To be fair Roy abandoned his son. He is probably the irresponsible 'I'll get to it someday type'. Bet he was practice murdering and always planned to get to Vic someday but Life got in the way like it had in so many of Roy's plans before
I choose to believe the apparent age discrepancy with Creighton Duke is he is younger than he appears. The trauma from his encounter with Jason and his obsession-induced stress in the following years aged him up. Kinda like the before and after pictures of WWII vets.
And even without stress it’s not like it’s unheard of for people in their 30 or even 20’s to look like they are in their 40’s some people just always look much older than they are
What happened was jason killed his girlfriend and duke spent his life reasearching him and found how to kill him in the movie his past with jason got cut
It’s my head canon that Jason didn’t drown, he washed up on the other side of the lake where an old hermit who lives in the part 2 shack found him while he was fishing, and took him in. He taught Jason how to kill wildlife to survive in the woods. And because of his deformity, the hermit would make Jason wear the sack on his head (because why would Jason do that himself?). Eventually Jason would have kill the hermit, and as the campfire story in part 2 goes, he watched his mother get killed. From there he got his revenge on Alice and the rest is history..
Maybe he found a bag of potatoes and stuck his head inside to search for more when the bag went empty and he couldn't figure out how to get his head back out. I've seen my dog do this with boxes and Jason doesn't really give the impression of being too bright
Or he just wanted to keep the head fresh longer while he waited for the perfect moment to strike and stuck it in the fridge. Could be he coincidentally murdered her after she opened the door.
With Roy it’s simple. His mask and possibly his outfit is padded. The strength thing, I think, could just be from him “snapping”, going crazy, full blown rage strength from the loss of his son. (Or for all we know, Roy could be a power lifter in his off time!)
If we take Duke's deleted backstory about his girlfriend as canon, then I have an idea about the "little girl in a pink dress" line. The reporter askes what he thinks when he hears "Jason Voorhees." Naturally, Duke would think of his girlfriend and the night she was killed. He has a reputation as a fearless badass to maintain, so he dares not let his grief be seen by the public. Duke copes by making a crass response while still being somewhat truthful about what he feels hearing Jason's name. 1. Little girl. His girlfriend would have been much younger at the time than Duke's current age, obviously. 2. Pink dress. She was dressed in pink clothing. 3. Sticking a hot dog through a donut. They made love that night, possibly for the first and last time.
My theory about Roy is that, working at an ambulance and almost sure an hospital, he has access to a lot of drugs. Probably took a good coctail to be able to take that amount of punishment.
I am totally for the aspect that Jason and his replacement in the 5th film both are imbued with supernatural powers. They display elite and sometimes impossible levels of strength and endurance. It helps to explain a lot of... oddities lol
Cinema Snob also said this about Jason going to Alice's house: " if I saw somebody that looked like Jason Voorhees carrying a severed head, I would not fuck with that person
I used to live in that part of Jersey: Once Jason got to Central Jersey = He could walk all day and night through the woods and possible never encounter a person, depending on the time of year.
This reminds me of a major opportunity the series never pursued: Jason getting up to something in a New Jersey winter, instead of his usual summer rampages.
On Trent: I have heard of people buying places that used to belong to other families and locals still referring to it by the previous owner's name. It depends on how locally famous the previous owners were. Sutton could also be the maiden name of Trent's mother and the cabin could belong to her side of the family.
The last time he did this, I learned that there were novelizations of the Friday the 13th movies. I found that to be silly. This time, I learned there were novelizations of the Michael Bay Transformers movies. The Friday the 13th books don't seem silly anymore.
I like the solution for Roy. It has prompted me to give part 5 another shot. I've never cared for it as much,but that theory changes the movie completely
I just assumed in Friday 9 he never spoke earlier because didnt know he could. After hopping a few bodies he was still learning the limits of the associated abilities
Yes! Someone actually got the Alice answer correct! For real, I had read the novelisation if Friday Part 2 as well. She would actually go down to where it all happened, back to the camp even. And yes he finally tracked her down living right in the town of Crystal Lake! I have tried explaining this so much. And the series did not feature any supernatural elements at all until Jason Lives. After that we see victims run, Jason walks and catches up, definitely some elements of teleportation, and upon becoming undead the Necricominon is featured, the magic dagger, and Jason having super human strength and becoming indistructable.
He does soak up an inhuman out of damage only to get back up and keep going. Plus I can't imagine even the strongest human being having the strength to crush a human skull let alone the skull of a fairly large guy and Jason somehow possesses this level of strength despite having done zero strength training and just being a .bit bigger than an average guy. Sounds supernatural to me
You are more correct than you realize when you refer to Jason as a revenant. This whole thing was set up in part 6 with the occult manual and living with the dead books that Tommy used to research how to stop Jason. The reason Tommy decides to trap Jason in the lake is that revenants have only one method to stop them that varies with each and is ried to a tragedy ( usually a first death they suffered) as you pointed out revenants return for a single purpose in Jason's case vengeance due to his mother's death and also against young people as he was tormented by them... also all of Jason's abilities are covered by revenant description check the menace manual d20 modern rpg
I STILL need to know what happened to Jason's body. When he drowned? Is it still in the bottom of the Lake? We saw Pamela's grave, where's his? Did they just leave him? Did Pamela go Crazy and make up the story cause he ALMOST drowned and started going off on the staff of the lake? Did she loose custody and make it up in her mind he was dead cause she didn't have him anymore and killed the staff cause of that?
