From what I have seen on YT this model likes the upper 60's to 75 gr boolets... I snagged one of these rifles a couple months ago and finally got it to the range earlier this week... Tossed a Nikon 4-14x40 I had in the inventory, new Waren mounts, did drop in a lighter trigger spring also. Im not a reloader, love your passion but, dont have the time to invest at your level... to just get out and shoot the rifle for the first time I have a ton of Federal 55 gr BS NATO ammo... this has to be one of the most fun guns Ive owned... on avg with this 55 gr ammo I know it does not like, 2" groups, shot a couple hundred rounds, got one or two 1.5"s... Just grabbed some Hornady Frontier 75gr HPBT Match at Scheels yesterday, Tuesday next week back to the range,,,, w00t!!! and if you all dont know, this rifle is shorter than a 10/22, and weighs nothing to boot,,,
Heck yeah sounds like some fun was had. You dont have to reload for this rifle to get it to shoot. I may do a followup video on it with some factory ammo if ammo can be had. Thanks for watching!
I love mine. Fun and cheap to shoot and I do a lot of coyote hunting i mainly use m855s because that’s really all there is around me and can’t find any hunting 223 so I end up using fmjs but it works fine
Have the same rifle with a YHM t2 on the end.. it’s 1.2 “ groups at 100 with m193 just picked up some Fiocchi 69 grain SMK hope they do as good as yours !
LOL I could show the long hand way of calculating SD but it wouldn't make for very interesting must see content. So just use an online SD calculator its a lot faster. Thanks for watching!
I shot a 1.17 MOA group with bargain basement ammo at 100 yd, with the standard 4 lb trigger. I can halve that with match grade ammo. With a pound and a half trigger maybe even better. Going to proceed with both of those things.
Have you ever tried 40g projectiles out of your 223 ? I'm fox shooting every night at the moment and I'm using nosler varmageddon's 40g with 27 grains of adi 2206h , .3 groups at a 100 .... Nothing wrong with your shooting either , excellent groups. .....
Now that you`ve found your powder load, start working with your OAL. Have you measured how far off the rifle lands your bullet is sitting? Its much easier to find better accuracy by changing your OAL and dial the load in by seating the bullet off the lands probably around .015 to .020ths for a start. Before you shoot your ammo, i recommend checking the concentricity of your ammo. You`d be shocked at how much better it will shoot if the bullet is seated straighter in the chamber.
Yeah I'm at a bit of a disadvantage with this rifle as I want to take advantage of the AR15 style magazine so I'm only able to lad to mag length. I thought about single loading it to try and take advantage of a longer OAL but I think that kind of defeats the purpose of a rifle like this. With that said I'm pretty happy with the overall performance. Maybe Ill get an actual bench rifle in 223 I can play around with more variables on but for this one I think I'm pretty well set on the OAL. Thanks for watching!
@@TheHide Yup i hear that brother. Mags will limit yah for sure. Thats what kept me from buying the ruger ranch rifle and i bought the Howa 1500 223 w the 20 inch heavy barrel instead. Turned it into a tackdriver. Your shooting is no joke budd, damn good shootin! I do enjoy your video`s alot! I find myself looking for them everyday now. ;)
Loved the video! Been tossing around the idea of picking one of these up soon. What’s the barrel length of this model? The 16” or the 22” Predator? Thanks!
OK, I know this video was a while ago but I just got comment 223😎 I must say the performance of some of these rather inexpensive factory rifles is amazing🤓
I've had the same rifle for about a year, it is amazing for the money. It shoots about any reload I've made for it good. 77 grain sierra tmk with tac powder is working really good.
@@TheHide yes sir. I started off with factory 556 loads from I believe imi had some issues. I thought hard primer so I loaded 20 rounds with Remington primers and 20 with cci. The cci primers worked the best with only two light strikes as the Remington got 7 light strikes. From my understanding Remington has harder primers so I wanted to load them as a base test. I haven’t pulled the firing pin out yet to see if there’s any problems. I hope it’s just dirt or carbon and I don’t have to send the whole gun in for them to say they found nothing and it keeps having the same problem.
@@michaeljoyce3153 Yes Remington does have a bit harder primer than most. It may be an issue where you may need to clean out the firing pin from the bolt. I wonder if you may have a piece of carbon in there or something else gumming it up not allowing it to fully contact the primer.
