ever get them. Ktm guys will say you don't drive features which is true but nobody races everyday either! And rtr is no slouch in performance department, sure ktm might be better but I'd rather have other things too with a bit loss in performance. Who drags race everyday on Indian road and who pays for a track even if you have it in your city. If you use your brain, rtr is a 100% better buy.
Features of Apache may be attracting you but the problem with TVS is their mechanics don't even know how to service rtr160 4v
@@user_Shadow_YT Service is not a complicated thing in my books, everyone in this day and age can easily service their own vehicle unless it's a major service like checking valve clearances and all that. Oil change filter change anyone can do. One thing I'll say is that when a new product is launched, there are problems always and it takes time to finesse a product. So I wouldn't jump on rr310 but after a first few lots, I'd buy it without thinking of service issues cus if there aren't any fundamental problems with the product, then there is not much that can go wrong with modern vehicles! Nowadays, anything you buy that has been in the market for an year or two wouldn't have any major issues. And these aren't 200hp bikes either that would need special mechanics. In the end it's a small single cylinder engine.
@@user_Shadow_YTthats concern
I don't understand why this youtubers are comparing this with Duke 390 it should be compared with Duke 250 to be honest
@@breaker981 exactly, fully specked rr310 is still 50-60k cheaper than duke 390. Those who really don't do track days and don't do everyday chores at 120kmph are better off with rr310. This shouldn't even be a debate. It's just Indian's hating Indian products for some reason!
Glad that manufacturers still focusing on premium ICE bikes. Instead of EVs.
An under belly exhaust could've been a banger for the rtr310
I am appreciating the TVS for setting up a bench mark ,but TVS should have provided the heated grips on handlebar as well because no one is going to ride the bike only with a heated bum to ladakh or Himalayas
U want induction cooking and television capabilities also in duke?... nowadays people need everything 😂😂
Also a cup holder, music system, back rest for rider. Etc and list goes on.
hands have soo many controls and functions to do, frozen hands makes it too hard to squeeze the breaks & close the clutch again and again frequently; but bum has nothing to do except sitting in a place, still it is a very practical feature💯
😂 People always find a way to complain.
@@oldbot64 yeah this guy is a joke, just like you 😂😂
Watched full tech comparison between 310 and 390 and decided to Go For Bullet Classic 350 😂
Bruhh
Average of 310 and 390 is 350 🤪
But why
It so happened i went to buy Hyosung 650,and instead bought duke 390 in the 2013,only reason for buying was switchable ABS,and at price 2,15000 on road mumbai was s great deal,it was eye catchig bike at that period of time.
Are you sure about the price...?
I still have 2015 Duke 390, and i bought it for Rs.2,10,000/- on-road(Pune)...!
@@akshaydhanorkar my bad brother typing mistake its actually 2,15000
The more tech, the more worries... miss the pure ICE's of the yamahas and the suzukis..
How did KTM get it wrong so horribly with the tyres. Sticker rubbers should have been kept as optional
Price probably. Anyway just swap it out after a few months.
I think Duke 250 (2.39 L) is the best competitor for RTR 310 (2.42 L) in terms of Price.
Among those Apache wins in everything hands down
Apache most features are gimmick. Duke is more reliable than TVs. Plus TVs looks like a Chinese knock off. Duke 390 anyday.
Chapri detected, opinion rejected
Current new duke 390 is probably the worst design I've ever seen... previous model was quite good looking....but u can't deny that rtr 310 look way better than duke...and is more Value for money broo....
Duke is more reliable than TVS says the guy who drinks milk from the same TVS XL from the day he was born.
@@hiteshadhikari Your non sense has been declined
Chup be chu, if someone like Duke, you call them chapri, stop being a brainless meatball, if you like TVS doesn't mean you call the other person chapri.@@hiteshadhikari
I think Apache will won your heart if you don't need too much power as the 390 provides.
ONLY DUKE doesn't have an AC seat, Only 30 thousand more than TVS APACHE RTR 310
It has bi directional quickshifter and KTM was the 1st one to provide it in this segment since bs4 varient...get your info checked properly 🤡🤡
Gand ko AC kon lagata hai Bike mai
@@bharathkalyankumar8861ktm quick shifter was a joke man, it was so bad.