It’s my head canon that Jason didn’t drown, he washed up on the other side of the lake where an old hermit who lives in the part 2 shack found him while he was fishing, and took him in. He taught Jason how to kill wildlife to survive in the woods. And because of his deformity, the hermit would make Jason wear the sack on his head (because why would Jason do that himself?). Eventually Jason would have kill the hermit, and as the campfire story in part 2 goes, he watched his mother get killed. From there he got his revenge on Alice and the rest is history..
If he went into hiding in the woods after being presumed drowned, authorities may have just assumed his bottom drifted out to sea from the lake. Part 8 makes it clear that the lake is connected to a much larger body of water
You forgot to mention that Chris from Part 3 had a previous encounter with Jason some time prior. The details are vague, but we do know he attacked her and that event could be related to whatever happened to Duke's girlfriend.
I think Jason's father is Crazy Ralph... Crazy Ralph rescued him from the lake and raised him from that point on...Jason escaped from Crazy Ralph... That is why Crazy Ralph was warning everybody...he knew what Jason was capable of!!!!!!
While I can’t speak for his height during filming, and I know some people shrink a bit with age, Kane Hodder is most definitely NOT 6’4” i’m 5’ 11” and when I met him in 2018, we were the same height
24:22 the doughnut comment; is probably the funniest thing from this movie, let alone I still throw that comment out in random social occasions because it’s so off putting it’s hilarious! Arguably that’s probably the only redeeming grace from the entire film for me.
I love these videos! They’re a lot of fun. I did want to say that the character of Trent could be the same guy. I happen to live bear a house that’s called the McFarland place but the people who live there are named Jackson. That’s because the house is known as the McFarland place because 1) the McFarlands built it back in the 30s, and 2) the McFarland’s lived there for years, so if you say the McFarland place to anyone from where I grew up, they know exactly what you’re talking about. I can think of a few examples as well where locals know a place by the people who lived there a long time, even if that’s no longer the case. So hopefully, we CAN see Jason fighting autobots someday! Thanks again for the video! I really like all the stuff you do, but I think unanswered questions would be my personal favorite! Keep the great stuff coming!
i like to think that Pamela resurrected him using the Necrominicon, he awakened when she died; he was damaged so much by Ginny that he hopped bodies into Paul (why he looks different in 3)
Wow. Would have been nice for part 2 to include the novelization explanation for Alice being found by Jason. I couldn't figure out why she wasn't back in Cali, where I assume she's from. Or how Jason found her. This would have been a good throwaway line that could have went along way. Of course, slashers have SlasherGPS that comes with the knife/machete/axe/chainsaw, so that always helps a tad, but sometimes leaves me with continuity blue balls. And since timelines seem to be your thing, I submit Jason grew in part 3, and got the hockey mask because The Road Warrior had been released internationally (I think before f13th pt. 3 filming) and F13th decided to borrow heavily from Lord Humungus. It does go against official statements of "we had the hockey mask for makeup tests) but it just seems too coincidental. imo
Interesting video! I simply love Friday the 13th Part 5 (Always have) i don’t buy into Roy being influenced by Jason at all (The man simply snapped) It mirrors what happened in the original film He was in and around medicine he more then likely took a huge amounts of pain killers while he was doing the killings (That may in fact be the reason Roy killed the other EMT (maybe the guy caught him stealing drugs) plus he was already far gone and just murdered him too… Grief can do various things to peoples psyche he had a nervous break down and snapped and used the The previous massacres as a sort of blue print how to get revenge (When it comes to FT13 Part 5 i could probably write a novel on the film itself) It’s so much deeper and smarter then horror fans give it credit for
The Roy Burns case also totally validated efforts by local officials to tell the public that these killings around Crystal Lake are all deranged copycats of Pamela Voorhees, acting under the cover of a campfire legend.
Stephen King’s novel “Cujo” has a subplot about some kind of evil presence in the town of Castle Rock, including an earlier case of a brutal serial killer in the town (from King’s earlier book “The Dead Zone”). When the rabid St. Bernard kills a particular character, among the man’s last thoughts are that he’s looking into the dog’s eyes and seeing the killer, a man he’d once known as a friend, looking back at him. Was it the ghost of this killer, or maybe the town’s evil presence that brought about both events? (This whole continuity subplot was dropped from the Cujo movie.) The Friday Part 5 novel’s idea, that Jason’s spiritual presence influenced Roy Burns, was quite possibly borrowed from King’s book.
I always appreciate how you try to make sense of the insensible Josh. Of course the easiest and most logical answer for a lot of these is (besides a few instances) there is basically no continuity between the films with different writers, directors, actors, etc. But it's a lot more fun to actually create a continuity, you'd almost wish those filmmakers in the 80s weren't just doing everything on the cheap to make the quick bucks, and actually had more coherence of the whole.
I'm sorry, but you are never going to be done with this series. There's always going to be more questions than answers. And I really hope you never stop answering them. Not only for satisfaction, but for the success of your Channel.
I like the Roy character a lot. If I had my way, the Roy events would happen after the first Friday the 13th movie. Then I would go with Friday the 13th Part 2 and, onwards. People using the folk tail for their own needs is an often missed Trope in horror for the past 40 years. People forget Scooby-Doo.
I’m taking the “little girl in a pink dress” comment as him saying Jason just does things, and he doesn’t know what he is doing yet finds what he does amusing.
I know that's for a completely different brand of RUclips channel, but I think it would be pretty fun to watch you stream something like Friday the 13th: The Game or Alien Isolation.