@@TheHide I pulled the firing pin from the bolt and found a piece of metal that wasn’t fully cut off in the machining process. It looks like I can remove it with a piece of sand paper glued to the end of an old cleaning rod. If not I’ll be contacting ruger and having them deal with it.
@@michaeljoyce3153 Yeah be very careful doing anything mechanical you can void the warranty. So if it looks like there might be something that needs removed just put it back together and send it to Ruger lol
Glad I pick this rifle up.
I haven’t been disappointed
Love the video, love the data and reloading aspect of shooting. And I especially love to crunch the numbers
Great video. Thank you for taking the time for making the vid and showing.
Appreciate ya watching!
Keep it up just what I have been looking for. I hope it helps me with my Ruger Am Ranch, besides it is very clear concise and to the point.
Just bought one in .556 these rifles are nail drivers. Put 3 shot group in thumb nail first day shooting. 3 hours two scopes. Awesome rifle
Yeah up until I got my bench gun in 223 this was by far the most precise shooting 5.56/223 bolt gun Ive shot to date. thanks for watching!
Well done Sir, not to mention interesting. My 223 Mcgowen 24" bull barrel 1/9 twist loves those 69gr. Pills.👍🇺🇸💥
Yeah its hard to beat those 69gr projo's they get it done! Thanks for watching!
My 2 Howas love the Aussie outback ammo 69ers. 1/2” at 100 yards Out of the box. Those last two groups were good big fella
Ive wanted to try that stuff, Ive seen it a couple times locally but no one ever keeps it around here. Thanks for watching!
From what I have seen on YT this model likes the upper 60's to 75 gr boolets... I snagged one of these rifles a couple months ago and finally got it to the range earlier this week... Tossed a Nikon 4-14x40 I had in the inventory, new Waren mounts, did drop in a lighter trigger spring also. Im not a reloader, love your passion but, dont have the time to invest at your level... to just get out and shoot the rifle for the first time I have a ton of Federal 55 gr BS NATO ammo... this has to be one of the most fun guns Ive owned... on avg with this 55 gr ammo I know it does not like, 2" groups, shot a couple hundred rounds, got one or two 1.5"s... Just grabbed some Hornady Frontier 75gr HPBT Match at Scheels yesterday, Tuesday next week back to the range,,,, w00t!!! and if you all dont know, this rifle is shorter than a 10/22, and weighs nothing to boot,,,
Heck yeah sounds like some fun was had. You dont have to reload for this rifle to get it to shoot. I may do a followup video on it with some factory ammo if ammo can be had. Thanks for watching!
I love mine. Fun and cheap to shoot and I do a lot of coyote hunting i mainly use m855s because that’s really all there is around me and can’t find any hunting 223 so I end up using fmjs but it works fine
Heck yeah sounds like a solid setup!! Thanks for watching!!
Have the same rifle with a YHM t2 on the end.. it’s 1.2 “ groups at 100 with m193 just picked up some Fiocchi 69 grain SMK hope they do as good as yours !
Nice! I bet it will. Its honestly crazy how well these shoot in this caliber. Definitely a favorite here at The Hide even today. Thanks for watching
I'd love it if you could post how you work out the Standard Deviation??😵💫 Great video by the way!! I'm following your model.
LOL I could show the long hand way of calculating SD but it wouldn't make for very interesting must see content. So just use an online SD calculator its a lot faster. Thanks for watching!
I shot a 1.17 MOA group with bargain basement ammo at 100 yd, with the standard 4 lb trigger. I can halve that with match grade ammo. With a pound and a half trigger maybe even better. Going to proceed with both of those things.
Awesome! Thanks for watching..
Great stuff man.
Thanks for watching!
Great info! Good video, thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Have you ever tried 40g projectiles out of your 223 ? I'm fox shooting every night at the moment and I'm using nosler varmageddon's 40g with 27 grains of adi 2206h , .3 groups at a 100 .... Nothing wrong with your shooting either , excellent groups. .....
I have not, but do have some 50gr Vmax I believe. I may have to snag a box of 40s just to see how they do! Thanks for watching!
I shot a 40g vmax over tac, it’s a nail driver
I place an open carboard box right where your paper sheet is.
Expended cases kicked right into the box.
For Handloading . . .
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Good plan! Thanks for watching..
Now that you`ve found your powder load, start working with your OAL. Have you measured how far off the rifle lands your bullet is sitting?