People had to close throttle to shift one way which basically meant it wasnt really bi directional
Yes the newer one has it better than older 390 but people have still called the rtr one much better unit
Ac seat, cruise control and corner cruise control, better screen and package, better tyres
@@hiteshadhikari when you can't afford duke 390, you will say this , hahaaha
Which one have raw power??? And stability I don't want features only break and long term engine
Duke gets dominar 400 side mirrors 😬
Yes, I didn't like that look. It should have been sharp.😊
@@briandsouza7854to bhut y😊
KTM should have gone with Super Duke mirrors
Still looks great
Duke 250 vs. TVS 310 rtr base model comparison, similarly priced.
Ok this won my heart all other yters knew this is what viewers want yet they chose to ignore it but not motorbeam ❤
Duke 390 is the best bike...
But beginners should stay away from it.. first use 200cc bike for couple of years.
Definitely Yes!
I am liking the apache design a little more
Top speed of Duke 390 is somewhere around 173-175
Ha bilkul bcz ye bhai sirf 160 bol raha hai zutha sala
*177-180
And still the engine feels understressed compared to Apache
Please make video TVS 310 vs Honda CB 300r
Ktm had to increase the cc to get more out of it .
Unfortunately tvs has cc disadvantage but would be a better road bike
I don't understand why this youtubers are comparing this with Duke 390 it should be compared with Duke 250 tobe honest
Lagta he tvs ne aur bhi kuch diya motorbeam ko Thailand bulaake 😂,chakan me sirf bajaj ne canteen ka Khana khilaake bhejdiya 😂
Boths are best in their respective segments and usages. Very good comparison.
Whooooooo! An indian company competing with KTM 😮 great to see that ! Jai Bharat ❤
Ktm is made by bajaj here so Indian vs Indian it's not the 1000cc real KTM bike.
KTM all small Cc engine are manufactured in India
I'll take the underrated Honda CB300R over these too because of refinement & reliability, more low end torque and more mature looks. Milage per litre is also great, 34 to 38kmpl
Highway pe rr310 bhi 36 ka average de deti hai agar 90-95 pe cruise karo to
Both bike looks fenomenal but personally i most like the dising of RTR 310
The comparison we wanted 🔥
Actually I am waiting for COMPARISON VIDEO..
Thanks for update.. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Both are good But the Cost of Duke 390 is way too High , Almost 4 lakh ...
3.6-7 lakh, and tvs costs 3 lakh for top variant
Duke is only expensive by 7k compared to fully loaded topmodel (adjustable suspension, cooling seat, bi direction quick shifterl, cornering abs, etc)of rtr310
@@itgoat1328exshowroom or onroad?
@@nighthawk4028 seriously?
@@nighthawk4028 nope, even with special colour scheme, rtr costs 30 k lesser ex showroom
The main problem with the Apache 310 is the service center. TVS service centers are not that good for 310 series.
Thats why I am hesitating to buy TVS bikes.😂😜
First 10 second drag race answered all the questions
Apache with much more speedo error.....ina drag race Apache will not get any chance against duke...ayush verma just tested the performance of duke ....it is exactly similar like bs4 duke...go check his channel
I think KTM has more usable Features than RTR310
Seriously I think cooling seats and Cruise control is waste for 300cc bike instead of that they should have worked on engine and make it even more smooth
Vem pro Brazil apache ❤🇧🇷
I have ridden both duke 390 old one and bmw g310 rr which is somewhat same as this apache. I love ktm but in long run if u use bike daily, ktm no where matches tvs/bmw. Tvs has better heat management, good ground clearance, good mileage.