Yaaay, I got a question answered, awesome lol I kind of prefer your 2nd theory of 'He's Jason God Damn Voorhees, he's special' to the Revenant theory :) Cheers for the explanation Josh 👍
Last Friday the 13th I watched a fan film covering Jason's journey from Manhattan back to Crystal Lake. It's already established that he still kills between movies, actually. Well, maybe not between 2, 3, & 4, but otherwise, he totally does. The big problem with the timeline is the fact that the director for part seven said that it's ten years after part six, yet the director of part 8 decided to make the movie so extremely 80s that it hurt.
In the remake, Jenna embodies what a final girl is in every way. She is even single despite people saying she's Trent's girlfriend. She's, pretty, sweet, caring, kind, and doesn't break any rules. Why did she die.
Jason is a Frankenzombie. That is, he's a corpse resurrected through electricity ala Frankenstein's monster. Though, here, he's just one body and not a stitched together creation. The New Line Cinema films might put a wrench in that. Also, Tommy Jarvis, in part 6, hypothesized that Jason died in the drowning. The latter could be ignored since Tommy doesn't know for sure. There are different routes one can take to explain the discrepancies introduced by the New Line films (e.g., separate universes), but the real life answer is that continuity took a back seat in this franchise most of the time.
Here's a did you know, in paintball there is a surrender rule so all they had to do was point their guns and say surrender and it's an automatic win. Jason would have been eliminated he would have walked to the side and waited his next turn for respawn
Yes. For part 5. The Dreams and Hallucinations of Jason aren't just that. I say its Jason's Ghost! He is Haunting Tommy, which was to drive Tommy insane and back to his grave to free him in pt 6. In part 5. Jason used Roy's anger to "possess" him and give him the ability to Kill Like Jason. I also say that is what happened when the one guy killed Roy's son. Jason Zapped him too. I love Headcanon.
As far as Jason speaking in Manhattan. Look no further than Rennie. Remember her flashbacks to being a girl and child Jason trying to drown her? Was she born about 1950 and just looks really young at the time of her NYC high school senior field trip? No. Like Tina in the New Blood, Rennie is a psychic. By going into Crystal Lake as a girl, she taps into the psychic energy there and sees a projection of Jason as a boy. This same hallucination haunts her aboard the Lazarus. The Child Jason we see at the end after the toxic waste was how Rennie saw Jason. Jason's speaking is what she hears via her psychic connection. She taps into the boy frightened of drowning. This is also why Jason was downed by the wave of waste. Rennie connected to Jason and he regressed in his head. He drowned a second time in that sewer, at least in his head.
q7 - What if Duke's girl friend was killed by Pamela. The two of them thought Camp Crystal Lake would be a good place for some canoodling. After swimming, she was wearing some silly pink dress. He went back to the car for some protection, and Pamela killed her while he was gone. He saw her, but wasn't able to give chase. The thing is, he only saw her in shadows. Later, after 2 -4 happened in one weekend, he decided it had been Jason that killed her and started his research. After that, as you said, there wasn't much downtime, so he never had the chance to get back when Jason was active. Q8 - The first parts to rot on a body are going to be the soft tissue, plus, tongue is a delicacy. He never spoke in his own body, because his tongue rotted out. He never spoke in most of Goes To Hell because he's so used to not being able to - or maybe he just had nothing to say. He's not Freddy Krueger, after all.
It's pretty minor but this is the first question I can't logic out for myself. In part 2, Alice answers the phone shortly before opening the fridge. She thinks her mom is calling again but it's just a hang-up. The musical score starts the tension right there as though indicating that it's ominous or significant. The thing is, I don't think Jason can't dial a phone. Even if he could, there are no cell phones. Maybe I'm reading into nothing but it seems like an odd addition to the scene.
This has been debated for a long time. it probably wasn't Jason calling; he was outside or probably already in the house at the time of the call. It may have been him cutting the line, however.
Have not watched this till the end, but in part 9 How does the towel stay on during a run through the woods and never slips or even hints at coming off AND when did she have time to put on her shoes?
I always thought Jason has possessed people like his Mom, Roy, and (attempting to possess) Tommy. Toni Morrison's Beloved novel has a similar situation where a baby that is murdered comes back from the dead the age she would have been if she had lived.
When you consider the supernatural forces at work, I believe Jason had been haunting the lake before he was fully resurrected. I'll refer to Rennie's flashback in part 8. Maybe Duke's girlfriend was attacked by child Jason? Also, I believe Jason exists physically and spiritually at the same time. Rennie wasn't high when she saw the young Jason while she was on the boat. It could be the same spirit that haunted Tommy, Roy and even Pamela herself
I the reboot Jason was shown to have hunted/trapped animals if I remember correctly. There was a scene or two showing hides or skewered animals or something. Been a while since I've seen it. So maybe he's just living off the land.
I've watched all 3 of the unanswered questions for Friday the 13th and i notice one thing wasn't brought up yet. Why is Jason Goes to Hell set in Connecticut and not New Jersey?
I wouldn't be surprised if there was more unanswered Evil Dead and scream questions since we're getting a new Evil Dead movie and Scream movie this year
I always figured Roy was supposed to be a Pamela redo. I assumed the chocolate kid was going to be the new "Jason" in the next few movies with the supernatural powers.
Maybe with Roy from part 5...it isn't so much the spirit of Jason himself. but something like you mentioned earlier in the video...there is something with Camp Ground and the land itself.