Its much easier to find better accuracy by changing your OAL and dial the load in by seating the bullet off the lands probably around .015 to .020ths for a start.
Before you shoot your ammo, i recommend checking the concentricity of your ammo. You`d be shocked at how much better it will shoot if the bullet is seated straighter in the chamber.
Yeah I'm at a bit of a disadvantage with this rifle as I want to take advantage of the AR15 style magazine so I'm only able to lad to mag length. I thought about single loading it to try and take advantage of a longer OAL but I think that kind of defeats the purpose of a rifle like this. With that said I'm pretty happy with the overall performance. Maybe Ill get an actual bench rifle in 223 I can play around with more variables on but for this one I think I'm pretty well set on the OAL. Thanks for watching!
@@TheHide
Yup i hear that brother. Mags will limit yah for sure.
Thats what kept me from buying the ruger ranch rifle and i bought the Howa 1500 223 w the 20 inch heavy barrel instead. Turned it into a tackdriver.
Your shooting is no joke budd, damn good shootin! I do enjoy your video`s alot! I find myself looking for them everyday now. ;)
@@D70340 Thats funny I reviewed that same Howa for the channel a few years back lol. Awesome shooting rifle! Thanks for the support and watching!
You can get a single shot adapter for under 20 bucks. Load as long as you want at that point
Loved the video! Been tossing around the idea of picking one of these up soon. What’s the barrel length of this model? The 16” or the 22” Predator? Thanks!
This is a 16, thanks for watching!!
Hide, love this video. Do you have this Velocity Data sheet downloadable for us poors?
Yes I do on my Patreon!! I also have it on the Facebook page as well I believe. Thanks for watching!!
@@TheHide oh awesome i didnt know you had a patreon :) i will find you on there.
@Caleb Lummer Thanks brother!!
OK, I know this video was a while ago but I just got comment 223😎 I must say the performance of some of these rather inexpensive factory rifles is amazing🤓
Totally agree, this was by far one of the most accurate rifles Ive ever had.. Thanks for watching!
@@TheHide I built a savage axis on a Boyd at1 stock, pillar and epoxy bedded
And it shoots awesome, Well done and have a great day
I've had the same rifle for about a year, it is amazing for the money. It shoots about any reload I've made for it good. 77 grain sierra tmk with tac powder is working really good.
Good video man!
Appreciate it!
Holli shit that location is soooo beautiful I wish I had a place like that to shoot
you need to add all that data to your original ladder test to see if that plateau was real.
Great information. Where do you get your targets?
Was any of the loads compressed.?
Just found your channel looking for a cure to a problem but subscribed now. Have you had any problems with light primer strikes by chance?
Thanks I appreciate the support! No I haven't had any issues related to primers. Could it be just the ammo your using?
@@TheHide yes sir. I started off with factory 556 loads from I believe imi had some issues. I thought hard primer so I loaded 20 rounds with Remington primers and 20 with cci. The cci primers worked the best with only two light strikes as the Remington got 7 light strikes. From my understanding Remington has harder primers so I wanted to load them as a base test. I haven’t pulled the firing pin out yet to see if there’s any problems. I hope it’s just dirt or carbon and I don’t have to send the whole gun in for them to say they found nothing and it keeps having the same problem.
@@michaeljoyce3153 Yes Remington does have a bit harder primer than most. It may be an issue where you may need to clean out the firing pin from the bolt. I wonder if you may have a piece of carbon in there or something else gumming it up not allowing it to fully contact the primer.
@@TheHide I pulled the firing pin from the bolt and found a piece of metal that wasn’t fully cut off in the machining process. It looks like I can remove it with a piece of sand paper glued to the end of an old cleaning rod. If not I’ll be contacting ruger and having them deal with it.
@@michaeljoyce3153 Yeah be very careful doing anything mechanical you can void the warranty. So if it looks like there might be something that needs removed just put it back together and send it to Ruger lol
Very good your videos..!!!
Thanks, appreciate ya watching..
What is your oal on this load, i load these a mag length didn’t know if you do something diferente
Nice group
Thanks!
Is it “Oh-give, or Oh-jive”!? Everyone calls it something different
It’s the second one
what can/cal. you running ?
Its a Gemtech Trek II 5.56. Thanks for watching!
@@TheHide I was looking at that just the other day.
@@sc6802 I like it. Great can..