When comes to power, handling and parts quality Duke is far better although it had vibrations. I don't understand why this youtubers are comparing this with Duke 390 it should be compared with Duke 250 tobe honest
Duke for the infamous Overheat
RTR for the crazy vibration
Man thanks for giving really early comparison review.......this helps lot........🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I prefer duke for under belly exhaust.Bigger exhaust is a hindarance
KTM Duke is for 3.53 lakhs & Tvs Apache base model is for 3.15 Lakhs on Road here in Ludhiana Punjab but price difference is insane . Awesome job by TVs ❤
Ok now talk about after sales service of TVS😵💫
I think rtr is value for money expect exhaust design everything is fine in the rtr but in Ktm they messed up the design with good lc4 engine the looks matter too
390 looks like a beast. Its personal
tvs is kinda making fool of people
2.44 is only base price
if u add price of quickshifter , adjustable suspension , climate control seat , other imu
its price crossed 3 lakh ex showroom
but tvs is marketing as if all of this is included in base variant
duke cost 15 thousand more and is already equipped with adjustable suspension , quick shifter and it is a lot powerfull bike
i think people should be more aware of this
please inform others
I'll take Honda CB300R over these too, More mature looks, much more reliable and more low end torque
@@clickbaitpro yes it good does it launched in India?
Any chance we get a Speed 400 vs RTR 310 comparison? I'm thinking of upgrading from Ronin 225.
Respect to both the motorcycle 😊 but if your budget is low then the tvs is better ......& if you're rich then the duke 390 is good at its power & love to both machine
Apache's engine is smaller than duke 390 so the comparison is not fair...
I don't understand why this youtubers are comparing this with Duke 390 it should be compared with Duke 250 to be honest
TVS should have thought about going the KTM way. Offset monoshock and a new chasis for better cooling. And reduce the prices so that the market is disrupted.
2.45 lakh, what do u want ? Even for loaded spec aapche the price is 30-50 k lower than ktm
A Japanese bike with these features and competitive pricing would destroy the market
legends waiting for apache 310 gs :)
Dhanil bhai please make a video of RTR310 vs Duke 250 na...I think that's a closer comeptition. Can you also add Speed400 to the mix? I am really confused between the three of them. Nevertheless thank you so much for the energy you bring to these videos!
Suspension of
Bmw 310 r.
Vs .
TVS apache 310 ?
BOTH MOTORCYCLES :-
Advantages : FUN to ride.
😎😃
Disadvantages : Bad Milage.
☹️ 😭 (💰💵💳💷)
Mileage*
Very nice observation Dhanush
Keep it up 👍
Nice thumbnail 👌🏻
He completely forgot to mention the bigger 15 litre tank in D390 compared to 11 litre on rtr310.
im considering duke 390 but my only concern is term "chapri" which comes with bike
I still purchased it, regardless what people say.
You should compare with Duke 250 considering price
Still you guys are comparing 300cc with 400cc 😪🤦♂️
I don't understand why this youtubers are comparing this with Duke 390 it should be compared with Duke 250 tobe honest
A better comparison would be 2024 Duke 250 and Apache RTR 310, considering their pricing and similar power to weight ratio.
But we haven’t got to ride the new 250, can’t really say much about it unless I ride it
@@DhanilVirahave you rode the 2024 Duke 390?
Raw Power and speed - Duke 390
Decent power Bike with lot of features -RTR 310
Ford ecosport titanium diesel 2016 (Dec). 1st owner. 80k km driven. 6 Airbags. Here 15yrs on diesel.
Price- 3.50l
Worth?
Kind off, check the vehicle once completely before getting. Of course try to bargain if you can.
Disclaimer - I am just guessing it's worth it based on the info you have given. Please don't raise a case against me in case the car is not worth it. Cheers man.
@@stevej5930 😒. Too much fear u have got
@@johnorton4418 better safe than sorry man.
If Apache had bigger tank shrouds, it would look much better.
To be fair, RTR should be compared with duke 250 as the price difference is smaller compared to 390 and 310.
@@nepotz where are you from bro?
The difference between 250 and top rtr is around 25k here in my state. Whereas the difference between top rtr and 390 is around 60k.
@@bloody_me_put-inno bro..the top model has an ex showroom price of 3.8L ..the 2.5L model had no features
@Tobin_46 where did you check the price? because whereever I've checked, it shows ex showroom price of 2.6 lacs.