I have a theory about F13 pt9 (Jason Goes to Hell) -- in my headcanon, it's a genuine, actual crossover with "The Hidden." (The guys who wrote the movie said they had just seen The Hidden and loved it and it influenced them a lot.) I think that after pt8, Jason was occupied by an evil alien (same kind as the evil one in The Hidden) and the bounty hunter guy who inexplicably knows so much about Jason is host to a good alien (like Kyle McLachlan's character in The Hidden). Once I came up with this theory, it made me actually really enjoy Pt9, which I used to consider the worst. In fact, hey, this could be a new series for you: Fan Theories and Headcanon!
Why does part 3 start with Jason slipping the blade out of his shoulder, and crawling away to then getting his new drip. Does that confirm then that Jinny was only dreaming the part of him busting through the window and being the lone survivor?
Another theory on Jason's size change is he swapped bodies with Paul, a la "Jason Goes to Hell". That's why we didn't see Paul at the end of part 2. Although, the face is obviously different and doesn't explain why he looked the same in the flashback scene...
My kid had the theory that the reason Jason got bigger in Part 3 was due to swelling brought on by the machete he received to the shoulder in the previous movie. It doesn't explain the height change, but it's something. Jason also seems to be left handed in Part 2, but from Part 3 onward he appears to be right handed. My kid thinks that the shoulder injury was so bad that it forced Jason to switch to his non-dominant hand from then on. I doubt any of this was intended on the filmmakers part, as I don't think they put very much thought into anything in these movies, but it at least allows a way to explain the discrepancy in Jason's appearance as good as anything can.
Something that hasn't been said (or I missed). In part 2, the Mrs. Voorhees shrine scene at the end, there is another skeleton laying in front of Terry's body. Is that Alice's missing body?
A few ideas. 1. With Roy, instead of being possessed by Jason, he could have been possessed by Pam. Both of them went through the same thing and with Pam being a spirit, it could help Roy become stronger then he was. 2. Jason could have died as a boy, in the lake from drowning and brought back by Pam or maybe she hid him away to protect him and went after camp counselors that would go off and have sex, instead of watching the kids. 3. Also the line about "Little Girls and Sticking A Hotdog into A Bun", could be about Jason keeping the girls he killed, in order to have sex with them. Jason is older then the teens, so they are "little girls" and Pam could have tried to make him feel bad for having thoughts of sex, so he was mocking the abuse he suffered about that with the line, "Sticking a Hotdog into A Bun"..
Roy is an EMT. He could have jacked himself up with a bunch of drugs from his own supply. Not like the other EMT could object. We saw that Roy killed him too.
What I find interesting about part 5 is Roy basically kills almost everyone except the guy who kills his son.
LMMFAO!
I always imagined that Roy was saving the actual killer for last, but never got to him, because Tommy.
@@Burori1makes sense that
To be fair Roy abandoned his son. He is probably the irresponsible 'I'll get to it someday type'. Bet he was practice murdering and always planned to get to Vic someday but Life got in the way like it had in so many of Roy's plans before
Yeah... Why Roy didn't finish the one who actually killed his son?
I choose to believe the apparent age discrepancy with Creighton Duke is he is younger than he appears. The trauma from his encounter with Jason and his obsession-induced stress in the following years aged him up. Kinda like the before and after pictures of WWII vets.
And even without stress it’s not like it’s unheard of for people in their 30 or even 20’s to look like they are in their 40’s some people just always look much older than they are
I cam totally buy that.
What If he went to prison for murdering his girlfriend. He got out and had to get his life together so that he could become a bounty hunter...
@@b.l.fisher8230 That is fucking stupid. Obviously jason killed her. Nothing but that makes sense.
What happened was jason killed his girlfriend and duke spent his life reasearching him and found how to kill him in the movie his past with jason got cut
"...we're all about filling in the gaps for fun. So let's have fun!"...thank you for what you do, sir.
It’s my head canon that Jason didn’t drown, he washed up on the other side of the lake where an old hermit who lives in the part 2 shack found him while he was fishing, and took him in. He taught Jason how to kill wildlife to survive in the woods. And because of his deformity, the hermit would make Jason wear the sack on his head (because why would Jason do that himself?). Eventually Jason would have kill the hermit, and as the campfire story in part 2 goes, he watched his mother get killed. From there he got his revenge on Alice and the rest is history..
That's actually what kinda happened he never died physically until prt 4.
Maybe he found a bag of potatoes and stuck his head inside to search for more when the bag went empty and he couldn't figure out how to get his head back out. I've seen my dog do this with boxes and Jason doesn't really give the impression of being too bright
Happy F13 y’all! Thanks Josh for letting us have a chance to chime in on this video.
He knew she would use the fridge because the tea pot was on!
Or he just wanted to keep the head fresh longer while he waited for the perfect moment to strike and stuck it in the fridge. Could be he coincidentally murdered her after she opened the door.
With Roy it’s simple. His mask and possibly his outfit is padded. The strength thing, I think, could just be from him “snapping”, going crazy, full blown rage strength from the loss of his son. (Or for all we know, Roy could be a power lifter in his off time!)
Probably from all those squats from lifting dead teens on a stretcher
@@aceattorneygeneral3922came here to say this😂. Or alternatively Roy is all jacked up on meds he stole from the coroner's office/ hospital?
Bumped up on the marching powder he got off the guy he whacked in the parking lot.
If we take Duke's deleted backstory about his girlfriend as canon, then I have an idea about the "little girl in a pink dress" line.
The reporter askes what he thinks when he hears "Jason Voorhees." Naturally, Duke would think of his girlfriend and the night she was killed. He has a reputation as a fearless badass to maintain, so he dares not let his grief be seen by the public. Duke copes by making a crass response while still being somewhat truthful about what he feels hearing Jason's name.
1. Little girl. His girlfriend would have been much younger at the time than Duke's current age, obviously.
2. Pink dress. She was dressed in pink clothing.
3. Sticking a hot dog through a donut. They made love that night, possibly for the first and last time.
Nothing is wrong with Roy! A New Beginning is one of the better films in the franchise.
I wasn't downing Roy at all, A New Beginning is one of my favorites! I just wanted to hear Josh's take on it, the man has a gift!
@@codyonly7992I wasn’t directing that towards anyone specifically. I’m just a fan of Roy.
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodUnclePete All good, sir! Just wanted to make it clear that I'm a Roy fan too!
Roy! Roy! He's our boy! 5 is one of my favourites regardless of killer
No it's not. Lol
My theory about Roy is that, working at an ambulance and almost sure an hospital, he has access to a lot of drugs. Probably took a good coctail to be able to take that amount of punishment.
Been waiting for this video 🙌🏼
Reggie the Reckless is a character I love to see come back in another sequel.
Agreed. But they would probably mess it up by using a different actor. If they can’t get Shavarr Ross to do it, then it wouldn’t be as good
I heard part 6 was originally supposed to have him and Tommy. Maybe he will show up in the next Never Hike Alone!!
I wanna see Vic go toe-to-toe with Jason. That guy was terrifying
Im not 100% sure but i think his axtor shows up as an extra in one of the 'friday the 13th vengeance' films
He was supposed to return in part 6, but they wanted to kill his character off and his parents wanted no part of it.
Thank You for answering my question. Now I gotta find that comic book lol.
Jason got back to Crystal Lake the same way Bruce Wayne got back to Gotham.
You have put much more thought into matching up these theories than all screen writers put into the whole Fri13th franchise combined. 😃
This series’ fans care more about plot and story explanations than the people who actually made the movies ever did!
These are fun. I dig this channel, kinda revitalized my horror interests
Some great answers you've got there, Mister.
1, Roy was a paramedic who had access to lots of drugs and probably amped himself up. 2, Julie Michaels steals JGTH
Jason's body hopping in Jason Goes To Hell reminds me of what Horace Pinker does in Shocker.
I love Shocker! It’s a great movie 🍿
I am totally for the aspect that Jason and his replacement in the 5th film both are imbued with supernatural powers. They display elite and sometimes impossible levels of strength and endurance. It helps to explain a lot of... oddities lol
Cinema Snob also said this about Jason going to Alice's house: " if I saw somebody that looked like Jason Voorhees carrying a severed head, I would not fuck with that person
I used to live in that part of Jersey: Once Jason got to Central Jersey = He could walk all day and night through the woods and possible never encounter a person, depending on the time of year.
This reminds me of a major opportunity the series never pursued: Jason getting up to something in a New Jersey winter, instead of his usual summer rampages.
Jason is 5' 11", 6' 4" in heels. And he's not a special boy. YOU are the special boy, Josh. Special, special boy!
Thank you for answering my question, Love your theory!
On Trent: I have heard of people buying places that used to belong to other families and locals still referring to it by the previous owner's name. It depends on how locally famous the previous owners were. Sutton could also be the maiden name of Trent's mother and the cabin could belong to her side of the family.
Lol....I just made roughly the same comment, minus the maiden name part
Such a great video, Josh! I love that we now know about Jason's secret identity! Happy Friday the 13th!
The last time he did this, I learned that there were novelizations of the Friday the 13th movies. I found that to be silly.
This time, I learned there were novelizations of the Michael Bay Transformers movies. The Friday the 13th books don't seem silly anymore.
I like the solution for Roy. It has prompted me to give part 5 another shot. I've never cared for it as much,but that theory changes the movie completely
Jason Vorhees, having grown up with that name, ultimately went down the darkest path of all.
I think a much simpler explanation for Roy would be that as an EMT he had access to items like morphine.
I just assumed in Friday 9 he never spoke earlier because didnt know he could. After hopping a few bodies he was still learning the limits of the associated abilities
This was great. You really researched your movies 🍿
ive always answered it like this: they're all different tales told around a campfire
Yes! Someone actually got the Alice answer correct! For real, I had read the novelisation if Friday Part 2 as well. She would actually go down to where it all happened, back to the camp even. And yes he finally tracked her down living right in the town of Crystal Lake! I have tried explaining this so much. And the series did not feature any supernatural elements at all until Jason Lives. After that we see victims run, Jason walks and catches up, definitely some elements of teleportation, and upon becoming undead the Necricominon is featured, the magic dagger, and Jason having super human strength and becoming indistructable.
He does soak up an inhuman out of damage only to get back up and keep going. Plus I can't imagine even the strongest human being having the strength to crush a human skull let alone the skull of a fairly large guy and Jason somehow possesses this level of strength despite having done zero strength training and just being a .bit bigger than an average guy. Sounds supernatural to me
Deleted scene from Friday The 13th Part 3. Jason finds a box of steroids by the side of the road. Starts home Pilates.
Doubt I've ever laughed so hard and been simultaneously so damn fascinated by a single vid. NICE nutzo logic, Josh!!!
I have a question!
Why is He's Back by Alice Cooper such a fucking banger?
Omg yes!!!!!!! Was listening to it on Friday Night!!!
Because Alice Cooper is a brilliant musician who happens to love the Friday The 13th movie franchise.