@@Tobin_46bro there's no way exshowroom price is 3.8L 😂
I'll help u breakdown the costs
2.4L - base
2.5L - sepang blue
2.6L - with quickshifter
2.95L all those extra features with quickshifter and sepang blue
Appache looks like a franken bike to me, a bit of Ducati streetfighter, duke 790 subframe..and there is a lot of going on with that bike.
Why people are not making duke 250 ride & functions review video ???
Is that seat cooling function available to the pillion in 310 RTR ??
No
...these r the machines beyond the reach of the avearage joe !! Expensive to buy, maintain and run, the best engine capacity for Indian sport bike market is 160 to 200 cc. They provide enjoyable power, torque and also sensible fuel average . Tvs must focus on their RTR 160 4v and 2004v , these two machines r in a desperate need of an update eg. Usd forks, color instrument panel, 100mm radial front tyre, better side stand, hazard lights etc. 😥😥
Simple duke for performance and Apache for features
I don't understand why this youtubers are comparing this with Duke 390 it should be compared with Duke 250 to be honest
Dhanil bhai Rtr 310 or new Duke 250 for
refinement and quality ride experience with
a good top end with very less vibrations
0-100 is probably wrong with apache, must be having a lot of speedo error
Yea and also Duke does 0-100 pretty quickly around 5 secs a lil more than 5 .
No backlit switches for Duke 390?????
Its always had backlit switches
How the service will be for d390 and tvs 310
I actually agree that tech saves u a lot in TVS, but due to that u don't learn much as a newbie...... so if u r given another bike u just can't handle coz u would be so used to the bike taking care of you 🥲
KTM Duke 390 ❤❤❤
Please make a review video on Aprilia rs 457 🙏🏻
How to compare 310 390 almost 100cc bigger than tvs
Duke has heating issue Apache has vibration issue
I think the best competition rtr 310 base model vs duke 250
Buy interceptor 650, it gives the same fuel economy with 180+ top speed and also it is a twin cylinder bike, so super smooth engine.
Tvs 310cc vs Ktm 399cc. I would say well done TVS.
35 hp vs 45 hp
2.45 vs 3.10 lakh (base vs base)
@@karpich1994 rtr base variant doesnt have adjustable suspension or quickshifter while in duke you get this in base variant
if u add climate control feature which tvs is marketing its ex room price crosses 3 lakh
at that price just buy 390 💀💀
Design of Duke is too much, samne se dekh ke haar maa-baap gali denge
how abt vibration at the speed of 100 n 110kmph for apache...!!
why almost equal/less top seed on Duke inspite of having 10hp and 10nm torque more??
The Duke does 0-100 in about 5.6 secs ig or even faster.
And also I feel TV's has speedo error .💀💪🏾
@@kshli actually all bikes has speedo error, some has more and some has lesser, Even the gopro gps speed isnt the accurate one ,thats why V box are used in professional racings, but Yeah this duke 400 is is quicker
@@chotu5175 Yep bro, Also suggest me some anime or any good webseries which I can watch on utube rn I'm bored .
What would be the On road price of Apache RTR 310 in Telangana .....?
RTR 310 ka headlight kuch zayda hi mota aur bada de diya😂😂😂
Can you order the taller seat for the KTM or the spacer, if yes how to?
Most helpful one about duke and apache very helpful thank you
Apache looks like first copy of duke 390😂
Ghanta
possibly i would get hate for this comment but i honestly like the older design of 390 Duke and 390 RC new designs are just whatever, and what's with that orange colour it's literally tooooo much, and that blue is also not very attractive, older genereation naado gray type colour was the best i would say and yes i miss the white varient..
I think duke should be compared with ninja 400 cause it's a 400 or with r3 and apache 310 with cb300r r3 ninja 300
Wonderful review. The conclusion super. For once someone gave us clear conclusion than leaving it on the fence
Make video on Speed 400 vs new duke 390
KTM Duke 390 2024 bike vs Kawasaki ninja 300 drag race video please bhaiya 😊😊😊