You are more correct than you realize when you refer to Jason as a revenant. This whole thing was set up in part 6 with the occult manual and living with the dead books that Tommy used to research how to stop Jason. The reason Tommy decides to trap Jason in the lake is that revenants have only one method to stop them that varies with each and is ried to a tragedy ( usually a first death they suffered) as you pointed out revenants return for a single purpose in Jason's case vengeance due to his mother's death and also against young people as he was tormented by them... also all of Jason's abilities are covered by revenant description check the menace manual d20 modern rpg
I love these unanswered questions videos, there are questions I've wondered about myself and some that never occurred to me. Lots of fun to watch.
I STILL need to know what happened to Jason's body. When he drowned? Is it still in the bottom of the Lake? We saw Pamela's grave, where's his? Did they just leave him? Did Pamela go Crazy and make up the story cause he ALMOST drowned and started going off on the staff of the lake? Did she loose custody and make it up in her mind he was dead cause she didn't have him anymore and killed the staff cause of that?
It’s my head canon that Jason didn’t drown, he washed up on the other side of the lake where an old hermit who lives in the part 2 shack found him while he was fishing, and took him in. He taught Jason how to kill wildlife to survive in the woods. And because of his deformity, the hermit would make Jason wear the sack on his head (because why would Jason do that himself?). Eventually Jason would have kill the hermit, and as the campfire story in part 2 goes, he watched his mother get killed. From there he got his revenge on Alice and the rest is history..
The truck driver who gave Annie a ride in Part 1 told her that a boy drowned at the camp in 1957.
If he went into hiding in the woods after being presumed drowned, authorities may have just assumed his bottom drifted out to sea from the lake. Part 8 makes it clear that the lake is connected to a much larger body of water
You forgot to mention that Chris from Part 3 had a previous encounter with Jason some time prior. The details are vague, but we do know he attacked her and that event could be related to whatever happened to Duke's girlfriend.
I think Jason's father is Crazy Ralph... Crazy Ralph rescued him from the lake and raised him from that point on...Jason escaped from Crazy Ralph... That is why Crazy Ralph was warning everybody...he knew what Jason was capable of!!!!!!
Jason killed Crazy Ralph in Part 2. (Which the producers clearly regretted, because they had a Discount Crazy Ralph show up in Part 3.)
@@erickleefeld4883 wouldn't matter. The actor died between 2&3, they would have had to recast anyhow
Also, I like to think before coming back to Crystal Lake from New York, he first fought the Ninja Turtles and the Ghostbusters.
While I can’t speak for his height during filming, and I know some people shrink a bit with age, Kane Hodder is most definitely NOT 6’4” i’m 5’ 11” and when I met him in 2018, we were the same height
Yeah, wasn't that the issue with him getting recasted for the crossover? They thought he was "too short", which he wasn't.
I think hodder was always at 6''2
24:22 the doughnut comment; is probably the funniest thing from this movie, let alone I still throw that comment out in random social occasions because it’s so off putting it’s hilarious!
Arguably that’s probably the only redeeming grace from the entire film for me.
I love these videos! They’re a lot of fun. I did want to say that the character of Trent could be the same guy. I happen to live bear a house that’s called the McFarland place but the people who live there are named Jackson. That’s because the house is known as the McFarland place because 1) the McFarlands built it back in the 30s, and 2) the McFarland’s lived there for years, so if you say the McFarland place to anyone from where I grew up, they know exactly what you’re talking about. I can think of a few examples as well where locals know a place by the people who lived there a long time, even if that’s no longer the case. So hopefully, we CAN see Jason fighting autobots someday! Thanks again for the video! I really like all the stuff you do, but I think unanswered questions would be my personal favorite! Keep the great stuff coming!
Great video. I think you put more thought into the movies than most of the films writers!
Nice job. Happy Friday the 13th!
i like to think that Pamela resurrected him using the Necrominicon, he awakened when she died; he was damaged so much by Ginny that he hopped bodies into Paul (why he looks different in 3)
Wow. Would have been nice for part 2 to include the novelization explanation for Alice being found by Jason. I couldn't figure out why she wasn't back in Cali, where I assume she's from. Or how Jason found her. This would have been a good throwaway line that could have went along way. Of course, slashers have SlasherGPS that comes with the knife/machete/axe/chainsaw, so that always helps a tad, but sometimes leaves me with continuity blue balls. And since timelines seem to be your thing, I submit Jason grew in part 3, and got the hockey mask because The Road Warrior had been released internationally (I think before f13th pt. 3 filming) and F13th decided to borrow heavily from Lord Humungus. It does go against official statements of "we had the hockey mask for makeup tests) but it just seems too coincidental. imo
I would love to see Jason wear his mask from Bride of Chucky.
That’s a real good way to explain How Jason changes appearance between part 8 and “Hell”. I really never considered any of these ideas.
Love your videos man keep up the good work would love to see another Romero one if possible
Interesting video! I simply love Friday the 13th Part 5 (Always have) i don’t buy into Roy being influenced by Jason at all (The man simply snapped) It mirrors what happened in the original film He was in and around medicine he more then likely took a huge amounts of pain killers while he was doing the killings (That may in fact be the reason Roy killed the other EMT (maybe the guy caught him stealing drugs) plus he was already far gone and just murdered him too… Grief can do various things to peoples psyche he had a nervous break down and snapped and used the The previous massacres as a sort of blue print how to get revenge (When it comes to FT13 Part 5 i could probably write a novel on the film itself) It’s so much deeper and smarter then horror fans give it credit for
The Roy Burns case also totally validated efforts by local officials to tell the public that these killings around Crystal Lake are all deranged copycats of Pamela Voorhees, acting under the cover of a campfire legend.
Stephen King’s novel “Cujo” has a subplot about some kind of evil presence in the town of Castle Rock, including an earlier case of a brutal serial killer in the town (from King’s earlier book “The Dead Zone”). When the rabid St. Bernard kills a particular character, among the man’s last thoughts are that he’s looking into the dog’s eyes and seeing the killer, a man he’d once known as a friend, looking back at him. Was it the ghost of this killer, or maybe the town’s evil presence that brought about both events? (This whole continuity subplot was dropped from the Cujo movie.)
The Friday Part 5 novel’s idea, that Jason’s spiritual presence influenced Roy Burns, was quite possibly borrowed from King’s book.
I always appreciate how you try to make sense of the insensible Josh. Of course the easiest and most logical answer for a lot of these is (besides a few instances) there is basically no continuity between the films with different writers, directors, actors, etc. But it's a lot more fun to actually create a continuity, you'd almost wish those filmmakers in the 80s weren't just doing everything on the cheap to make the quick bucks, and actually had more coherence of the whole.
I'm sorry, but you are never going to be done with this series. There's always going to be more questions than answers. And I really hope you never stop answering them. Not only for satisfaction, but for the success of your Channel.
I like the Roy character a lot. If I had my way, the Roy events would happen after the first Friday the 13th movie. Then I would go with Friday the 13th Part 2 and, onwards. People using the folk tail for their own needs is an often missed Trope in horror for the past 40 years. People forget Scooby-Doo.
I’m taking the “little girl in a pink dress” comment as him saying Jason just does things, and he doesn’t know what he is doing yet finds what he does amusing.
I know that's for a completely different brand of RUclips channel, but I think it would be pretty fun to watch you stream something like Friday the 13th: The Game or Alien Isolation.
Yaaay, I got a question answered, awesome lol I kind of prefer your 2nd theory of 'He's Jason God Damn Voorhees, he's special' to the Revenant theory :) Cheers for the explanation Josh 👍
Last Friday the 13th I watched a fan film covering Jason's journey from Manhattan back to Crystal Lake. It's already established that he still kills between movies, actually. Well, maybe not between 2, 3, & 4, but otherwise, he totally does. The big problem with the timeline is the fact that the director for part seven said that it's ten years after part six, yet the director of part 8 decided to make the movie so extremely 80s that it hurt.
Excellent vid
Very calming appeal to this channel
In the remake, Jenna embodies what a final girl is in every way. She is even single despite people saying she's Trent's girlfriend. She's, pretty, sweet, caring, kind, and doesn't break any rules. Why did she die.
This is probably my 4th time watching these . It's like comfort food❤
Jason is a Frankenzombie. That is, he's a corpse resurrected through electricity ala Frankenstein's monster. Though, here, he's just one body and not a stitched together creation. The New Line Cinema films might put a wrench in that. Also, Tommy Jarvis, in part 6, hypothesized that Jason died in the drowning. The latter could be ignored since Tommy doesn't know for sure. There are different routes one can take to explain the discrepancies introduced by the New Line films (e.g., separate universes), but the real life answer is that continuity took a back seat in this franchise most of the time.
Here's a did you know, in paintball there is a surrender rule so all they had to do was point their guns and say surrender and it's an automatic win. Jason would have been eliminated he would have walked to the side and waited his next turn for respawn
Yes. For part 5. The Dreams and Hallucinations of Jason aren't just that. I say its Jason's Ghost! He is Haunting Tommy, which was to drive Tommy insane and back to his grave to free him in pt 6. In part 5. Jason used Roy's anger to "possess" him and give him the ability to Kill Like Jason. I also say that is what happened when the one guy killed Roy's son. Jason Zapped him too. I love Headcanon.
Crazy Ralph is Jason father? 🏒
Jason was called a revenant in his what if guest scenes in mortal kombat! Putting him in the same category as scorpion.
Did you know that the signature hockey mask was the one used unofficially official in the movie slapshot
As far as Jason speaking in Manhattan. Look no further than Rennie. Remember her flashbacks to being a girl and child Jason trying to drown her? Was she born about 1950 and just looks really young at the time of her NYC high school senior field trip? No. Like Tina in the New Blood, Rennie is a psychic. By going into Crystal Lake as a girl, she taps into the psychic energy there and sees a projection of Jason as a boy. This same hallucination haunts her aboard the Lazarus. The Child Jason we see at the end after the toxic waste was how Rennie saw Jason. Jason's speaking is what she hears via her psychic connection. She taps into the boy frightened of drowning. This is also why Jason was downed by the wave of waste. Rennie connected to Jason and he regressed in his head. He drowned a second time in that sewer, at least in his head.
q7 - What if Duke's girl friend was killed by Pamela. The two of them thought Camp Crystal Lake would be a good place for some canoodling. After swimming, she was wearing some silly pink dress. He went back to the car for some protection, and Pamela killed her while he was gone. He saw her, but wasn't able to give chase. The thing is, he only saw her in shadows. Later, after 2 -4 happened in one weekend, he decided it had been Jason that killed her and started his research. After that, as you said, there wasn't much downtime, so he never had the chance to get back when Jason was active.
Q8 - The first parts to rot on a body are going to be the soft tissue, plus, tongue is a delicacy. He never spoke in his own body, because his tongue rotted out. He never spoke in most of Goes To Hell because he's so used to not being able to - or maybe he just had nothing to say. He's not Freddy Krueger, after all.
It's pretty minor but this is the first question I can't logic out for myself. In part 2, Alice answers the phone shortly before opening the fridge. She thinks her mom is calling again but it's just a hang-up. The musical score starts the tension right there as though indicating that it's ominous or significant. The thing is, I don't think Jason can't dial a phone. Even if he could, there are no cell phones. Maybe I'm reading into nothing but it seems like an odd addition to the scene.
This has been debated for a long time. it probably wasn't Jason calling; he was outside or probably already in the house at the time of the call. It may have been him cutting the line, however.
I never realized how bad the canoe jump scare in Part 4 looked. The Part 1 canoe scene was perfect.
Have not watched this till the end, but in part 9 How does the towel stay on during a run through the woods and never slips or even hints at coming off AND when did she have time to put on her shoes?
I always thought Jason has possessed people like his Mom, Roy, and (attempting to possess) Tommy. Toni Morrison's Beloved novel has a similar situation where a baby that is murdered comes back from the dead the age she would have been if she had lived.
When you consider the supernatural forces at work, I believe Jason had been haunting the lake before he was fully resurrected. I'll refer to Rennie's flashback in part 8. Maybe Duke's girlfriend was attacked by child Jason? Also, I believe Jason exists physically and spiritually at the same time. Rennie wasn't high when she saw the young Jason while she was on the boat. It could be the same spirit that haunted Tommy, Roy and even Pamela herself
I the reboot Jason was shown to have hunted/trapped animals if I remember correctly. There was a scene or two showing hides or skewered animals or something. Been a while since I've seen it. So maybe he's just living off the land.
I've watched all 3 of the unanswered questions for Friday the 13th and i notice one thing wasn't brought up yet. Why is Jason Goes to Hell set in Connecticut and not New Jersey?
I wouldn't be surprised if there was more unanswered Evil Dead and scream questions since we're getting a new Evil Dead movie and Scream movie this year
Pamela's head was in the refrigerator strictly for preservation purposes. Alice finding it was just a happy accident.
I always figured Roy was supposed to be a Pamela redo. I assumed the chocolate kid was going to be the new "Jason" in the next few movies with the supernatural powers.
Maybe with Roy from part 5...it isn't so much the spirit of Jason himself. but something like you mentioned earlier in the video...there is something with Camp Ground and the land itself.
I have a theory about F13 pt9 (Jason Goes to Hell) -- in my headcanon, it's a genuine, actual crossover with "The Hidden." (The guys who wrote the movie said they had just seen The Hidden and loved it and it influenced them a lot.) I think that after pt8, Jason was occupied by an evil alien (same kind as the evil one in The Hidden) and the bounty hunter guy who inexplicably knows so much about Jason is host to a good alien (like Kyle McLachlan's character in The Hidden). Once I came up with this theory, it made me actually really enjoy Pt9, which I used to consider the worst. In fact, hey, this could be a new series for you: Fan Theories and Headcanon!
Why does part 3 start with Jason slipping the blade out of his shoulder, and crawling away to then getting his new drip. Does that confirm then that Jinny was only dreaming the part of him busting through the window and being the lone survivor?
Another theory on Jason's size change is he swapped bodies with Paul, a la "Jason Goes to Hell". That's why we didn't see Paul at the end of part 2. Although, the face is obviously different and doesn't explain why he looked the same in the flashback scene...
The whole idea of Jason finding Alice is utterly ridiculous but most of the things are in this franchise…
My kid had the theory that the reason Jason got bigger in Part 3 was due to swelling brought on by the machete he received to the shoulder in the previous movie. It doesn't explain the height change, but it's something. Jason also seems to be left handed in Part 2, but from Part 3 onward he appears to be right handed. My kid thinks that the shoulder injury was so bad that it forced Jason to switch to his non-dominant hand from then on. I doubt any of this was intended on the filmmakers part, as I don't think they put very much thought into anything in these movies, but it at least allows a way to explain the discrepancy in Jason's appearance as good as anything can.
The more Jason kills, the more he transcends
Something that hasn't been said (or I missed). In part 2, the Mrs. Voorhees shrine scene at the end, there is another skeleton laying in front of Terry's body. Is that Alice's missing body?
Your biggest question should have been...Why is the camp constantly reopened after alot of people are constantly getting killed?
Optimus Prime vs. Jason
Don't we wish?!
A few ideas. 1. With Roy, instead of being possessed by Jason, he could have been possessed by Pam. Both of them went through the same thing and with Pam being a spirit, it could help Roy become stronger then he was. 2. Jason could have died as a boy, in the lake from drowning and brought back by Pam or maybe she hid him away to protect him and went after camp counselors that would go off and have sex, instead of watching the kids. 3. Also the line about "Little Girls and Sticking A Hotdog into A Bun", could be about Jason keeping the girls he killed, in order to have sex with them. Jason is older then the teens, so they are "little girls" and Pam could have tried to make him feel bad for having thoughts of sex, so he was mocking the abuse he suffered about that with the line, "Sticking a Hotdog into A Bun"..
Roy is an EMT. He could have jacked himself up with a bunch of drugs from his own supply. Not like the other EMT could object. We saw that Roy killed him too.
Reggie and Creighton Duke yeah, that makes sense... Maybe.
Nice Hitchhiker's Guide T-shirt.
Justice for Dudley
Trent is easily the best F13 character hands down
People asking what does Jason do in his free time 😂😂😂😂